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The Great Gatsby (2013)

El Segundo Escupidor Feb 20 2012 06:19 PM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Sep 20 2012 09:24 PM

First movie thread started on location? Starring Leonardo as JG, Spidey Maguire as Nick, Carey Mulligan as Daisy, Amitabh Bachchan as Wolfsheim. Directed by Baz Luhrmann.

TransMonk Feb 20 2012 06:23 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Nice to see (read) you, SS!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 20 2012 09:00 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Back and Spittin' on-set gossip. Nice.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 21 2012 06:45 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Didn't Vincent Chase make this movie a few years ago? Please do not quote any part of my post in reply. Huh? And... oops!

Frayed Knot Feb 21 2012 06:49 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Scheduled for a Xmas 2012 release according to IMDB, I'm actually sort of looking forward to this one for several reasons. - I never saw any of the previous (at least four) versions - the most famous is probably the Redford/Farrow one which oddly isn't available via NetFlix or through my local library system. - the reviews on that one were only so-so to begin with anyway so I'm not all that jazzed to run out and purchase a mediocre and nearly 40 year-old flick just to see it - the only release since that one was a made-for-TV version with even more tepid reviews And, finally, I read the book for the very first time just a few weeks ago. No particular reason really, just though it was something I needed to get around to and somehow had never done all through school and whatnot. Turns out that this F. Scotty guy's a pretty good writer, I'll have to look around to see if he's written anything else recently.

Edgy MD Feb 21 2012 07:29 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Former member Bret Sabermetric was something of a Fitzgerald expert (but disagreed with the way GG was typically taught). I imagine Old Mole, if he wasn't a Fitzexpert already, became one while writing Nick and Jake. So if you need any on-set script doctorin', let us know.

Mets – Willets Point Feb 21 2012 07:43 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Mmmm...Carey Mulligan. I wouldn't blink when looking at her.

TransMonk Feb 21 2012 07:48 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Upon seeing that pic, I immediately thought Romeo + Juliet. I've enjoyed the book each time I've read it and will see this movie.

Edgy MD Feb 21 2012 08:01 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Bazzy leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 21 2012 02:44 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Edgy DC wrote: Bazzy leaves a bad taste in my mouth. This. I'd almost rather see an actual Scorcese version with real-life Adrian F*cking Grenier as our lead.

Mets – Willets Point Feb 21 2012 03:14 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Read the book in Junior High School and then watched the Redford version at school. What I remember most is that all the boys had a crush on the actress who played Jordan.

TransMonk Feb 21 2012 03:25 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

I enjoyed Romeo + Juliet, but I haven't seen it in about a decade. Moulin Rouge!...not so much. I've never seen Strictly Ballroom or Austrailia.

themetfairy Feb 21 2012 03:52 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

I LOVE Strictly Ballroom - a great little film.

El Segundo Escupidor Feb 21 2012 06:12 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 27 2012 01:14 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Bazzy leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Yeah, me too. Although he's toned down the "campness" for this, it seems he can't help himself sometimes; Mets – Willets Point wrote: Mmmm...Carey Mulligan. I wouldn't blink when looking at her. So damn classy. The way she walks. Isla Fisher (Borat's wife) is Myrtle Wilson. She's also a cutey too.

Vic Sage Feb 21 2012 09:05 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

I read GATSBY in HS and it was a life-changing experience. "So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past." Indeed. I saw the Alan Ladd version in college; not great, but pretty good. The Redford version is a complete snooze. Instead of being about the decadent corruption at the heart of the "American Dream", it's about costumes and art direction. Baz Lurhman, unfortunately, is the type of director likely to follow that rabbit down the same hole. On a side note, despite (or maybe because of) its hysterical energy, like an acutely ADHD raccoon convulsing from Ritalin withdrawals, MOULIN ROUGE is one of my favorite movie musicals ever. I can't defend it, i just love it. It's one of the most heartbreakingly romantic movies I've ever seen.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 22 2012 07:45 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Vic Sage wrote: I read GATSBY in HS and it was a life-changing experience. So what fancy schmancy HS did you go to that included Gatsby on the student syllabus? Oh, never mind. I slipped through the cracks. Or maybe Gatsby slipped through my cracks. I read TGG for the first time ever, last Spring, almost a year ago. Not a bad line in the whole damn book, as they say. Until Frayed Knot's post, I would've guessed that I was the last person on this forum to have read TGG for the first time.

Frayed Knot Feb 22 2012 08:25 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Vic Sage wrote: The Redford version is a complete snooze. Instead of being about the decadent corruption at the heart of the "American Dream", it's about costumes and art direction. Excerpts from Roger Ebert's review: The movie is "faithful" to the novel with a vengeance -- to what happens in the novel, that is, and not to the feel, mood, and spirit of it. It would take about the same time to read Fitzgerald's novel as to view this movie -- and that's what I'd recommend.

themetfairy Feb 22 2012 09:05 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

MK, a sophomore in high school, read Gatsby in school this past fall.

Mets – Willets Point Feb 24 2012 07:16 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Edgy DC wrote: Former member Bret Sabermetric was something of a Fitzgerald expert (but disagreed with the way GG was typically taught). Wasn't he the one who discovered that the location of the ash heaps in the novel is today on or near the site where our beloved Mets play? When this is film is ready to be released, a clever advertiser should put up a billboard near Citi Field depicting "The Eyes of Dr. T.J. Eckleberg" and the opening date.

El Segundo Escupidor Feb 27 2012 04:26 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Wasn't he the one who discovered that the location of the ash heaps in the novel is today on or near the site where our beloved Mets play? When this is film is ready to be released, a clever advertiser should put up a billboard near Citi Field depicting "The Eyes of Dr. T.J. Eckleberg" and the opening date. It's funny cos I made the joke to Leonardo that if this was a modern day adaptation, and they could have scripted Gatsby as the owner of the Mets. His reply was "Sounds perfect".

El Segundo Escupidor May 23 2012 03:26 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 26 2012 11:54 PM

Trailer. [youtube:3hih62tf]yqxmhJU4nk4[/youtube:3hih62tf] Not feeling it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2012 05:03 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Yeah, I'm with you. But it could be a function of the trailer edit... and I'll have to reserve judgement, since Lord knows I'm not going to be able to not see this.

Vic Sage May 29 2012 08:34 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

Lurhmann can't help himself, can he? At least it looks energetic and flashy, which ain't a bad atmosphere for the roaring 20s. I still can't buy DiCaprio as a grownup, but Toby Macguire is always a good idea.

Fman99 Jun 15 2012 06:57 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

I graduated high school 21 years ago and I read this book in either 9th or 10th grade. I haven't thought much about it since -- as a 15/16 year old it was over my head, and the Redford movie put me to sleep too.

El Segundo Escupidor Sep 20 2012 06:53 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

This is 2013 now. Saw about ¾ of an early cut. All I’m gonna say is that it's gonna get savaged by critics in the US, because the film takes liberties with the novel in the same way that Jason Voorhees takes liberties with cheerleaders. Anyhow, found bits of script in my drycleaning. I’ll take it down after Vic Sage gives his thumbs down, in case we get a cease & desist and Edgy sends Lenny Dykstra round to my place.

Vic Sage Sep 20 2012 09:25 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2012)

i would opine that posting a few pages of a script that's probably over 120 pages is a "de minimis" and "non-commercial" use, putting it within the fair use exception to copyright law. however, there may be "confidentiality" requirements for employees and others receiving the script that prohibits them from posting any portion of it, as a matter of contract.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 11:36 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

I've been trying to avoid reviews, but I had something pop up on my Twitter feed about Baz Luhrmann-- by way of explaining his choice of the project-- saying he "couldn't resist an ill-fated love story." I'm guessing he's planning on tackling MacBeth next, because of all of the swashbuckling... or All Quiet On The Western Front, for the action scenes? I'm going to see this-- I'm going to have to see this. But, CPF-associate involvement aside... this is going to be really awful, isn't it?

Edgy MD May 09 2013 11:43 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

You know, Baz Luhrman and his fabulous overindulgence (overindulgent fabulousness) have their defenders. But who out there is going out of their way to see Romeo & Juliet again?

Vic Sage May 09 2013 12:47 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

well i watch MOULIN ROUGE at least once a year. so i'm going to see this.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 12:52 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

I'm not saying he's without appeal. I'm just saying, maybe the guy who tends to celebrate glamour/visual excess/aural excess as reflective of-- hell, in most cases, the truest expression of-- emotional interiors may not be the guy for a novel that has... some different ideas about the subject. (Also, really? Once a year?)

Edgy MD May 09 2013 12:57 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

Notice how desperately he avoids the Romeo & Juliet question.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 03:18 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

I'm going on Saturday night after I get home from the game. My wife would rather watch her own foot be cut off, but I actually like going to movies alone. I never have to sit through something someone else wants to see and I don't. I suppose after seeing Gatz and this I'll have witnessed the full spectrum of Gatsby adaptations, unless Michael Bay takes a shot at it someday.

metsmarathon May 10 2013 11:52 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

i'm fairly certain i've never read the book. (there's a thread related to this type of thing, isn't there?) but i'll be seeing the movie tonight.

themetfairy May 10 2013 12:32 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

I remember seeing the Redford version of the movie when I was young, and hating the characters. I'm not sure that I ever read the book, although I suspect that I did. I'll see this version at one point, if for no other reason than to see The Second Spitter on the big screen.

Vic Sage May 10 2013 01:08 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

The Redford version is dreadful. The Alan Ladd version actually isn't bad. I read the book in HS and it has stayed with me like few other books ever have. In fact, I can still see that green light at the end of the dock as I "beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past."

themetfairy May 12 2013 09:14 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

We saw the film this evening. Visually beautiful, but otherwise nothing special. I know that it's supposed to be a commentary on the shallowness of the era, but a good film needs to have something that resonates with the viewer. The Second Spitter's blink-and-you'll-miss-it appearance isn't enough.... If you are going to see this, see it on the big screen. The visuals are the movie's best asset.

metsmarathon May 13 2013 08:10 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

shoot, i must've blinked... anywho, i kindof liked it, although at times it felt a bit too much art-direction-by-thomas-kincade fakey-fakey. i saw it in 3d, and im not sure that it made anything better. imo, the 3d actually made the visual effects look more effect-y and fakey, and not in a good "we're doing it like this for artistic reasons" way but rather "we're not good enough to make this look less fake." the opening snowfall ruined me, i think.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 08:58 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

themetfairy wrote: I know that it's supposed to be a commentary on the shallowness of the era, but a good film needs to have something that resonates with the viewer. When I was a kid, I guess in the wake of the Redford film, "Gatsby" was a theme of many an adult party, and all my friends seemed to have photos of their parents in goofy ice cream suits and flapper dresses. It bothered me in a way I couldn't get until I read the book and saw the film in high school --- these people were dreadful, and to celebrate and stylize (or, for Luhrmann, hyperstylize) their taste, seems to be about invite folks into a dark place where extreme shallowness is elevated.

Ceetar May 13 2013 09:51 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

metsmarathon wrote: shoot, i must've blinked... Wife wants to see this, so we might this week/next weekend. Someone want to tell me where I should make sure I don't blink?

Edgy MD May 13 2013 10:22 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

Man on bench reading paper.

Mets – Willets Point May 13 2013 10:38 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

I have no idea what Spitter looks like so I'd miss him even if my eyes were propped open like Alex DeLarge.

Ashie62 May 16 2013 11:29 PM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

The best version of Gatsby is Andy Kaufman reading the entire book to an auditorium of college kids.

metirish May 17 2013 10:44 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

A scathing review in the Irish Times http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/ ... -1.1394679 It would be most unfair – though satisfying – to suggest that Luhrmann has taken the book into the loo and wiped his bum with it. In fact, the script sticks reasonably close to Fitzgerald’s plot. A ludicrous, tacked-on framing sequence does, however, alert us to the impending war on subtlety.

Frayed Knot May 17 2013 10:54 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

"... alert us to the impending war on subtlety." That's a great line.

Edgy MD May 17 2013 11:17 AM Re: The Great Gatsby (2013)

Personally I think he's too kind to those who abuse the art of adaptation. It's not about faithfulness, it's about respect. The worst adaptations don't care about the source material at all. They borrow authority from their superiors. And don't always return it intact.