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Gwreck wrote:
vent pricing on the parking lot sign. it's got the playoff pricing.
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batmagadanleadoff
Apr 08 2013 02:31 PM
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At least. Isn't it $25 for a regular season game?
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Ceetar
Apr 08 2013 02:33 PM
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At least. Isn't it $25 for a regular season game? |
no, it's $20. can charge it though.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 08 2013 03:54 PM
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Don't forget the tax for wearing puffy director pants.
Oh, that's a tax for not wearing puffy director's pants. |
/Shoots commemorative "All-Straw" Shake Shack Shake through nose
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Ashie62
Apr 08 2013 08:58 PM
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I still believe mass transit is the cheapest best way to Citi.. and you can drink all you want..
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Ceetar
Apr 09 2013 05:45 AM
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I still believe mass transit is the cheapest best way to Citi.. and you can drink all you want.. |
Only if you live along the Subway lines, or the Port Jeff LIRR line, otherwise it seems to take nearly two hours to get home.
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metirish
Apr 09 2013 06:09 AM
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Sure it cheap taking mass transit , I live in Pelham Bay, I can drive to Citi Field in 15-20 minutes....taking the #6 subway would be a long haul....not worth it.
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Benjamin Grimm
Apr 09 2013 08:15 AM
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I went to two games last week. On Monday I parked near Penn Station and then took the LIRR. On Saturday I drove all the way to Queens and parked for free under the Northern Blvd. overpass. Saturday's plan turned out to be quicker and less expensive.
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G-Fafif
Apr 09 2013 09:27 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
I still believe mass transit is the cheapest best way to Citi.. and you can drink all you want.. |
Only if you live along the Subway lines, or the Port Jeff LIRR line, otherwise it seems to take nearly two hours to get home. |
Port Washington, not Port Jefferson.
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Apr 09 2013 09:31 AM
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to get to the game on sunday, would have cost about $45-50 via train for the marathon family, with 2 hours of train rides each way, plus another 25 minutes to the nearest nj train station and any waiting for the trains.
driving, and parking at citi, cost $40 for all the tolls, plus maybe $10-16 for gas. drive time was about an hour and a half each way, plus plenty of flexibility to allow us to visit my sister on the upper west side on the way back home.
for us, driving is the clear winner, though minimm would probably say that he'd rather go on the trains.
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Ceetar
Apr 09 2013 09:32 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
I still believe mass transit is the cheapest best way to Citi.. and you can drink all you want.. |
Only if you live along the Subway lines, or the Port Jeff LIRR line, otherwise it seems to take nearly two hours to get home. |
Port Washington, not Port Jefferson. |
crap, 4.5 years off Long Island and I'm mixing up my presidents and LIRR lines.
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seawolf17
May 07 2013 03:46 PM
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Anyone else sign up for the volunteer thing? I got the e-mail yesterday.
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Ceetar
May 07 2013 03:51 PM
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Anyone else sign up for the volunteer thing? I got the e-mail yesterday. |
my aunt.
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themetfairy
May 07 2013 04:08 PM
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Wow! Not a huge amount of notice, but wow!
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metsmarathon
May 07 2013 07:09 PM
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Screw Jeffy for designing a baseball stadium that's not at all conducive to runni g a 5k throught the damned field.
Though I do think its a bit possible to run in the opposite way they route people for the kids run. Come in through that tunnel, then hang a right and finish next to the dugout. It'd be tight and twisty and less than ideal but totally worth it.
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TransMonk
Jun 12 2013 08:25 AM
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ASG batting practice jerseys are as gaudy as ever...but certainly Metly. If I was in charge, I would have given the NL the blue jerseys and the AL the orange, but what do I know.
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Ceetar
Jun 12 2013 08:36 AM
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Screw Jeffy for designing a baseball stadium that's not at all conducive to runni g a 5k throught the damned field.
Though I do think its a bit possible to run in the opposite way they route people for the kids run. Come in through that tunnel, then hang a right and finish next to the dugout. It'd be tight and twisty and less than ideal but totally worth it. |
I have no idea why they're not doing it. They've done a 5K there before haven't they? They certainly could if they wanted to. I have no idea where the kids run, but the LCF wall definitely opens up flat to the outside.
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themetfairy
Jun 12 2013 10:11 AM
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They're going to have the run in Prospect Park.
Don't ask me why.
They used to have runs that ended at Shea, but not at Citi Field yet (although there was a Spartan Race there in April).
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Ceetar
Jun 12 2013 11:23 AM
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They're going to have the run in Prospect Park.
Don't ask me why.
They used to have runs that ended at Shea, but not at Citi Field yet (although there was a Spartan Race there in April). |
yeah, hell, if they can do the Spartan race..which looked cool..
At the very least you can end at the apple.
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metsmarathon
Jun 12 2013 12:02 PM
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with shea, the center field fences opened up to ground level - you'd just run right in. perfect.
with citi field, theplaying surface is elevated, at least it is relative to the street level on 126th. for the kid's races, you come in through the centerfield gate, go up a flight of stairs, go through a door or two, squeeze past the bullpen, and come onto the field just next to the mo's zone. that's no way to finish a 5k with a few thousand runners. or even a few hundred runners. stairs = no 5k course, as a general rule.
after the kids race, you leave through the tunnels under the stands, going in next to the third base dugout, down a slight ramp, and then come out i think at the seaver gate, next to will call. (as an aside, i still am frustrated that this routing takes you out of hte ballpark after the event, which prevents you from shopping in the clubhouse store after the game. whose genius idea was this!?) it would be feasible, though less than ideal, to use this routing as the finish for a citi field 5k, the issue would be a narrow hallway, a sharp turn, and a short ramp, and another sharp turn (and then finish at the plate) in the last 100 yards or so of a 5k. crowding would be a problem there at the last turn, for sure. i think it could be manageable, if clearly suboptimal.
barring that, a finish by the apple with post-run stuff on the field/ in the stadium would be more than adequate. prospect park? bullshit.
anyone doing the 5k?
i was ][ this close to signing up, but it looks like i might have some competing family things going on that weekend (grumble grumble)
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themetfairy
Jun 12 2013 12:39 PM
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I'm doing the 5K.
I agree that Prospect Park is bullshit, but this is my one chance to do an All Star Game 5K and goddamit I'm going to do it!
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Ceetar
Jun 12 2013 01:28 PM
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those are the 'main' entrances, but what about the construction/groundscrew/delivery entrance in the LCF wall? I thought that was flat.
I was going to do it if it was at Citi Field, but probably won't at Prospect Park.
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Zvon
Jun 12 2013 03:17 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
ASG batting practice jerseys are as gaudy as ever...but certainly Metly. If I was in charge, I would have given the NL the blue jerseys and the AL the orange, but what do I know. |
Gaudy yes, and damn them for incorporating the Mets logo into it cuz now I have to have one. The hats-the big round A&N things in the Met circle....it don't look good on a hat imo but, damn, I have to have that too. I am playing right into their hands.
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G-Fafif
Jun 13 2013 08:07 AM
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Your all-important ASG coaches:
American -- ex-Met Robin Ventura, ex-Met John Gibbons
National -- ex-Met Davey Johnson, future ex-Met Terry Collins
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Edgy MD
Jun 13 2013 08:11 AM
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Ex-Met Clint Hurdle hosed!
Ex Met Ron Gardenhire gardenhosed!
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metirish
Jun 13 2013 08:14 AM
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WTF does the HR Derby captain do?, utter nonsence.
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Edgy MD
Jun 13 2013 08:15 AM
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I'm sure Wright will take the responsibility seriously.
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metirish
Jun 13 2013 08:17 AM
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I'm sure Wright will take the responsibility seriously. |
I bet he will, gosh , what a captain he will be....lots of hugs and high fives....can't wait to hear him up there with Berman and crew.
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G-Fafif
Jun 13 2013 08:50 AM
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David will homer in a home run exhibition, refuse to emote out of respect for BP pitcher.
He used to be more fun. Before all the losing.
[youtube:2hahkuy1]_vtNAa154ZU[/youtube:2hahkuy1]
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metirish
Jun 13 2013 01:36 PM
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This is hilarious......someone in the Mets PR department reached out to Cougar Life in an attempt to get them to push a #VoteWright campaign , David had beat out Hamels and Kemp in a Cougar Life survey for hottest cub
http://deadspin.com/mets-approached-cou ... -512966052
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Zvon
Jun 16 2013 08:18 PM
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Get voting folks! I was going to vote a bunch just now and they cut me off with a limit. Im kinda pissed about that. I voted a shit load of times in one visit to the webpage last week. Well, I added 10 more votes. Takes a minute. Come on, Wright deserves to be the #1 third baseman!
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Zvon
Jun 23 2013 05:38 PM
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LISTEN UP my friends.
Wrights app. 150,000 votes behind Sandoval. We are really going to have to go out of our way to make this happen. And anyone here that doesn't, shame on you. And if all Met fans can't get enough votes together to make Wright the starter, then shame on us all.
It's really up to us.
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
[url]http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2013/index.jsp
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themetfairy
Jun 23 2013 05:50 PM
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Wright is ahead of Sandoval right now. But don't stop voting - we want to keep it this way!
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Benjamin Grimm
Jun 23 2013 05:56 PM
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Wait... what? Wright gained 150,000 votes in twelve minutes? Wow!
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Benjamin Grimm
Jun 23 2013 06:16 PM
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Nice going, all you cougars out there!
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themetfairy
Jun 23 2013 06:25 PM
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I do my best.
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Zvon
Jun 23 2013 07:21 PM
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Wright is ahead of Sandoval right now. But don't stop voting - we want to keep it this way! |
Kool beans. Yea, the info I had was from a few days ago. He so deserves it. We pull this off and I will be so proud that I'm a Met fan.
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Ceetar
Jun 26 2013 02:16 PM
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Speaking of which, does anyone want a ticket strip to the games? I originally only found two separately, but then found two together so bought those, so looking to offload my two unused strips (They're $650) I've got one up on Stubhub, but fees are even more ridiculous on prices this high so for me to get my money back is basically sending Stubhub's entire family to college. So reselling at face via word of mouth seems the way to go.
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batmagadanleadoff
Jun 27 2013 10:26 AM
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Citi Field All Star Menu unveiled!
By Rob Castellano on Jun 27 2013, 12:00p ? @_robcast
The Mets held a media event on Wednesday to unveil their specially-crafted All Star game menu...and I was lucky
enough to be in attendance.
If you haven’t noticed, the Mets are pretty excited about hosting this year’s All Star Game. From patches on their uniforms, to commemorative bobblehead giveaways, to more than a couple of commercials on SNY, they’re pretty much putting on the full-court press. So naturally as part of their all-encompassing build-up to July’s festivities, the Mets have revamped the culinary experience at Citi Field as well.
To be precise, it’s not as much a revamp as it is a shot in the arm for an already excellent example of ballpark fare. In short, Aramark and the executive chef at the stadium, Robert Flowers, have worked to supplement the existing options with dozens more interesting offerings. Beyond just creating a number of new dishes/sandwiches/snacks, they’ve also reached out to several restaurants and caterers from all five boroughs to help create a menu in the image of New York City.
As you can probably tell, I was genuinely impressed with their efforts. First and foremost, the sheer volume of different options that they’re going to be churning out is astounding. Including the items on their regular menu, there will be somewhere around 50 different options for diners at the ballpark that day.
If big numbers don’t impress you, the quality most definitely will. Most of us know from past endeavors that from day one Citi Field has raised the bar when it comes to eating out at the ballgame. In that respect, they’ve outdone themselves almost without exception.
My strategy going into each of these culinary events has been and will always be to try everything – in order to best inform you, the reader, of course. However, with the sheer number of options, I must say that I didn’t quite hit that lofty goal (though, let's just say I had more than my fair share). Instead, I’ve included photo-documentation of nearly everything on display at yesterday’s event while relaying a handful of my favorites -- in no particular order -- from the gastrointestinal carnage that ensued.
The All-Star Meatball Hero
This limited edition sandwich -- yes, it's a limited edition sandwich -- was the star of the show as the recipe comes from the family of the executive chef of Citi Field -- a recipe which purportedly dates back three hundred years. The meatballs themselves are a blend of ground beef, pork, and veal, simmered in red sauce for three hours. They’re served with buffalo mozzarella and fresh basil on a crisp sesame roll. Nothing too tricky here, just a damn, damn good meatball sandwich. Although I must say, I’ve never been one to call tomato sauce ‘gravy’ – I suppose I’m just not Italian enough. This offering will be available at the Section 138 concessions outlet.
Mama's of Corona Italian Special Hero
An oldie, but a goodie. Mama’s of Corona is a classic option, long before Mets fans knew the words Blue Smoke. Mama’s was one of the few specialty purveyors back in the non-descript days of Shea, and they’re still going strong. The Italian Special Hero features pepper ham, salami, sliced fresh mozzarella, topped with mushrooms and peppers on a fresh sesame, roll. The amount of options may be growing but this sandwich always seems to find itself at the top of my list. This offering will be available at the Section 104 concessions outlet.
Trio Mac & Cheeses
The trio was made up of a Pancetta-Mac, Lobster-Mac, and a Three-Cheese option. My only qualm was that the extreme creaminess factor, especially with the three-cheese, might not necessarily lend itself to a hot, summer day in the ballpark. That being said, this is more of a formal, sit-down option anyway – as opposed to eating it in the comfort of your seat – and in that regard it’s spectacular. This offering will be available in the Citi Field suites.
Catch of the Day Lobster Roll
The Catch of the Day Lobster Roll is notorious for its lofty price – usually around $14 for a single roll. However, if you can stomach the price tag, the Lobster Roll itself is a thing of beauty. Fresh, poached Maine lobster salad on a split served on a toasted, split-top bun, this is pretty much the epitome of a classic, delicious New England lobster roll. This offering will be available at the Section 102 concessions outlet.
Major League Grilled Cheese
With the culinary options at Citi Field getting more and more extravagant, I found myself more impressed by some of the simpler options – and this grilled cheese sandwich was a great example of a modest idea executed to perfection. It featured a trio of Swiss, Gouda, and Cheddar cheese, topped with a layer of crispy bacon on buttered white toast. The cheese-to-bread ratio was spot on, the bacon had just the right amount of crunch, and despite the lack of some of the bells and whistles of other offerings, one of the best sandwiches I ate all day. This offering will be available in the Caesars Club.
Honorable Mention goes to the Raspberry Cheesecake Doughnuts (Acela Club), Daruma’s Sashimi (Section 104), Blue Smoke's Beef Brisket Slider (Section 139, and if you can stand the wait of course, Shake Shack's Shackburger (Section 139).
For the rest of the myriad options available to fans at this year's All Star festivities, browse through the gallery below! |
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themetfairy
Jun 27 2013 10:34 AM
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I was lucky enough to be there. Excellent recap, and excellent pictures under the circumstances (the backlighting at the Caesar's Club makes photography there challenging - I'm only going to have a couple of decent pictures when I finally get through the editing process).
It was like the best bar mitzvah reception ever - fantastic food everywhere and no service required! Seriously - the variety and quality of the food was spectacular. One can't normally eat like that though, simply because of the price tag. But yesterday one could sample freely, and the choices were incredible.
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TransMonk
Jun 27 2013 11:09 AM
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That ALL looks great!
Yum.
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themetfairy
Jun 27 2013 05:52 PM
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Aside from the food orgy, yesterday also featured an appearance by the long absent Mrs. Met -
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Ceetar
Jun 27 2013 08:31 PM
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You guys see SteveJRogers?
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Fman99
Jun 27 2013 08:58 PM
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Can you all give me 15 minutes alone, please? Thanks.
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themetfairy
Jun 27 2013 09:16 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
You guys see SteveJRogers? |
Yes - he sends his regards.
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Zvon
Jun 27 2013 09:29 PM
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Lady Met. She never married. Its a fact! I researched this for seconds! I see the name tag says Mrs. Met, and someone should inform the front office that they should make themselves more familiar with the teams actual history.
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Edgy MD
Jun 27 2013 09:38 PM
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I'm guessing that the Mrs. Met of today and the Lady Met of yore are either different lasses or the same lass in a different marital state. If they never married, they are pretty shameless about the family.
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Zvon
Jun 27 2013 10:17 PM
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Nice. There are reportedly some drawn ones from the Lady Met days where she had kids, including one in her arms. Maybe wiki was referring to that pic and not an old illustration. I wish I had more than a few seconds to research this ;)
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 27 2013 10:19 PM
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I'm guessing she likes to call herself "Mrs. Met," but Mrs. Met doesn't like it so much.
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HahnSolo
Jul 01 2013 09:39 AM
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I just learned that I have the opportunity to grab two tickets to Fan Fest for Saturday the 13th from a neighbor. I was going to bring my son, but I had some questions for veterans of this:
- I probably can't get down there till about 3PM; it closes at 8. Is that enough time to experience a lot of it (I understand that Saturday is usually the most crowded)?
- I'm getting them for $27/person. Taking that into account, plus parking or transportation, plus food, I'm looking at dropping a decent chunk of change. So my question is...once I'm in, are there other expenses I am going to run into? Do activities or autographs or photos cost additional?
I gather it is a great event, I just worry that a) I'll be spending more than I really should on this, and b) that I won't really have enough time to enjoy it. Any suggestions/advice are greatly appreciated.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 01 2013 09:42 AM
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I was thinking of taking Lunchpail there on Saturday too.
It's gonna be expensive for what you get but unless you buy food I think that's all the extra cost there is. Five hours better be enough!
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HahnSolo
Jul 01 2013 09:44 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I was thinking of taking Lunchpail there on Saturday too.
It's gonna be expensive for what you get but unless you buy food I think that's all the extra cost there is. Five hours better be enough! |
I would think it would be enough, but Javits is huge and if you get on one long autograph line...
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Mets – Willets Point
Jul 01 2013 09:48 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm guessing that the Mrs. Met of today and the Lady Met of yore are either different lasses or the same lass in a different marital state. If they never married, they are pretty shameless about the family.
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Sleeping Baby Met is adorable! Although, I hope that's a doll and there's not a child in there.
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themetfairy
Jul 01 2013 10:37 AM
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When I took MK to FanFest in 2008 he tired of the place after a few hours (funny story - on our way to the Empire State Building afterwards, we discovered that Darryl Strawberry was signing autographs in the Footlocker on 34th. That made up for us not being able to get Gary Carter's autograph at FanFest because I didn't realize that we needed tickets for that ahead of time). Five hours should be more than enough time, I think.
The food at Javits is a ripoff - eat before you go, and go somewhere like Foley's on 33rd between 5th and 6th afterwards.
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Ceetar
Jul 01 2013 10:49 AM
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how about 25 minutes during lunch on a Monday, enough time to see it all?
(Somehow all my tickets are for Monday-Tuesday. lame. )
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batmagadanleadoff
Jul 01 2013 11:16 AM
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What exactly is Fanfest? I'm not into autographs. What is there to do and see? And buy, besides food and the same stuff I could probably buy at Citi Field? What might I see that I haven't already seen?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 01 2013 11:50 AM
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There are some exhibits & artwork and stuff that might interest you, but as I recall, it's mostly about the kids. Batting cages, running games, pitch-speed, etc
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Swan Swan H
Jul 01 2013 11:52 AM
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We're going in early Saturday, expecting to stay 3-4 hours. Gotta get out to the Tilles Center for Lyle Lovett and his Acoustic Band that night .
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metirish
Jul 01 2013 11:54 AM
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Good stuff, you'll love it.....
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HahnSolo
Jul 01 2013 02:14 PM
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metirish wrote:
Good stuff, you'll love it..... |
Fanfest, or Lyle Lovett?
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Swan Swan H
Jul 02 2013 11:16 AM
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Wright's lead over the Kung Fu Pantload has increased from 120,000 in the last count to 840,000 in the latest.
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themetfairy
Jul 02 2013 12:06 PM
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You're welcome!
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Zvon
Jul 06 2013 04:27 PM
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I'm reading Harvey gets the start, but is this official?
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Swan Swan H
Jul 06 2013 04:42 PM
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Wright officially named as a starter, pitchers coming up soon.
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SteveJRogers
Jul 06 2013 04:52 PM
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Zvon wrote:
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I doubt it, doesn't that get announced as official during the weekend?
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Zvon
Jul 06 2013 04:56 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
Zvon wrote:
I'm reading Harvey gets the start, but is this official? |
I doubt it, doesn't that get announced as official during the weekend? |
Don't know. But Wright got third. Awesome. The article I was reading was speculation dress up like facts. Harvey as SP would make it perfect, and make this season something to remember, if only for that.
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Ashie62
Jul 06 2013 05:11 PM
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Harvey was picked
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Ashie62
Jul 06 2013 05:16 PM
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COMPLETE ALL STAR ROSTERS
[url]http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22663218/2013-mlb-all-star-game-live-updates-as-rosters-are-revealed
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Zvon
Jul 06 2013 05:20 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Harvey was picked |
Nice.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 06 2013 05:26 PM
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The only real question about Harvey is whether or not he starts that final Sunday prior to the ASG. Pitchers who pitch that day are supposed to be ineligible so as to not clog up the roster only to declare themselves 'unavailable'.
That's why Bochy has said that he'll start Harvey as long as the Mets cooperate.
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bmfc1
Jul 06 2013 05:34 PM
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Terry can pitch him next Saturday and keep him on 4-day rest as Thursday is an off-day.
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Farmer Ted
Jul 06 2013 07:00 PM
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Glad to see Carlos starting in the OF for the ASG.
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metsguyinmichigan
Jul 06 2013 07:24 PM
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Just two MFYs? With the game in New York? Verducci's head will explode.
What are the odds that at least one of these Yankee hacks demands that Jeter be named to the team as an honorary captain or something "for the good of baseball."
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SteveJRogers
Jul 06 2013 07:29 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Just two MFYs? With the game in New York? Verducci's head will explode.
What are the odds that at least one of these Yankee hacks demands that Jeter be named to the team as an honorary captain or something "for the good of baseball." |
Don't jinx it, Robertson is one of the AL Final Player candidates.
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SteveJRogers
Jul 06 2013 07:31 PM
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Not to mention there are always players who are injured or backing out...
Shouldn't have said anything...any MFYers selected through the back door methods are ON YOUR HEAD!
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Frayed Knot
Jul 06 2013 09:11 PM
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Terry can pitch [Harvey] next Saturday and keep him on 4-day rest as Thursday is an off-day. |
That sounds like what they're going to do.
If so I'd say it's almost certain that he starts the ASG
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Jul 07 2013 07:09 AM
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Which means that Harvey's next start is on FOX.
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Jul 07 2013 07:11 AM
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Ken Levine has this All-Star Game business all figured out.
Major League Baseball just doesn’t get it. They never have. This is why Les Moonves needs to be the commissioner. MLB spends so much time arguing minutia that they miss the big picture. The latest raging controversy-over-nothing is this: Should Yasiel Puig play in the All-Star Game later this month?
Yes, I know. Most of you are saying who’s Yasiel Puig? And how do you even pronounce his name? (It’s “Pweeg”) You will be among the majority of people not watching the All-Star Game, despite it’s claim that “that this time it means something.”
So who is Yasiel Puig? He’s a young Cuban defector who joined the Los Angeles Dodgers in early June and turned in one the greatest single months any player has done over the last 140 years. That’s all. Record-breaking number of hits, monster home runs, spectacular catches, unbelievable throws, lightening speed. He has almost single-handedly turned the Dodgers’ fortunes around. The only thing he hasn’t done is sung the national anthem.
But many managers, and coaches, and executives don’t feel he should be in the All-Star Game because he’s only been on the scene for a month of the three-month season. His inclusion would tarnish the “integrity” of what it means to be an All-Star.
Here’s the point they’re all missing:
THIS IS JUST A FRIGGIN’ TELEVISION SHOW.
Nothing more. It's a spectacle. The Ice Capades with cleats. Who does the audience want to see? That's the ONLY question. Period. End of discussion. Statistics are meaningless. Time-of-service is meaningless.
The game is meaningless!
Hollywood understands this. When actors break out in movies or series they become All-Stars overnight. You think ABC told the producers of HAPPY DAYS to not use the Fonz so much because he’s taking too much screen time away from star Ronny Howard? You think Top 40 radio stations refused to play Justin Bieber because he was only 16 and hadn’t paid his dues? Or Neil Patrick Harris was forbidden from hosting the Tony Awards because he wasn’t on Broadway last season?
GET REAL.
My partner and I wrote a pilot for Fox once and we got the following note: "Add a hot babe. Make her a series regular." I asked: “To do what?” And they said, “We don’t care.” You gotta applaud their honesty. They knew why people watched Fox. Had we said, "But a hot babe will just destroy the integrity of our concept" they'd have laughed at us.
For many baseball fans, Yasiel Puig is the ONLY reason they’d want to watch the All-Star Game. You think they’re tuning in to hear Tim McCarver prattle on incessantly about nothing? Or to see the big rivalry between the American and National League? Now that there’s so much interleague play the leagues have been blurred to the point where there no longer is any real novelty of seeing the AL and NL compete.
In a desperate attempt to fool the fans into thinking the game actually means something (after it ended one year in a tie when they embarrassingly ran out of players), the winning league gets home field advantage in the World Series. No one gives a shit. Not even the players. Do you think the buried-in-last-place Houston Astros care if the American League gets home field advantage? Half of the team doesn’t even know they’re now in the American League.
Fans get to vote for the players, but they get to stuff the ballot boxes. Karl Rove would like to replace the Electoral College with this system. You can vote up to 35 times on line or as many actual ballots as you want. As a result, guys with .200 averages have made All-Star squads. But again, so what? The fans vote for the players they want to see. Maybe one out of 100,000 checks the Sabermetrics before making his selections.
One year Steve Garvey of the Dodgers took home reams of ballots and he and his (then) wife filled in enough write-in votes to actually get him selected. And then he wound up winning the MVP award of that year’s All-Star Game.
So who are we kidding with the integrity of the Mid-Summer Classic?
It’s a fun television show. For hardcore baseball fans like me I wouldn’t miss it for the world. But I don’t give a rat’s ass who wins. I want a 9-8 game. I want the home run derby to be part of the game itself. I want a manager to be ejected for arguing. I want to see incompetent umpire Angel Hernandez call a ball foul that sails over the centerfield wall.
Yasiel Puig will be selected to the All-Star squad. How come? Because the fans get to vote one final reserve and he’s on the ballot. He’s up against Ian Desmond, Freddie Freeman, Adrian Gonzalez and Hunter Pence. Who do you think Fox would prefer – Yasiel Puig or Ian Desmond?
Now, in the American League, these are the five household names vying for the last spot: Steve Delabar, David Robertson, Koji Uehara, Tanner Scheppers, and Joaquin Benoit. Do you know who any of these potential All-Stars are? (I do and vote for Steve Delebar.)
Oh, and by the way, this is not the first time Major League Baseball has wrestled with this dilemma over whether a rookie who broke in mid-season should qualify for the All-Star squad. It happened JUST LAST YEAR. And Bryce Harper did make the team. So what are we arguing about?
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Jul 07 2013 08:44 AM
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| It’s a fun television show. For hardcore baseball fans like me I wouldn’t miss it for the world. But I don’t give a rat’s ass who wins. I want a 9-8 game. I want the home run derby to be part of the game itself. I want a manager to be ejected for arguing. I want to see incompetent umpire Angel Hernandez call a ball foul that sails over the centerfield wall. |
Classic!
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Jul 07 2013 04:15 PM
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| For many baseball fans, Yasiel Puig is the ONLY reason they’d want to watch the All-Star Game. |
I disagree with this. Matt Harvey, Bryce Harper, and a bunch of other guys might disagree with this.
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Jul 07 2013 04:47 PM
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Angel Hernandez will be one of the umpires?
Good joke.
Good knowledge of the game (actually, you only have had to watch him umpire one game to know his incompetence).
But scary shit nevertheless.
Later
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themetfairy
Jul 07 2013 04:50 PM
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If you want to check out the All Star Game apples, check out Studious Metsimus' guide.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 07 2013 05:35 PM
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Commentators, citing recent WS results as PROOF that home field advantage matters (and therefore shouldn't be connected to the ASG) while ignoring the fact that none of the recent series have gone seven games for the HF edge to even matter make themselves sound really stupid.
Fine, you're against linking the ASG to the WS, welcome to the club. But stop pretending that stats from 4-game sweeps somehow back up your point.
It's gotten to the point where the only reason some broadcasters even bring up the ASG is so that they can knock the whole HF-advantage angle.
It's a gimmick idiots designed to boost TV ratings, get over it.
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Jul 07 2013 06:18 PM
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If the game really "mattered", then it must be moved to Wednesday so that all pitchers can be used. Now, someone that started a game on Sunday can't pitch. If the ASG is so important, then the schedule should be altered to ensure that everyone can participate. Until then, yes, it's just a gimmick devised by FOX and MLB to help Selig save face after the tie game.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 07 2013 07:30 PM
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Best record in MLB since last year's All-Star Game? ... that's right, the Oakland A's
Number of Oakland ASG reps? One, and it's 67 year old Bartolo Freakin' Colon of all people!
And somehow Oakland closer Grant Balfour [22 saves, 1.82 ERA] doesn't even rate a spot on an all-reliever final AL showdown while the likes of David Robertson [0 saves; 2.29] does.
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Jul 07 2013 07:54 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
If the game really "mattered", then it must be moved to Wednesday so that all pitchers can be used. Now, someone that started a game on Sunday can't pitch. If the ASG is so important, then the schedule should be altered to ensure that everyone can participate. Until then, yes, it's just a gimmick devised by FOX and MLB to help Selig save face after the tie game. |
I don't care that they tied. You know what? I love it. Got all the All-Stars into the game. everyone played. Isn't that sorta the point?
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To you and me, yes. Play 'em all. (It's not like every fan is lucky enough to root for a team which has all of their All-Stars in the starting lineup.) Isn't that why each team is represented? But Selig was looking for a gimmick after the being criticized for the tie.
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Edgy MD
Jul 08 2013 05:41 AM
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| Yasel PuigRecord-breaking number of hits, |
I think Wright has more hits than him over that period.
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Jul 08 2013 08:45 AM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
| For many baseball fans, Yasiel Puig is the ONLY reason they’d want to watch the All-Star Game. |
I disagree with this. Matt Harvey, Bryce Harper, and a bunch of other guys might disagree with this. |
He's not saying that Yasiel Puig is the only reason that anyone would watch the game. He's saying that there are many people who are only interested in Yasiel Puig, people who aren't interested in Bryce Harper or Matt Harvey. And that may very well be true.
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Jul 08 2013 10:34 AM
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Part of what has happened is that ESPN--in their never-ending search for the next **STAR** to obsess over--has adopted Puig as their fun go-to guy for hi-lights and updates during what for them is the interminable down period* between the end of the NBA and the beginning for NFL training camps where they can go back to constant updates on the likes Tebow, Brady, Manning^2, and RGIII.
So while I don't know who Ken Levine is, it sounds like he's running with the idea that if the media only cares about Yasiel Puig then that must reflect how most of the country feels as well.
* I even heard one talking head declare that the conclusion of the NBA playoffs marked the end of this year's sports calendar, until the next season starts up again in September. IOW, there's nothing going on right now that any REAL sports fan cares about.
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Jul 08 2013 10:43 AM
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Maybe, FK. But would you argue that Puig isn't the most intriguing/entertaining choice of those offered... even for people who actually follow the game?
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Jul 08 2013 11:03 AM
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Dan Uggla's all like "oh, Freddie Freeman deserves to be there" on Twitter. Shut up, Dan Uggla. Nobody wants to see Freddie Stupid Freeman.
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Edgy MD
Jul 08 2013 11:06 AM
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Maybe, FK. But would you argue that Puig isn't the most intriguing/entertaining choice of those offered... even for people who actually follow the game? |
Well, for some it may be Harvey. For still others, Harper is still the man, and for Yankee fans, it's about Rivera.
| So who is Yasiel Puig? He’s a young Cuban defector who joined the Los Angeles Dodgers in early June and turned in one the greatest single months any player has done over the last 140 years. That’s all. Record-breaking number of hits, monster home runs, spectacular catches, unbelievable throws, lightening speed. He has almost single-handedly turned the Dodgers’ fortunes around. The only thing he hasn’t done is sung the national anthem |
And please note. He writes from the perspective that he's introducing Puig to his audience, taking the perspective that baseball is an exotic interest outside the purview of the mainstream sports fan, who need hardworking journalists like him to investigate this diversion called "base-ball" to inform them if there's anything worth taking note of, and then to blame the sports governors for their inability to engage fans with star-sational presentations of their sport.
Listen, Puig is a sensation. There's a sensation like him happens every year --- Harvey, Harper, Trout, Dickey, Strasburg, Bruce, Votto, Hamilton, Willis, Pedro. And it indeed makes the game fun. But there's a reason star-driven hyperbole doesn't work. When Michael Jordan was at the height of his power, he was averaging 35 points a night. That's a typical night. On a good night, he scored 45, and on a bad one, 25. He'd take a lot of shots, but even then, once or twice a night, he'd do something spectacular.
A typical night for Barry Bonds at the height of his ability was a 1-3 evening with a double and a walk. You couldn't promise a nightly spectacle because baseball can't deliver on it. Not regularly enough It's a humbling game where the good and poor players hover closer to the mean. And if all you understand about the game is the WOW factor, then you are going to tune in, watch Puig for a few innings, and unless you're lucky enough to catch one of the two nights per week where he really shines, you're likely to shrug and switch back to MMA.
And Puig, as triumphant as he stands now, will soon stop being the story, and fall back into being a a part (though still perhaps a remarkable part) of the tapestry like all of those sensations above. Baseball marketers instead sell the greater game. The best footabll teams win 90% of the time. The best basketball teams win 80% of the time. A baseball team that wins even 70% of the time comes along maybe once every 50 years. Fans understand and accept this.
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Jul 08 2013 11:08 AM
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Dan Uggla's all like "oh, Freddie Freeman deserves to be there" on Twitter. Shut up, Dan Uggla. Nobody wants to see Freddie Stupid Freeman.
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i'd rather see Freddie Fender... before the next teardrop falls.
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Jul 08 2013 11:10 AM
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Vic Sage wrote:
Dan Uggla's all like "oh, Freddie Freeman deserves to be there" on Twitter. Shut up, Dan Uggla. Nobody wants to see Freddie Stupid Freeman.
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lol
seriously , I conflate Freeman with Heyward, I am always surprised to see he is white.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 08 2013 11:22 AM
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Maybe, FK. But would you argue that Puig isn't the most intriguing/entertaining choice of those offered... even for people who actually follow the game? |
Hey, I have no problem with him being on this 'Final Choice' ballot and I'm fine if he gets in as a result (and would be shocked if he didn't).
I'm just saying that the writer of that piece is a bit over-stating Puig's importance to baseball as a whole, quite possibly because he's listening to his media brethren many of whom think Puig is the only interesting thing about baseball right now.
| "Puig ... who joined the Los Angeles Dodgers in early June and turned in one the greatest single months any player has done over the last 140 years." |
No, he's had one of the greatest debut months over the last 100+ years. A very nice accomplishment indeed and a great month even for someone NOT new to the league, but overall it's a very different category than saying it's one of the great months of any kind ever.
It's that kind of fact-twisting (intentional or otherwise) and lack of perspective that makes for a poor soap-box on which to lecture his audience on what is or isn't the best thing for baseball.
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Jul 08 2013 01:10 PM
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| Ken Levine is an Emmy winning writer/director/producer/major league baseball announcer. In a career that has spanned over 30 years Ken has worked on MASH, CHEERS, FRASIER, THE SIMPSONS, WINGS, EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND, BECKER, DHARMA & GREG, and has co-created his own series including ALMOST PERFECT starring Nancy Travis. He and his partner wrote the feature VOLUNTEERS. Ken has also been the radio/TV play-by-play voice of the Baltimore Orioles, Seattle Mariners, San Diego Padres and has hosted Dodger Talk on the Dodger Radio Network. |
Levine brings a West Coast bias to his Puigcentric view of the forthcoming festivities. I'd rather see Puig or Freeman or Pence than any American League setup guy. Then again, last year all I wanted to see was Dickey and Wright start. With David at third and Matt most likely on the mound, they can do anything they like with the rest of the game. Baseball can be beautifully provincial that way.
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Jul 10 2013 04:37 AM
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Terrific choice to throw out first pitch at ASG, continuing to recover from effects of Lyme Disease, reports Bill Madden.
It has been a slow but steady road back — Seaver still takes a bunch of pills, most of them vitamins, every day, has changed his diet and no longer drinks his beloved wine, not even the highly rated Cabernet he produces in his GTS (for George Thomas Seaver) Vineyard — but Seaver, who was grateful a few months ago for feeling good for two to three straight days, now has mostly good days. The other day, when I caught up with him by phone in his vineyard atop Diamond Mountain in Calistoga, was definitely one of them.
“Ohhhh, how could you ask me that?” he shrieked in response to my question about whether he was feeling any pressure about bouncing that first pitch at the All-Star Game. “That was like a knife to my heart! Pressure, hah! My winemaker and I have been throwing back and forth in the vineyard every day. Thirty-five minutes. He’s a lefthander and, God, does he throw hard. You have no idea the bodily pain he’s inflicted on me.”
OK, so the arm’s gradually rounding into form. What about the pressure of being the grand marshal in the All-Star parade?
“That’s no pressure,” Seaver said with a laugh. “Where’s the pressure of riding in an old 1945 Ford with fans on the sidewalk booing you?” |
As for his favorite All-Star memory...
| “I remember walking into the National League clubhouse and looking around and seeing Aaron, Mays, Banks, Gibson, Clemente and thinking ‘What am I doing here?"’ Seaver said. “Then Lou Brock broke my thoughts by walking up to me and saying: ‘Hey kid, mind fetching me a Coke?’ I looked at him, stunned at first. Then, after realizing he wasn’t kidding, I had to tell him I was really a player, not the clubhouse kid. To this day, I’ve never let Lou forget that and every time I see him at Cooperstown or wherever, I’ll yell at him to fetch me a Coke!” |
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Jul 10 2013 10:59 AM
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Seaver could put that story to a dignified rest by bringing Brock a Coke on the field before the game. Maybe Brock will be his catcher.
how awesome to have somebody to play catch with every day. I'm glad to hear he's still somewhat engaged in the game. I've gotten the notion that if he wasn't on the Mets payroll, he'd be completely detached from it.
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Jul 10 2013 11:02 AM
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Too bad Johnny Callison is no longer alive; that would have been a good get for the ASG return to Queens.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 10 2013 11:06 AM
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That Madden article made my teeth rot. Very chummy with his HOF pal.
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themetfairy
Jul 10 2013 11:20 AM
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I am assuming that there will be heightened security for the ASG.
Has anyone seen a list of what we're allowed to bring into the stadium? I'd hate to make the trip via train only to discover that my camera doesn't meet specifications or my bag is too big or something along those lines.
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Jul 10 2013 12:40 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
I am assuming that there will be heightened security for the ASG.
Has anyone seen a list of what we're allowed to bring into the stadium? I'd hate to make the trip via train only to discover that my camera doesn't meet specifications or my bag is too big or something along those lines. |
I know I've seen a list. I'll check and see if it's with the ticket envelope when I get home.
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Jul 10 2013 01:08 PM
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Thanks Swan. You got me thinking to check the back of my ticket. In print small enough to require my aged eyes to use both reading glasses and a magnifying glass there's a list of prohibited items, including the frustrating legalese term, "Included but not limited to." But no mention of cameras, which is a good thing. For the most part it seemed like the normal list of things we're not allowed to bring (hard sided coolers, fireworks, etc.).
If you or anyone notices anything different, PLMK. Thanks!
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Swan Swan H
Jul 10 2013 01:20 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
Thanks Swan. You got me thinking to check the back of my ticket. In print small enough to require my aged eyes to use both reading glasses and a magnifying glass there's a list of prohibited items, including the frustrating legalese term, "Included but not limited to." But no mention of cameras, which is a good thing. For the most part it seemed like the normal list of things we're not allowed to bring (hard sided coolers, fireworks, etc.).
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Thanks for the update. It's always frustrating to find you can't bring items that you brought into the park, especially since we plan on taking the train Monday and Tuesday (at least) and can't run them back into the car.
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themetfairy
Jul 10 2013 01:27 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
themetfairy wrote:
Thanks Swan. You got me thinking to check the back of my ticket. In print small enough to require my aged eyes to use both reading glasses and a magnifying glass there's a list of prohibited items, including the frustrating legalese term, "Included but not limited to." But no mention of cameras, which is a good thing. For the most part it seemed like the normal list of things we're not allowed to bring (hard sided coolers, fireworks, etc.).
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Thanks for the update. It's always frustrating to find you can't bring items that you brought into the park, especially since we plan on taking the train Monday and Tuesday (at least) and can't run them back into the car. |
Exactly!
I just got off the phone with MLB.com. They knew nothing and suggested I call the Mets. At this point I figure that I'll just ask at FanFest on Friday.
But seriously, in the wake of Boston and with heightened security being prevalent these days, shouldn't this information be readily available? Or have they forgotten that they need to develop a policy and won't come up with one until Tuesday afternoon?
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Jul 11 2013 07:29 AM
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I looked through our materials, and the back of the ticket, as you said, is all I saw. I'm going to guess that's the rule, but if I hear or see anything else I'll put it out here.
There will be extra LIRR trains running for the whole weekend. Parts of the parking lot will be set up with other events, so taking the train is a good option for us, as we can walk to the station in our town. Here is the schedule for all three days at Citi Field.
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metirish
Jul 11 2013 07:33 AM
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Anyone planning on attending FanFest at the Javits Center?
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themetfairy
Jul 11 2013 07:36 AM
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Thanks Swan. I'm guessing that they'll formulate their security policy about 3:00 on Tuesday.
Irish - D-Dad and I will be at FanFest on Friday afternoon.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 11 2013 07:38 AM
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Yes, wanna go with the Pail. But figured on buying tix at door, either Sat am or Sunday am.
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Jul 11 2013 07:44 AM
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I think I'm already going to lose money on the extra strip I bought, so not gonna worry about trying to spend an extra day at the Fanfest myself. Going to try to sneak over on Monday during lunch, but it's all the way cross town so that's like 45 minutes..
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 11 2013 07:48 AM
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Doing a Family Hooky Day on Monday.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 11 2013 08:09 AM
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My goal btw is to find a Kirk Nieuwenhuis t-shirt in a kid size. Lunchpail owns a HARVEY 33 shirt already but I felt dirty getting it for him.
He will also accept GEE 35.
Preferably in orange.
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Jul 11 2013 09:15 AM
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I am going late on Saturday, probly 4-ish. WIll probably stay till closing, and hope to not spend too much on memorabilia. Can't go any earlier due to little Solo's baseball commitments.
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Ceetar
Jul 11 2013 09:32 AM
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The email they just sent includes the regular prohibitions:
Fans are encouraged to arrive early for ballpark events. All Citi Field Gates will open at Noon EST Sunday, 5:15 p.m. ET Monday and 4:30 p.m. ET Tuesday.
In addition, the Mets are asking fans to be advised that prohibited items at Citi Field include, but are not limited to items larger than 16"x16"x8", hard-sided coolers, all metal cans (including sunscreen aerosol cans), glass bottles, open containers; commercial grade audio, video and photographic equipment; alcoholic beverages; illegal substances; laser pointers; noisemaking devices; fireworks, animals (except for assistive purposes); weapons and any items of similar nature.. Citi Field retains the right to determine what items are deemed appropriate for entry. Guests may bring in one, soft, plastic, factory-sealed water bottles of 20 ounces or less, Guests may also bring in one sealed, soft -sided child's juice box. Note: Water bottles and juice boxes may not be frozen. |
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bmfc1
Jul 11 2013 10:17 AM
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No Angel Hernandez?
#ASG umps: John Hirschbeck (HP), Wally Bell (1B), Larry Vanover (2B), Paul Emmel (3B), Rob Drake (LF), Chad Fairchild (RF).
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themetfairy
Jul 11 2013 11:37 AM
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That's the same as the back of the ticket. Thanks Ceetar.
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Ceetar
Jul 11 2013 11:40 AM
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Security is ridiculously inept, everywhere. If someone balks, I suggest walking away and trying a different gate (unless you're going so early that it's only the rotunda) maybe even through McFadden's where they always seem a little less concerned in general.
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themetfairy
Jul 11 2013 11:50 AM
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The thought did occur to me.
My camera is far from commercial grade, but I don't know to whom I could appeal if someone gives me a hard time about it.
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Ceetar
Jul 11 2013 11:53 AM
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The thought did occur to me.
My camera is far from commercial grade, but I don't know to whom I could appeal if someone gives me a hard time about it. |
No one. if you protest you're a terrorist. That's the motto of security these days.
Hmm, another thought is to go in the Hodges gate. It's the entrance the media use, but it's a normal entrance with elevators up to the field level.
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themetfairy
Jul 11 2013 12:05 PM
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That's a good thought - thanks Ceetar!
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Jul 11 2013 01:11 PM
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Bang-up profile by Steve Wulf of the late Johnny Callison, star among stars at Shea Stadium's only All-Star Game. This historical nugget is a beaut:
| Callison isn't in the Hall of Fame, but the respect for him is there in Cooperstown. In the World Series display is the Spalding glove that Mets outfielder Tommie Agee used to make his legendary catches in the 1969 World Series. It's a Johnny Callison model. |
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Jul 11 2013 01:51 PM
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Bang-up profile by Steve Wulf of the late Johnny Callison, star among stars at Shea Stadium's only All-Star Game. This historical nugget is a beaut:
| Callison isn't in the Hall of Fame, but the respect for him is there in Cooperstown. In the World Series display is the Spalding glove that Mets outfielder Tommie Agee used to make his legendary catches in the 1969 World Series. It's a Johnny Callison model. |
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Great pictures, too.
Game winning HR ball, '64 ASG, with dog bite marks, and Callison's ASG glove
Callison's game winning swing. Shea's fair territory bricks and original bullpen in the background.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 11 2013 03:25 PM
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Blue Jays reliever Steve Delabar and .... Freddie Freeman are the winners of the final spot vote-off.
So, contrary to what seems to be unanimous proclamations from the media, I guess not ALL baseball fans want nothing more than to
see Yasiel Puig in the All-Star Game.
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Jul 11 2013 04:56 PM
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Blue Jays reliever Steve Delabar and .... Freddie Freeman are the winners of the final spot vote-off.
So, contrary to what seems to be unanimous proclamations from the media, I guess not ALL baseball fans want nothing more than to
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Commence sports columnists demanding an end to fan voting.....
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Jul 11 2013 07:52 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Blue Jays reliever Steve Delabar and .... Freddie Freeman are the winners of the final spot vote-off.
So, contrary to what seems to be unanimous proclamations from the media, I guess not ALL baseball fans want nothing more than to
see Yasiel Puig in the All-Star Game. |
Commence sports columnists demanding an end to fan voting..... |
I forget if it was Stark himself or one of the Mikes on ESPN Radio's morning show, but a suggestion was made about a new roster slot for "hottest phenom" of the season to give to guys who come up late and catch fire.
Of course that will get promptly hijacked by fans of teams who have a veteran and multiple time All-Star return from a long stint on the DL (or suspended list), in June and is just red hot for the 6 weeks before the ASG.
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Jul 11 2013 08:47 PM
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The mainstream sports guys tend to get pissed when the flavor of the week players who are among the few that they actually know get passed over
in favor of other guys who they haven't heard of but who just may happen to be, you know, good.
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Jul 11 2013 09:01 PM
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The mainstream sports guys tend to get pissed when the flavor of the week players who are among the few that they actually know get passed over
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Perfect example of a more career scoping version of this is Colin Cowherd's idiotic stance that Craig Biggio should not be in the Hall of Fame, while Jose Canseco should, simply because of...well...here is David Bowie...
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The thing is though, this is an extreme case of R.A. Dickey last year, Hideo Nomo from his rookie season, Fernandomania in 1981, Fydrich in his rookie season, where the press gets galvanized over a perceived "transcending the game, and entering the cultural zeitgeist" of these athletes they cover. Almost trying to appear more important than they actually are (hey, we are covering things relevant to pop culture, not just frivolous entertainment).
BTW, was half jokingly about to reply to your comment in the MFY thread about Jeter's return, that MFY ball lickers in the media and social media outlets were getting ready to bust out "after that game, Jeter should be named to the ASG!" Which, considering the media's fascination with Puig, might not be to absurd to consider...
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Jul 11 2013 09:16 PM
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| "Puig ... who joined the Los Angeles Dodgers in early June and turned in one the greatest single months any player has done over the last 140 years." |
No, he's had one of the greatest debut months over the last 100+ years. A very nice accomplishment indeed and a great month even for someone NOT new to the league, but overall it's a very different category than saying it's one of the great months of any kind ever.
It's that kind of fact-twisting (intentional or otherwise) and lack of perspective that makes for a poor soap-box on which to lecture his audience on what is or isn't the best thing for baseball. |
Oddly enough, this kind of proves my point towards a veteran playing his first game of the season in June for whatever reason (injury, suspension, hell even an inter-league trade after May 31st, or something akin to Tim Raines' 1987) and just playing out of this world his first month back.
There would be precedence using the logic Levine puts forth for fans of that team/player and media members, both national and local to demand that he be at the All-Star Game, especially if its a guy that is a long standing star using the "how can you have the game without HIM!?" argument.
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Jul 12 2013 12:36 PM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... -1.1396555
ASG and NY Met Ambassador John Franco talks about growing up in Brooklyn and stumping for the Mets.
Shootout at Popeye Doyle's residence, set at the Marlboro Housing Projects, Franco's boyhood home, touches off one of the wildest car chase scenes in movie history.
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The thing is though, this is an extreme case of R.A. Dickey last year, Hideo Nomo from his rookie season, Fernandomania in 1981, Fydrich in his rookie season, where the press gets galvanized over a perceived "transcending the game, and entering the cultural zeitgeist" of these athletes they cover. Almost trying to appear more important than they actually are (hey, we are covering things relevant to pop culture, not just frivolous entertainment).. |
It's not even so much that as it is plugging Puig over all others because they don't know who the others are!
If one were to give, say, Mike & Mike, a quiz on the AS roster where, given the name of the reserves, they then had to supply the team and position of each, Greenberg would miss on maybe 1/3 of them and Golic on probably twice that number. They and their colleagues aren't wrong in that Puig is a big story, just skewed in that they think he's the only one. They're not up on who else in the midst of a good season because they're too busy ranking the best quarterback in July and counting down the days until training camp openings. Clued in to Puig by those baseball nerds down the hall, they latched onto his story to the exclusion of just about everything else because they've got so little basis for comparison. Plus harping on this gives some the license to knock the baseball establishment for being too old and stodgy to include the likes of Puig. That's why it was particularly irksome to them when the internet-voting fans, presumed to be the younger and hipper ones, failed to vote the way ESPN assumed was a choice of one.
Hell, Puig being left off (and he still could get if via injuries etc.) isn't even the biggest injustice among LA Dodgers. Hanley Ramirez, who also is short on ABs (due to injuries in his case) has the same number of HRs in fewer ABs and is "out-slashing" [.402/.458/.726] Puig across the board. And, oh yeah, he's a SS who's already been a batting champ.
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Jul 12 2013 01:16 PM
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They['re] not up on who else in the midst of a good season because they're too busy ranking the best quarterback in July and counting down the days until training camp openings. |
I see your point, but so what? My mother gets to vote, if she wanted to, and the only baseball player she could name is Tom Seaver. It's a popularity contest, baseball knows it, and having considered all the alternative methods of selecting an ASG roster, wants it this way. I must be getting old, because none of this matters to me any more. For all I care, Harvey and Wright could wear the embarrassing and hideous black drop-shadow unis with the even hideous-er black cap with the multi-colored logo that blends into the color purple.
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Jul 12 2013 01:27 PM
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They['re] not up on who else in the midst of a good season because they're too busy ranking the best quarterback in July and counting down the days until training camp openings. |
I see your point, but so what? My mother gets to vote, if she wanted to, and the only baseball player she could name is Tom Seaver. It's a popularity contest, baseball knows it, and having considered all the alternative methods of selecting an ASG roster, wants it this way. I must be getting old, because none of this matters to me any more. For all I care, Harvey and Wright could wear the embarrassing and hideous black drop-shadow unis with the even hideous-er black cap with the multi-colored logo that blends into the color purple. |
Of course it's a popularity contest (to a certain extent anyway) and the popular vote chose not to choose Puig. And again, I don't have a problem with those who DO want Puig and it would be fine with me if he winds up going. What I'm railing against here is the idea that this game will be some kind of travesty without him put forth by folks who barely follow the sport (in some cases are openly hostile to it) and only latched onto this story as a kind of issue-du-jour.
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Jul 12 2013 02:36 PM
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Anyone planning on attending FanFest at the Javits Center? |
Yes, wanna go with the Pail. But figured on buying tix at door, either Sat am or Sunday am. |
Just to update yous guys I got tixx today, but they are not selling entries earlier than noon Saturday. So sounds as though we're gonna get right in the thickest of it.
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Jul 13 2013 08:29 AM
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I was worried about being exhausted at work on Wednesday after the late All-Star Game, but then I remember I went to work after going to the game in 2006 as well.. I'll probably be MORE rested this time right?
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Jul 13 2013 03:35 PM
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[attachment=0:1nx2w7d9]mets.jpg[/attachment:1nx2w7d9]Went to the FanFest this morning. It's not really my kind of thing, but it was fine. Plenty to see and do for folks who wanted autographs or a chance to hit, throw and field. Exhibits of the annual trophies, a ton of memorabilia up for auction (including everything Warren Spahn ever had, from the look of it), and some other good stuff. Worth the time, especially since it got us into the city and close enough to Eataly to head over for lunch and shopping.
As the host team there was lots of Mets-centric stuff (two big history walls among them) but the coolest was a life-size cutout team photo that you could climb into and get your picture taken. Which, of course, means a life-size cutout of Anthony Recker. He seems to be floating on air like the angel he is.
(Disclaimer: We didn't wait on line or get our picture taken. I have no idea who the people in this picture are.)
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Jul 13 2013 03:55 PM
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Lets start getting pumped. Well, those that still enjoy the ASG, anyways.
My first ASG is still one of my best ASG memories.
Is that Durocher behind Rose? He looks like he's sayin
"yea man, thats the way to do it!"
[youtube]4Fj2B9z4Dbw[/youtube]
Color footage. Neat to see. In 70 I did not have a color TV.
Reggie gave us something to see in '71.
[youtube]-2D9mBNnpUY[/youtube]
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Jul 13 2013 03:58 PM
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so Let's say you have 40 minutes, max, in FanFest..what do you see? (not real interested in autographs)
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Swan Swan H
Jul 13 2013 04:19 PM
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The Mets stuff is as soon as you walk in, which leads into an excellent Negro Leagues exhibit. The auction stuff is right there - half genuine memorabilia, half stuff. I'd check out the trophies - just takes a minute if you don't want a picture of the WS trophy.
The big room has most of the interactive stuff. We spent some time watching kids in the base stealing area - lots of fun. Sirius XM, WFAN and ESPN Radio all have booths with live broadcasts, so if there's someone there it might be worth some time.
If you're into things like jerseys, old Starling Lineup figures and the like, there are three or four exhibitors of that kind of thing. Also, Scotts has a lawn care exhibit - perfect for the new homeowner!
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Ceetar
Jul 13 2013 04:37 PM
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If you're into things like jerseys, old Starling Lineup figures and the like, there are three or four exhibitors of that kind of thing. Also, Scotts has a lawn care exhibit - perfect for the new homeowner! |
Good to know, but I have at least like 45 days before I'm that.
Actually, I think I underestimated how far the Javits center is from Grand Central. *Grumble*
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Ceetar
Jul 13 2013 05:08 PM
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"Well Casey told the writers, 'No offense to Mr. Mazeroski, but my guy Mr. Hunt is the best second baseman in the game today.'" -Ron Hunt
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 13 2013 05:55 PM
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so Let's say you have 40 minutes, max, in FanFest..what do you see? (not real interested in autographs) |
Make awesome catches:
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 13 2013 05:55 PM
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or this:
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Jul 13 2013 06:16 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Lets start getting pumped. Well, those that still enjoy the ASG, anyways.
My first ASG is still one of my best ASG memories.
Is that Durocher behind Rose? He looks like he's sayin
"yea man, thats the way to do it!"
[youtube]4Fj2B9z4Dbw[/youtube]
Color footage. Neat to see. In 70 I did not have a color TV.
Reggie gave us something to see in '71.
[youtube]-2D9mBNnpUY[/youtube] |
My first ASG Recognition is the Killebrew groin split.
Still like the intro more than the game...
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Jul 13 2013 06:38 PM
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I wasn't aware of that incident Ashie. 1968. Very kool. Not for Harmon though.
  
Great screen shots from the game, including stints by Seaver and Koosman (and commercials). I imagine this was the first time they did this overhead camera view. Maybe not, since the Astrodome was around for a few. First time I saw it. Its amazing the leap in telecast quality during the 60s. I watched a few innings of a 1961 NBC Game OF The Week earlier today and it felt like I was watching something from the 1930s.
[url]http://fleersticker.blogspot.com/2011/07/1968-all-star-game-broadcast.html
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Jul 13 2013 06:49 PM
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Me, too. Seeing all the all-stars lined up on the foul lines in their different uniforms is my favorite part of the ASG.
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Jul 13 2013 07:13 PM
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Great shots of Bucket and Lunchpail.
But really, enough of Pete Rose and Reggie Jackson --- the two most definitive players of the seventies for all the wrong reasons. Let's see some Mazzilli '79 footage.
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Jul 13 2013 07:18 PM
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Taking Lorcan and a friend to the Futures Game tomorrow instead of the Javits Center....3 tickets for $21, hard to beat, some future Mets greats starting?, priceless.
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Edgy MD
Jul 13 2013 07:21 PM
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Edgardo Alfonzo and Mookie Wilson managing.
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Zvon
Jul 13 2013 07:26 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Great shots of Bucket and Lunchpail.
But really, enough of Pete Rose and Reggie Jackson --- the two most definitive players of the seventies for all the wrong reasons. Let's see some Mazzilli '79 footage. |
I gave it one minute of searching and this is all I got:
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And thats not the outfield wall, lol.
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Jul 13 2013 07:26 PM
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Taking Lorcan and a friend to the Futures Game tomorrow instead of the Javits Center....3 tickets for $21, hard to beat, some future Mets greats starting?, priceless.
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Cool - I hope to see you there!
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Edgy MD
Jul 13 2013 07:43 PM
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Still looking for Mazz's homer. Here's the super play that it set up (and it turn set up his go-ahead walk), with great Gary Carter action.
[youtube:1akr0uui]1PH6XJypKno[/youtube:1akr0uui]
Both Jackson and Rose (natch) showed up without their full uniforms that year. Jackson ended up going through BP and pre-game warmups, I think, in a Mariners kit. Rose, as you see in that shot, took the field in a tee shirt.
Worth noting also that it's like the bottom of the eighth, but look who's in the game: Parker, Rose, Carter... You'd think Carter would be the perennial starter by this time in his career, having at last replaced Bench, but he was actually a substitute. The starter was Bob F. Boone.
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Ceetar
Jul 13 2013 09:51 PM
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Taking Lorcan and a friend to the Futures Game tomorrow instead of the Javits Center....3 tickets for $21, hard to beat, some future Mets greats starting?, priceless.
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Jul 13 2013 10:13 PM
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The Tim McCarver Farewell Tour rolls on as Tim is set to announce his last ASG. In this piece, Tim shoots the breeze about Yasiel Puig, the 1980's Mets and Harvelous Harv.
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With the game being played at Citi Field, McCarver talked about his 16 years as a Mets broadcaster, from 1983 to ’98.
It’s easy to forget, he said, “how big the Mets were during the 1980s. I know New Yorkers and people around the country are familiar with how attached New Yorkers are to the New York Yankees now, but they were at least equally attached to the Mets back in the ’80s. The Mets owned the town, with those colorful ball clubs. … And some of their announcers thought, including me, that they should have won it all more than in just 1986. In 1988, I thought they had a better club than they did in 1986. They had better pitching with David Cone” that year.
Mets pitcher Matt Harvey is expected to be the NL’s starter on Tuesday night in the Mid-Summer Classic. Mets manager Terry Collins skipped Harvey’s spot in the rotation on Saturday to keep his pitcher fresh for the All-Star Game, a very unconventional move. McCarver, as you might have guessed, had an opinion on that.
“I think it’s a real shot in the arm for that franchise to have a guy like Matt Harvey starting,” McCarver said. “Of course he has not been named yet, but everybody is speculating that he will be the pitcher. … Harvey is missing a start during the season, on Saturday, because he has blister problems, in order to be able to start on Tuesday night. I think that’s refreshing. I think it’s the right thing to do, because that franchise really needs a lift like the one Harvey has given them through the first half and could certainly give them in the All-Star Game.” |
http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... 19549/1004
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Jul 13 2013 10:23 PM
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This ASG business is sure generating lotsa Mets-centric pieces. And not just the kind that you'd think were written by Howie Megdal.
When Shea Was the Stadium of the Future
By JARED DIAMOND
If the Mets still called Shea Stadium home, Major League Baseball probably wouldn't let them host next week's All-Star Game, one of the sport's premier events.
Taken at its best, Shea stood as a nostalgic remnant from a kooky bygone era by the time the Mets vacated the old place following the 2008 season. Most people probably didn't read that much into it: They just referred to it as a dump.
But dismissing Shea Stadium as nothing more than an ugly blue semicircle surrounded by a sea of auto-part shops—and it certainly fit that description at the end—ignores the building's influential role in ballpark history.
When the All-Star Game last came to Flushing in 1964, the three-month-old Shea represented a bold vision of the future. It just so happens that "the future" became "the past" far quicker than anybody imagined.
"Shea Stadium was then not only new, but in the vanguard of ballpark architecture," said John Thorn, MLB's official historian. "It became an eye sore, but it didn't look as ugly as it would."
Shea Stadium—then the first new stadium built in New York City in more than 40 years—opened on April 17, 1964, a season later than originally expected. The delay wound up serving as a fortunate coincidence: The 1964 World's Fair, held at Flushing Meadows Park in the shadow of Shea, began less than a week later.
That fair, renowned for its optimistic perspective on the blossoming Space Age and the promise of progress that would come with it, became intrinsically connected with the new ballpark.
Though technically not located in the fairgrounds, Shea appeared on the fair's maps. The Mets wore a patch commemorating the fair on their uniforms. The fair's official guidebook heralded the stadium as "the latest word in comfort, convenience and design for sporting arenas."
It began with the exterior, noted for its bright colors and bizarre blue and orange panels suspended on cables so thin that they appeared to float in midair. (The funky neon baseball players came much later.)
Inside, Shea didn't feature vertical columns and therefore had no Wrigley Field-like obstructed-view seats, despite a capacity of more than 55,000. John Pastier, an architecture critic and the author of a book about baseball stadiums, said that "people remarked that this was the brightest sports lighting system ever installed."
In the mid-1960s, this looked space-aged. This looked sleek. Shea received so much attention when it opened that the Beatles went there in 1965, playing one of their most famous concerts ever.
"The World's Fair was all about inventing the future as you would like to see it," said Mark Lamster, an architecture professor and critic with a background in writing about baseball. "Shea was like another relic of the future that lasted a long time until the future passed it by."
Shea's attempt at futurism perfectly reflected the era, spurring a boom of similar ballpark design. An entire generation of stadiums—some loved, some reviled—traces its origin back to Queens.
Shea marked the second of the multipurpose round stadiums (the Jets played there, too), opening two seasons after Washington's RFK Stadium. It sparked an onslaught of multipurpose round stadiums around the country—a collection of stadiums now known derisively as "cookie cutters."
But at the time, "cookie cutter" seemed like the next wave. The model strove for efficiency, not beauty: a giant sterile circle built in its own little world. Pastier called the notion of building one stadium for baseball and football "a progressive idea," rooted in the economic philosophies of the period.
"It saved money," he said. "It was a progressive, modern way of being more rational than what preceded it."
At this time, middle-class families lived in the suburbs. They wanted to drive to the game, take advantage of the ocean of parking spaces and then turn around and drive home, all without going through the big bad city. They couldn't do that at Yankee Stadium or Ebbets Field or the Polo Grounds.
Ron Hunt, the Mets' lone representative in the 1964 All-Star Game, remembers Shea as a "plus for fans," in large part because of the massive parking lot and overall ease of access by automobile, especially compared to the Polo Grounds. Pastier described it as "modern living."
"Shea was form flowing from function," Thorn said. "The function? To give you a comfortable seat to watch the ballgame and easy parking to get out of it. It was the new functionalism. Everything started going that direction."
So what went wrong?
Economic conditions in New York played a role in Shea's demise, as the city's financial woes in the 1970s affected the stadium's upkeep. Pastier surmised that the field perhaps took a beating in 1975, when the Mets, Yankees (during their stadium's renovation), Jets and Giants all played their home games at Shea.
But more than any of that, Shea simply went out of style. Fans began to bemoan the cookie-cutter model as bland and impersonal. Cities began to revitalize their downtowns. Franchise owners began to sense new ways to increase revenues by building stadiums designed only for baseball, filled with suites and luxury boxes.
Once Baltimore's Camden Yards opened in 1992, Shea didn't stand a chance. One by one, the cookie-cutters fell, replaced by "retro-modern" stadiums, meant to look and feel like the cozy ballparks of old. Football teams began building their own stadiums as well.
Compared to Citi Field, maybe Shea was a dump. But it was the Mets' dump—and an important one at that.
"When it was brand-spanking new, it was an idea of what the future might be," Lamster said. "But very quickly the reality set in on what Shea was: A not-super accommodating concrete-and steel-donut." |
A version of this article appeared July 13, 2013, on page A22 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: Queens' Futuristic Blue Semicircle.
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Jul 14 2013 10:42 AM
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1970 National Gillette Razor Ad for the 1970 ASG (fan vote reinstated) featuring managers Gil Hodges and Earl Weaver. The illustration for the ad is among the last Met themed pieces ever done by Willard Mullin, and might even be Mullin's last Met illustration.
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batmagadanleadoff
Jul 14 2013 10:52 AM
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1970 National Gillette Razor Ad for the 1970 ASG (fan vote reinstated) featuring managers Gil Hodges and Earl Weaver. The illustration for the ad is among the last Met themed pieces ever done by Willard Mullin, and might even be Mullin's last Met illustration.
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And ... yeah ... that was the Hickman/Rose/Fosse ASG.
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batmagadanleadoff
Jul 14 2013 03:33 PM
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Big week for Mets first starting All-Star, Ron Hunt, who curently seems to be on everybody's interview wish list:
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Ron Hunt was the Mets first All-Star starter back in 1964, as the franchise hosted the game for the first
and only time in history.
[Hunt]’ll be at Citi Field on Tuesday night for the All-Star Game, his first trip to the team’s new ballpark — though he still has no idea why the Mets built it to resemble Ebbets Field. He remembers Shea Stadium in 1964, when it was new and glistening. He wishes the club had built a park that was a retro-chic version of Shea, the park where he — and later his grandfather — came to know. |
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Edgy MD
Jul 14 2013 05:07 PM
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| He wishes the club had built a park that was a retro-chic version of Shea, the park where he — and later his grandfather — came to know. |
Exactly. HIRE RON HUNT!
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MFS62
Jul 15 2013 08:53 AM
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Montero started for the International team.
Any pics of him?
Later
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Ceetar
Jul 15 2013 08:55 AM
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MFS62
Jul 15 2013 08:59 AM
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Thanks.
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Swan Swan H
Jul 15 2013 09:46 AM
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There was a very nice tribute to Gary Carter, introduced by Jennie Finch, at the beginning of the softball game. Kid had caught Jennie in one of the previous games, and there were some clips of that, as well as a number of clips from his Mets career. All of the ex-Mets in the game (Doc, Darryl, Franco, Rickey and Piazza) got a highlights package on the scoreboard during the game.
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Jul 15 2013 10:01 AM
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Although it's not supposed to be announced officially until 1:30pm, Andy Martino reports that Harvelous Harv will start this year's ASG for the National League.
Report: Matt Harvey To Start For NL In All-Star Game
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — No surprise here: Mets ace Matt Harvey will be named the National League’s starting pitcher for Tuesday’s All-Star Game at Citi Field, according to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News.
NL manager Bruce Bochy will make it official on Monday, Martino reported via Twitter.
Harvey told WFAN radio last month that he was eyeing the start at the Mets’ home ballpark.
“That would be a huge adrenaline rush,” Harvey told Mike Francesa. “And it would be the start of hopefully something great, to have my first All-Star Game at home and hopefully get a chance to start it.”
Harvey is 7-2 with a 2.35 ERA and a league-leading 147 strikeouts.
“This guy is the most dominant pitcher, and I’ve played behind some great ones,” Mets captain David Wright said Monday on WFAN’s “Boomer & Carton” show. “He generates the buzz of Pedro Martinez or Johan Santana and has the stuff to go out there and absolutely dominate lineups. And he’s done that.” |
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/15/ ... star-game/
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Ceetar
Jul 15 2013 10:03 AM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
There was a very nice tribute to Gary Carter, introduced by Jennie Finch, at the beginning of the softball game. Kid had caught Jennie in one of the previous games, and there were some clips of that, as well as a number of clips from his Mets career. All of the ex-Mets in the game (Doc, Darryl, Franco, Rickey and Piazza) got a highlights package on the scoreboard during the game. |
As well as Ozzie Smith.
Actually, did Rickey get one? I feel like I missed that.
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Swan Swan H
Jul 15 2013 10:06 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Swan Swan H wrote:
There was a very nice tribute to Gary Carter, introduced by Jennie Finch, at the beginning of the softball game. Kid had caught Jennie in one of the previous games, and there were some clips of that, as well as a number of clips from his Mets career. All of the ex-Mets in the game (Doc, Darryl, Franco, Rickey and Piazza) got a highlights package on the scoreboard during the game. |
As well as Ozzie Smith.
Actually, did Rickey get one? I feel like I missed that. |
Yes, Ozzie. I thought I was forgetting a non-Met. Thanks.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 16 2013 12:02 PM
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Just spent lunch hour in the heat watching the Parade of All-Stars As They Drive Slowly Down 42nd Street in Quality Chevy Trucks. I must have come too late, or left too early, to see Wright & Harvey, but made it through the rest of the NL and the beginning of the AL, before I left. Very hot out there.
A bunch of X-Mets came riding by atop a doubledecker bus. Spotted Franco, Mookie, Al Jackson. But this event was great for Wifey Watching above all.
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batmagadanleadoff
Jul 16 2013 12:03 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/13/sport ... D1916B116F
Jesus H. Christ on a bun! I can't access this NYT Sandomir piece on the '64 ASG because I've exceeded my monthly limit of 10 free articles on the NYT web-site. I thought the restriction didn't apply to their Sports section.
A little help.
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metirish
Jul 16 2013 12:09 PM
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Here you go.....as an aside, they have changed their subscriptions, my digital subscription was for online(any device, but not kindle/ipad), the chrome app but not the android app............that has changed as of yesterday....my subscription covers them all now(not sure about ipad as I do not have one)
Shea Stadium and the World’s Fair opened in Flushing Meadows-Corona Park in April 1964, reason enough for Major League Baseball to stage its All-Star Game in Queens. By July 7, the day of the midseason classic, which was played on a sunny afternoon, the Mets had lost 58 games on their way to losing 109.
The Mets are finally hosting the All-Star Game again, at Citi Field on Tuesday. Once again, the Mets aren’t very good, although 109 losses would seem beyond their reach.
A half-century from now, fans may talk about the Hall of Famers on the current National and American League rosters, a group that includes Miguel Cabrera, Robinson Cano, Joey Votto and David Wright. The oldest player is Mariano Rivera, 43; the youngest is Bryce Harper, 20.
The 1964 All-Star squads had 18 eventual Hall of Famers, 12 from the National League. Both teams were so loaded that Sandy Koufax and Whitey Ford never got to throw a pitch, but they did guard the ball bags during batting practice. Bill Mazeroski and Ron Santo didn’t get to play, either. Hank Aaron was a mere ninth-inning pinch-hitter for Ron Hunt, a starter at second base who was the lone Mets All-Star.
Casey Stengel, the Mets’ irrepressible manager, coached first base for the National League. He looked at the lineup card before the game and said: “Look at them extry men. Aaron, White, Koufax, Bunning. This lineup is so good that my best hitter, Ron Hunt, is batting eighth.”
The starting pitchers were from the two Los Angeles teams: Don Drysdale of the Dodgers and Dean Chance of the Angels. The N.L. manager was the Dodgers’ Walter Alston; Al Lopez of the Chicago White Sox managed the A.L. team
The game drew an announced crowd of 50,850, the largest for an All-Star Game since 1959 but a few thousand short of a sellout. The National League won, 7-4, on a three-run, game-ending home run by the Philadelphia Phillies’ Johnny Callison.
A portrait of the game was derived from interviews with some of the All-Stars.
DICK GROAT N.L. starting shortstop I liked Shea Stadium. I just loved New York City. I broke in at the Polo Grounds, where I got my first major league hit. I even met my wife at the Polo Grounds.
DEAN CHANCE My parents drove out to the game from Ohio, and my friends were there. I can’t say that Shea stood out from anywhere else, but it was the first time I’d ever seen it.
RON HUNT The big thing was that my grandpa and my mom had a chance to fly in. I come from a split home, and Grandpa and Mom raised me in the alleys of St. Louis, and he taught me how to play ball, hit a ball, and how to play bottle caps.
JOE PEPITONE A.L. reserve first baseman It was new, and any new ballpark for the first time is special. It was exciting. The fences were deep. It had more of a coliseum look.
BILL WHITE N.L. reserve first baseman We didn’t like the American League. The National League always felt it had better players. We thought we were more competitive.
JOE TORRE N.L. starting catcher There’s so much more fanfare now. When we walked into the clubhouse, you looked up and you had medical tape above everybody’s locker with your name on it.
PEPITONE It was a totally different game then. Now it’s more of a comedy. Kids out there laughing. We wanted to beat the other team and beat them bad. You saw Rose slide full blast into Fosse in an All-Star Game. Today, a guy slides and the other guy helps him up. If I did that, Ralph Houk would have grabbed me by the eyeballs.
TORRE I was going over the signs with Drysdale, and here I am, 23, not yet 24, and I’m asking him what he wants to use for signs. And he said, “Just fastball, curve and breaking ball.” I said, “What’s your sign for your spitball?” and he said, “I’ll just throw it off the fastball.” Being dumb, I said yes, and he threw that wet fastball three or four times past me.
JIM FREGOSI A.L. starting shortstop Dean really wanted to start. He got knocked out early the Sunday before in Boston so he could start in the All-Star Game. That was the contention of many of us at the time.
The American League jumped to a 1-0 lead against Drysdale in the first inning when Harmon Killebrew singled in Fregosi, who led off the inning with a single and advanced to second on a passed ball by Torre — perhaps one of Drysdale’s spitters. Chance began what became an easy three-inning stint — two hits, no runs, two strikeouts — with the leadoff hitter Roberto Clemente.
CHANCE I had two strikes on Clemente and tried to throw a slider. It hung up by his eyes and he went off his feet, and he struck out. It was totally luck. Next hitter was Dick Groat, and I struck him out. The only two guys I struck out.
HUNT Chance was just another pitcher to me. I hit a 3-1 slider over the shortstop’s head for a single.
In the fourth inning, Lopez replaced Chance with Kansas City Athletics reliever John Wyatt. Billy Williams greeted him with a home run. Three batters later, Ken Boyer made it 2-1 with another home run.
CHANCE John was a funny guy. He threw a spitball. If he came into a city after us, I’d leave a tube of Vaseline for him. After the game, he said, “Man, they had enough ash in that dugout to build a house with it.” He also said that Williams was squeezing the bat so hard smoke was coming out of it.
The National League added to its lead with a run in the fifth, but Brooks Robinson’s two-run triple in the sixth and Fregosi’s sacrifice fly in the seventh gave the A.L. a 4-3 lead. That led to a dramatic bottom of the ninth. Dick Radatz, the 6-foot-6-inch Boston Red Sox pitcher nicknamed the Monster, was in his third inning of relief, two days after winning his seventh game of the season with three innings to close out a game against the Angels.
PEPITONE Monster? We called him a lot of things.
CHANCE He would come down sidearm, and the damned ball rose three or four feet.
TORRE He was just an imposing figure, so big and so wide.
Radatz walked Willie Mays to start the inning.
CHANCE When Willie was on first, Mickey Mantle was shouting, “Hey, watch him, watch him, he could steal second.”
Mays did steal second. Orlando Cepeda followed with a bloop single that fell between Pepitone and right fielder Rocky Colavito. Mays tied the score when Pepitone’s throw home bounced over catcher Elston Howard.
PEPITONE Yeah, I remember that. I remember lots of things. Believe me, I tried to get the guy out.
Curt Flood pinch-ran for Cepeda, and Radatz intentionally walked catcher Johnny Edwards.
JOHNNY EDWARDS I had faced Dick in college, and boy, he blew me away that time. I was a low-ball hitter, and I thought I could get to him. So I was surprised when he intentionally walked me. I wanted to hit.
Aaron came up next to pinch-hit for Hunt. Aaron said he was not hurt, but Callison said after the game that Aaron had been ill.
HANK AARON You’d have to ask Walter Alston why I didn’t get in earlier. I wanted to do whatever he asked. ... I had never faced Radatz. But he was someone to be reckoned with. I knew he threw hard. I’m sure he got me out on a fastball. That brought up Callison, who was a very good fastball hitter. Radatz was a very good fastball pitcher. It was strength against strength.
RADATZ from an Associated Press article I threw him a low fastball in the seventh inning, and he hit it pretty good. So I thought I’d try him up high.
CALLISON who died in 2006, from The Morning Call in Allentown, Pa. He really hummed them past Hank. I also remember how hard he threw in the seventh. So I decided to switch to a lighter bat. I borrowed one from Billy Williams.
TORRE I was already out of the game. I got showered and dressed and was in the runway peeking out. You couldn’t sit on the bench in your street clothes.
On Radatz’s first pitch, Callison hit a three-run home run that landed in the second deck of right field.
CHANCE I’ll tell you, guys didn’t walk off our bench smiling. They weren’t too happy for Johnny.
CALLISON from The Morning Call Every day someone tells me about it. Good thing, too, because at my age, I’m having trouble remembering what happened.
Callison believed that his home run was a positive omen for the Phillies — that 1964 would be their year. He had reason to be confident. A few weeks earlier at Shea Stadium, his teammate Jim Bunning pitched a perfect game against the Mets on Father’s Day. But on Sept. 21, the Phillies embarked on a 10-game losing streak and blew their six-and-a-half-game lead with just a dozen games left. It was one of the worst collapses in baseball history and allowed the St. Louis Cardinals to win the pennant and go on to beat the Yankees in the World Series.
Whichever league wins Tuesday’s All-Star Game will have home-field advantage in the World Series, but that’s not necessarily an omen, either.
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Edgy MD
Jul 16 2013 12:10 PM
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I get past a lot of those walls by eyeing the article's title an then searching for it by name. Sometimes you're allowed to read if you don't got through the front page.
Usually works with the Washington Post, anywhizz.
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batmagadanleadoff
Jul 16 2013 12:11 PM
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Thanks, Irish.
First ASG I ever watched. Lindsey Nelson appear in a snowflake patterned jacket, perfect for a sweltering summer night in Detroit (4:30). Player introductions begin at about 5:30.
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Swan Swan H
Jul 16 2013 12:14 PM
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I hope it holds for this post, but as of my last my posting level is Ron Hunt. A lovely coincidence.
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Ceetar
Jul 16 2013 12:25 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Just spent lunch hour in the heat watching the Parade of All-Stars As They Drive Slowly Down 42nd Street in Quality Chevy Trucks. I must have come too late, or left too early, to see Wright & Harvey, but made it through the rest of the NL and the beginning of the AL, before I left. Very hot out there.
A bunch of X-Mets came riding by atop a doubledecker bus. Spotted Franco, Mookie, Al Jackson. But this event was great for Wifey Watching above all. |
I was going to make the Wifey Watch comment too. (You'll have to wait, I took pictures but don't seem to have an SDHC card reader at work) Wright was on the bus, didn't realize right away though. Harvey was one of the first cars, after Davey and Bochey. In a suit. (real suit, not birthday)
Only image I snapped on my phone, Cliff Lee with a 'parasol'
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 16 2013 12:32 PM
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Ceets I was right on the other side of 5th from you. Oh wait, that's Madison or something.
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Ceetar
Jul 16 2013 12:36 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Ceets I was right on the other side of 5th from you. Oh wait, that's Madison or something. |
yeah, NE corner of Madison. I'm working at 44th and Madison these days so a quick two blocks seemed most time-efficient.
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Swan Swan H
Jul 16 2013 12:39 PM
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Boy, I hate working in the suburbs.
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metirish
Jul 16 2013 12:43 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Boy, I hate working in the suburbs. |
seriously, I want that job where I can loaf off at the parade...
any sign of Seaver?
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Ceetar
Jul 16 2013 12:46 PM
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metirish wrote:
Swan Swan H wrote:
Boy, I hate working in the suburbs. |
seriously, I want that job where I can loaf off at the parade...
any sign of Seaver? |
yeah, flooring it down 42nd at the front of the Parade. Nancy too. (It is Nancy right?)
Working in the city is nice, and then things like 7line train fires happen and you're flat out stranded.
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metirish
Jul 16 2013 12:46 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
metirish wrote:
Swan Swan H wrote:
Boy, I hate working in the suburbs. |
seriously, I want that job where I can loaf off at the parade...
any sign of Seaver? |
yeah, flooring it down 42nd at the front of the Parade. Nancy too. (It is Nancy right?) |
was that Tom asking if it was Nancy?(kidding)
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Swan Swan H
Jul 16 2013 12:55 PM
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metirish wrote:
Swan Swan H wrote:
Boy, I hate working in the suburbs. |
seriously, I want that job where I can loaf off at the parade...
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Oh, if I was in NYC instead of Suffuck County, I'd have been there. Dentist's appointment, grandma's funeral, whatever. See you in two hours, boys.
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Mets – Willets Point
Jul 16 2013 02:09 PM
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Parades are cool. I certainly don't recall a parade in Boston in 1999 (although I don't work downtown so I could've missed it).
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Ceetar
Jul 16 2013 02:12 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Parades are cool. I certainly don't recall a parade in Boston in 1999 (although I don't work downtown so I could've missed it). |
2005 was the first one I think.
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Mets – Willets Point
Jul 16 2013 02:13 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Parades are cool. I certainly don't recall a parade in Boston in 1999 (although I don't work downtown so I could've missed it). |
2005 was the first one I think. |
Interesting. A parade has a very old-time feel to it.
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Ceetar
Jul 16 2013 02:29 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Parades are cool. I certainly don't recall a parade in Boston in 1999 (although I don't work downtown so I could've missed it). |
2005 was the first one I think. |
Interesting. A parade has a very old-time feel to it. |
remember it's a "Red Carpet Show" not a Parade. ;-) And the "Parade" is riding on sponsor's trucks.
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d'Kong76
Jul 16 2013 03:36 PM
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In case no one knows ....
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
This is Mariano's last All-Star Game.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 16 2013 04:31 PM
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So bright I couldn't even see my screen, these are crappy, out of focus phone shots:
Mets bus. That's Franco in the orange shirt and Mookie in the white shirt and white cap.
Max Scherzer & Wifey
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MFS62
Jul 17 2013 08:42 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Thanks, Irish.
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The first, and only All Star game I attended was this one. (Game #2 that year, at YSI)
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/asgbox/yr1960as.shtml
Some pretty good ballplayers in that one.
I went with my friend Andy, who was a Pirates fan. So we got extra enjoyment seeing Vern Law win over Whitey Ford.
Later
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batmagadanleadoff
Jul 17 2013 09:36 AM
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The Franchise riffs on the ASG ... hasn't spoken to Harvelous yet, but unlike the Jimmy Fallon interviewees, knows who Matt is ... The Doctor keeps a running Korman Kount of Harv's K's ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/sport ... .html?_r=0
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Centerfield
Jul 17 2013 09:37 AM
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Thoughts on the Game:
It was crowded.
Everything was really expensive.
Nice hand for Wright. Bigger reception for Harvey. I guess this is expected since he is the new phenom, but would have liked to see David get more love.
Love how Collins and Davey Johnson got big hands. Laughed at the reception given to Wainright and YFM.
Seaver looked a bit frail from where I sat. Everyone cheered when he toed the rubber, then groaned a little when he didn't go into the windup. I think not everyone knew he was sick. A bit awkward. Surprised Piazza was not asked to catch. That's like, you know, what we do.
American Idol winner for the anthem? I guess it's on Fox. She sucked.
Mets and Yankees fans were trying to get along in the crowd. Got tense when Cano got hit, even worse when he had to leave. The scoreboard said X-Rays negative and that eased things a bit.
Mascot races are stupid. I'm so glad we don't have one.
Not sure how I feel about Mrs. Met yet.
Wish Beltran had gotten a better reception. Some idiot was booing. "I'll never forget 2006." Fucking idiot. Obviously he has forgetten about all of 2006 except one at-bat. Made me more upset than I can logically explain. Some Mets fans don't deserve a winning team.
The seventh-inning stretch was stupidly long. Then they cut off Lazy Mary. Stupid stupid stupid. This made me mad and cranky. Stupid Mets.
The game sucked. I guess whatever team I root for can't score runs.
Cool moment. Trivia question about who had the most shutouts in one season. Everyone around was yelling Gooden but the guy on screen guessed Seaver. He got a prize, and then Gooden showed up to hand it to him. Great moment.
Neil Diamond offered the most interesting moment of the night. When they announced he was going to sing, I couldn't imagine a worse fit than Sweet Caroline at a New York All-Star Game. Big groan from everyone around us. But then he started singing. I never thought I would ever see Yankee fans putting up their hands to touch hands. By the chorus, lots of people were into it. And Neil was having a blast. Turns out it's a catchy-ass song and Neil is charming and oblivious. I don't know. I still couldn't get into it. Maybe if it were presented another way. If I were king, I'd have intro-d it by saying let's be classy NY and show our support for Boston. Boston Strong bla bla blah.
Nice hand for Mariano. Enter Sandman really is a fantastic song for a closer. Yankee fans irate that they would waste Mo in the 8th.
Nice performance overall by the Mets. Harvey 2 scoreless, 3K. David 1 for 3 and an A as master of ceremonies.
Had to drive so I limited myself to one beer. Thinking this is a bad idea and don't anticipate repeating that mistake again.
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batmagadanleadoff
Jul 17 2013 09:41 AM
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Megdal not so mean to the Mets, but only because most of his ASG column is devoted to Mariano Rivera
A night at Citi Field starts with Harvey, ends with Rivera
By Howard Megdal
9:54 am Jul. 17, 2013
Three pitches into Matt Harvey's night, what was supposed to be the crown jewel of the New York Mets' baseball season threatened to turn into a debacle in line with, well, much of the team's history over the past half-dozen years.
Mike Trout lined Harvey's first pitch down the right field line for a double. Robinson Cano took a ball, then Harvey drilled him in what looked to be his knee. Cano, after some time to recover, head down, hobbled to first base. Harvey faced Miguel Cabrera, who has an O.P.S.+ this season of 201 (Babe Ruth's career O.P.S.+ is 206) with two on and none out.
"That was when I knew I was going to have to buckle down," Harvey told reporters during his post-start press conference, after he did just that and a good bit more in the 84th Major League Baseball All-Star Game at Citi Field Tuesday night, ultimately won by the American League, 3-0. "The last thing I wanted to do was go 3-0 with no outs in the All Star Game. I knew I had to make good pitches, and luckily, throwing to the best catcher in the game, that makes it a lot easier."
These are the strange, temporary loyalties formed by the All-Star Game. Harvey's cushion was Yadier Molina, also known as the man who ruined the Mets' 2006 season when he homered off Aaron Heilman in Game 7 of the N.L.C.S. It's been nearly seven years, and Harvey was in high school at the time, but Molina was lustily booed during introductions.
Still, the crowd was silent, pondering how things had deteriorated so fast. Just a few minutes before, the baseball world looked to belong to Harvey, who received the loudest cheers, louder than even the longtime Met David Wright, as he fired warmup pitches from the right field foul line, bathed in early-evening sunlight.
Mets fans know how unsure a sure thing can be, thanks to things like the 2007 and 2008 seasons. But if a Harvey meltdown would have fit into the recent history of his ballclub, what happened next is entirely how events have unfolded for Harvey.
Harvey switched from his fastball to his slider, getting ahead of Cabrera with one, and ultimately striking him out with another.
Harvey went on to pitch flawlessly, striking out three over two scoreless innings. He touched 99 with his fastball, and allowed the largest audience, by far, to ever watch him pitch see a bit of what has Mets fans so besotted.
Better still, Harvey himself gave an all-clear on the blister which had led to some recent outings that made Harvey look practically mortal.
"No, it's healed up pretty great," Harvey said about his blister. "It feels fine. I was able to finally throw my slider again, so that was definitely a big help, and you know, I'm glad everything's healthy going into the second half."
Harvey's diagnosis was backed up by empirical evidence. In his last start, he threw just four of 12 sliders for strikes, uncharacteristic for Harvey. Tuesday night, seven of his ten sliders were strikes.
So as the American League scored single runs in fourth, fifth and eighth, it was up to Robinson Cano to assure the world that he was fine. Cano was all smiles when he met the media in-game, explaining that the injury was to his quadriceps muscle, the X-rays were negative, and it didn't even hurt that much.
"In the beginning, it just felt a little tight," Cano said, speaking at an in-game press conference. "I didn't want to aggravate it in that situation."
But as Cano's presser went on, he said the injury didn't hurt much, by the end it didn't hurt at all, and when finally asked again how it felt right now, he answered brightly, "Good!" As always, see him back on the field to judge properly.
While the National League could only muster a pair of hits from current Mets great David Wright and former Mets great Carlos Beltran through eight innings, what began at Citi Field as a celebration of two Mets became a tribute to one Yankee: Mariano Rivera.
He didn't actually get to save the game: American League manager Jim Leyland didn't want to take a chance that his team would enter a ninth inning trailing, thus eliminating a bottom of the ninth and keeping Rivera from pitching in his final All-Star Game. Had the American League held an eight or ten-run lead, Leyland said later, he'd have saved Rivera for the ninth, but then, that wouldn't have been a save anyway.
According to Leyland, his players were in the dark, too.
"Well, I actually kind of lied to the players," Leyland, still in his uniform, told a gathering of reporters from a podium at his postgame press conference. "I said, 'I'm not a motivational speaker, but my motivation is to work our fannies off to get to the ninth inning and bring in the greatest closer of all time. I did lie a little bit, one inning, but for obvious reasons, I hope you all understand that. If something freaky would've happened in the eighth, where they'd scored some runs or taken the lead, there wouldn't have been a ninth."
And in Leyland's mind, as the American League headed to the bottom of the eighth with a 3-0 lead, things were still sufficiently tight that he had to go with his best guy. It was time for Rivera. Never mind that he also had Joe Nathan and his 1.36 E.R.A. at his disposal. He'd been burned too many times, as my colleague Emma Span said, by watching Jose Valverde pitch this season for the Tigers.
Leyland did this with Rivera's approval. In fact, Leyland's respect for Rivera was so great that something he said to Leyland during the Yankees' last series in Detroit made Leyland choke up, and then again as he recounted the moment, while vowing he'd never tell anyone what it was. It's as if Rivera's words possess the same magical properties as his pitches, which somehow got better as he aged.
So in came Rivera an inning early, alone from the bullpen to the mound, while a Citi Field crowd which had lustily booed Phillies and Braves representatives cheered him. He was a Yankee, but he was also the greatest relief pitcher of all time, in his final season.
"It's been an amazing night, a great event," a clearly moved Rivera said, his wife close next to him, three children standing behind them. "Has been amazing. I have no words for it."
As Rivera warmed up, it was just him and the catcher, while the other players remained in the dugout, allowing him a singular moment. Rivera said afterward that the moment, like so much else, was unexpected.
"Everything has been a surprise this night. When I was crossing the field, when I got to the mound, first, hearing the song, that I pitch [to]," referring to Enter Sandman, by Metallica, (which technically was Billy Wagner's first, but never mind that now). "I don't usually hear that song in other stadiums. ... That was great, and then when I got to the mound, I saw both teams out of the dugout, cheering and applauding there. It almost made me cry. ... I will never forget that."
Rivera came in and did what he does, throwing 11 of 16 pitches for strikes in a scoreless eighth. An inning later, Joe Nathan, of Middletown, N.Y. Babe Ruth League, Pine Bush High School and SUNY-Stonybrook, logged the final three outs.
But there was little doubt that Rivera would get the M.V.P. award, an unusual honor for somebody who, ultimately, logged a hold.
Rivera, said to be endlessly devoted to his family and many other off-field causes that should allow him a seamless transition to post-baseball life, isn't retiring because of any decline in performance. He's been better in his 40s than his 30s, just as he was better in his 30s than his 20s. And in his 20s, incidentally, he pitched to an E.R.A.+ of 182, earned two top-three Cy Young Award vote finishes, and closed for three World Series-winning teams.
A reporter asked him after the game just how long he thought he could pitch if family and life were not an issue.
Rivera laughed.
"I don't want to think about it," he said, with a familiar smile. "Because I might change my mind." More seriously, he added, "No, no, like I said before spring training, I think that the bullets are getting short. I mean, that's all I have. I don't have nothing left. I'm giving everything that I have."
He spoke for another ten minutes after that, and when he was finished, the jaded New York press crew gave him a round of applause, and crowded around Rivera and his family to take pictures and offer him congratulations on a career coming to an end on Rivera's own terms. |
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/s ... featured-1
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Ceetar
Jul 17 2013 12:02 PM
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It's almost like people/writers don't understand that part of the reason I, and others, hate Mariano (Besides the no way MY guy did steroids during the steroid era stuff) is the overly flowery worship crap and the telling me I MUST worship him or I'm an idiot and stupid fan stuff. Nope, not true. And that's sports, and part of what makes competition fun. He's not royalty, he's just another player. The Emperor, may he life for ever, honorifics get tiresome.
Honor him if you want, that's fine. I personally think it was overdone. If we're actually playing a game here you don't need to take the 3 minutes to worship him before he starts warming up. That's what announcements and warmup pitches are for. I continued to boo him. That's what you do to the enemy.
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seawolf17
Jul 17 2013 12:35 PM
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Jayson Stark wrote:
NEW YORK -- So this was how it ended for the great Mariano Rivera, after all these years and all these magical All-Star moments.
With a hold?
Seriously?
On a night that was all about him, a night when his team's only mission was to grab a lead and get the ball to Mariano the Great, it's hard to believe that this was how it ended |
"On a night that was all about him?!?!?!?" Gimme a fucking break. I'm with Ceetar.
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Edgy MD
Jul 17 2013 12:43 PM
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Leyland was pretty clear why he chose the eighth. Made all the sense in the world. Especially if you don't care for him, his team, or his league and were rooting for him to fail either way.
By the way, what's with all this "Mariano the Great"? Is that a thing?
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metirish
Jul 17 2013 01:18 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
Thoughts on the Game:
It was crowded.
Everything was really expensive.
Nice hand for Wright. Bigger reception for Harvey. I guess this is expected since he is the new phenom, but would have liked to see David get more love.
Love how Collins and Davey Johnson got big hands. Laughed at the reception given to Wainright and YFM.
Seaver looked a bit frail from where I sat. Everyone cheered when he toed the rubber, then groaned a little when he didn't go into the windup. I think not everyone knew he was sick. A bit awkward. Surprised Piazza was not asked to catch. That's like, you know, what we do.
American Idol winner for the anthem? I guess it's on Fox. She sucked.
Mets and Yankees fans were trying to get along in the crowd. Got tense when Cano got hit, even worse when he had to leave. The scoreboard said X-Rays negative and that eased things a bit.
Mascot races are stupid. I'm so glad we don't have one.
Not sure how I feel about Mrs. Met yet.
Wish Beltran had gotten a better reception. Some idiot was booing. "I'll never forget 2006." Fucking idiot. Obviously he has forgetten about all of 2006 except one at-bat. Made me more upset than I can logically explain. Some Mets fans don't deserve a winning team.
The seventh-inning stretch was stupidly long. Then they cut off Lazy Mary. Stupid stupid stupid. This made me mad and cranky. Stupid Mets.
The game sucked. I guess whatever team I root for can't score runs.
Cool moment. Trivia question about who had the most shutouts in one season. Everyone around was yelling Gooden but the guy on screen guessed Seaver. He got a prize, and then Gooden showed up to hand it to him. Great moment.
Neil Diamond offered the most interesting moment of the night. When they announced he was going to sing, I couldn't imagine a worse fit than Sweet Caroline at a New York All-Star Game. Big groan from everyone around us. But then he started singing. I never thought I would ever see Yankee fans putting up their hands to touch hands. By the chorus, lots of people were into it. And Neil was having a blast. Turns out it's a catchy-ass song and Neil is charming and oblivious. I don't know. I still couldn't get into it. Maybe if it were presented another way. If I were king, I'd have intro-d it by saying let's be classy NY and show our support for Boston. Boston Strong bla bla blah.
Nice hand for Mariano. Enter Sandman really is a fantastic song for a closer. Yankee fans irate that they would waste Mo in the 8th.
Nice performance overall by the Mets. Harvey 2 scoreless, 3K. David 1 for 3 and an A as master of ceremonies.
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Nice writeup too...interesting because on the telly is sounded like Beltran got a great hand....at the Futures game they did the same thing with the trivia, the answer was Strawberry and he greeted the winner.....very cool....yes, Wainwirght took the boos for what they were, a bit of fun.....
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Frayed Knot
Jul 17 2013 02:28 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Tried to catch Scherzer's eyes, didn't.
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No, but she did.
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MFS62
Jul 17 2013 09:45 PM
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The VYF in my office was getting on me about Harvey hitting Cano.
I told him that the only reason Harvey plunked Cano was because Jeter wasn't in the game.
Later
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