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metirish
Jan 22 2012 11:02 AM

I need help, I need to get Lorcan a baseball glove for Tee Ball. He is right handed so I need a glove for his left hand, but I am confused with the wording here in this example

left Handed Throw or Right Handed Throw?

Glove

which glove do I get?

also, I want to get a glove for myself so I can practice with him,what should I get?

themetfairy
Jan 22 2012 11:14 AM
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FWIW, D-Dad has never heard it described this way. But he and MK both think that you'd need the right-handed throw glove for him.

OE - This is the manufacturer's product support webpage. They're not open today, but you could call or write tomorrow to double check before placing your order.

On Further Edit - Here's what Wikipedia says -


A glove is typically worn on the non-dominant hand, leaving the dominant hand for throwing the ball; for example, a right-handed player would wear a glove on the left hand. By convention, the type of glove that fits on the left hand is called a "right-handed" or "RH" glove, although some websites and catalogs refer to them as "Right-Hand Throw", which means a glove which is worn on the left hand.

Edgy MD
Jan 22 2012 11:47 AM
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I can't tell you what to buy. But the key to it all is the manly eroticism of breaking in a glove. It's one of the great rites of passage between father and son. The key is to use it to impress on him that all mystic knowledge will come from you --- in ritual, in example, or in furious tirades:

There are many related techniques, and the internet may tell you many. The Edgy DC family technique went something like:

[list=1][*]Slather the inside face of the glove in [url]neatsfoot oil --- common household product 125 years ago, but now in existence merely for this purpose.

[/*:m]
[*]Apply the same to the outside face of the glove, but less liberally.

[/*:m]
[*]Leave in the sun, perhaps in a window, overnight.

[/*:m]
[*]The next day, bury a baseball in the lower webbing of the glove --- the pocket, just above where it it hits the palm. Grind it in deep. Squeeze the glove around it as you do. It's almost painful how hard it is to close at this point. But it's good pain.

[/*:m]
[*]Place a second and third baseball in the upper webbing and in the palm or heel of the glove. A children's glove --- especially one for child as young as Lorcan --- won't be able to fit these, but if you might want to add smaller balls in here. A tennis ball, a handball, or a spaldeen. Even a superball. Just to be complete with the ritual.

[/*:m]
[*]Close your glove tightly like a burrito around these three balls.

[/*:m]
[*]Wrap the glove shut in this position, closing the corner on the pinky side over the corner on the thumb side, Oil the outside again a little.

[/*:m]
[*]Using twine or string or a belt --- something organic and manly --- tie it up securely in this wrapped condition. It should have almost a football shape at this point.

[/*:m]
[*]Ritualize this to full extent. Tell the kid some booshit about how John J. McGraw himself introduced this technique to all of American baseball. And he learned it from his grandfather in Ireland.

[/*:m]
[*]Leave it again to dry in the sun during the day.

[/*:m]
[*]During the night, tell the boy to place the glove under his pillow. If you're doing one for yourself, do the same. This has about 4% practical value and 96% mystical value, but it's good stuff. If the glove is still oily wet (and it likely is), you'll want to place it in a plastic bag or something or your wife might kill you.

[/*:m]
[*]The next day open it up and play some catch, it'll still be awkward, but your hand will close more. Give it 50 throws, and the glove should start getting the memory of your hand.

[/*:m]
[*]Do these 50-catch sessions two or three times a week for three weeks, and encourage your son to abuse his and your gloves in between sessions. Wear them around, throw them like footballs. Toss 'em in the toy chest. More use --- and even abuse --- leads to more softening.[/*:m][/list:o]

Otherewise, visit the website of whatever brand you get. Rawlings and Spalding are the most old-school American brands. Mizuno makes a lot of tricked out models for kids. There's no shame in that, since he'll be outgrowing this in a few years, but in my house, plainer was manlier.

Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2012 01:03 PM
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Gloves come much more ready-to-use now as compared to back in the day.
IOW, less break-in required.









Sorry to ruin any rite-of-passage rituals

Ceetar
Jan 22 2012 01:04 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Gloves come much more ready-to-use now as compared to back in the day.
IOW, less break-in required.









Sorry to ruin any rite-of-passage rituals



Still need a good couple of hours of catch to get them to close good. molded to your hand and what not.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 22 2012 03:33 PM
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Lunchpail's glove (he's a lefty) is rubberbanded and stuffed with 2 baseballs now.

Am looking for any advice as to a Little League worth signing up for? The local ones look pretty sketchy so would consider prospect park and/or central park. The Central Park Babe Ruth looks cool but signup is $349!!! wtf

metirish
Jan 22 2012 04:11 PM
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Paying for the views?, geeze that's expensive. Paid $175 for Pelham Bay LL which I thought was reasonable , guys there seemed nice, we'll see.

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 22 2012 05:43 PM
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Didn't you have to stick it under the mattress too?

Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2012 06:21 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Didn't you have to stick it under the mattress too?


Are we still talking about gloves?

Edgy MD
Jan 22 2012 06:27 PM
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We went under the pillow in my house. It may explain why my back is fine but my neck ain't so good.

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 22 2012 06:55 PM
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I apparently aligned the ball in the webbing incorrectly and ended up with my glove broken in the wrong place which led to much mockery at recess.

Fman99
Jan 22 2012 08:05 PM
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Little league for Fboy just $50 upstate, or $25 if you sell a box of candy bars which we did last year.

This will be season 3 for him, hopefully they move farther from tee ball and closer to baseball rules now that he'll be 7.

metirish
Jan 22 2012 08:38 PM
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Yeah i got a shit load of tickets to sell and I keep the money, talking like six books of 25 tickets...

metsmarathon
Jan 22 2012 08:42 PM
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ohman i can't wait for these days.

i never had a well-broken-in baseball glove. that's probably why i suck at the sport. but i'm spectacularly murphy-esque in softball. so i should probably learn how to [crossout:2x3y12tt]fuck up[/crossout:2x3y12tt] break in a glove so i can teach it to minimm.

Rockin' Doc
Jan 22 2012 09:18 PM
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I used the same glove from tee ball (as a 6 year old) until my playing days eventually came to an end when I left college for graduate school. Looking back, it is hard to imagine using the same glove for 15 years of baseball. Obviously, it was too big for me as a 6 year old and by the time I was playing in college, I had the smallest glove on the team. I absolutely loved that glove and babied it throughout the years. I finally got a new glove when I got to grad school, because mine was too small to use for intramural softball.

I truly hope that all of your sons get as much enjoyment from their baseball gloves and the wonderful game of baseball as I did growing up. Enjoy the exhilarating, emotional roller coaster that comes from watching your children play and compete in sports. Sadly, it will be over far too soon.

HahnSolo
Jan 23 2012 07:13 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Lunchpail's glove (he's a lefty) is rubberbanded and stuffed with 2 baseballs now.

Am looking for any advice as to a Little League worth signing up for? The local ones look pretty sketchy so would consider prospect park and/or central park. The Central Park Babe Ruth looks cool but signup is $349!!! wtf


I think you can only play in your district's Little League (unless you get some special dispensation...I know a couple kids from West Point play in our Cornwall NY Little League). Going out of district is generally a no-no, for fear that leagues will recruit and stock their all-star teams for a better shot at Williamsport (yea, seriously). There may be other non-Little League organizations you can look into (Cal Ripken baseball is one, but I don't know how prevalent they are in NY).

If this is Lunchpail's first year, I'd suggest trying out the local league. Probably a good chance he'll have kids he knows in the league. In fact, at his age, the leagues will try to match friends up if you request it.

HahnSolo
Jan 23 2012 07:16 AM
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metirish wrote:
Paying for the views?, geeze that's expensive. Paid $175 for Pelham Bay LL which I thought was reasonable , guys there seemed nice, we'll see.


Is Pelham Bay still playing in the field across from Lehman HS, under the elevated #6? One drunken night long ago I felt some boobies in one of those dugouts.

metirish
Jan 23 2012 07:41 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
metirish wrote:
Paying for the views?, geeze that's expensive. Paid $175 for Pelham Bay LL which I thought was reasonable , guys there seemed nice, we'll see.


Is Pelham Bay still playing in the field across from Lehman HS, under the elevated #6? One drunken night long ago I felt some boobies in one of those dugouts.



LOL......yes , that's where the park is, clinics are held in Lehman HS.

small world..........small boobs????


thanks for all the info, so , I should buy right handed throw mitts right?

metsmarathon
Jan 23 2012 08:30 AM
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teach him to bat and throw lefty instead. it'll greatly increase his likelihood of making a major league team one day, if only as a middle reliever or a pinch hitter. but it'll totally be worth it, maybe.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 23 2012 08:43 AM
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Nah, let the kid have fun.

MFS62
Jan 23 2012 08:44 AM
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Thank you , Edgy.
That actually brought a tear of rememberance to my eye.
Truly, a rite of passage.
Later

Ceetar
Jan 23 2012 08:51 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
teach him to bat and throw lefty instead. it'll greatly increase his likelihood of making a major league team one day, if only as a middle reliever or a pinch hitter. but it'll totally be worth it, maybe.


My father tried to make me swing righty for a while to develop as a switch-hitter. Never took hold, of course he never made me bat righty in a game either. Throwing is a little trickier though, unless you're a lefty and can switch gloves with him for practice.

metsmarathon
Jan 23 2012 09:19 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Nah, let the kid have fun.


there's no fun in baseball.

at least, that's what i'm afraid of heading into the metly 2012.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 23 2012 09:40 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Lunchpail's glove (he's a lefty) is rubberbanded and stuffed with 2 baseballs now.

Am looking for any advice as to a Little League worth signing up for? The local ones look pretty sketchy so would consider prospect park and/or central park. The Central Park Babe Ruth looks cool but signup is $349!!! wtf


I think you can only play in your district's Little League (unless you get some special dispensation...I know a couple kids from West Point play in our Cornwall NY Little League). Going out of district is generally a no-no, for fear that leagues will recruit and stock their all-star teams for a better shot at Williamsport (yea, seriously). There may be other non-Little League organizations you can look into (Cal Ripken baseball is one, but I don't know how prevalent they are in NY).

If this is Lunchpail's first year, I'd suggest trying out the local league. Probably a good chance he'll have kids he knows in the league. In fact, at his age, the leagues will try to match friends up if you request it.


Thanks for that. Seems like the Central Park League is Babe Ruth and not Little League (if there's a difference). The big $$ price includes a whole uni with socks and stuff and also, tixx to a baseball game outing. But yeah, big time $$ for tee ball. Prolly not worth it.

My town apparently has a 60-year-old LL org with its own fields but hasn't bothered to get a website up yet. There's also one that looks mostly Hispanic that we could get into as well looks like.

metirish
Jan 23 2012 09:51 AM
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yeah, I needed to bring Lorcan's birth cert and proof that we live in Pelham Bay.

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2012 10:32 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Thanks for that. Seems like the Central Park League is Babe Ruth and not Little League (if there's a difference).


Babe Ruth Leagues are - or at least used to be - age 13 and up and use the full-sized (90 ft bases) fields.
IOW - not interchangeable w/LL.


The big $$ price includes a whole uni with socks and stuff and also, tixx to a baseball game outing. But yeah, big time $$ for tee ball. Prolly not worth it.


A lot of these leagues tend to overdo it with uniforms and what-not. The younger kids in particular would be fine with just t-shirts and their parents would certainly be happier with that.
MLB licensing fees add up too. Calling the teams Mets, Yanx & Cubs costs more than it would to have them be Bobcats, Beavers, & Hawks. And, again, you think the kids are going to care?

Fman99
Jan 23 2012 10:40 AM
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As a kid our Little League had teams named after MLB teams but no official logos or colors. The uniforms all had the same league logo on them and you just had color schemes -- the Indians wore maroon, the Cubs orange, the Yankees yellow.

Fboy's league has officially licensed apparel. Which is way worse as he's wearing an honest to goodness MFY hat out there. I am choking on my own bile just typing that.

Rockin' Doc
Jan 23 2012 07:47 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Babe Ruth Leagues are - or at least used to be - age 13 and up and use the full-sized (90 ft bases) fields.
IOW - not interchangeable w/LL.


I agree with Knot. Generally Babe Ruth Leagues are for 13-15 years olds. That's why the cost is so much more, as the players generally have full uniforms.


Fman99 wrote:
Fboy's league has officially licensed apparel. Which is way worse as he's wearing an honest to goodness MFY hat out there. I am choking on my own bile just typing that.


I'm turning you in to social services. Making your child wear a MFY hat is a clear cut case of child abuse.

Centerfield
Jan 24 2012 09:57 AM
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This thread reminded me I had to sign up Ryan for Little League. We are now registered for the 6 year old division, which hits off a tee. Games start in April.

I can't tell you how excited I am about the thought of watching my boy play on a baseball team. I shudder to think of how many pictures I'll be taking. He's had a glove since last year, and we had fun breaking it in.

I've also volunteered to be a coach/assistant coach. Don't know if they'll need me but it should be fun if it happens. I'm planning on making several tee changes every game to optimize the matchups.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 24 2012 10:05 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
I've also volunteered to be a coach/assistant coach. Don't know if they'll need me but it should be fun if it happens.


It's a LOT of fun. I highly recommend it.

I was an assistant coach the first year my daughter played t-ball, and the team's manager had no idea what he was doing (his wife made him sign up) and he gladly let me take charge. I then served as manager in each of the next three seasons, through 2011. I got burned out last year (frustrating set of parents) and now I'm stepping back to assistant coach for 2012.

Despite the aggravating final season, it was a great experience and I'm very glad I did it.

seawolf17
Jan 24 2012 11:04 AM
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Signups here on Saturday; going to volunteer for wherever they'll have me. Would love to coach, but I don't know about the time commitment.

metirish
Jan 24 2012 03:29 PM
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Super excited , ordered the mitts last night on Amazon and they came today!

As I have never actually owned one I am wondering how snug the fit should be, I got an adult one for me obviously , 11.5 inches....on first impression I thought it was tight, loosened it a bit, feels good and snug , now, my question is, how far into the glove should my hand go , in the pic below my hand as you can see doesn't go all the way in but I feel like I have control of the glove and can squeeze the ball and such.



lorcan's fits nice I think, he's really thrilled.



thanks for helping the rookie......

themetfairy
Jan 24 2012 04:51 PM
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Very nice :)

Edgy MD
Jan 24 2012 04:58 PM
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Yeah, seems maybe a little small. Anybody else?

metirish
Jan 24 2012 05:24 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Yeah, seems maybe a little small. Anybody else?



that was certainly my first thought , seems to have loosened up a bit , still , should my hand be all the way in?, i don't hink so, plus it's in infielder's glove it that makes a difference.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 24 2012 06:10 PM
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Try and dig in a little more if possible. You might want to consider bigger model if you're playing outfield or using a larger softball. Or leave it as it is and bake muffins.

metirish
Jan 24 2012 06:21 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Try and dig in a little more if possible. You might want to consider bigger model if you're playing outfield or using a larger softball. Or leave it as it is and bake muffins.


strictly an infielder am I , ha, it's only to play catch with Lorcan anyway so it's cool....I have a ball in the pocket now with farmers twine holding her closed like Edgy suggested. Where do I buy that oil?

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 25 2012 07:17 AM
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metirish wrote:
Where do I buy that oil?


Christopher Street.

Edgy MD
Jan 25 2012 07:30 AM
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Your local hardware store should direct you. A good sporting goods store maybe. I've also seen it at Walmart --- not that I ever go in there.

Centerfield
Jan 25 2012 07:51 AM
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metirish wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Yeah, seems maybe a little small. Anybody else?



that was certainly my first thought , seems to have loosened up a bit , still , should my hand be all the way in?, i don't hink so, plus it's in infielder's glove it that makes a difference.


Too small.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 25 2012 08:01 AM
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Actually the Central Park League I was talking about is Cal Ripken League -- which I guess is the junior division of Babe Ruth according to the website.

CF, which Little League is your guy signed up for?

Centerfield
Jan 25 2012 08:24 AM
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West Side Little League.

Website is here: http://westsidebaseball.org/

They play their games in Riverside Park.

A couple of his friends did the Cal Ripken league in Central Park last year. They liked it a lot. I think it's one hour of instruction followed by a one hour game. I think it's a pretty good alternative if you're not crazy about the Little League in your neighborhood.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 25 2012 09:52 AM
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Thanks. I found some info on our league from a neighbor, wrote them but haven't heard back yet. We will see.

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 25 2012 10:00 AM
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Our local youth baseball league is called the Regan Youth League which always make me think of the hardcore punk band.

metirish
Feb 06 2012 01:12 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 06 2012 01:28 PM

Lorcan had his first workout with the LL last Thursday night indoors at Lehman HS , he had great fun. Kids were broken down into groups of 5/6 and did catching drills, I swear Lorcan looks like a catcher the way he went naturally down to block and cradle the ball.

Turns out there are a few kids from his class there too so that was cool.


It was a bit of a shock when we entered Lehman HS and needed to go through a metal detector manned by cops.....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 06 2012 01:26 PM
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Artie's more thrower than catcher. That he's going down to get it without being afraid of getting hit is REALLY impressive at his age, man. Cheers.

How did the glove-breaking-in process work out? If you still need the liniments and sech, there are sporting goods stores on Castle Hill (nr. Westchester) with a nice array of oils, plus one (if memory serves) near Westchester Square. [If all else fails, they usually have the Franklin foam or glove oil at Modell's; I just prefer to support-- and get better service from-- the little guy.]

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 21 2012 08:43 AM
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I found out last night that Lunchpail's team will wear royal blue unis and be managed by me.

HahnSolo
Mar 23 2012 10:33 AM
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Eagerly awaiting the launch of "lunchpail's team by the numbers "web site.

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2012 10:40 AM
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That.

would.

be.

AWESOME!

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2012 11:09 AM
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A couple of things about coaching the pee-wees.

1. Be fanatical about catching with two hands.

2. That said, there's one or two kids who take to that message really well, but overdo it and stick their throwing hands inside their gloves before the ball arrives. Watch out for these poor, poor children.

3. The kid who is willing to be a catcher is the kid who is willing to set him or herself apart. This is a wonderful child with a heart as a big as the sky. Honor that child, if only in your thoughts. Teach him or her all your wisdom --- about baseball yes, but also about darkness and light and pinball machines and fire and girls and all that. He or she may be the only kid on the team who can absorb it.

4. (In the higher levels, catchers may just be bullies who see an opportunity to dish out punishment while remaining protected themselves.)

5. Where to throw the ball is a mystery for all children. They stay up late at night thinking about it. Their time in the field is consumed by it. Crouched in their positions repeating the question "Where do I throw the ball if, perchance, it is hit to me?" they will absolutely be lost in this thought when the ball actually is hit to them. So keep it simple. Infielders throw to first. Outfielders throw to second. Let the secondbaseman cover the bag and the shortstop get the cutoff on every outfield play the first half of the season.

If --- and only if --- this lesson gets generally absorbed by mid-season, you can introduce the notions of (a) looking for the lead runner and/or (b) letting the secondbaseman take the cutoff and the shortstop cover on hits to right.

Congratulations if you get there.

6. Throwing will be a festival of disaster. Point your hip at the guy you're throwing at, then point your landiing foot at the same. But this is precious knowledge and must be meted out carefully to the kids who can do something with it. Some will almost all season throw with their hips wide open. Others will hear that knowledge and be so focused on the mechanical information you gave them that they will have no clue how to release the ball. One or two unfortunates will push off of the wrong foot completely.

The story is this: you'll probably start with maybe three kids who can more or less throw in a manner resembling correctitude. If you get that number up to eight by the end of the year, good for you. You are going to see some gorgeously arcing parabulas thrown this season that will bring you to tears. Encourage them under all conditions. And have the "pitcher" back up everywhere, particularly third.

7. Teaching hitting is complicated, even off the tee. It's an essay in itself. For now, just drill the old "keep your eye on the ball" thing.

Nonetheless, hitting is probably a bottom priority. Don't let 'em hit a ball until practice three. They can swing some bats at the end of practice two. But hitting is the carrot that gets you through the more mundane parts of the game. So hold it until practice three, and once you've incorporated it into practice generally, make it the last drill.

8. Anybody who criticizes his teammates is just an awful child. Remind them early that the only perfect person on the field is you and if you hear criticism, you --- well you're still just thinking of a punishment vile enough for that child. "And I'm not kidding," you say, steeling your grin and turning toward the one unfortunate overcompetitive tousle-haired moptop, "Am I, Ivan?"

9. My father's rule: Get at least one girl on your team. They are the only ones who will help clean up the equipment after practice.

10. Goofy cheers. You can go 0-10, but a few goofy cheers, stupid team names, absurdisms, and other team culture stuff to bond over makes for a memorable time.
________________

My uncle's bonus eleventh rule: Is there a draft? Be very careful about drafting based on the cutiepienss of the kids' mothers. Dangerous territory.

themetfairy
Mar 23 2012 11:22 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
The kid who is willing to be a catcher is the kid who is willing to set him or herself apart. This is a wonderful child with a heart as a big as the sky. Honor that child, if only in your thoughts. Teach him or her all your wisdom --- about baseball yes, but also about darkness and light and pinball machines and fire and girls and all that. He or she may be the only kid on the team who can absorb it.




John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 23 2012 11:31 AM
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Thanks for that.

These are 5 and 6 year olds. We will not even have practices, just games as far as I know.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 23 2012 11:34 AM
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3. The kid who is willing to be a catcher is the kid who is willing to set him or herself apart. This is a wonderful child with a heart as a big as the sky. Honor that child, if only in your thoughts. Teach him or her all your wisdom --- about baseball yes, but also about darkness and light and pinball machines and fire and girls and all that. He or she may be the only kid on the team who can absorb it.


[Nods solemnly, fondling beat-up, undersized catcher's mitt]

4. (In the higher levels, catchers may just be bullies who see an opportunity to dish out punishment while remaining protected themselves.)


[Lowers eyes, nods shamefaced-ly, fondling beat-up, undersized catcher's mitt]

metirish
Mar 23 2012 11:46 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Thanks for that.

These are 5 and 6 year olds. We will not even have practices, just games as far as I know.



Had two practice sessions weeks apart, supposed to be hearing form Lorcan's coach in the next few days.....


all the best Lunchpail...

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2012 11:51 AM
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Five and six is a challenge. I come from the world where you start 'em at seven, and maybe squeeze the six-year-old batboy into a game or two at the end of the year.

At that age, you have to cut the grass pretty low just to allow batted balls to get a good roll.

HahnSolo
Apr 06 2012 09:47 AM
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LIttle Solo's 7-8 year old team is the Blue Jays again this year. One more year of coach-pitch, and LS is eager to move up. He's a good head taller than a lot of the kids on his team and he's ready for minors.
Second practice last night and boy are we a work in progress.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 06 2012 09:49 AM
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I'm having terror dreams over this coaching gig. Lunchpail has a great attitude but can barely open and close his own glove. Who knows what the other kids can do.

HahnSolo
Apr 06 2012 09:53 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I'm having terror dreams over this coaching gig. Lunchpail has a great attitude but can barely open and close his own glove. Who knows what the other kids can do.


I coached my little guy at that age. Not to worry too much. Very few kids can catch a ball at that age, but at the same time, very few actually hit it hard enough to do any damage to the nose-pickers and dirt-diggers in the infield.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 06 2012 11:04 AM
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Johnny, are you managing the team or assistant coaching?

I did four years of managing my daughter's softball team, and it was a lot of fun. At least, the first three years were. The fourth year, not so much. Now we're in year five, and I've sidelined myself. I'm just a lipstick-wearing hockey mom. Or something like that.

But it's a great thing... I highly recommend it. Even though I eventually burned out, it was a terrific experience.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 06 2012 11:24 AM
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I am managing. I've only so far talked to the parents of my team by phone but one Mom was all like, "oh, we had a first-year coach last year and it was awful can I tell you..." It hasn't helped that the league is kinda weird, as mentioned previously. No webpage, promotion, info on practice field availability, etc etc. Season starts 2 weeks from tomorrow!

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 06 2012 11:31 AM
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Good luck! Have fun with it.

I think it might be easier dealing with the parents when it's a girls' team. It seems that girls sports, at least at the youngest ages, are a lot less competitive and more social. I'm sure it gets more serious later on as the casual players drift away and the hard-core ones remain.

HahnSolo
Apr 06 2012 11:57 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I am managing. I've only so far talked to the parents of my team by phone but one Mom was all like, "oh, we had a first-year coach last year and it was awful can I tell you..." It hasn't helped that the league is kinda weird, as mentioned previously. No webpage, promotion, info on practice field availability, etc etc. Season starts 2 weeks from tomorrow!


Usually there is a "commissioner" for each level. You might want to talk to him about practice fields, etc. If you don't know the commissioner, go to the person who told you that you were going to be manager, and find out who to speak to. From doing this four years, I know you have to be proactive in finding places to practice. And I'm in a league with a lot of fields to choose from.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 15 2012 06:55 AM
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We had our first practice yesterday and I hafta say the kids did pretty well and I had a great time.

It was only a few minutes in before the kid who wears glasses took one off the face, but he was a good sport and these safety balls are just that. They all struggled catching but I think made a little progress. A few of the kids are awesome. Afterward at a coaches meeting for my level they said they didn't expect kids to catch and from what I could tell wouldn't endeavor to teach them, so I'm secretly determined now to be the Team That Knows How To Catch by the end of the year.

metirish
Apr 16 2012 06:41 AM
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I think I mentioned before that the league we are in seemed disorganized, well it is....the Tee ball started last Tuesday while we were away, looking at the sked I figured we would only miss two games anyway....never hear from a coach though so I called yesterday after we got back and as I had thought they had Lorcan on a girls team(figured as much from an email I got two weeks ago from a coach)...anyway they fixed that and he has his first game tomorrow night.

Centerfield
Apr 16 2012 08:22 AM
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Ryan's opening day was yesterday in Riverside Park. I gotta tell you, it's incredibly fun. I will post pictures later this week, but I was thinking you suffer through late night feedings and diapers so you can get days like this.

He plays for the Red Sox. Like Johnny said, not a lot of guys on this team can catch, but they all play hard and seem really excited to be there.

It's a tee ball league, and our coaches are great about rotating the kids through the different positions. You keep track of runs and outs, but everyone bats each inning. Once the lineup turns over, the other team bats and so on.

The kids are awesome. With the exception of one or two kids, no one can catch the ball. Each one has to be reminded to run after they hit, one kid ran directly to second base while still holding the bat, and our first baseman kept forgetting to cover first, but otherwise, they look like a real solid team.

metirish
Apr 17 2012 06:41 AM
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Ha!

@CJNitkowski If I see you today could you please brag about how awesome your kid is doing in school or at sports. I never get enough of that. #FB

Edgy MD
Apr 17 2012 06:58 AM
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Enjoy the ride Jonny. While there will be occasional thrilling and unexpected moments of transcendent performance, the stuff you will take away will be the absolute fuckups:

[list:11avl5ty][*:11avl5ty] the outfielder who lets an extra-base-hit roll past him because he's experimenting with making shapes with his shadow;[/*:m:11avl5ty]
[*:11avl5ty]the third-baseman who makes absolutely clean picks but keeps thinking that "turn two" means "throw it into left field."[/*:m:11avl5ty]
[*:11avl5ty]the kid who has such an encouraging mother that he's learned to re-assure himself through his failures, almost as a tick, chronically repeating "that was a good try!" after every hack at the tee;[/*:m:11avl5ty]
[*:11avl5ty]the insecure fat kid when he first learns that he's developed a little muscle hauling his girth around, when he gives the ball a shocking whollop that makes the other kids who were teasing him just moments before drop their jaws, and he just stands there with his jaw dropped too --- RUN, DEREK!![/*:m:11avl5ty]
[*:11avl5ty]the little son of justice who insists that, because he was on second when the last inning ended, he should be back on second when the next inning starts --- he earned his way there and it's not his fault the other kids made out;[/*:m:11avl5ty]
[*:11avl5ty]when skinny-kid-with-Coke-bottle glasses is the most pathetic figure in the league from 6-9, and then at 10, some coach gets an epiphany, puts him on the mound, and discovers he has a repeatable sidearm motion with a natural drop and is absolutely unhittable.[/*:m:11avl5ty][/list:u:11avl5ty]

There's redemption for every one of those kids in the team concept. It's all about Timmy Loopis. It's gonna break your heart the first time the kids ahead of the curve start bitching about the ones behind it, but if you reinforce the idea that nobody's perfect except you --- and whichever mother makes the drinks --- it's just as heartening when the kids start policing each other about that ripping-their-teammates shit.

There's this strange thing I came upon where my best players were almost invariably sons of divorced parents --- sad kids but intensely focused, shuttling between two disappointing homes but making a home that's all their own on the baseball field. I met a guy who coached youth basketball that had the same experience.

metirish
Apr 17 2012 07:02 AM
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Lorcan has his first game this evening.....as it happens the league didn't start until Saturday due to "unforeseen circumstances" , can't wait.His mantra when asked what team he follows is "the Mets cos the Mets never lose".

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2012 07:04 AM
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Another tip: One time when my daughter was playing soccer, the coach was working something out on his clipboard before the game, and a girl came up to him and said, "Coach, I'm here!" and he just grunted. She wasn't one of his best players, and he clearly didn't give a damn that she had arrived.

I always made sure to give each kid a friendly greeting. "Hey! Megan's here!" Let them know that somebody cares that they showed up. I'm amazed that not everybody does this. Why volunteer to coach kids if you don't like or care about kids?

Edgy MD
Apr 17 2012 07:07 AM
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Because you're trying to win some games with your savage clipboard work, and therefore redeem your own sorry shit. Duh.

seawolf17
Apr 17 2012 09:21 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
[*]when skinny-kid-with-Coke-bottle glasses is the most pathetic figure in the league from 6-9, and then at 10, some coach gets an epiphany, puts him on the mound, and discovers he has a repeatable sidearm motion with a natural drop and is absolutely unhittable.

I so desperately wanted to do that when I was a kid -- I even showed up early to a practice one day so I could be pitching, sidearm, off the mound when the coach showed up to show him that I could bring it -- but it never took.

MiniWolf started on Saturday; I'm managing as well, and thankfully have an assistant and two parent volunteers who are awesome. We have a few... um... strong personalities on the team, but this is a really fun bunch of kids, and I think we're going to make it work, because the overall dynamic is just right. Really looking forward to game 2 tonight.

Our league uses minor league names for teams; we're the Mudhens. I ordered shirts for my assistant coach and I to match the kids; mistakenly thought I'd given #17 to one of my kids, so I took #22 instead; then realized I had intentionally NOT handed out #17 so I could assign it to myself. Oops.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 17 2012 10:06 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
Each one has to be reminded to run after they hit, one kid ran directly to second base while still holding the bat, and our first baseman kept forgetting to cover first, but otherwise, they look like a real solid team.


Really? 'Cause they sound like a bunch of morons to me.

HahnSolo
Apr 17 2012 10:11 AM
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metirish wrote:
Lorcan has his first game this evening.....as it happens the league didn't start until Saturday due to "unforeseen circumstances" , can't wait.His mantra when asked what team he follows is "the Mets cos the Mets never lose".


One of my other FB friends has a t-baller in Pelham Bay LL. Dont know their team name, but from the pictures he posted, they wear green tees and caps.

Edgy MD
Apr 17 2012 10:25 AM
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Robert K., second from the right, front row, was that child --- banjoest-hitting kid in the league. My dad put him on the mound and he was lights out, striking out 12-13 batters per game in our six-inning games.



Problem was that even in his success, he was still pretty fragile on the inside, and finding this path to success, he built his whole self image on it. When we moved up to the big fields at 13, he couldn't find the plate with his sidearm shit. He was knocked out early in his first game at that level, left the field crying, and refused to ever take the mound again. He still loved baseball a lot and stuck with it, sticking around the rec leagues until junior year of high school, remaking himself as a real ballhawk of a centerfielder, but I couldn't coax him to ever throw another pitch, nor to try out for the school team.

HahnSolo
Apr 17 2012 10:27 AM
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Little Solo's Blue Jays begin their Instructional season tonight with a game against the Red Sox.

"You know what that means? Bad news for the Red Sox!"

HahnSolo
Apr 17 2012 10:29 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Robert K., second from the right, front row, was that child --- banjoest-hitting kid in the league. My dad put him on the mound and he was lights out, striking out 12-13 batters per game in our six-inning games.



The bigger question for your team is how you got Grant Goodeve to coach at the height of his Eight is Enough fame.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 17 2012 10:35 AM
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I think that's Bruce Jenner, not Grant Goodeve.

metirish
Apr 17 2012 10:36 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
metirish wrote:
Lorcan has his first game this evening.....as it happens the league didn't start until Saturday due to "unforeseen circumstances" , can't wait.His mantra when asked what team he follows is "the Mets cos the Mets never lose".


One of my other FB friends has a t-baller in Pelham Bay LL. Dont know their team name, but from the pictures he posted, they wear green tees and caps.



I'll find out later....Lorcan is on Buzz..... going by last years pix they wear yellow....


that's a great pic Edgy

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2012 10:48 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
He was knocked out early in his first game at that level, left the field crying, and refused to ever take the mound again.


Didn't something similar happen with Victor Zambrano?

Lefty Specialist
Apr 17 2012 11:58 AM
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Ah, Little League. I was a coach for four years in suburbia, for second through fifth graders. It had its moments (like seeing your kid hit a bases clearing triple to win the game) but it also had its heartaches (giving up 16 runs in the top of the first inning and then going down 1-2-3 in the bottom).

By fourth grade the athletes are already becoming obvious, and that's when the teasing starts to get bad if a kid is, shall we say, less than gifted. And while the kids can be hard to deal with at times, the parents were worse. "Don't pitch Billy against this team, it'll ruin his confidence"- stuff like that.

And nothing in any smoke-filled back room can compare with little league coaches drafting teams. There were guys who came to this meeting with stat sheets for fourth graders. I picked kids I knew were friends of my son, and these guys were lining up their pitching staffs.

Got a call two days before the season started that two of my players had been TRADED to another team, managed by a friend of the president of the town little league. I was flabbergasted; I didn't even know little leaguers COULD be traded. Of course, the two that left were good players and the two I got back were dandelion-pickers.

I don't regret it; it was quite the experience. My son stuck it out until 8th grade as a good-fielding, lightly-hitting second baseman. And I still have the baseball on my desk signed by my entire fifth-grade team- it's better than any Willie Mays autograph, as far as I'm concerned.

metirish
Apr 20 2012 06:58 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:

One of my other FB friends has a t-baller in Pelham Bay LL. Dont know their team name, but from the pictures he posted, they wear green tees and caps.



we played them last night , the Colts....fun times......

Vic Sage
Apr 20 2012 09:16 AM
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my dad was my coach. it didn't go well. As a consequence, I swore to never coach my kids, which is good because they never listen to me anyway. Having them not listen in front of a dozen other kids would probably have led to bloodshed, so its just as well.

instead i go and cheer. its better for everybody. and my wife is the one who gets on the coach about playing time. i just shake his hand and nod sympathetically as they complain about these "baseball moms".

My son is playing again this year and i can't wait for him to give up. He's just not cut out for it, and he doesn't even like sports so i'm not sure why he insists on putting himself through it. But i go and cheer and have a lot of practice saying "yeah, that pitch was low. you got a bad call there" and "good try" and such. But it eats me up watching him live out my worst childhood memories. Next year he moves up to middle school, and unless he's improved enough to at least keep himself safe on the field, i don't think we'll even let him play anymore. The potential for disaster increases as the boys get bigger. He's good at and interested in so many other things, i just don't get this.

My daughter, on the other hand, is a terrific catcher and is getting screwed by her no-nothing JV HS coach. After the varsity coach so strongly recruited her, encouraging us to abandon her tournament travel team to focus on the school team, this douche is playing a sophomore over her who can't kiss her ass defensively. The other kid is probably a better hitter, but not by much. My wife was going to start stirring things up but our princess just got her arm broke on a foul tip, so she's out anyway. After the play, she just flipped the ball back to the pitcher and it wasn't until she was getting ready to hit that she realized she was seriously hurt. no tears, no whining, just a trip to the emergency room for x-rays and a week or 2 on the "dl", as it were. There is no crying in baseball, she said. I was so proud i could've peed myself. It's a hairline fracture in the forearm by the elbow; they treat it like a sprain. Not that bad. Hopefully, when she's ready to play again, the other kid's shaky D will have frustrated the coach sufficiently that we won't have to deal with the issue of her playing time.

Edgy MD
Apr 21 2012 10:59 PM
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Lorcan, showing the old sportsmanship.



Hey, Pelham Bay groundskeeper! Get with the program!

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 22 2012 12:42 PM
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The spring children's soccer season begins next Saturday. Peter is excited to find out that his team will be wearing his favorite color - blue.

HahnSolo
Apr 22 2012 06:33 PM
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Lorcan needs to swing for that short porch in left.

soupcan
Apr 23 2012 01:48 PM
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soupy, jr.'s baseball-playing days came to an end last summer when he saw the writing on the wall and knew that he would not make the freshman baseball team at the high school. He played last summer but chose not to play in the fall. He was good enough to make the travel teams but he rarely played and never started. I give him kudos for recognizing the situation and deciding for himself to quit playing.

This spring he went out for volleyball and was one of three freshman to make the JV squad. He's enjoying the sport and is really happy to be on a team where he feels that he is contributing. I've got a bit of learning to do as my only volleyball experience came in junior high school gym class. I've watched a few matches and it is more exciting than I remember. The JV games are a little sloppy but the varsity is a well-oiled machine – dig, - set – spike! Fun to watch and I'm glad he's found something to keep him busy, make him happy and keep that growing body moving.

My daughter plays on a U11 travel soccer team and has been a significant contributor for the past two seasons. In the fall they finished in 2nd place with their only loss of the season coming to the team that finished in first. We were really looking forward to this spring's season which started last weekend with a 5-0 shellacking of one of the tougher teams in the league (suck it Stamford). Unfortunately, my girl is having knee surgery on Wednesday so her season is effectively over. Fortunately its nothing structural and she should be 100% after rehab with no recurring effects. After we told the other parents on the team, they were a little pissed we weren't waiting until after after the season to have it done. Ridiculous on their part really, but kinda cool that she is considered such an integral part of the team that they were upset she wouldn't be out there.

Frayed Knot
Apr 23 2012 02:16 PM
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Volleyball's a good sport which unfortunately was considered a sissy "girls only" deal back when many of us were back in our school days.
Now that was probably different in some spots on the west coast (although even there I suspect guys played it more as a beach/recreation thing than a scholastically organized sport) or in the mid-west where indoor sports were often a featured part of places with long, cold winters. But on L.I. I know they didn't even offer it to boys until a bunch of years after I was out of HS and even then it was very slow to start, just a couple schools at a time.

I picked it up playing in company teams and occasionally in beach tourneys and had a blast. It's also a good co-ed sport (what, you think I picked it up for the exercise?) since, although height helps, there are plenty of places for those who aren't and, because there were plenty of girls who did play an organized/coached version, many of them could play on an equal (or better) footing since they were better instructed in the sport and could make up for the differences in size & strength.

soupcan
Apr 23 2012 02:28 PM
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Oh its certainly not a 'sissy' sport. You be hard-pressed to get me to stand in there against some of these 6'3" 17 year-olds slamming that ball right into my face.

Also - they actually televise the high school games on MSG. The varsity (Staples, HS in Westport, CT) has already been on at least once.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 29 2012 09:32 PM
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We had our first game on Saturday. I had a great time but already I'm dealing with a real little league crisis. One of our players is learning disabled or autistic (or abused) to a considerable degree. He can be very sweet but in the limited time we've been involved I've also seen him drift outer space for large stretches. On Saturday after one round of hitting on the tee he decided to sit in the outfield. Me and 2 other coaches repeatedly tried to get him to participate in fielding but he just nodded his head 'no' and would not get up.

After the game I learned from Wifey that his mother was loudly complaining that we coaches were not helping the boy and also, heaping a good amount of verbal abuse on the boy himself. She was very harsh on him after the game (she said she was 'humilated') and he was inconsolably crying. Wifey guessed he was/is abused; at the very least they are not well equipped as parents especially for a boy who for whatever reason requires a lot of extra attention. Heartbtreaking. Dad (who was not there yesterday) in the meantime wrote today to ask to be a coach, saying he would not "sit around doing nothing" like the other coaches. I can sense they desperately want their boy participating and having fun (as we all do) but I also suspect they are pursuing every avenue of blame in the event it doesn't work out. I've been trying to craft a respectful response for 2 hours that says we have enough coaches already (which we do) while also saying providing positive encouragement and helping the boy understand the expectations of being a part of a team are the best things he can do to help. Very difficult.

On the positive side I think I discovered being an elementary school gym teacher is my calling.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 30 2012 04:24 AM
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My first thought: Instead of adding the dad to your coaching staff, allow him "coach's access" to his own son during the games and practices. I'm not sure exactly what that would mean, but it sounds like this one kid needs some extra attention, and having his dad there to be the one to provide it might be helpful, as long as he doesn't turn out to be the same kind of jackass the mom is.

Edgy MD
Apr 30 2012 05:15 AM
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Yeah, that sounds like a pickle.

The full access that the coaches have to the field at that level is a bonus and the parents could be helpful in telling you how you can reach the kid out there. Or gently volunteered to coach out there without attacking or undermining you and your staff. That they attack you after the game and spoke of their embarrassment at their child's childishness seems weak/sad.

But you know, try not to jump to conclusions. He could just be developmentally behind other kids (at that age, a broad range is going to be there) in the all-important standing-up-and-paying-some-modicum-of-attention category. I mean, outfield sucks, right?

Talk to the dad, try not to be too defensive even when justified. Keep the focus on the kid. Ask what your coaches could do. Like Grimmy said, be willing to offer him some coach's access, but don't make that offer until you get a feel for how big a tool he is. If you don't have a plan for going forward at the end of the conversation, talk to a more experienced manager or league official --- maybe the one whose team was batting during the outfield meltdown.

Edgy MD
Apr 30 2012 05:21 AM
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Oh, and reassure the folks that they have nothing to be embarrassed about. At that age, if you start a game with 15 kids on the roster and none ends it in the hospital, it's a good game. Cripes.

Send him this. Share with him the freaky shit Ivan does.

themetfairy
Apr 30 2012 05:45 AM
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I'd be reluctant to give the dad field access. Right now he's just messing up his own kid; you don't want him to have extra access to the other kids too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 30 2012 06:10 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
I'd be reluctant to give the dad field access. Right now he's just messing up his own kid; you don't want him to have extra access to the other kids too.


Yeah, that's the main reason I must enforce the 'we-have-the-required-complement-of-coaches' rule. I want to think he means well but the behavior (particularly of his wife) is something the others would best do without. Besides to take him at his word what needs to happen is for the coaching to change; they're not acknowledging the boy's refusal to participate even happened (with me; as I said it was obvious they have another position on it for the boy). It's f-ed up.

I tried to keep the response brief and positive, suggesting we take what went well in the first practice as a buiilding block etc etc.

Fman99
Apr 30 2012 06:41 AM
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Fboy is a Yankee, once again. Coached by my neighbor who lives down the street. This year the kids pitch half the game and then the coaches take over. They have outs, and balls, and strikes. It's finally baseball.

The down side? His first game lasted 2 hours and 45 minutes. These weeknight games are going to be some long ass days.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 30 2012 07:23 AM
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How realistic/productive do you think it would be to ask for their advice in what their son needs-- sort of a "coaching your son" coaching, labeled as such?

Edgy MD
Apr 30 2012 07:26 AM
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Brevity is smart. If I've learned anything from my experience of listening to the regurgitations of e-mail conversations between my wife and the parents of her piano students, folks will comb through every letter of e-mails looking for signs of contempt and disrespect. And they'll find them. (Heck, they'll earn them.) You have your insecurities as a first-time manager/coach. They've clearly got their desperate insecurities as parents.

You won't come to any accommodation that satisfies them until you talk to Daddy-O face-to-face, so. (If he can't make a game or practice as an observer, he's certainly got no argument demanding he be a coach.) Rope another coach into the chat (a) for moral support, and (b) to demonstrate to him your staff's engagement with his kid.

Seriously, though, the sooner parents realize you're not going to make Mickey Mantles out of every booger-picker out there, the better. If you get through a game and no kid is trapped in a sewer pipe, good for you. Engagement, fun, and teamwork is the goal.

themetfairy
Apr 30 2012 07:39 AM
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Does your Little League have a player agent? Ours does, specifically to mediate in player/staff issues. Perhaps he/she can assist you.

metsmarathon
Apr 30 2012 07:45 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
If you get through a game and no kid is trapped in a sewer pipe, good for you.


i worry about what happened to you as a young little leaguer sometimes...

soupcan
Apr 30 2012 08:36 AM
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So I've got three kids. My eldest and youngest played and play sports. My youngest was never drawn to it. Just not his bag. You know, the sensitive, creative type.

Before we realized that he had no aptitude towards athletic endeavors we pushed a bit just to make sure he tried. When he was 6 - which I believe is the age that little league starts in our town - I volunteered to coach his team in order to try and make it seem more appealing to him.

My assistant coach - Jim - was doing it for the exact same same reason as me. After the first few practices it was apparent that Jim's son - Mitchell - and my son Joe, were going to be the least interested and participatory kids on the team. Jim and I decided to each take over the individual coaching of the other guy's kid. We figured that maybe we could both be more objective that way. So I paid more attention to Mitchell during practices and games and Jim did the same with Joe.

Now Lunchy - I don't know this kid with the wacky parents and I of course did not see your game, but based on the experience I had with Jim, Mitchell and Joe - I've learned that some kids just don't like playing baseball. It may have nothing to do with any misbehavior of the parents at home. Despite mine and Jim's best efforts, neither Mitchell - who was later diagnosed as autistic and has become an incredible musician and student - the kid is fucking brilliant and fucking weird - nor Joe - who while not the best student in the world, has found his niche on stage - ever gained any kind of appreciation or joy from baseball. Joe would garden in short centerfield while Mitchell would make dust pies at third base. It wasn't for lack of coaching attention.

My advice to you would be to pay a little more attention to the kid - especially during games. Show the parents that you are giving him a little individual attention. If he responds, great, if he doesn't - how can they blame you? The sooner they learn that the kid just doesn't dig it, the better off everybody wil be.

Centerfield
Apr 30 2012 08:47 AM
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We had our third game this weekend. Still a tremendous amount of fun.

Things the Red Sox have already mastered:
1. They all know to run after hitting the ball.
2. First Baseman is now consistently remembering to cover first (though now they all stand on the bag and don't move off of it.)
3. Everyone has mastered the sequence of bases and know to drop the bat before they run.

Things the Red Sox are still working on:
1. Paying attention. Hard to focus on the batter when there are important drawings to be made in the dirt.
2. Throwing to a base after fielding a ball rather than chasing the runner.
3. Remembering to advance a base when your teammate hits.

Couple of other thoughts:
*I find it hard not to yell instructions to Ryan when he is out in the field. He hits fine and he catches the ball when it's hit to him, but he spends more than half the time chatting and joking around. One time a ball hit him in the chest because he was too busy making faces at the other team. I want to yell to him to pay attention, but hold it in while telling myself "Don't be the douchy dad. Don't be the douchy dad."
*It's a league where no score is kept. Still, it doesn't stop each team from keeping their own score. This is a challenge for six year olds who struggle with the concept of counting. The fun thing is that each team has their version of the score, and manage to just barely edge the other team every game. You will see a team celebrating the go-ahead run with the other side completely oblivious that they have given it up. During the post-game handshake, each team thinks they've won.

Centerfield
Apr 30 2012 08:50 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
Does your Little League have a player agent? Ours does, specifically to mediate in player/staff issues. Perhaps he/she can assist you.


Exactly. There's got to be some league official who can help you with this. I think it's unfair to dump this on you.

Edgy MD
Apr 30 2012 08:51 AM
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soupcan wrote:
My advice to you would be to pay a little more attention to the kid - especially during games. Show the parents that you are giving him a little individual attention. If he responds, great, if he doesn't - how can they blame you? The sooner they learn that the kid just doesn't dig it, the better off everybody wil be.

Pretty solid thinking, I think.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 30 2012 09:54 AM
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I agree appearances will help, but it should have been clear to any observer this boy required and got more attention than the other participants in the game, the idea that he was ignored is just a red herring from the mom. As I said she was simultaneously berating the boy for not listening to us so it's not as though holding opposing opinions is going to stop her. He may or may not be an athlete but when he finally took his turn to hit and ran the bases he had as much fun as anyone, I don't think its anything as simple as he just doesn't like sports. We'll see how this goes.

seawolf17
Apr 30 2012 10:12 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
My advice to you would be to pay a little more attention to the kid - especially during games. Show the parents that you are giving him a little individual attention. If he responds, great, if he doesn't - how can they blame you? The sooner they learn that the kid just doesn't dig it, the better off everybody wil be.

Pretty solid thinking, I think.

We have twins on our team who are separated due to some sort of odd parental issue; they don't live together any more, and I don't think they see each other much outside of games. One of the twins didn't make any of our preseason practices/meetings, so I was a little worried when he showed up to the first game. (Especially considering I couldn't immediately tell him and his brother apart.) On opening day, we had a dugout incident between him and one of my other players (not his brother), which got a little heated. I usually stand in short left and my assistant stands in short right, so I took him out to left field with me the following inning and just kept a running stream-of-consciousness encouragement in his head; I also stuck our most positive kid (the smallest kid on the team, so he wears #1, and says things like "Baseball is AWESOME!" all the time) in left-center. He got mad when a ball came his way and one of the other kids got to it first, so two batters later when another one came to left, I "accidentally" blocked our LCFer so he could get there first; it worked.

I expected the worst the second game, but he's been amazingly positive ever since. I'm not saying I'm some sort of miracle worker, but I'm thrilled that I was able to steer him back on track.

Five games in -- thoughts:
1) All twelve of my kids -- including all three girls -- can hit. In fact, one of my girls might just be the best player on my team; she's enthusiastic, attentive, and really knows what she's doing out there. I'm not sure if we draft next year or not, but right now, I'd want at least eight of these kids back.
2) They do a surprisingly good job of paying attention in the field; they all know to throw it to first base, although only one or two of them can consistently get it close. The only problem is that almost every one of them chases every batted ball, wherever it's hit on the field. They're getting better -- I've taken to yelling out the name of the kid it's hit closest to, which usually stops at least three or four of them, but if it gets past the infield, it's a full-on, nine-person race and eventual collision.
3) My relationship with MiniWolf has gotten much stronger since the season started. He's always been something of a mama's boy so we butt heads a LOT, but he's been really positive about baseball and openly thrilled about me coaching the team. It's fun.

Edgy MD
Apr 30 2012 10:21 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
We have twins on our team who are separated due to some sort of odd parental issue; they don't live together any more, and I don't think they see each other much outside of games.

This is crazy. Your life is a Hayley Mills movie. What sort of maniacal family court allows such an arrangement?

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 30 2012 10:41 AM
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The first soccer practice went well this Saturday. It was amazing how much more focused the kids were on actually playing and listening to the coaches. There were no kids hanging around on the sidelines or wandering around looking bored. It's amazing how much can change between fall season and spring season.

Fman99
May 08 2012 09:57 AM
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Fboy had another solid game yesterday, in a cold rain, playing respectable defense at second and third and going 1-3 with an RBI. He's putting a good level swing on the ball and he's one of the few kids on his team covering his base at the right time.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 20 2012 07:43 PM
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I have to say my diplomacy with the kid and his dad I referred to above was successful and to their credit they've been making a good effort at it ever since, with no drama at all. The boy still tends to shut off at times, most recently this week when he held up the game while we all waited for him to decide whether take a turn at bat. It's a challenge and will likely always be, but its not a big problem for our team anymore and I'm happy about that.

More difficult now is the Whiny Kid (unhappy at every position he's sent to, yet unwilling to put in the effort at the one he wants - first base). The Kid Who Only Wants to Play With the Dirt is a pain but at least doesn't bother the rest of the team too much. Shame on you former coaches who didn't warn of the importance of making clear dugout rules up front: No Fence Climbing, No Fighting, Absolutely No Toys etc. Focus is a big challenge with these guys, and many of them don't see their teammates as allies.

At the risk of coming off like Johnny Clipboard I'm thinking of introducing some discipline (written lineup, assigned positions, etc) for next game and base that at least nominally on their efforts at practice.

Highlight this week was one kid who hammered a ball off the tee into the outfield on a line.

seawolf17
May 20 2012 07:55 PM
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More difficult now is the Whiny Kid (unhappy at every position he's sent to, yet unwilling to put in the effort at the one he wants - first base). The Kid Who Only Wants to Play With the Dirt is a pain but at least doesn't bother the rest of the team too much. Shame on you former coaches who didn't warn of the importance of making clear dugout rules up front: No Fence Climbing, No Fighting, Absolutely No Toys etc. Focus is a big challenge with these guys, and many of them don't see their teammates as allies.

At the risk of coming off like Johnny Clipboard I'm thinking of introducing some discipline (written lineup, assigned positions, etc) for next game and base that at least nominally on their efforts at practice.


Did you post this, or did I? Holy hell, you precisely described the two problem kids on my team and their impact on my world. And I will definitely second the call on the "dugout rules" thing. What the hell is with the fence? GET OFF THE DAMN FENCE. I also need to clear out the "older siblings" issue.

GO WITH THE WRITTEN LINEUPS. I've done it for my last three games, and when they whine, I just point to the lineup. Works like gold.

My wife tells me that I have a couple of parents who like to sit and bitch on the sidelines, but I can't hear them and they haven't approached me directly. I am actually starting to coach a little bit, though; making adjustments to swings, working on actual defense.

We did, however, decide to go to coach-pitch yesterday to shake things up and get them thinking about next season (we only have seven games left). Wow, does that change everything.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 20 2012 08:20 PM
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Thanks! Like you I am having a great time coaching and at the same time finding it very challenging. We will start coach-pitch this week, hopefully after a practice.

Fman99
May 20 2012 08:46 PM
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My son's coach asked me to help out at practice this past Wednesday by throwing pop flies to kids in groups of 3-4 as they rotated from one station to another. I quickly realized that 1) Fboy is better behaved than most or all of his teammates, and 2) most of Fboy's teammates are a pain in the ass of some kind. I am glad to not be the full time coach or manager.

Having said that, Fboy had a nice game yesterday, going 2-3 with a bases loaded walk. He's having fun out there, which is key.

HahnSolo
May 21 2012 10:22 AM
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The posted lineup and position chart (have more than one position chart for different innings) helps tremendously...they like to go look and see where they are and where they hit. also, it cuts off all the "can I play [insert position]" that you will otherwise hear about 900 times.

One other thing for teeballers that could be a help...if a mom is interested in helping out, she could almost be a dugout monitor...making sure everybody is helmeted and ready to go once it is their turn.

I'm assistant coaching for the fourth straight year with Little Solo and we are in the last year of coach-pitch. He's having a good year and looking forward to minors next year. Four doubles and four hard-hit singles in his last two games.

Our last game was the first time we have had any semblance of an argument with the opposing coaches. We are in the field, bases loaded, two outs. Their kid hits a roller up the third base line. It kicks off the grass in foul territory back over the line into fair territory. Our 3b rushes in fields and tosses to Little Solo (playing short but covering third) for the last out. Or so we thought. Their third base coach, after the play is over, calls it foul. I should point out that at this level there are no umpires...coaches make the out/safe calls. Two of our other coaches are in the third base dugout and see it clearly. Me and the manager (in the field monitoring the defense) see it clearly. The opposing manager sees it clearly and is telling his team that it is the third out. Our kids knew it was a fair ball, because we had coached that play to them. But no, their 3rd base coach insists it is foul. I griped pretty loudly, but then backed off (I remember our manager saying earlier that with kids this young there is no good to come out of arguing something like this. If you argue too loudly, you become the asshole, even if you are right). Turns out that one of our other coaches knows this coach pretty well and spent the next half inning talking to him, and it was clear that he did not know the rule. One of the coaches on the other team later pulled me aside to apologize, and I was cool with it. But I told him, if a coach doesn't know the rule, he's gotta ask for help.

Edgy MD
May 21 2012 10:35 AM
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You coached your kids in the fair-foul-fair rule? What are you --- some kind of nut?

HahnSolo
May 21 2012 10:47 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
You coached your kids in the fair-foul-fair rule? What are you --- some kind of nut?


Ha ha. It happened once before on the same field...a teachable moment if you will.

themetfairy
Jun 05 2012 08:32 AM
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So last night a Triple A playoff game ended on a runner being called out at home - not because he was tagged out, but on Coach's Interference. The third base coach physically pushed the kid off the base and towards home - the plate umpire witnessed the action and heard the slap.

Anyone want to guess who the umpire was who made the call?

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2012 08:40 AM
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Hunter Wendelstedt?

themetfairy
Jun 05 2012 09:46 AM
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Yeah, Hunter needed a change of pace.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 26 2012 07:32 PM
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Our season ends Saturday. Survived another minor flare-up when the league received a complaint about the behavior of one of my kids' parents' language. For a rainy season with too few practices we did pretty good, I felt like we were about the most organized of the 6 teams in the league this year, nobody quit, and everybody made a at least a little progress. Look out for the 2nd kid on the left, he's gonna be drafted in 12 years.

seawolf17
Jun 27 2012 07:36 AM
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Awesome. What's better than the Little League team picture? Nothing.



(I bought Mudhens shirts for my assistant and me, but then we added a second assistant. In retrospect, I wish we'd bought an emergency extra. Thankfully, all three of us coaches were Mets fans. Also in retrospect, I wish I'd plied MiniWolf with candy before the team photo, because it was hot and he was whining and wouldn't kneel the right way. At least he smiled.)

Edgy MD
Jun 27 2012 07:46 AM
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Nonsense, that's a great photo and Miniwolf looks great in it. Way to backlight the hair of the she-coach. Who took that shot? Is Ansel Adams doing Little League team photos now?

metirish
Jun 27 2012 07:50 AM
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Lorcan's season finished last Friday with another rain out......league was disorganized , for a league that has been around since 1958 this surprised me......the games that were played late in the day like after 5 all the kids were tired and not at all interested....Lorcan seemed like he didn't want to be there for most of it.....still he's not even 5 so I'll give it another go next season.

HahnSolo
Jun 27 2012 07:55 AM
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Prediction: girl, middle row, second from left, will break at least one of these boys hearts.

The MudHens shirts for the coaches was a smart touch.

Little Solo tried out for and made our town's 8U travel baseball team. Yup, 8U travel. First practice is tonight. No schedule yet, as right now we know of only 4 other 8U teams in the area. Hopefully there isn't too much "travel" involved and we play mostly local teams.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 27 2012 11:10 AM
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Why isn't Benny Agbayani wearing his Mud Hens shirt?

Lefty Specialist
Jun 27 2012 11:25 AM
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In what will probably be his last soccer game ever, Lefty Jr. scores a dorky goal. (It gets by Buckner!!!) He's too old for the league next year, and his goals were few and far between, but he gets to savor this one all summer because his old man is the video guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f4pwXjYUlk

seawolf17
Jun 27 2012 11:41 AM
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Prediction: girl, middle row, second from left, will break at least one of these boys hearts.

She's awesome. And her little sister and my daughter are the same age and became friends during the season, so I figure MiniWolf has an extra hook once he realizes what girls are. She's also the only player of the twelve to make it to every game, and she can play. She's very high on my list to bring back next year. Her, the boy to her right, and the entire front row. If I can start with those seven and my son next year, I'm set for 2014 when we start keeping score.

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Why isn't Benny Agbayani wearing his Mud Hens shirt?

He joined us as a second assistant the day after we got them in the mail.

soupcan
Jun 28 2012 09:26 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
In what will probably be his last soccer game ever, Lefty Jr. scores a dorky goal. (It gets by Buckner!!!) He's too old for the league next year, and his goals were few and far between, but he gets to savor this one all summer because his old man is the video guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f4pwXjYUlk


How come its his last game ever?

MFS62
Jun 28 2012 03:05 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
In what will probably be his last soccer game ever, Lefty Jr. scores a dorky goal. (It gets by Buckner!!!) He's too old for the league next year, and his goals were few and far between, but he gets to savor this one all summer because his old man is the video guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f4pwXjYUlk

Good for him. Good for you.
Like a ballplayer hitting a home run in his last major league at-bat.

Later

Lefty Specialist
Jun 28 2012 08:00 PM
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soupcan wrote:
In what will probably be his last soccer game ever, Lefty Jr. scores a dorky goal. (It gets by Buckner!!!) He's too old for the league next year, and his goals were few and far between, but he gets to savor this one all summer because his old man is the video guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f4pwXjYUlk


How come its his last game ever?


It's an under-17 Inter-County League, and he'll be 17 soon. He'd have to have been Pele Jr. to make the high school team. Which means there's no place for him to play next year, unfortunately.

So in Crash Davis style, he hit his dinger and hung 'em up.

soupcan
Jun 29 2012 08:27 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
It's an under-17 Inter-County League, and he'll be 17 soon. He'd have to have been Pele Jr. to make the high school team. Which means there's no place for him to play next year, unfortunately.

So in Crash Davis style, he hit his dinger and hung 'em up.


That's a bummer, sorry to hear it.




Speaking of our kids and soccer - my 11 year old daughter is fully recovered from her knee surgery and has been given the green light by her doctor to resume all activities with no limitations. Well actually he said 'no trampolines' primarily because he sees too many injuries from that and not so much having to do with her particular issue.

Because of her surgery, she was not able to participate in try-outs for next season's travel squads. The coaches, etc. that decide who is going to be on which teams for next season told us not to worry, they know who she is, what her situation is and what kind of player she is. So we assumed that of the two travel teams available to her (the U12 'Blue' team which is the better team with the best players or the U12 'White' team which is the second tier and the team she was on this past season) she would remain on the White team.

She's very competitive and even though putting her on the White team made the most sense (that was the team she was on and she only played one game this spring prior to the surgery), she still was disappointed with that prospect.

So the rosters came out and she's on the Blue team.

We were amazed and she was of course thrilled. The only reasons I can think of to rationalize the move was that this past fall she was on the U11 White team, played every game and that team lost only 1 game. Without her in the spring the same team won only 1 game and that was the game she played. She is primarily a fullback and without her the defense was a mess. Also, the vast majority of the girls fancy themselves offensive players so there was much more competition at that position.

Needless to say she's thrilled and we're happy for her but if I'm a parent of one of the other girls on her team that did not move up to Blue - and there were some talented girls that were on her team that did not move up - I'd be a little miffed that a girl that neither played this spring nor participated in try-outs, got moved up over their daughter that did both.

Its a bit of a big deal too because the way the travel teams are set up are that they start at age 9 with 3 teams per age division. For example there is a Red team as well as White and Blue for ages 9-11. At the U12 level, the Red team is dropped and you have to be good enough to make either White or Blue. They keep both White & Blue through U13 and then by U14, its only the one team (Blue) and if you don't make it you're done. If you are on the Blue team at any point, it's a much easier road to stay on it rather than to keep trying to move up to it.



'You gotta problem with me making the Blue Team...?'

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 29 2012 08:45 AM
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Congrats to the Can-ette.

I feel like I oughta get my assistant coaches some kind of thank-you gift (the kids are all getting baseball cards and get to take home one of the balls we used).

What should I be looking for?

Edgy MD
Jun 29 2012 08:51 AM
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Assistant coaches: photos of the team, caps, MbtN tees, baseball signed by each member of the team, Baseball Project CDS, Bad News Bears DVDS, team tattoos, that's all I come up with.

Regarding Little Shecan: I come from a soccerhead town. Rockville Fucking Centre. If they could, they'd pass an ordinance that required a certificed coach on every patch of green space of a half acre or more. Issue tickets for improper trapping technique.

I have a baby cousin who I barely knew growing up. From Commack. Proud athletic tradition, but not the soccer giant that RVC is (and I say this with no pride.) My pubescent cousin was awesome at soccer but could never make the state team for her age group. One year, she misses half the year with a leg injury (safe assumption she tour her ACL). Her mother and my mom don't much get along, but they have to chat on occasion with family business, and my aunt says that her daughter will be out in RVC making her third or fourth attempt at the soccer team, and she's unsure if she should bother because she hasn't been on a competitive field in six months.

My mother jokingly suggests they put our address on her registration form. But my crazy aunt takes her up on it. My uncle shows up with the girl the next weekend for tryouts and explains to the coach about how rusty his daughter is, and they won't perhaps see her at her best.

The coach looks down at his clipboard for her name and information and says, "Oh, Meghan H. from Rockville Centre? She can sit out the tryout, we've got her down as already making the team."

Youth soccer politics can really suck. They had girls down there from Western New York trying out who didn't have a chance.

themetfairy
Jun 29 2012 08:55 AM
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Is it feasible to give your coaches some kind of gift card along with a heartfelt note?

If you can't swing the gift cards, make sure the heartfelt notes are really well written.

Frayed Knot
Jun 29 2012 08:59 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
The coach looks down at his clipboard for her name and information and says, "Oh, Meghan H. from Rockville Centre? She can sit out the tryout, we've got her down as already making the team."

Youth soccer politics can really suck. They had girls down there from Western New York trying out who didn't have a chance.


So they're using what is supposedly a public league and public land to run what essentially becomes a private club.
Let's see now, what's the best way to put this? ... Ooh, I got it: How very Nassau County/Town of Hempstead of them

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 29 2012 09:04 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
Is it feasible to give your coaches some kind of gift card along with a heartfelt note?

If you can't swing the gift cards, make sure the heartfelt notes are really well written.


Heartfelt notes?!? I'm already getting the gheychills for giving another guy a gift.

seriously, thanks for the suggestions!

Swan Swan H
Jun 29 2012 09:06 AM
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How about a cap from their favorite team? Butch enough, and something they will likely use.

soupcan
Jun 29 2012 09:10 AM
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I don't recall ever giving assistant coach gifties or getting any from the head coach.

The parents usually do the gift card thing for all the coaches.

soupcan
Jun 29 2012 09:17 AM
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Assistant coaches: photos of the team, caps, MbtN tees, baseball signed by each member of the team, Baseball Project CDS, Bad News Bears DVDS, team tattoos, that's all I come up with.

Regarding Little Shecan: I come from a soccerhead town. Rockville Fucking Centre. If they could, they'd pass an ordinance that required a certificed coach on every patch of green space of a half acre or more. Issue tickets for improper trapping technique.

I have a baby cousin who I barely knew growing up. From Commack. Proud athletic tradition, but not the soccer giant that RVC is (and I say this with no pride.) My pubescent cousin was awesome at soccer but could never make the state team for her age group. One year, she misses half the year with a leg injury (safe assumption she tour her ACL). Her mother and my mom don't much get along, but they have to chat on occasion with family business, and my aunt says that her daughter will be out in RVC making her third or fourth attempt at the soccer team, and she's unsure if she should bother because she hasn't been on a competitive field in six months.

My mother jokingly suggests they put our address on her registration form. But my crazy aunt takes her up on it. My uncle shows up with the girl the next weekend for tryouts and explains to the coach about how rusty his daughter is, and they won't perhaps see her at her best.

The coach looks down at his clipboard for her name and information and says, "Oh, Meghan H. from Rockville Centre? She can sit out the tryout, we've got her down as already making the team."

Youth soccer politics can really suck. They had girls down there from Western New York trying out who didn't have a chance.



Yeah - we're not there....yet. Probably starts for us year after next when there is only the Blue team and everybody's scrambling for a spot somewhere. Lot of girls play for these 'elite' travel clubs in Fairfield County (Beachside, Everton and Magic I think are the three that draw from our town). I'm kind of mixed on her trying out for them right now. I like the town program and she has shown significant improvement in the years since she started playing. She started as a 6 year old playing Rec League, then made the Red travel team, moved up to White and is now Blue. That tells me that the instruction is pretty good. Why go elsewhere?

Maybe my mind will change and ultimately its going to be her decision but right now I'm happy to not have to deal with any of it.

Edgy MD
Jun 29 2012 09:19 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
The coach looks down at his clipboard for her name and information and says, "Oh, Meghan H. from Rockville Centre? She can sit out the tryout, we've got her down as already making the team."

Youth soccer politics can really suck. They had girls down there from Western New York trying out who didn't have a chance.


So they're using what is supposedly a public league and public land to run what essentially becomes a private club.
Let's see now, what's the best way to put this? ... Ooh, I got it: How very Nassau County/Town of Hempstead of them


Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was an All-State team, but yeah, very ToH.

I grew up with summers at Sands Beach Club, which was essentially a private club on public land. My parents registered for the club in 1973 after the Town o' Hemp slapped enough plaster together to make it habitable, and they were put on a waiting list --- number 17. They called up in spring 1974 and found out they had fallen into the high 30s. They complained and got some bullshit about lists merging.

They switched their voter registration to the Republican party and got a call two weeks later to come look at their new beach cabana. Thanks, Town of Hempstead!

Funny thing was that they were only Democrats when they lived in Queens for the same sort of bullshit.

HahnSolo
Jun 29 2012 09:47 AM
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soupcan wrote:
I don't recall ever giving assistant coach gifties or getting any from the head coach.

The parents usually do the gift card thing for all the coaches.


This. Absolutely this. If your parents didn't do anything for you guys, boo on them.

Frayed Knot
Jun 29 2012 10:04 AM
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Yeah, I was thinking specifically of those Beach Club stories that became public right around the time I first lived there (growing up in Suffolk County we never had that sort of thing ... never mind why they called it Crookhaven).

I'd play golf every now and then at Lido Beach, which was ToH run. There was a "Men's Club" there who had a lock on all the best tee times and it was known far and wide that only insiders with connections were, or ever could be, members. Again, it was insiders essentially running a private club with public money.

seawolf17
Jun 29 2012 10:27 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
soupcan wrote:
I don't recall ever giving assistant coach gifties or getting any from the head coach.

The parents usually do the gift card thing for all the coaches.


This. Absolutely this. If your parents didn't do anything for you guys, boo on them.

Boo, then. I got ugatz from my parents, but didn't expect anything.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 29 2012 10:41 AM
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I definitely don't expect anything. But I feel like I begged all the coaches into helping me, and they really did wind up helping.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 29 2012 11:19 AM
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soupcan wrote:
I don't recall ever giving assistant coach gifties or getting any from the head coach.

The parents usually do the gift card thing for all the coaches.


Yes, that's been my experience as well.

Give your assistant coaches a "Thanks" and a handshake and a "Have a great summer."

Lefty Specialist
Jun 29 2012 08:05 PM
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We always took up a donation among the parents. Mrs. Lefty always stepped in if no one else stepped up.

HahnSolo
Jul 12 2012 12:42 PM
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Question for those of you with older baseballers than little Solo (just turned 9). Have your kids used a heart guard? If so, how often? All the time, only when he pitched, never? Just trying to get a gauge. I know one parent who has his kid wearing it all the time.

The travel team my son is on this summer is his first experience with hardball. His little league team this year was coach-pitch, and we used a softer ball. As practices roll on, it looks like he is going to be primarily playing first base and pitching. Him being on the mound concerns me, and even more so my wife, who has visions of a line drive coming right back at him. Plus playing at first base he'll have kids gunning it across the diamond at him.

It's not required (only a cup is), but I'm wondering if it is a worthwhile investment, even for just peace of mind.

heart guard:

Edgy MD
Jul 12 2012 12:56 PM
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Cute cyborg child.

themetfairy
Jul 12 2012 01:11 PM
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MK never used one, but he's significantly older than Young Solo.

How much is the investment? Will he have a chance to try one on to see whether it's comfortable?

I'm not going to say that it never happens, but it's REALLY rare for a kid to be hit in the chest (especially at the 9-year-old level). OTOH, if you think that he's going to be playing for a few more years and you want him to get used to it now (and I'm assuming it's a one-size-fits-all kind of item), then you might want to get him used to it at an early age if it will give you peace of mind.

HahnSolo
Jul 12 2012 01:37 PM
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themetfairy wrote:

How much is the investment? Will he have a chance to try one on to see whether it's comfortable?


Looks like the cheaper versions run in the $15-20 range, others go way up from there. And I would have him try it on...his first game is a week from tomorrow. That's really not a lot for peace of mind, I guess.

HahnSolo
Aug 17 2012 07:17 AM
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Here is Little Solo in his travel team pitching debut (heart guard and all).



He came on in relief, went an inning and two thirds, struck out 4 and walked one. But his defense made 3 errors behind him, plus a fielder's choice that did not result in an out. So a couple of unearned runs go in his ledger.

They lost all three games in this tournament, but since they played up (an 8u team in a 9u tournament), that was to be expected. Their final tournament this summer will be in Queens on the 25th/26th.

seawolf17
Aug 17 2012 07:35 AM
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His manager should try putting some fielders behind him. Kid can't do it all himself, you know.

HahnSolo
Aug 17 2012 07:42 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
His manager should try putting some fielders behind him. Kid can't do it all himself, you know.


Good point. They're either in a really wild shift, or this is his warmup tosses (I didn't take the picture, so I'm not sure).

Edgy MD
Aug 17 2012 07:56 AM
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What do you think of the rugs kids play on today?

metsmarathon
Aug 17 2012 08:04 AM
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my college was an early adopter of nexturf. the track team was discouraged from ever setting foot on it, because of some intra-athletic department bullshit. but it seemed like a good idea. the turf, not keeping us off it.

HahnSolo
Aug 17 2012 08:10 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
What do you think of the rugs kids play on today?


He loved the field turf (another game was played on their grass field). Said it was soft and eliminated the fear of terrible hops they encounter on grass/turf. Much as I like the real stuff, the quality of the grass fields they play on (especially in August) is pretty lousy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2012 09:14 AM
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Got an Argentine coach this year and sweet unis.

metirish
Feb 20 2013 09:49 AM
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The guy that runs the baseball clinic that Lorcan goes to is a dead ringer for Terry Collins, in looks and attitude.....really , really upbeat...kids love him....you can tell he's a baseball lifer type...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 20 2013 10:45 AM
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Pics or GTFO

metirish
Feb 20 2013 10:50 AM
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Pix on Saturday.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 20 2013 11:01 AM
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"Say... bunt the runner over!"

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 11 2013 10:25 AM
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As you might recall from earlier in this thread, I was mentioning our local little league was a little weird, but I struggled through as the coach during me & Lunchpail's first year and resolved to give it one more shot this year.

Looks like things will be even weirder this year. For one, I had NO CLUE that the next step from coach-pitch/teeball with Soft Core balls was to be kids pitching/hardball, or that that league would include kids from age 7 through age 9 (That's a pretty wide range! Is that normal?) I discovered all this just this weekend at "tryouts" where they brought a bunch of kids at a local batting range to see them field a few grounders, catch a few popups and swing at a tee.

I'd signed up to be a coach again with the understanding that I'd get a team to run only if enough kids signed up. Knock on wood, I'm lucky turnout was light this year, but I still got in with [crossout:1u3mx1rn]the cast of the Sopranos[/crossout:1u3mx1rn] the other volunteer coaches to watch and "rate" the kids as they took their swings for a draft taking place this week. It looks as though I will assist another coach, which is more than fine with me.

All the coaches but me have been there for years and appear to be doing it for the gamesmanship. For example, not all the kids to be drafted showed up to try out: Those kids will be represented by "hat picks" in the draft. For example when it's your turn to pick a player you can select one of the ones you watched at tryouts of a "mystery hat pick" -- a huge advantage for someone who would have coached many of the kids a year ago. They also freely engage in trades and whatnot and I came to realize this league really isn't run for the benefit of the kids nor the parents, but for the small group of coach/administrators. Very weird.

metirish
Mar 11 2013 10:39 AM
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Doesn't sound like much fun JCL , haven't had an email from Lorcan's LL about clinics in three weeks....seems a tad disorganized again.....plus the fields got damaged during Sandy and I have my doubts the city(parks department) will have them fixed as promised by April

seawolf17
Mar 11 2013 10:59 AM
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Weird. We go to coach-pitch for year 2, then pitching machine for next year. THEN the kids start pitching. So we've got a ways to go. Our first meeting is tonight; we'll see how it goers.

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 11 2013 11:26 AM
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Registration for t-ball is in two weeks. Peter is very excited.

Farmer Ted
Mar 11 2013 11:56 AM
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Mini Ted has her sport, tennis. She took to it mainly because the ladies can trot onto the court with fancy outfits. Whatever works. She pretty much breezed through the K-3 portion of the program and is now lumped in with grades 3-6 (and some good boys in grades 1 and 2 made the cut). Not bad for a first grade chickster. She's the tiniest thing out there and teams up in doubles with a sixth grader who could pass for Rebecca Lobo, height and all. She sometimes struggles with the long baseline returns but God help you for laying one in at the service line. If she had a Russian surname, Nick Bollettieri would be stalking her.

soupcan
Mar 11 2013 12:01 PM
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In our town I think the kids started pitching in 3rd grade.

The worst part about it was that the games drag on and on because there are so many walks.

Have fun suckahs!

Centerfield
Mar 11 2013 12:41 PM
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My son went from teeball/coach pitch (6's), to coach pitch "overhand" (7's). Which is what they were doing anyway.

I don't think they pitch for another few years.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 11 2013 12:45 PM
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That's what I expected we would get this year, but evidently there are not enough returnees from Season 1 of tee-ball/coach pitch to field teams for year 2 so they throw the 7-year-olds in with 8s and 9s. To me that seems like a big step.

The league's policy of providing no practices for the younguns I'm sure is a contributor to the churn rate.

HahnSolo
Mar 11 2013 04:45 PM
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Our league is tee ball for 5s and 6s (must be 5 by May 1 of the year); "Instructional" or coach-pitch with a tee ball for 7s and 8s; "Minors" which is kid-pitch with a hard ball for 9s and some 10s; and "Majors" for the better 10s, plus all 11s and 12s; Majors is the level you see at Williamsport. Little Solo is finally getting up to Minors this year, weird because he's already on a hardball travel team.
And this was my first experience with a draft. It was not really cutthroat, but you could see guys trying to game the system to get advantages. Adding to the drama is the fact that Little Solo's travel coach has asked me not to pitch him in little league. 9-year old baseball. It's fannn-tastic!

HahnSolo
Mar 11 2013 04:47 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
That's what I expected we would get this year, but evidently there are not enough returnees from Season 1 of tee-ball/coach pitch to field teams for year 2 so they throw the 7-year-olds in with 8s and 9s. To me that seems like a big step.


If this is only his second year, then that is a pretty big step up.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 11 2013 09:33 AM
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M-WP, Jr. starts tee ball on April 20th. He's on a team with three of his buddies. It's also sponsored by a local cafe known for it's terrific popovers so I'm expecting good snacks.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2013 03:12 PM
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Sabermetrics of tee ball: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/45 ... d=tw_share

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 18 2013 04:38 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Sabermetrics of tee ball: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/45 ... d=tw_share


Awesome. I'm all ready for Saturday (my TPar rating is 0).

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 18 2013 05:35 PM
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Lunchpail had his first baseball practice today... rained out. Drizzled out is more like it.

First soccer game was last weekend. He was unhappy that his coach made him a defenseman after the first practice. I said if he wanted to get on O he'd have to show the coach he could score and sure enough got a breakaway and scored his team's first goal. Team lost big time (11-5 or soemthing) but they have lots of fast kids and I'm predicting playoffs (if there were playoffs)...

seawolf17
Apr 18 2013 05:52 PM
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We're three games into our season and we've had a grand total of ONE strikeout. These kids can mash. They have no idea what happens when they get the ball on defense, but we can work on that.

metirish
Apr 24 2013 08:29 PM
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Picked up Lorcan's kit tonight, his team the Pilots will be sporting Dodger blue, or Mets blue as I call it.


First game is Saturday after the Opening Day parade....

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 24 2013 10:32 PM
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The opening day parade/ceremony for Peter's league was postponed last week due to the lockdown but happily will now take place on Saturday as will Peter's first game. Peter had his first practice on Monday and had a great time. The shirt and hat are blue which makes Peter very happy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 25 2013 08:26 AM
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Our opening day parade is also this Saturday. The league won;t reveal which teams are to play following the parade for fear that nobody would show up for the march otherwise. How stupid is that.

Our team "Red Mayhem" is in bright red this year. Nice look.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 25 2013 08:45 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:


Our team "Red Mayhem" is in bright red this year. Nice look.







metirish
May 02 2013 06:44 AM
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Had a great opening weekend, looks like the other kids here did too....very happy with the coach and our hitting coach....Jimmy the coach has even scheduled practice for 5:30 today,"looks like we need to work on the fundamentals guys, and let the kids run around for an hour".....I like it....Lorcan is so far much more into it this year, he wanted his own bat and such so we went to Modells and got cleats and a bat......they have Nike cleats on sale for $19....

seawolf17
May 02 2013 08:00 AM
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My team is kicking my ass all over the place this year. Just about every kid can hit, and three of them can flat-out crush it. Our last at-bat of every inning clears the bases, so I set the lineup one inning last night to see if my biggest hitter could hit a legit, past-the-outfielders, home run. He did, and was about as excited as I've ever seen him get. (He's mostly the McReynolds type.)

They're even starting to figure it out defensively, but in four innings last night, maybe only a handful of hits actually got past the pitchers' mound, so we didn't make many defensive outs.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 02 2013 08:17 AM
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Our group is barely hanging in there.

Right now we are 0-2 but had the misfortune of being the opening-game opponent for 2 teams, meaning we faced the other team's top pitcher twice (they limit pitchers to 6 innings a week).

Our top pitcher is pretty awesome. He looks like a baseball player with high socks, bubble gum and wraparounds, but he was victimized by a 3-run "homer" in the opener on a ball that was hit about 4 feet in front of home plate and we wound up going down 5-2.

In our game Tuesday nite we had a kid pitching for the first time ever and he walked a lot of guys (innings end when 4 kids are walked, three of our innings ended that way). It was a long, chilly evening and a 9-1 loss. I was pleased that Lunchpail (a 6 year old facing a 9 year old) got his bat on the ball in that game, but was thrown out 1-3.

We seem to have a couple kids who can hit and catch, but we need a few practices. However the stupid league scheduled us for 4 games in this first week (Saturday-Tuesday-Friday-Saturday) -- absolute torture for parents and kids, and you can't ask them to come to practice another day on top of all that. Plus we will have to find a 3rd pitcher for Friday!

metirish
May 02 2013 08:44 AM
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So, your two boys are not in tee-ball?, they are a step above?

Our league goes tee-ball age 4 to 6

farm boys 7 to 8, I guess farm and up play real games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 02 2013 08:54 AM
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My guy is playing in a 7-9 year old age group (he turns 7 next week). The league is all kid pitching.

Vic Sage
May 02 2013 09:22 AM
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my daughter got plucked out of her JV team to be the backup catcher for the varsity squad. She's the only JV player to have been selected to move up. Her bat has come around this season and i think the varsity coach noticed. She's starting tonight.

Edgy MD
May 02 2013 09:36 AM
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Ivanho is Tom Glavine in 1988. He's Jose Reyes in 2003. Not quite ready, but being brought through a baptism-by-fire into a league he will one day dominate.

metsmarathon
May 02 2013 09:48 AM
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tee ball doesn't start by me until minimm is 5 years old, so it's still two years off. boo.

in the meantime, he's already doing a pretty good job of hitting my soft underhanded tosses. got himself a nice little squatted batting stance, too, that i think he developed on his own. i know i didn't teach him it.



when he plays, he's always david wright. i get to be matt davis, an amalgam of ike davis and matt harvey. i'm a freakin' strikeout machine!

i know, i know, its a hollow plastic bat and a squishy rubberish baseball, but he follows the pitch and has very good imaginary plate coverage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 02 2013 09:54 AM
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I'm tellin ya, those backyard whiffle ball games pay off!

seawolf17
May 11 2013 07:33 AM
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One of my favorite kids is one who just doesn't look like a ballplayer. Glasses, helmet doesn't quite fit, a little slower and smaller than everyone else... but I noticed last night he was stepping in the bucket with every swing. We straightened him out a little bit and reset his feet, and his next three ABs drilled hard line drives. My single greatest coaching moment in a season and a half. I'm praying we don't get rained out today because I want him to get four more ABs today.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2013 10:32 AM
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Our guys have won 2 of the last 3, including revenge victory over our opening day foes last night. Offense highlighted by a legit 2 run homer -- line drive between the outfielders, easy trip especially if he hadn't missed 3rd base. Pail, along with the other younger guys still waiting for first hit.

Soccer thriller in the rain this morning, 1_1 at halftime, 2_2 after 3 quarters, and as final of 4-4. Our guys gave up the equalizer each time but were happy.

Fman99
May 13 2013 10:22 AM
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Fboy passed on little league this year -- after three successive seasons with my MFY-loving neighbor as head coach, and with a coaching style that is very in-your-face for 7 and 8 year old kids, he wanted to try a different sport.

Tonight begins youth lacrosse. Should be interesting.

Edgy MD
May 13 2013 10:50 AM
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Other options
[list:ra5ye61d][*:ra5ye61d]Alternative coach.[/*:m:ra5ye61d]
[*:ra5ye61d]Alternative neighbor.[/*:m:ra5ye61d]
[*:ra5ye61d]Alternative neighborhood.[/*:m:ra5ye61d][/list:u:ra5ye61d]

Sevens and eighties are lucky to get their gloves in front of their faces.

Centerfield
May 13 2013 11:52 AM
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I was asked to ump the game this weekend.

Worst experience ever.

metirish
May 13 2013 12:25 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
I was asked to ump the game this weekend.

Worst experience ever.



I can imagine.....


One of the biggest issues we have on our T-Ball team(and all I imagine) is the bigger kids on the team running for every ball hit, no matter where it is hit. On our team that is two boys specifically ...they like to play in the infield but then chase after balls hit past them.....this of course upsets the smaller kids(like Lorcan). Myself and another parent approached the coach about this, his son is one of the two bigger kids.....my thing is I like to try and get all the kids involved and catching a ball and throwing it back in can make their day......this worked better the last day as a parent was at each position with their kid......except the parents of the bigger two.......apparently we are going to work on this tonight at practice.

Edgy MD
May 13 2013 12:37 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
I was asked to ump the game this weekend.

Worst experience ever.

I was a teenaged coach who typically would get drafted into umping my own team's games when the ump didn't show. Try punching out a kid you've been mentoring all year for a called strike three to end a playoff game.

I'm sure the kid still hates me.

HahnSolo
May 13 2013 02:08 PM
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Little Solo's travel team is nearing the conclusion of its spring 9u season, the team's first full season. They're 5-5 with 2 games, a tournament, then possibly playoffs to go (then a summer season to follow).

Little Solo has been raking, at a .500/.533/.607 clip.

He's also playing Little League, where the talent level is a notch below the other league. His team is 4-2-1, and his offense numbers are somewhat below his travel numbers, but that should change by the end of both seasons: .467/.529/.533

He's pitching well and playing a great first base too. So, yeah, I'm a beaming dad around the field.

themetfairy
May 13 2013 02:45 PM
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MK is umpiring Little League again this year. It keeps him involved with the game, but he has control over his schedule so the games don't conflict with his music commitments.

The kid has nerves of steel, and is well suited for the job.

Funny story - We have had a shortage of umpires this year, so D-Dad, the youth umpire coordinator for the league, has been filling in from time to time. About a month ago D-Dad and MK were working a game together - D-Dad behind the plate. D-Dad made a call that a manager didn't like, and the next thing you know the manager goes out to confer with MK in the field. D-Dad was standing there thinking, "is this guy going to ask my kid to overrule my call?"

MK properly told the manager that he could not overrule another umpire and that the manager needed to ask the plate umpire whether he wanted assistance with the call.

We're still not sure whether the manager realized that there was a father/son umpire team that evening.

Centerfield
Jun 22 2013 06:20 AM
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The Galaxies finished up their season undefeated much to the delight of the players, coaches, and most of all the parents. This was the same group of parents who snickered and criticized coaches of other teams who took the game a little too seriously and played their best players at the key positions (our coaches rotated all the kids and the lineups, which we loved).

In the beginning, we joked around with each other, encouraged our kids, but paid no attention to the score. But then the wins started stacking up, and partway through the season we noticed the kids were undefeated. Little by little we started asking what the score was during games, and started thinking "Wouldn't it be cool if...".

By the time we reached the last game, we were openly nervous. One guy brought a scorecard and said he wanted to fill one out for his son to have later. Opposing seven year olds struck out, and were met outward encouragement "Nice cuts #7, you'll get them next time" but also with under the breath whispers of "Yes!" and covert fist pumps. When the Galaxies recorded the last out, they celebrated on the field, while the parents pretended not to care but were secretly happier than their kids.

Then came the moment of truth. The game had ended early. The other coach suggested another inning. Our coach (remember, he is a better guy than us, and focused on teaching the kids and not winning) said "Sure. Hey kids, want to play another inning?"

"Yeah! Let's play another inning! Let's go!"

We exchanged looks with each other. "Another inning? Terrible idea. Actually junior and I have to get groceries, I don't think we have time for another inning."

In the end, the Galaxies held on, and celebrated again. (They got to celebrate an undefeated season twice.)

And the Galaxy parents were left to wonder if they had taken the first step to turning into over-bearing douchebag baseball dads.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 22 2013 06:34 AM
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Congrats to the Galaxy. I can't even begin to explain how effed up this season has been in our league.

Playoffs begin this morning. With our luck we'll win and continue.

(epic post at some future date).

Soccer on the other hand was almost zero stress. We had a fun team that won as many as we lost, never got slaughtered, never slaughtered an opponent.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 22 2013 08:56 PM
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Well, yeah... 'cause everyone's a baseball expert.

seawolf17
Jun 23 2013 06:22 PM
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I wish we could have kept playing; a bunch of my parents asked if I was coaching in the "fall ball" season, and though I had no plans to do so, I think we will continue. For a kid who's not an athlete as far as I can tell, my son has a nice swing and grew a lot as a player this year. It'd be interesting to see if he can make the jump.

Centerfield
Aug 29 2013 08:36 AM
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The Galaxies will have a new coach this fall. Some lawyer from the Upper West Side who, rumors say, likes his scotch and takes random trips to Latvia.

I think it's going to be lots of fun. Ryan and I annoyed my wife last night walking around the house saying:

You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Lollygaggers!

I outlined a general strength and conditioning program for the team last night. I found a local gym that has most of the equipment we need, but if anyone knows of a good meat locker, I would appreciate the information.

themetfairy
Aug 29 2013 09:06 AM
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Let me know if you'd ever like me to photograph these lollygaggers one day :)

Centerfield
Aug 29 2013 09:11 AM
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Really? Wow, that would be great Sharon. Let me talk to the other coaches and see if that's ok with them (we don't have any rosters yet).

There are no team pictures for fall ball. I was just lamenting about that.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 29 2013 09:52 AM
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I think I'm going to be a soccer coach for 5.5-6.5 y.o. kids. Gulp.

themetfairy
Aug 29 2013 09:56 AM
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It would be my pleasure - just let me know the schedule. Would love to do a group shot of the munchkins and some shots of the kids on the field :)

Vic Sage
Aug 29 2013 11:32 AM
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after 2 concussions this summer, my daughter's catching days will be limited to next spring, playing for her HS team. No fall ball. we have to get her some coaching over the winter, though, so she doesn't walk onto the field cold next spring.

soupcan
Sep 03 2013 01:44 PM
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soupy, jr. is contemplating track and the HS ski team this winter. Played JV Volleyball the last two years but he thinks he's had enough of that.

soupy, III is not a 'sporty guy' and the closest he will get to an athletic competition will be the auditions for the HS production of 'Thoroughly Modern Millie'.

soupette is once again playing travel soccer and her first game is this Sunday. She has also joined the 13U field hockey team.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 21 2013 03:50 PM
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Lunchpail is on the Orange Cheese this year. Big win over the Red Ninjas this morning to even their early season record at 1-1.

I am coordinating field setup for the whole league this year, managing equipment shed, wrangling volunteers, painting the stripes, etc. It's like having a second job, only one that starts at 7 a.m. on Saturdays.

Centerfield
Oct 02 2013 07:36 AM
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The Apollos got their first win of the season on Sunday and will look to even their record this weekend. I can't tell you how proud I am of these kids. At 8 years old, you can actually see improvement from week to week. It's just an incredible amount of fun.

My favorite story is the shaggy-haired disinterested kid who was drawing letters in the ground his first day. By the second game, he figured out he could hit a little and his spirits lifted, but he was still lost out in the field. On Sunday, I put him behind the plate, where he had to be involved in every pitch. It's like a light went off in his head. He was calling the number of outs to his infielders and reminding them where the force plays were. After the game, he asked if he could lead his teammates in the line to shake hands.

The best part was when his mother came up to us afterwards and thanked us. He had never had any interest in sports, and she was hoping she hadn't made a mistake by signing him up for baseball when some of the kids had been playing for a year already. She said she couldn't believe her eyes as she watched him on Sunday. She even started to choke up a bit just as the wind picked up and blew some infield dirt into coach's eyes. It's just one game, but I hope that there is some carry-over into next week.

Oh, and Ryan was 3 for 3 with a slick putout at second base.

Hi, I'm Centerfield, and Sunday was my Best Day.

Edgy MD
Oct 02 2013 07:49 AM
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That's great stuff.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 02 2013 06:18 PM
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Yes, but where do you stand on bunting?

Edgy MD
Oct 02 2013 06:30 PM
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Coach's sons always play second base. It's the law.

Centerfield
Oct 03 2013 08:47 AM
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Bunting is for Losers.

Actually it's not allowed. One of the many ways in which Little League > Major League.

I just booked some fancy photographer to come take pics of the kids in a few weeks. She usually does her work in Major League and Minor League games, but is making an exception to trek over to WSLL.

Gawd, I hope she's not intolerable. You know those artsy types.

themetfairy
Oct 03 2013 08:58 AM
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Hey Buster - at least the price is right!

seawolf17
Oct 03 2013 09:00 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Coach's sons always play second base. It's the law.

HOLY FUCK I HATE THAT LAW. Second base has always been my best position -- I'm not fast, but I have good instincts, though I don't have a strong arm to make the throw from third (or, really, from the outfield). But fuckall if every fucking coach I ever had played his fucking kid at second base and stuck me in left field. EFF YOU FORMER COACHES.

metirish
Oct 03 2013 09:28 AM
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I wish my two seasons in Tee-Ball we had a coach like CF ...Lorcan has asked me not to have him play baseball this year "it's no fun", I know at his age it can be tough but our experiences have been just plain bad, disorganized and no coaching at all, to be fair to this past coach he tried but then this one fucking nightmare of a mother took over and that was that, most kids stopped showing up, we would have 4 kids some games....it rained a lot this past June which didn't help.

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2013 10:15 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
The best part was when his mother came up to us afterwards and thanked us. He had never had any interest in sports, and she was hoping she hadn't made a mistake by signing him up for baseball when some of the kids had been playing for a year already. She said she couldn't believe her eyes as she watched him on Sunday. She even started to choke up a bit just as the wind picked up and blew some infield dirt into coach's eyes. It's just one game, but I hope that there is some carry-over into next week.

Be very careful you don't abuse your god-like status.

Centerfield
Oct 03 2013 10:21 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Coach's sons always play second base. It's the law.

HOLY FUCK I HATE THAT LAW. Second base has always been my best position -- I'm not fast, but I have good instincts, though I don't have a strong arm to make the throw from third (or, really, from the outfield). But fuckall if every fucking coach I ever had played his fucking kid at second base and stuck me in left field. EFF YOU FORMER COACHES.


You know the coaches were discussing between themselves that this seawolf kid really has a bad attitude.

There is something to be said about the rules in our league. We have four inning games, and each kid has to play an IF position two innings. Some guys just set two infields and switch them. We switch positions each inning. It's a bitch to prepare for, and one kid not showing up can throw it all off, but I think it's more fun for the kids to rotate positions. Seawolf, come out this sunday, and try to look 8 years old. I promise you'll get an inning at 2B.

(Oh, and Ryan was playing SS at the time, but the putout was at second base. I know, coach's son at SS. I think that makes it worse.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 03 2013 10:23 AM
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We are definitely in the market for a new baseball league this spring and would definitely consider Manhattan. Can you remind me the deets on your league?

HahnSolo
Oct 03 2013 10:23 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Coach's sons always play second base. It's the law.


You need to spend more time around a youth baseball diamond. Coach's sons pitch or play short...always.

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2013 10:29 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

Yeah, see, I'm no daddy-o, but in my experience, if a coach that puts his son on the mound or at short when he's not clearly the most qualified guy for the job, it gets around the league in about six seconds that the coach of the Del Fuegos has the old nepotizz working on his team, and his credibility is quickly undermined. But second base is just featured enough of a position to keep my reputation as a fair and just leader of youngsters, and keep peace with the kid on the ride home, and the wife thereafter.


(Random shot culled from Googling "coach's son at second base.)

Centerfield
Oct 03 2013 11:21 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
We are definitely in the market for a new baseball league this spring and would definitely consider Manhattan. Can you remind me the deets on your league?


West Side Little League.

http://www.westsidebaseball.org/

Pretty sure there is a residency restriction though.

HahnSolo
Oct 03 2013 11:43 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

All Little League organizations are based on residency. There are other orgainzations like Ripken that you could look into.

MFS62
Oct 03 2013 11:46 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

My nine year old grandson plays in a flag football league (there's no pee wee football for kids his age in his town). He plays quarterback and defensive back. Last game he threw a touchdown pass, scored a running touchdown and had two interceptions. If I can make it to a game, I'll send my video to the Jets.

Later

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2013 11:47 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

This is the point where Centerfield goes hat in hand to Mrs. Field and asks if it's OK for Lunchpail and LittleIrish to use their address.

themetfairy
Oct 03 2013 02:42 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

I don't follow.

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2013 02:56 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

I'm lightly referring to the practice of falsifying addresses to get kids into different geographically organized sports leagues.

themetfairy
Oct 03 2013 03:17 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

But why would I care?

I'd take pix of any of my friends' cute kidlets.

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 03 2013 03:53 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
But why would I care?

I'd take pix of any of my friends' cute kidlets.


You're not involved. Mrs Field is the spouse of Centerfield.

themetfairy
Oct 03 2013 04:20 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

OK.

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 03 2013 08:51 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

If it's any consolation, I was confused initially as well because I remember Vic Sage (I think) used to call you Mrs. Fields back in your cookie making days.

themetfairy
Oct 03 2013 08:56 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

Kase also often called me that.

metirish
Oct 03 2013 08:57 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 03 2013 09:04 PM

Ok, now I am not confused , I alternately thought Metfairy was taking the piss or losing her marbles.

themetfairy
Oct 03 2013 09:03 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

It goes back to the MOFO, back when I posted as Cookie Mom (which had to do with the fact that I was in charge of Girl Scout cookie sales when my daughter was in the Brownies).

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2013 09:54 PM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

Sorry to confuse.

Centerfield
Oct 04 2013 07:51 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

If little Lunchie and Irish Jr. can catch the ball a little bit, they can move in.

And to clarify, I love both Mrs. Field and Mrs. Fields, but in very different ways.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 04 2013 07:58 AM
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themetfairy
Oct 04 2013 08:58 AM
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Love you too CF :)

soupcan
Oct 14 2013 07:22 AM
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Soupette, Jr. 2nd row, 4th from the right next to the goalie.

U13 Girls Champs - Bethel, CT Columbus Day Tournament.

Centerfield
Oct 14 2013 10:52 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

Congratulations Soupette!

Apollos got a nice walkoff win yesterday.

Game winning hit for coach's son.

Centerfield
Oct 21 2013 07:58 AM
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The Apollos got a nice visit from celebrity photographer metfairy this weekend. You know you've got talent around when you can take a gangly goofy 8 year old and make him look like a ballplayer.

Thanks metfairy.

Other team = very jealous.

themetfairy
Oct 21 2013 08:21 AM
Re: Our Kids Adventures in Sports

It was my pleasure - the kids are precious :)

And I missed this last week - Congrats Soupette!