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Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar Feb 13 2012 07:16 AM

Thought we had a thread for random stuff related to the Mets not deserving of it's own thread. No? well then. Somebody printed the 2012 Yankees schedule to the printer next to me. I wrote in "L" next to all the Mets games

Ceetar Feb 13 2012 09:31 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Brian McRae capped a four-run first inning with a two-run single and Rick Reed returned from the disabled list to toss six effective innings as the New York Mets remained hot with a 5-3 victory over the Houston Astros. [url]http://web.archive.org/web/20000229233643/http://mets.com/ Trying to find out what day tickets went on sale in 2000.

Mets – Willets Point Feb 14 2012 05:10 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I miss the days when baseball teams all had their own unique websites instead of the MLB cookie cutter.

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 05:38 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

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TransMonk Feb 16 2012 11:19 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Speaking of schedules...I just printed out the 2012 Mets schedule for my office. I'm still pretty chuffed about the Mets having only 5 games with the Brewers this season. FIVE?!? Meanwhile they play 7 against Colorado, San Diego, Arizona, LA, Pittburgh and St. Louis. They play 8 against the Giants and, amazingly, 8 against Cincy...in 3 serparate series (2-game, 3-game, 3-game)! Will Houston moving over solve any of these problems?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 16 2012 12:04 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

TransMonk wrote: Speaking of schedules...I just printed out the 2012 Mets schedule for my office. I'm still pretty chuffed about the Mets having only 5 games with the Brewers this season. FIVE?!? Unless I'm mistaken, I think you're "hacked off." You'd be chuffed, say, about the Mets getting rid of the uni dropshadows this year, or having a GM with a fine sense of gallows humor.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 16 2012 12:18 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I think you're right. "Chuffed" means pleased. Trans Monk probably meant to say that he was "bonkered to the clown."

Edgy MD Feb 16 2012 12:20 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Monk knows. He's just acting the maggot.

Fman99 Feb 16 2012 12:20 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I just chuffed the clown myself. Ready for a nap.

TransMonk Feb 16 2012 12:35 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Holy show, what a thick dope I am! I think "cheesed/hacked/pissed off" is closer to what I meant.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 16 2012 12:37 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Wankel Rotary Engine.

TransMonk Feb 17 2012 01:34 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 02 2012 10:54 AM

TransMonk wrote: In other news...it doesn't look to me like MLB.TV will be available on a month-to-month subscription this season. Not a big deal...actually, it looks to be cheaper in the long run, but month-to-month always provided me the ability to cancel in August if the Mets were way behind in the standings (although, I think I only wen't through with it one season (2009) when times were tight). They have changed the subscription to also offer a monthly subscription now. I still opted for the year package as I get the spring games and free access to the Android app. I'm ready for some baseball.

metirish Feb 17 2012 01:42 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Seriously, I want to hear Monk say chuffed in his Fargo like accent......that's how you talk right? eh? acting the maggot, can't beat it

TransMonk Feb 17 2012 02:11 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

My northern-Midwest accent is plainly evident on my "a"s and "o"s, but I'm fairly confident I could pronounce "chuffed" with the best of 'em. However, I'm pretty sure my rendition of "acting the maggot" would make you smile.

Mets – Willets Point Feb 17 2012 06:10 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I still think chuffed sounds like chafed and therefore should be something unpleasant. Of course, the first time I heard "bloke" I thought it was an insult.

Fman99 Feb 21 2012 01:46 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Meh.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 21 2012 01:56 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I apparently wasn't paying attention on the day that "meh" became a word.

Ceetar Mar 29 2012 08:42 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Forgot where we were talking about this, so i'll just post it here.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 02:28 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Forgot where we were talking about this, so i'll just post it here. That's a neat one. Looks like Big Boy Duda in the on deck circle. The name of the thread that you forgot is "The Placards are Terrific". Didja see the 50th Anniversary Poster with M. Donald Grant on the left and effWilpon on the right? Or how about the one with Ollie Perez on the left and Mike Pelfrey on the right? In heavy circulation in Brooklyn is the subway poster featuring Jackie Robinson on the left and Jackie Robinson on the right.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 30 2012 05:19 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Didja see the 50th Anniversary Poster with M. Donald Grant on the left and effWilpon on the right? The first person to photoshop this idea will become an Internet SUPERSTAR.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 07:19 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

metirish Mar 30 2012 07:23 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Brilliant

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 07:35 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Do you think it'll go viral?

Ceetar Mar 30 2012 07:36 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

go tweet it and post it in an amazin' avenue fanshot and probably. hell, give it a cranepoolforum watermark too.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 07:38 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I wouldn't begin to know how to tweet it, but if you'd like to do either of the things you suggested, feel free. (But please leave off the watermark.)

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 07:40 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

The Keith/Ike poster is gone.

MFS62 Mar 30 2012 07:43 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Does Fred Wilpon ever smile? (If he does, please spare us the pics until we can get the wimmins and chilluns out of the room.) Later

Ceetar Mar 30 2012 07:49 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

MFS62 wrote: Does Fred Wilpon ever smile? (If he does, please spare us the pics until we can get the wimmins and chilluns out of the room.) Later I think there was a Post article about him smiling yesterday.

Edgy MD Mar 30 2012 08:01 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

If Wilpon was regularly smiling in public, he would only be hated more.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 30 2012 08:17 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

This is the greatest thing ever. I am dying

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 08:18 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: MFS62 wrote: Does Fred Wilpon ever smile? (If he does, please spare us the pics until we can get the wimmins and chilluns out of the room.) Later I think there was a Post article about him smiling yesterday. Because when effWilpon smiles, it's news, baby. And I can think of at least one direct descendant that inherited eff's perpetually dour mug.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 08:27 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I found it. I think Grimm cropped a sliver too much off of the (our) left, or M Donald side, of the Grant/Wilpon poster.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 08:30 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I think you're right. I'll see if I can fix that when I get the chance.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 30 2012 08:31 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

cropped:

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 08:33 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

cropped: Cropped, but not fixed.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 08:45 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 08:48 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Fixed!! (But now, not cropped).

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 08:49 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I love that some people seem to be thinking it's real.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 08:49 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

It's not?

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 12:43 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Fixed and cropped.

Mets – Willets Point Mar 30 2012 01:01 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Wouldn't Joan Payson or Lorinda DeRoulet be the more direct analogue to Fred Wilpon?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 30 2012 01:02 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I think this didn't take the Internet by storm because nobody on twitter knows what Grant really looks like. shame! @Willets: No

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 01:02 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Yes, but it wouldn't be nearly as outrageous.

Mets – Willets Point Mar 30 2012 01:03 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yes, but it wouldn't be nearly as outrageous. Yes, it's definitely more funny this way, but Grant was never principal owner of the Mets.

Mets – Willets Point Mar 30 2012 01:05 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Although a Lorinda DeRoulet/Jeff Wilpon poster could be fun.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 30 2012 01:08 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

There you go.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 01:15 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

M Donald left and Jeff Wilpon right would also work. Or an M Donald & Lorinda on the left/eff n Jeff on the right.

G-Fafif Mar 30 2012 01:17 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Benjamin Grimm wrote: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Greatest. Thing. Ever.

metirish Mar 30 2012 01:20 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

How cool would it be to make those posters and put them up around the city?

Edgy MD Mar 30 2012 01:22 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I'd prefer Bibi De Relouet and Jeff Wilpon.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 30 2012 01:26 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

metirish wrote: How cool would it be to make those posters and put them up around the city? This is what I was thinking as of a few hours ago. Not just Grant/Wilpon, but a whole ad campaign. Ebbets Field on the left/Citi Field on the right would be next.

Mets – Willets Point Mar 30 2012 01:46 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

How about Jay Horowitz on the left and Jay Horowitz on the right.

G-Fafif Mar 30 2012 01:52 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Officially requesting permission to run Don/Fred and anything else created in this thread in this vein on FAFIF two days from today.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 01:58 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Granted! Just be sure to use this version, which corrects an initial flub of mine concerning the border:

G-Fafif Mar 30 2012 02:01 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Muy gracias (or very thank you). I was looking for something for the day after March 31 and before April 2.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 02:08 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Look at some of the comments on the Facebook postings. (both on the UMDB page and in the thread started by Johnny Lunchbucket.) I think you'll find that there will be some who will believe it's real.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 30 2012 03:58 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Edgy DC wrote: I'd prefer Bibi De Relouet and Jeff Wilpon. I could go for Mettle and Jeff.

metirish Mar 30 2012 04:29 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Please make that ....

Mets – Willets Point Mar 30 2012 08:24 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Edgy DC wrote: I'd prefer Bibi De Relouet and Jeff Wilpon. Well, I expect you have personal memories of the DeRolouets whereas I'm just pulling stuff from my ass (or was it Mettle?) I was going for the "child of the principal owner who manages things incompetently" and thought Lorinda was most involved with the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 31 2012 05:19 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff Mar 31 2012 07:50 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Good one, Grimm. Here's a poster that might be tough to execute on account of the source photos perhaps not being easy to find. It's the "No More Words" poster. On the left would be sign man Karl Ehrhardt with his famous "There Are No Words" sign flashed right after the last out of the '69 series was made. On the right would be Citi Field security taking down a "Sign Reyes" sign.

metsguyinmichigan Mar 31 2012 08:17 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

The Foster Bay poster is amazing. Mike Vail and Duda in the works?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 31 2012 09:23 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Fantastic, Grimmy.

G-Fafif Apr 01 2012 12:41 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Grant and Wilpon, rightly celebrated in the spirit of their ad, here.

Ceetar Apr 03 2012 08:26 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Linked a ticket giveaway on my site to a Mets trivia question. I really didn't think it was that hard, but a lot of people aren't really paying close attention apparently. Lots of wrong answers, so.. Who was the first Mets pitcher to get a win on Opening Day?

Edgy MD Apr 03 2012 08:31 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

metsguyinmichigan wrote: The Foster Bay poster is amazing. Mike Vail and Duda in the works? We're in danger of shitting on something good, are we not?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 03 2012 09:18 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Yeah, there's no Vail/Duda in the works until and unless it becomes apparent that the comparison is apt. I'd much rather see it turn out to be Strawberry/Duda.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 03 2012 09:42 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah, there's no Vail/Duda in the works until and unless it becomes apparent that the comparison is apt. I'd much rather see it turn out to be Strawberry/Duda. Good call!

Ashie62 Apr 04 2012 09:31 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

CBS Put out their predictions for the season today. They have the Mets fifth but don't diss them. Michael Pineda & Ryan Braun picked for busts of the year. I like that at least. [url]http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/18277637/season-predictions-tigers-will-win-world-series-verlander-bags-cy

sharpie Apr 04 2012 09:52 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

are there any publications that have the Mets picked for any finish other than 5th?

Frayed Knot Apr 04 2012 11:18 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

sharpie wrote: are there any publications that have the Mets picked for any finish other than 5th? I think several picked them for sixth.

Ashie62 Apr 04 2012 05:17 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

They should have listed Bay as a candidate for comeback player of the year...

Mets – Willets Point Apr 05 2012 09:29 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Awesome of the day: Vintage Mr. Met on a bicycle.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2012 09:54 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Awesome of the day: Vintage Mr. Met on a bicycle. Mr. Met was in deep Yankee territory when he took that bicycle stroll. That's the Bronx County Supreme Courthouse on our left (Mr. Met's right). You might notice that many of the fan interviews used in the Mets highlight film of the '63 season were shot on the steps of the Bronx Courthouse. Since Mr. Met debuted in '63, maybe those fan interviews were shot on the same day depicted in the bicycle ride pic.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2012 12:11 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

The suspect is not hatless. I repeat: The suspect is not hatless. Female Suspect On L.I. Seen Wearing Mets Cap During Bank Robbery http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/04/05/ ... k-robbery/

Ceetar Apr 06 2012 10:03 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Only 6 Mets, 24% of the active roster, played in Shea Stadium as a Met. Parnell and Niese only twice. Murphy only for that last two months. Santana, Pelfrey, and Wright are the only three that even really remember 'collapsing'. When the other three showed up they were already falling down. Also means most of them don't remember the Mets being a winning team. I'm wondering if that's why people are talking about Citi Field feeling more like home. We remember Reyes and Beltran playing there, but most of these guys are Citi guys.

The Second Spitter Apr 07 2012 02:47 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Only 6 Mets, 24% of the active roster, played in Shea Stadium as a Met. Parnell and Niese only twice. Murphy only for that last two months. Santana, Pelfrey, and Wright are the only three that even really remember 'collapsing'. When the other three showed up they were already falling down. . Muffy played an integral role in this doggie doodie game. (Seriously considered giving up baseball after that game).

Benjamin Grimm Apr 07 2012 04:56 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Is that the game where Murphy led off the inning with a triple and represented the potential winning run, and the Mets couldn't get him home? I remember how deflated I was when David Wright struck out.

The Second Spitter Apr 07 2012 05:54 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Correct. His muff in LF also let the Cubs tie earlier in the game. However, my T.W.A.T Player of the Game was Ramon Castro who managed to leave 4 in scoring position in 2 ABs, including whiffing on 3 pitches to end the 9th with the bases loaded after aforementioned triple. The game was also the final nail in Duaner Sanchez's Mets career.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2012 03:03 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

That's the game I go back to again and again, it really turned me against the whole franchise. After that, it was nothing but regrettably bad ideas and bad luck, demolishing Shea, rehiring jerry and Omar, the economic collapse and madoff mess, the idiotic putz trade, the bernazard affair, the thud with which Citi field opened, etc etc.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2012 03:25 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Disappointments of 2001 triggered a lot of bad ideas also. Mo Vaughn, Art Howe, throwing Jason Bay into a deal for two ephemeral relievers, Bill Singer's nightclub act, etc. Come into the warm blue light of forgiveness.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2012 03:53 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I'm getting there but cannot forget that all the right things this group is doing right today results from leadership that basically arrived at the commissioners gunpoint, not because the owners suddenly got intelligent religion. I wouldnt put it past the Wilpons, now that the immediate crisis is over, to kick the eggheads out of office and resume their prior contempt for fans and common sense.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2012 04:19 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Like a sinner before the gates of Heaven, you'll come crawling on back to Fred.

Ceetar Apr 07 2012 04:57 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm getting there but cannot forget that all the right things this group is doing right today results from leadership that basically arrived at the commissioners gunpoint, not because the owners suddenly got intelligent religion. I wouldnt put it past the Wilpons, now that the immediate crisis is over, to kick the eggheads out of office and resume their prior contempt for fans and common sense. You can't ignore that Murphy, Tejada, Nieuwenhuis, Ike, Duda, Thole (extension for Wright) Pelfrey, Gee, Niese, Parnell and even Harvey and Familia and Mejia are all the previous administrations work.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2012 11:13 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Better off just flat stating outright that this is still pretty much Omar's team.

The Second Spitter Apr 07 2012 11:38 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Edgy DC wrote: Disappointments of 2001 triggered a lot of bad ideas also. Mo Vaughn, Art Howe, throwing Jason Bay into a deal for two ephemeral relievers, Bill Singer's nightclub act, etc. Come into the warm blue light of forgiveness. If anything the present climate feels more like the early Duquette era.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2012 05:30 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I wasn't slamming the personnel so much as the fact that the organization impeded its progress by thinking we wouldn't notice they were also doing dumb shit just for show, getting raped in trades, giving away idiotic contracts, and counting money it hadn't earned from a stadium designed to appeal to the 1% The Wilpons so wanted to be.

Ceetar Apr 08 2012 05:51 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I wasn't slamming the personnel so much as the fact that the organization impeded its progress by thinking we wouldn't notice they were also doing dumb shit just for show, getting raped in trades, giving away idiotic contracts, and counting money it hadn't earned from a stadium designed to appeal to the 1% The Wilpons so wanted to be. well I think everything was compounded by bad timing and a confluence of events of Madoff, the economy, investing in a new stadium at that exact time, and suddenly being struck with the injury bug. (because winning seasons even would've mitigated most of that) Contracts like Bay and Perez don't look so bad if they even got half the value from them and the payroll is 40 more.

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2012 06:25 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Contracts like Bay and Perez don't look so bad if they even got half the value from them and the payroll is 40 more. The Bay signing reeked of exactly what Bucket is talking about. They signed the second -[crossout]most expensive[/crossout] best OF FA available that year, despite Bay's history of injuries and incongruous career development in the middle of the steroid era.

Ceetar Apr 08 2012 06:38 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

The Second Spitter wrote: Ceetar wrote: Contracts like Bay and Perez don't look so bad if they even got half the value from them and the payroll is 40 more. The Bay signing reeked of what exactly Bucket is talking about. They signed the second -[crossout]most expensive[/crossout] best OF FA available that year, despite Bay's history of injuries and incongruous career development in the middle of the steroid era. The middle of the steroid era? Minor league drug testing started in 2001, Bay was drafted in 2000. Major League drug testing started 2004, Bay came up in 2003. He had good years right before getting to the Mets. I don't buy arguments (And I've seen them) that he stopped using something undetectable after inking the deal. The deal made sense, Holliday was too big a contract, and Bay definitely could've provided power in an otherwise good lineup that needed a little more SLG. His contract is barely prohibitive to what was a 140 million dollar club, even if he was only smacking half the home runs of previous years. Yeah, you wouldn't get return on investment, but it's suppy/demand and that was tone of the sureer option to get the power the Mets needed/wanted. Addressing 2010 with just hope that the injuries of 2009 and David Wright's power slump were behind them would've been worse.

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2012 07:29 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: The middle of the steroid era? Minor league drug testing started in 2001, Bay was drafted in 2000. Major League drug testing started 2004, Bay came up in 2003. Were people getting banned for steroids in 03? Look at Bay's minor league numbers and his RoY numbers in 2003 and tell me that was a normal career path. Also, see how many of his Pirate teammates were on the gas. Ceetar wrote: He had good years right before getting to the Mets. I don't buy arguments (And I've seen them) that he stopped using something undetectable after inking the deal. Like I've said before, you can retain the benefits of steroids for 1-2 years after you stopped using them. However, everything catches up to you with a vengeance , especially if you're sidelined with the type of injury Bay had. Funny how the Red Sox didn't want to touch him with a ten-foot pole. Ceetar wrote: The deal made sense, Holliday was too big a contract, Too long for a guy who's averaged ~160 OPS for the Cardinals? Do you think the Cardinals have received value for it?

Ceetar Apr 08 2012 07:36 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

In terms of the Mets, I'm glad we don't have Matt Holliday right now given where the team has gone. It'd be a worse drain on the Mets. What's wrong with his numbers? they look pretty standard minor-major numbers, his Rookie of the Year numbers weren't even his best couple of years, and except for the drop off in 2007, he'd been very steady. Until 2010 when he got to the Mets/Citi Field/they changed the maximum bat diameter rules. And I don't think that last one should be ignored either. I doubt he was taking and then stopped taking. You can use that same argument to infer that Jeter and Mariano were/are using (mid-late 90s Yankees when they came in? yeah) or pretty much everyone that played the game in the last 20 years.

Ceetar Apr 16 2012 01:26 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

the next t-shirt Tuesday.

Fman99 Apr 16 2012 08:07 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Wow, I am watching the post game with Carlin and Ojeda and they are standing up, away from the desk. Carlin has a tremendous sized head. He looks like a giant pile of mashed potatoes wearing a suit.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2012 02:25 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

In celebration of the Mets 50th anniversary, this year's ticket faces feature a player/executive/announcer from the team's historic past. Each game ticket features a different Met person for the most part; Gil Hodges and Casey Stengel are repeated. Tom Seaver appeared on the game #1 ticket face. Gary Carter appears on the game #8 ticket face. Some other Mets appearing on this year's tickets that weren't, as far as I'm concerned, automatic or obvious choices choices, are Todd Zeile, Turk Wendell, Benny Agbayani, and Billy Wagner. Jose Reyes, last year's batting champ, was excluded.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2012 02:29 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

There's a George Theodore ticket (Game #11) -- good choice -- , but no Marv Throneberry ticket (an unfortunate omission). This time, the Mets dropped the ball on ol' Marvelous.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 17 2012 02:29 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Wagner is a crime. Wagner. Geez.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2012 02:30 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wagner is a crime. Wagner. Geez. Glavine got a ticket, also.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 17 2012 02:31 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wagner is a crime. Wagner. Geez. Glavine got a ticket, also. Of course. They're probably Fred's mystery investors.

Chad Ochoseis Apr 17 2012 02:36 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I'm good with not including Reyes, Beltran, or any other currently active ex-Met. Do we really want to honor players who are playing against us this year? Glavine got a ticket, also. This isn't true. This is just batmags taking the piss. Right? RIGHT???

Benjamin Grimm Apr 17 2012 02:37 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Did they do one for M. Donald Grant?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2012 02:40 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Chad Ochoseis wrote: I'm good with not including Reyes, Beltran, or any other currently active ex-Met. Do we really want to honor players who are playing against us this year? Glavine got a ticket, also. This isn't true. This is just batmags taking the piss. Right? RIGHT??? I do take a lot of pisses that go uncredited. Or unnoticed. But there's Glavine's mug on the game #44 ticket. If the Mets were cool kats, they might've farmed out the ticket production to Topps.

seawolf17 Apr 17 2012 05:37 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I need to know what date the McReynolds ticket is so I can obtain one.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2012 06:10 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: There's a George Theodore ticket (Game #11) -- good choice -- , but no Marv Throneberry ticket (an unfortunate omission). This time, the Mets dropped the ball on ol' Marvelous. Looks like I dropped the ball. Marv lives! He's on the game #80 ticket. KMac is on the game #13 ticket (4/26 v Miami). And Case and Gil appear once each. This blogger's got a list of the tickets, (scroll about halfway down the page) along with some snarky, and often odd comments.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 17 2012 06:12 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

seawolf17 wrote: I need to know what date the McReynolds ticket is so I can obtain one. Bring Vic to that game.

Ceetar Apr 17 2012 06:59 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Mets – Willets Point wrote: seawolf17 wrote: I need to know what date the McReynolds ticket is so I can obtain one. Bring Vic to that game. Might have trouble with that. Probably gotta use seatcrew or craigslist or one of those other non-electronic trading systems.

seawolf17 Apr 17 2012 07:14 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I'll take it postgame if need be; don't need to be there, really mostly need it for the McReynolds collection.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2012 08:16 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Topps also printed the Reds 2010 tickets.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2012 07:24 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: There's a George Theodore ticket (Game #11) -- good choice -- , but no Marv Throneberry ticket (an unfortunate omission). This time, the Mets dropped the ball on ol' Marvelous. Looks like I dropped the ball. Marv lives! He's on the game #80 ticket. KMac is on the game #13 ticket (4/26 v Miami). And Case and Gil appear once each. This blogger's got a list of the tickets, (scroll about halfway down the page) along with some snarky, and often odd comments. I think that the most glaring Mets omission on their 50th ann. ticket faces, among inactive or retired players, is the almost always unloved Armando Benitez. I wonder if Armando's exclusion is a sign that McDowell's gonna be selected as the Mets all-time RH reliever on the Mets 50th ann. all-time team? If I had a vote, I'da wanted Delgado, and the Hendus - Steve and Rickey on a ticket face. Eddie Murray, Bernard Gilkey, Endy and Skip Lockwood too, among others. I wouldn'ta put Teufel or Zeile or Hampton or Shamsky or Wendell or Glavine or Lance Johnson over the last guys on my list.

HahnSolo Apr 18 2012 09:30 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Trachsel, Hampton, Glavine, and Wagner are my WTFs. Teufel as well, but I guess they threw him a bone for his time in organization and on coaching staff. Batmags is right. Where the hell is Delgado? I mean, three of the guys I listed were '06 Mets...Does Carlos not merit being right there, if not before those guys, then alongside them?

Mets – Willets Point Apr 18 2012 09:37 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I know a place where one could find the 81 greatest Mets of all time. Or would be able to if the current list were up to date and posted.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2012 09:37 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I wonder if the younger Mets fan know just how magical Steve Hendu's rookie season was? It seems to me that over the years, Hendu's Met legacy has been condensed to his walkoff against SanFran and being one of the rejects gotten in the Seaver trade.

Ceetar Apr 18 2012 09:47 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I wonder if the younger Mets fan know just how magical Steve Hendu's rookie season was? It seems to me that over the years, Hendu's Met legacy has been condensed to his walkoff against SanFran and being one of the rejects gotten in the Seaver trade. I'm going to go with no.

G-Fafif Apr 18 2012 09:54 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

The full list, from that blog: 1. Tom Seaver 2. John Olerud 3. Roger Craig 4. Felix Millan 5. David Wright 6. Dave Kingman 7. Jerry Koosman 8. Gary Carter 9. Lee Mazzilli 10. Al Jackson 11. George Theodore 12. Rick Reed 13. Kevin McReynolds 14. Gil Hodges 15. Rusty Staub 16. Jesse Orosco 17. Bob Murphy 18. Bobby Jones 19. Robin Ventura 20. Lance Johnson 21. Ron Darling 22. Yogi Berra 23. John Franco 24. Willie Mays 25. Mookie Wilson 26. Nolan Ryan 27. Benny Agbayani 28. Bobby Ojeda 29. Cleon Jones 30. Craig Swan 31. Mike Piazza 32. Al Weis 33. Mike Hampton 34. Keith Hernandez 35. Frank Thomas 36. Jon Matlack 37. Casey Stengel 38. Donn Clendeno 39. Roger McDowell 40. Ed Kranepool 41. Ralph Kiner 42. Wally Backman 43. Ed Charles 44. Tom Glavine 45. Ron Swoboda 46. Billy Wagner 47. Rey Ordonez 48. Sid Fernandez 49. Jerry Grote 50. Joel Youngblood 51. Dwight Gooden 52. Bobby Valentine 53. Frank Viola 54. Al Leiter 55. Howard Johnson 56. Tommie Agee 57. Johan Santana 58. Ron Hunt 59. David Cone 60. Pedro Martinez 61. Lindsey Nelson 62. Jay Hook 63. Tim Teufel 64. Bill Shea 65. Ray Knight 66. Todd Zeile 67. Bud Harrelson 68. John Stearns 69. Jim Hickman 70. Edgardo Alfonzo 71. Art Shamsky 72. Lenny Dykstra 73. Tug McGraw 74. Todd Hundley 75. Darryl Strawberry 76. Wayne Garrett 77. Steve Trachsel 78. Davey Johnson 79. John Milner 80. Marv Throneberry 81. Turk Wendell

seawolf17 Apr 18 2012 10:48 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ooh, that's next week. Gotta get cracking on that. Tweeted.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 22 2012 09:00 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

After 14 games, only one player has started every game for the Mets: Daniel Murphy. Murphy, Duda, and Davis are the only players who have appeared in each game.

Ceetar Apr 29 2012 02:16 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Mets – Willets Point Apr 29 2012 06:07 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

R.A. Dickey's outfit for the flight to Houston:

batmagadanleadoff May 07 2012 10:13 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

The San Francisco 49ers officially announced plans to create a physical home for the Edward J. DeBartolo, Sr. 49ers Hall of Fame with approximately 15,000 square feet of space earmarked at the new Santa Clara stadium. The 49ers former public relations director, Jerry Walker, has returned to the club as Team Archivist and will spend the next two years acquiring artifacts over the history of the franchise. According to the 49ers, the team is looking for donations and loans of nearly anything vintage such as game and practice apparel, fan clothing, printed materials like posters, programs, and magazines, collectibles, memorabilia, souvenirs, photos and videos, and really anything that might be attractive for the Hall of Fame. Walker also announced that the team's extravagant vision for their Hall of Fame will unfortunately delay the finish of the Jackie Robinson Wing. 49ers fans can expect the Robinson Wing to be completed in time for the opening of the 49ers second season in the new stadium. If you are interested in potentially donating or loaning anything to the 49ers Hall of Fame, you can email Jerry Walker at Jerry.Walker@49ers.com. If you do donate anything, let me know and we'll get some pictures up. http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/5/7/30 ... -artifacts 15,000 square feet? I'm jealous. Mets fan have a HOF tiny enough that 15,000 of them could probably be squeezed into the Jackie Robinson Rotunda.

Benjamin Grimm May 08 2012 08:48 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ashie62 May 08 2012 08:57 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Very nice..I'm still calling it Shea.

Ceetar May 08 2012 09:09 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Benjamin Grimm wrote: pretty sure Pink is playing both sides of the fence.

metsmarathon May 08 2012 10:09 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

she can play my side of the fnece any time she wants to

Fman99 May 08 2012 10:11 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'd like to see her pink.

Mets – Willets Point May 08 2012 10:13 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Grimm's post and all the response to it are blank for me.

Ceetar May 08 2012 10:14 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Grimm's post and all the response to it are blank for me. it's a victoria secret ad.

batmagadanleadoff May 13 2012 09:38 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ceetar wrote: Carlos Beltran has 2 homers and 7 RBIs and IT'S THE FOURTH INNING he didn't add too much more, just a couple hits. 4/5 on the night, but that's pretty neat. (off A.J. Burnett) Selected stats for Beltran and NL rank. He's MVP caliber, so far. HR's 7 (2nd T) RC27 8.03 (6th) RC 19 (6th) OPS .933 (10th) OBP .398 (8th) BB's 16 (7th) Power-Speed 5.8 (1st) Off. Win % .759 (8th) RBI 18 (7th) Beltran's hit five more HR's since I wrote the quoted post above, a week and a half ago. If Beltran keeps it up, this Wheeler kid better turn out to be a good one.

Gwreck May 13 2012 12:55 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

For measurement purposes, Beltran's production vis-a-vis Wheeler's ends at the end of 2011. The Mets could've had Beltran back in 2012 if they wanted.

Ceetar May 22 2012 07:54 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Tuesday Next.

HahnSolo May 22 2012 07:56 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I didn't even know there was a Chicago Bull mascot.

Mets – Willets Point May 26 2012 12:27 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

A Year To Remember.

The Second Spitter May 26 2012 11:19 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Fred was partially right.....and Omar was a little useless.... I break down the above list as follows: We are not surrounded by illustrious company.

Ceetar May 27 2012 08:40 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

missed this one from Cowboy day. Josh Lewin wrote: The rootinest' tootinest dang broadcast booth this side of the pecos. #wfan #mets #hopalongmajkowski yfrog.com/g07eouyj

Valadius May 28 2012 05:32 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Go see Men in Black 3. Will Smith's character goes back in time to 1969. I won't say any more.

bmfc1 Jun 01 2012 09:22 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Valadius wrote: Go see Men in Black 3. Will Smith's character goes back in time to 1969. I won't say any more. Absolutely. Good movie--and a must for every Mets fan.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2012 03:25 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Some week. The Mets unfurl their first Banner Day in over 15 years; go 5-2 in their last seven games - four of the five wins are complete game shutouts; see the first player in franchise history whose last name starts with "Q"; have a fringe starter who's on the team only because of several injuries to others crush a no doubt about it HR in his 2nd ML start ... a HR that would've cleared the wall in old cavernous Citi Field; a knuckleballer who was hanging on for his baseball life a few years ago continue his run of domination of historic magnitude and hurl himself into the forefront of the Cy Young award race; and then the no-hitter. Johan will no doubt be the second straight Met to win the NL Player of the Week Award. And for the first time this season, ESPN's playoff odds now calculates that the Mets are likelier to make the playoffs than the Philadelphia Phillies. <----------- Look who I am be.

Edgy MD Jun 03 2012 04:01 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Nickeas hits a grand slam and gets shipped out. Baxter saves a no-hitter and hits the DL. Nobody leaves the room until he makes a memory indelible enough to at least earn him a share of the post-season pie.

Ceetar Jun 03 2012 05:04 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Edgy DC wrote: Nickeas hits a grand slam and gets shipped out. Baxter saves a no-hitter and hits the DL. Nobody leaves the room until he makes a memory indelible enough to at least earn him a share of the post-season pie. Nickeas didn't go anywhere. I'm not sure Rob Johnson had any real delible contribution.

Mets – Willets Point Jun 10 2012 10:29 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

86 World Series Game 6 recreated by Kenyan students. [youtube:asq8ulua]1Eksrw4QSSs[/youtube:asq8ulua]

MFS62 Jun 11 2012 09:55 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

They did such a good job reenacting it that it makes me wonder - did Mookie miss first base? Later

batmagadanleadoff Jun 11 2012 01:22 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Jay Jaffe's sensible and even-keeled state of the Mets, written right after the third game of the St. Looey series, which includes more on the Mets run differential and close game outcomes. Mets’ moment in the sun may not last Johan Santana’s no-hitter on Friday night was the biggest story of the Mets’ weekend, given both the pitcher’s comeback and the franchise’s lack of a no-no in its first half century, but Saturday and Sunday were pretty good, too. Behind R.A. Dickey’s shutout on Saturday and Jon Niese’s career-high 10 strikeouts on Sunday, the Mets held the Cardinals — who came into the series as the NL’s highest-scoring team — to one run in the first three games of their four-game wraparound series that concludes Monday afternoon. In doing so, they moved into a three-way tie atop the NL East. They shouldn’t get too comfortable there. Even by beating the Cardinals by a combined score of 19-1, the Mets’ run differential for the season is ?6 runs; they’ve been outscored 245-239, though their record is 31-23. No team in either league has outdistanced their expected (Pythagorean) record by a wider margin than their 5.1 wins, or posted a better winning percentage in one- and two-run games than their .727 (on a 16-6 record). And perhaps none has outdistanced its preseason expectations than the team that began the year under one of the darkest financial clouds in recent memory, not to mention the indignity of losing free agent Jose Reyes, the franchise’s marquee player, to the division-rival Marlins. Despite the weekend’s lockdown of the NL’s top offense, run prevention has been the Mets’ weak spot. Their 4.54 runs per game allowed is the league’s third-worst, but that’s not all on the pitching staff. Rather, their ranking parallels their 14th-ranked defensive efficiency (their rate of turning batted balls into outs); their .676 mark is 14 points below the league average. That showing may reflect the cost of making offense-first decisions at second base (Daniel Murphy) or having them made for them by injuries (Kirk Nieuwenhuis for Andres Torres in centerfield, several players for Ruben Tejada at shortstop). Fortunately, the staff’s 8.2 strikeouts per nine is third in the league, minimizing the number of balls in play, and their other peripherals are closer to average. The rotation has been better than expected, buoyed by the return of Santana (2.38 ERA, 9.0 strikeouts per nine) and sterling work from Dickey (2.69 ERA, 8.6 strikeouts per nine, and a league-best 91 percent quality start rate), both of which have helped offset the loss of Mike Pelfrey to Tommy John surgery. Niese (9.0 K/9 and Dillon Gee (8.1 K/9) have both missed bats as well, but inflated home run rates have driven their ERAs above 4.00. In all, the unit’s 61 percent quality start rate is tied for fourth, while their Fair Run Average (runs per nine, adjusted for defense and bullpen support) is seventh at 4.34. The bullpen has been the bigger problem; its 4.60 Fair Run Average ranks 13th, as does its 35 percent rate of allowing inherited runners to score. That said, closer Frank Francisco hasn’t been as bad as his 5.82 ERA suggests; he has converted 14 of 16 save opportunities despite being scorched for a .383 BABIP, and his FRA is just 2.64. He’s one of four Mets relievers with a BABIP above .350, along with Manny Acosta, Ramon Ramirez and Bobby Parnell. On the other side of the ball, even given injuries to Torres and Jason Bay — two-thirds of their starting outfield — and a dreadful slump from Ike Davis, the offense’s 4.43 runs per game ranks fourth in the NL. That’s driven by a .336 on-base percentage, the league’s third-best mark — itself a combination of a .323 batting average on balls in play (fifth in the league, nine points above average) and an 8.4 percent unintentional walk rate (both tops in the league); meanwhile, their .392 slugging percentage is 10th. In other words, it’s patience and a bit of hit-’em-where-they-ain’t luck, particularly with runners in scoring position, where their .264/.359/.409 line has been good for the league’s third-best OPS, helped along by a .319 BABIP, 34 points above average in that situation. Leading the offensive charge has been David Wright, who ranks second in the National League in on-base percentage (.468), third in batting average (.363), and eighth in slugging percentage (.581) — marks much closer to his career line (.303/.384/.511) than last year’s disappointing performance (.254/.345/.427), which wasn’t helped by his missing two months with a stress fracture in his back. His 3.1 Wins Above Replacement Player is not only second in the league, it’s more than three times the value of last season’s mark. Wright has gotten the most help from Nieuwenhuis (.301/.366/.405), Murphy (.307/.359/.390), and shortstop Ruben Tejada (.305/.362/.400), little of it expected at the outset. Nieuwenhuis, a 24-year-old rookie, has filled in admirably for Torres and Bay, first after the former strained a quad on opening day and missed more than three weeks, and then after the latter broke a rib when he tried to make a diving catch on April 24. Manager Terry Collins will have to find Nieuwenheis playing time once Bay (.240/.316/.460) returns from a rehab assignment, perhaps as soon as this weekend. Tejada is on the DL as well due to a quad strain, but the oft-injured Murphy has been a lineup mainstay, starting 49 games (tied for the team high with Wright). One way that Collins could fit Bay and Nieuwenhuis into the lineup would be to bench or farm out Davis, who is hitting just .166/.230/.284, and to play rightfielder Lucas Duda at first base. The book appears to be out on the 25-year-old Davis, who was limited to 36 games last year due to an ankle injury; he’s seeing fewer fastballs than any hitter this side of Bryce Harper, and is flailing at breaking balls outside of the strike zone as he struggles to control his long swing. A minor league stint would appear to be in order (he has options remaining), and while Collins has said the team has no plans to ship him out, the brass may have to reconsider. Such a move could help the defense as well, since a variety of defensive metrics agree that Davis has been subpar at first, while Duda has been brutal in the outfield. The Mets’ run differential and record in close games both suggest the team’s ride at or near the top of the NL East will eventually come to an end. Even after St. Louis leaves town their next 18 games come against teams with winning records, namely the Nationals, Yankees, Rays, Reds and Orioles. But for a team that most expected to finish the year in the basement, and perhaps up for sale, this weekend’s triumphs are worth savoring. http://mlb.si.com/2012/06/04/mets-momen ... -not-last/

Ceetar Jun 13 2012 09:34 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I just thought this was interesting. Mike Groppuso created a twitter account and only has one tweet: to Dave Hudgens Mike Groppuso ?@mgropjr @dmhudgens Hey Hudge. Its Mike Groppuso trying to reaching out to you. First time twitter so l dont know if l did this right.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2012 07:44 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I never know what's going on in this thread, but a national media offering praise for the Mets' medical staff seems somewhat remarkable.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 05 2012 11:38 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Jon Niese's last six starts: 1.74 ERA; 1.089 WHIP.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2012 08:52 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Baseball card blog I stumbled on in a stream of consciousness free flowing web surfing session. It's got a Mets bent. http://whomadethegrade.blogspot.com/

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2012 09:30 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

One more Mets baseball card blog -- Mets 360 card of the week (http://mets360.com/?cat=708) -- and two snipped and flickred entries:

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2012 09:51 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

From Mets 360 Card of the Week -- the '71 Boswell Topps that Lunchie dated, and the '71 Maxvill doppelganger http://mets360.com/?p=5787

Zvon Jul 08 2012 11:07 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Baseball card blog I stumbled on in a stream of consciousness free flowing web surfing session. It's got a Mets bent. http://whomadethegrade.blogspot.com/ Totally enjoyed reading this blog page. ty.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2012 11:50 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Dueling Fregosis: http://whomadethegrade.blogspot.com/ This card represents layers of missed opportunities. If you're a Mets' fan, the top layer is obviously the very fact of the trade. The team relinquished the eventual all-time strikeout king and author of 7 no-hitters for 364 Jim Fregosi at bats. 5 HRs, 43 RBI, and a .233 average later, Fregosi was sold to Texas. The truly surreal thing about the trade is that Nolan Ryan was part of a package of four players that the Mets shipped to the Angels in the deal. Is it any wonder that Nolan put the no no-no hoodoo on the Mets in return? Another key missed opportunity here is the Topps layer. The 1972 Traded subset adds extra flavor to the high-number series. The removal of the team name from the marquee and the blocky “TRADED” stamp are great design elements, and the initial run of players is pretty unbeatable: Carlton, Morgan, McLain, Frank Robinson... But then Fregosi breaks the spell, and things wind down with Wise and Cardenas. And believe it or not, this is actually Fregosi's third card in the 1972 Topps set. He appears as an Angel on #115, then as a Metropolitan in a boyhood photo on #346, and finally on this Traded card. Ryan, on the other hand appears once, as an airbrushed Angel on card #595. In the 1972 set in my mind, there is a Mets' Ryan card in series 1 or 2, and a Traded card picturing him as an Angel in the last series... ______________________________________ http://mets360.com/?p=7436 1972 TOPPS TRADED JIM FREGOSI Right now everyone’s mind is on the trade deadline so what better time to break out this classic Topps card with TRADED bolded and stamped across the groin of poor Jim Fregosi. This was one of seven cards in the last series of the 1972 set to be so branded. When Topps released cards in series, the last series came out when the season was more than half over and we had already seen more than enough of Mr. Fregosi at that point (and heard what Nolan Ryan did in the other league) to want any part of this card. To a young Mets fan, let’s call him me, Topps had three choices for a TRADED card for this set and picked the worst one. There had been no Rusty Staub card in the set, surely he should have been the choice. It’s impossible to explain nearly 40 years later how much I wanted to see Staub in a Mets card. But there was no card of him in either ’72 or ’73. Most likely this was due to a monetary dispute with Topps but as far as I know the complete story of why has never been published. So, Rusty, if you’re reading this drop me a line and let me know. Did they just forget? Did they lowball you? Were you going to start your own trading card set? Was the photographer someone you hated? Or was it just an elaborate joke on your part? If it wasn’t Staub, then it had to be Willie Mays. It was such a huge deal when Mays came back to New York. Of course now everyone will tell you that Mays embarrassed himself with his play with the Mets. Let me go all caps here and throw in a swear word for extra emphasis: THIS IS SIMPLY NOT F!@#$%G TRUE! In his first 53 games with the Mets, Mays went .283/.432/.467 for an .899 OPS. He finished the ’72 season with an .848 OPS with New York, which was good for a 145 OPS+. Mays was still great – he just needed more days off at age 41 then Yogi Berra and the Mets were willing to give him. But it seems likely that Mays was not included in this TRADED set as he was dealt during the 1972 season (May 11th). The seven players in this subset were dealt in the offseason or Spring Training. The latest transaction involved Denny McLain, who was dealt by the Rangers to the A’s on March 4th. And so it became Fregosi. I was so thrilled with this that I took scissors to my copy of this card and winded up spending decades before finally acquiring a clean version for my set. While Ryan quickly became a star, Fregosi merely became a stiff, another in a long line of third basemen who failed for the team. Yet, it wasn’t his fault. Let’s start by reading the sponsorship of Fregosi at his Baseball-Reference page. “The best Major League shortstop from 1961-79, and most productive expansion-draft pick ever. Injuries prevented a Hall of Fame career.” Now this probably says as much about the quality of SS in this era as it does about Fregosi, but we should remember he was an outstanding player from 1963-1970, when he posted a 7.4 fWAR. In 1971, Fregosi developed foot problems which would plague him the rest of his career. And then he broke his thumb in Spring Training with the Mets in ’72. When he got on the field, Fregosi got off to a hot start with the Mets, as he posted a .306/.376/.510 line over his first 26 games. But it was all downhill from there. He didn’t produce and he didn’t seem to care. Later Fregosi allegedly said he was going to write a book and had the title: The Bases Were Loaded and So Was I. The funny thing in remembering the Fregosi trade is that at the time fans were at least as much worried about losing another player in the deal – Leroy Stanton – as they were Ryan. There wasn’t anywhere near as much publicity surrounding minor leaguers then as there is now, so chances are if you had heard of a guy in the minors, he was a pretty good prospect. Stanton had a .324/.374/.540 line at Triple-A in 1971. But that year the Mets had Cleon Jones, Tommie Agee and Ken Singleton in the outfield in the majors and there was apparently nowhere on the roster for Stanton. He ended up being a solid major league player but never developed into a star with the Angels. Overall, he played nine seasons in the majors. Anyway, maybe we should hold out hope that when the Mets trade Carlos Beltran that in return they’ll get a future HOFer and a guy who plays nine seasons in the majors. It’s good to have hope, sometimes that’s all you’ve got. Now let’s just all wish that we don’t have to see Beltran with a large TRADED stamp across his chest.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 09 2012 11:55 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I made this card in February 2008, right after the big trade. The photo is of Johan as a Twin, but I Photoshopped a Mets cap on his head:

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2012 01:39 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Was reminded recently that Wright's last HR helped 5 to overtake 18 in all-time HRs by uni number. No. 5 now trails only 20, which is currently unoccupied, 388-378.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2012 01:51 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I went to MBTN to peek at the list of Mets who wore number 5 as I was completely drawing a blank on previous 5's, other than Davey Johnson. I should have remember Olerud, but I was really surprised about Steve Henderson. I had no recollection that he was a 5. If somebody had asked me his number, I would have been dumbfounded to realize that I had no idea. I'm no longer good at retaining current uniform numbers (Dillon Gee? No idea! John Maine? Can't recall!) but back then I knew that stuff cold. I can't believe that at some point my brain decided that Steve Henderson's uniform number was no longer important.

Edgy MD Jul 10 2012 02:01 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Others of the top of my head; Ed Charles, Mark Johnson, Mike Howard, Chico Escuela.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2012 02:02 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I'm getting worse as I age. Gee is 35. Maine 33.

Ceetar Jul 10 2012 02:16 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I've always been bad with numbers. But I made a sporcle quiz. here you go. [url]http://www.sporcle.com/games/Ceetar/2012-mets-uniform-numbers

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2012 02:26 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I got 17 right. I had no idea for Niese, Parnell, Rauch, Beato, Byrdak, Batista, Quintanilla, and Torres. I got Justin Turner and Kirk Nieuwenhuis' numbers by accident, because I must have been too slow in typing Ike Davis' number, but I would have known both of those anyway. It seems like I do a lot better with position players than pitchers.

Ceetar Jul 10 2012 02:28 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

is 1 minute good or is that too fast?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2012 02:29 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

It seemed reasonable.

Ceetar Jul 10 2012 02:31 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

btw I roughly clocked myself at 18 while making the quiz. I got all the position players except Torres, missed most of the relievers and a couldn't remember which number Gee and Niese were.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 10 2012 02:40 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

This is a coincidence. A few of us were playing Mets trivia last week and one of my friends asked the others to name as many Mets as we could that wore #5. I won that one easily. I named almost 10 Mets before anyone else could name even one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2012 06:10 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Got all but 4, only held up on Batista, didn't get to the last 3 on time.

Ceetar Jul 20 2012 02:58 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

It was 'reported' that Mets-Yankees could be home and home 2-2 series, but that's not entirely true. It can either be 2-2, or just 3. Unless the Mets are playing the AL East that year, and then it can be 3-3. (1) There will be no more than 20 Interleague games. The bulk of Interleague play will be based on a rotating division format, but may include no more than one series against a prime inter-league rival unless they play two two-game series. In the years when the corresponding divisions are scheduled for Interleague play, two series of three or fewer games against the prime inter-league rival may be played.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 24 2012 11:37 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Here’s a photo of the Mets latest program, featuring the obligatory David Wright cover shot. I’ve got nothing against promoting the face of the franchise, but it’d be nice to see Dickey make the program cover just once. He’s been the team’s best pitcher throughout his entire Mets stint and even Turner and Gee made scorecard covers recently. Jon Niese made the cover twice in the last 12 months. There's still two months left in this season, and presumably, two more scorecards for release.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2012 11:39 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Yeah, because if there's one thing Read About-me Dickey needs, it's more attention.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 28 2012 06:57 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

R.I.P. Marylou Belles of Bethel, Connecticut, whose obituary reads, in part: "She was also a lifelong NY Mets fan though surprisingly, that wasn't what killed her." http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-t ... blame-team

batmagadanleadoff Jul 28 2012 07:13 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

This may not be as prestigious as landing the cover of a national news magazine, or even a Mets program, but it's a start.

The Second Spitter Jul 30 2012 06:36 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Only 6 Mets, 24% of the active roster, played in Shea Stadium as a Met. Parnell and Niese only twice. Murphy only for that last two months. Santana, Pelfrey, and Wright are the only three that even really remember 'collapsing'. When the other three showed up they were already falling down. . Muffy played an integral role in this doggie doodie game. (Seriously considered giving up baseball after that game). That's the game I go back to again and again, it really turned me against the whole franchise. After that, it was nothing but regrettably bad ideas and bad luck, demolishing Shea, rehiring jerry and Omar, the economic collapse and madoff mess, the idiotic putz trade, the bernazard affair, the thud with which Citi field opened, etc etc. I was going through an old hard drive and managed to find a vid of Bucket and Ceetar sitting next to each other at said game:

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 06:51 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Nice. Unflappable Met Fan should be a meme.

Ceetar Jul 30 2012 07:02 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

nah, I don't smile.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2012 09:34 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Does anybody here really think that the choice seats at Citi Field, field level at and around home plate are mostly sold out, as the Mets claim? Those sections are way too empty, too often, for the Mets' claims to hold any water. And if the Mets really did sell out (or mostly sell out) all of their choice seats, why the hell are they running ads for the Champions Club with the all you can eat buffet, like every two or three innings on every SNY broadcast?

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 09:46 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Does anybody here really think that the choice seats at Citi Field, field level at and around home plate are mostly sold out, as the Mets claim? Those sections are way too empty, too often, for the Mets' claims to hold any water. And if the Mets really did sell out (or mostly sell out) all of their choice seats, why the hell are they running ads for the Champions Club with the all you can eat buffet, like every two or three innings on every SNY broadcast? Champions Clubs are different seats. and yes. I do. despite what the media tells you, the club (and other clubs) don't actually care if those seats look empty on TV. These are the rich people seats. They leave early, they come late. They eat tickets when the team sucks and they're busy. They hang out in the Sterling Club in the air conditioning. They give away the tickets as perks, to people that rarely ever get to sit down there, that want to check out the Sterling Club while they have the option to. And those people probably deserve at least part of the blame for not being able to go behind the dugouts to watch batting practice.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2012 09:55 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Does anybody here really think that the choice seats at Citi Field, field level at and around home plate are mostly sold out, as the Mets claim? Those sections are way too empty, too often, for the Mets' claims to hold any water. And if the Mets really did sell out (or mostly sell out) all of their choice seats, why the hell are they running ads for the Champions Club with the all you can eat buffet, like every two or three innings on every SNY broadcast? Champions Clubs are different seats. and yes. I do. despite what the media tells you, the club (and other clubs) don't actually care if those seats look empty on TV. These are the rich people seats. They leave early, they come late. They eat tickets when the team sucks and they're busy. They hang out in the Sterling Club in the air conditioning. They give away the tickets as perks, to people that rarely ever get to sit down there, that want to check out the Sterling Club while they have the option to. What's different about Champions Club seats? They're choice seats, close behind home plate more or less, and among the most expensive at CF. From first hand experience, (but not as a rich master of the universe, I regret) I disagree with your characterization of what those "rich" owners do with their seats, and how it explains swaths of virtually empty choice seating. You're just repeating a stereotype. Are you saying that if you were gifted a pair of field level seats 75 feet from home plate, you wouldn't sit in them? Ceetar wrote: And those people probably deserve at least part of the blame for not being able to go behind the dugouts to watch batting practice. Nah. That's on the Mets.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2012 10:10 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

OE -- There's some truth to what you wrote. I'm not dismissing it outright. But there's also, I think, a lot of urban legend to your post, and it doesn't account for the level of vacancy you see in those choice sections at CF, game after game after game. Even when Dickey pitches. By contrast, ticket prices for seats in the section behind home plate underneath the netting at Shea Stadium reached prohibitively expensive levels by the late 1990's. And those sections were never as empty as the choice sections at CF. Not even during the Art Howe years.

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 10:18 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I'd definitely get up and check out the club (sorry, it 's the Delta Sky _Lounge_ not Club. I've been to the Club, which has slightly more liberal access, though not by much) behind the plate, especially if the game sucked/was meaningless, which it has more often than not since Citi Field opened. And I go to 15-20 games a year anyway, so it's not like it's my only chance to see live action. But here's the twist..what if I was offered these seats to a Yankee game? Or a Yankees fan was offered Citi Field seats. I'm definitely taking them, but then have virtually zero interest in the game. It's true, i'm probably stereotyping the rich folk. Plenty of rich folk, and likely a similar percentage as not-rich folk, are baseball fans. I don't know what types of people own those seats, and if they do in fact look at it as an investment/perk of sorts and don't mind not going/giving away the seats when it's not worth it. The people that do go balked in 2009 when the Mets discounted some of the expensive seats a lot to get people to go. I imagine this same philosophy is why we don't see any contests that give you those seats if there are in fact any available. I do think that fans in those seats as visible by the cameras are a poor representation of how sold they are though. You can usually get an inkling of the more common sections by how spread out people are. massive swaths of empty seats usually means unsold, whereas a couple of people per row usually means no-shows/walkers/standers. (There are great places to stand after all) *checks* in fact, they are available, so you're right. section 15 row 6 seat 7 and 8 are available for the 'home stretch' if you click through the season ticket links on mets.com. Do the Mets claim these seats are mostly sold? I clicked for 4 in the second to highest section, delta silver or whatever(only $2,881.00 per seat for the rest of the year..), and found spots for that too. I only say the Champions Club is different because it's sorta that weird overhang area behind home plate and feels separate than the others. Too expensive for regular fans, but not seemingly worth it for folks that can afford it. I suspect this is why they tried the all-inclusive party feel to it for this year. You even have to go up the general escalator in the Rotunda to get there and not the special Delta one. But the CC sucks. I went in there last year when it was more 'general' admission. It's just a bar, one on either side. some nice pictures (and they're screwed if they get a third Champion to celebrate..where are they going to put it?) and then the ramp up to the seats in that section. I think the difference at Shea was (besides the economy obviously. I think prohibitively expensive didn't come until mid-2000s, but I guess it depends on prohibitively for who) that people already owned those seats and were sitting there. The jump season to season was never enough to make enough people say no, I'm not renewing. And no real clubs to hide in. I bet more of those people were just Mets fans too, versus corporations/businesses that saw a perk. Citi Field's price jump, coupled with the economy in some situations, scared people away. As they adjusted (same for the Yankees too, so this is probably not a 'Mets suck' thing) the prices it was harder to draw people in to buy new seats. The people that really wanted them chose other sections, other areas. Also, I'm not sure what he numbers are, but I think there are probably a lot more of these seats at Citi Field. The Mets gambled that the people sitting in the outer parts of the Field level at Shea would upgrade to sit at the nice seats at Citi Field, but it doesn't seem that way.

bmfc1 Aug 03 2012 10:32 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I love Amazin' Avenue's regular column, "This Week In SNY." Here's the latest: http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/8/3/32 ... s-spelling

seawolf17 Aug 03 2012 11:04 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Only 6 Mets, 24% of the active roster, played in Shea Stadium as a Met. Parnell and Niese only twice. Murphy only for that last two months. Santana, Pelfrey, and Wright are the only three that even really remember 'collapsing'. When the other three showed up they were already falling down. . Muffy played an integral role in this doggie doodie game. (Seriously considered giving up baseball after that game). That's the game I go back to again and again, it really turned me against the whole franchise. After that, it was nothing but regrettably bad ideas and bad luck, demolishing Shea, rehiring jerry and Omar, the economic collapse and madoff mess, the idiotic putz trade, the bernazard affair, the thud with which Citi field opened, etc etc. I was going through an old hard drive and managed to find a vid of Bucket and Ceetar sitting next to each other at said game: That was my last Shea game. Like I needed another reason to be in tears that night, jackwads.

G-Fafif Aug 05 2012 12:33 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Mookie Wilson received only one tenth-place selection in MVP voting through his entire career -- and it was for the last two months of 1989 that he spent as a Blue Jay.

G-Fafif Aug 05 2012 12:39 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: OE -- There's some truth to what you wrote. I'm not dismissing it outright. But there's also, I think, a lot of urban legend to your post, and it doesn't account for the level of vacancy you see in those choice sections at CF, game after game after game. Even when Dickey pitches. By contrast, ticket prices for seats in the section behind home plate underneath the netting at Shea Stadium reached prohibitively expensive levels by the late 1990's. And those sections were never as empty as the choice sections at CF. Not even during the Art Howe years. Reminds me of an episode Bob Costas recalled in Loose Balls, Terry Pluto's enormously entertaining oral history of the ABA. He challenged the PR guy from the Miami Floridians on inflated attendance figures. Whatever the number he was given dwarfed the actual fannies in the seats, which Costas could count for himself during the game. The PR guy insisted all those folks were here, they're just up buying refreshments or using the washroom. Costas finished his reminiscence with some crack about how the plumbing would burst (or something like that) if this was true. Anyway, I often think of that passage when I see the Mets report an attendance of 30,000.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 06 2012 06:07 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Steak sandwiches coming to Citi Field. http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/articl ... m&c_id=nym Pat Lafrieda to debut Original Filet Mignon Steak Sandwich tomorrow at Citi Field New York City's Top Meat Purveyor Will Unveil The Pat LaFrieda Original Steak Sandwich, Available Exclusively at Citi Field FLUSHING, N.Y., August 6, 2012 - The New York Mets today announced that Pat LaFrieda of Pat LaFrieda Meat Purveyors will introduce his Original Filet Mignon Steak Sandwich to the public at Citi Field tomorrow, Tuesday, August 7 when the Mets host the Miami Marlins at 7:10 p.m. The original LaFrieda family recipe features hand-cut 100% black angus seared filet mignon topped with Monterey jack cheese and sweet caramelized onions, served with a secret au jus on a custom-made and toasted French baguette (see attached photo). The sandwich will be available in LaFrieda Meats' own stand in Taste of the City on the Field Level behind the centerfield scoreboard near section 139. This officially marks LaFrieda Meats' first and only retail location. Prior to Citi Field, LaFrieda's steak sandwich was only available to lucky family and friends. "We are honored to be the first public venue to sell Pat's signature sandwich," said Jeff Wilpon, Chief Operating Officer, Mets. "Pat, with his long family history in the meat world, well-respected work ethic and choice of quality meats, is a perfect addition to the All-Star lineup of world-renowned restaurateurs and chefs at Citi Field." "Partnering with the New York Mets to bring our steak sandwich to the fans at Citi Field is a dream come true for our family," says Pat LaFrieda. "While at a game recently, I noticed a great steak sandwich was the only thing missing from the phenomenal food line-up, and thought our LaFrieda family recipe would be a perfect fit. We are honored to be able to open our first retail location at the home of the Mets where the Pat LaFrieda Original Filet Mignon Sandwich will take its place amongst the superior quality of food at one of New York City's most iconic venues." Pat LaFrieda Meat Purveyors will also supply Citi Field's Delta Sky360 Club and Acela Club. LaFrieda, known as the "Magician of Meat," owns and operates New York City's most prestigious and valued meat packing facility, Pat LaFrieda Meat Purveyors, which supplies the finest restaurants in NYC, DC, Philadelphia, Ohio, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and more. His family stars in the reality show "Meat Men" on The Food Network, which debuted in April. The third generation meat supplier is famous for its aged steak program and over 50 custom hamburger blends. LaFrieda is the mastermind behind such burgers as the famous "Black Label Burger" and aged steaks at Minetta Tavern (the reigning haute burger in NYC), as well as signature custom blends at hot spots such as Shake Shack, Spotted Pig, Union Square Café, and Blue Smoke. ****** Bullpen help is on the way. Mets recall Garrett Olson. http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2012/0 ... calle.html ********* Psychic help may be one the way, too. The Amazing Kreskin (amazing that he's still alive) sez he can help Mets. http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/t ... -1.3887032

Swan Swan H Aug 06 2012 08:16 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I know what I'm having tomorrow night. Thanks, batmags.

Ceetar Aug 06 2012 08:17 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Swan Swan H wrote: I know what I'm having tomorrow night. Thanks, batmags. missing a chance for it Wednesday. b0ooo. if you're out there, check for a "sixpoint" beer stand near section 139 (left of Shake Shack somewhere) rumors fly, but haven't found any real confirmation.

Swan Swan H Aug 06 2012 08:25 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: I know what I'm having tomorrow night. Thanks, batmags. missing a chance for it Wednesday. b0ooo. if you're out there, check for a "sixpoint" beer stand near section 139 (left of Shake Shack somewhere) rumors fly, but haven't found any real confirmation. I'm on it. I'll take a look tomorrow and report once I wipe the au jus from my chin.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 06 2012 08:27 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Whaddya suppose they'll charge for that steak sammich? I bet Kreskin knows.

Swan Swan H Aug 06 2012 08:41 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Whaddya suppose they'll charge for that steak sammich? I bet Kreskin knows. I'll guess $16.

Ceetar Aug 06 2012 08:44 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Swan Swan H wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Whaddya suppose they'll charge for that steak sammich? I bet Kreskin knows. I'll guess $16. It's $15 as per the NYT last week.

Swan Swan H Aug 06 2012 08:48 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Whaddya suppose they'll charge for that steak sammich? I bet Kreskin knows. I'll guess $16. It's $15 as per the NYT last week. Excellent! Thanks.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 06 2012 08:57 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Swan Swan H wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Whaddya suppose they'll charge for that steak sammich? I bet Kreskin knows. I'll guess $16. It's $15 as per the NYT last week. Excellent! Thanks. Same as the MFY's Lobel's Steak sandwich. Unless they raised that price. I figgered they'd keep it under $20.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 07 2012 08:02 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Does anybody here really think that the choice seats at Citi Field, field level at and around home plate are mostly sold out, as the Mets claim? Those sections are way too empty, too often, for the Mets' claims to hold any water. And if the Mets really did sell out (or mostly sell out) all of their choice seats, why the hell are they running ads for the Champions Club with the all you can eat buffet, like every two or three innings on every SNY broadcast? I haven't seen the Champions Club SNY ad since I wrote the post above. Coincidence? Mets were on the road? Something else?

Ceetar Aug 07 2012 08:52 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Does anybody here really think that the choice seats at Citi Field, field level at and around home plate are mostly sold out, as the Mets claim? Those sections are way too empty, too often, for the Mets' claims to hold any water. And if the Mets really did sell out (or mostly sell out) all of their choice seats, why the hell are they running ads for the Champions Club with the all you can eat buffet, like every two or three innings on every SNY broadcast? I haven't seen the Champions Club SNY ad since I wrote the post above. Coincidence? Mets were on the road? Something else? Probably the west coast trip, or you just didn't notice it. Or they're switching gears towards selling tickets for next year?

batmagadanleadoff Aug 07 2012 09:13 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Does anybody here really think that the choice seats at Citi Field, field level at and around home plate are mostly sold out, as the Mets claim? Those sections are way too empty, too often, for the Mets' claims to hold any water. And if the Mets really did sell out (or mostly sell out) all of their choice seats, why the hell are they running ads for the Champions Club with the all you can eat buffet, like every two or three innings on every SNY broadcast? I haven't seen the Champions Club SNY ad since I wrote the post above. Coincidence? Mets were on the road? Something else? Probably the west coast trip, or you just didn't notice it. Or they're switching gears towards selling tickets for next year? Those last two are irreconcilable, no? Either I missed them (I didn't) or they didn't air.

Ceetar Aug 07 2012 09:18 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

True. I know I pay so little attention to commercials that even if I was making a point to watch for one I wouldn't believe I hadn't just missed it. so if you're pretty sure it didn't air, maybe they've decided 'new month, new ad direction'? I know they have started suggesting ticket holders renew for 2013 to lock in pricing, so might just be that.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 08 2012 08:48 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Whaddya suppose they'll charge for that steak sammich? I bet Kreskin knows. I'll guess $16. It's $15 as per the NYT last week. Excellent! Thanks. Same as the MFY's Lobel's Steak sandwich. Unless they raised that price. I figgered they'd keep it under $20. Early reviews: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/862226

Ceetar Aug 08 2012 08:51 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

[url]http://tedquarters.net/words/sandwiches-of-citi-field-original-filet-mignon-steak-sandwich/

Swan Swan H Aug 08 2012 09:39 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

I'm on Team Ted. The sandwich was delicious, off the grill and in my hands within seconds. There was a line, but not ridiculous. Two things I learned - it's a mother to try and eat this sitting at one's seat, so best to partake at a table, whether standing or sitting, and try to scrounge up a fork or spoon, since a large portion of the toppings found their way off the sandwich and into the box/tray/plate thing. Oh, and napkins. Many napkins. Or a dropcloth and hose. I'm not a neat eater. Ceetar, we got there later than I wanted due to traffic so I didn't get a chance to look for your sixpoint beer. We'll be back on Saturday, and I'll try to get down there a bit earlier and peek around.

Ceetar Aug 08 2012 09:46 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Swan Swan H wrote: Ceetar, we got there later than I wanted due to traffic so I didn't get a chance to look for your sixpoint beer. We'll be back on Saturday, and I'll try to get down there a bit earlier and peek around. I was actually wondering if the Sixpoint was AT the Steak Sandwich place. It was in the opening from behind the seats into the center field concourse to the left of Shake Shack right? There (used to be at least) a Beer of the world little stand there. No worries though, Someone told me they're going tonight and will check it out. I'm probably not making it out on this homestand myself, finances and broken cars being what they are.

Swan Swan H Aug 08 2012 09:57 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Ceetar wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: Ceetar, we got there later than I wanted due to traffic so I didn't get a chance to look for your sixpoint beer. We'll be back on Saturday, and I'll try to get down there a bit earlier and peek around. I was actually wondering if the Sixpoint was AT the Steak Sandwich place. It was in the opening from behind the seats into the center field concourse to the left of Shake Shack right? There (used to be at least) a Beer of the world little stand there. No worries though, Someone told me they're going tonight and will check it out. I'm probably not making it out on this homestand myself, finances and broken cars being what they are. That's exactly where it was. It's a double-wide stand, and there is a sausage stand to the left of it.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 08 2012 04:39 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Another positive review for the Steak Sandwich. Ugly picture, though. The thing looks gelatinous, like pizza under the counter that was cooked eight hours ago. New Citi Field eats: Pat LaFrieda’s steak sandwich Don’t get me wrong, Shake Shack is great. But there’s a limit to the burger joint’s cache at Citi Field, mostly because you can find it easily enough around New York City, the Eastern seaboard and, now, the world. (Dubai, anyone?) It used to be unique, but it’s not anymore. Thankfully, the folks who run Citi Field’s concessions have constantly tweaked and improved over the past four seasons, this year alone adding a Greek stand in right field and Two Boots Pizza throughout the ballpark. The latest addition made its debut Tuesday: Pat LaFrieda’s original steak sandwich, with a location near Shake Shack in the center field food court. Fifteen dollars gets you one black angus filet, topped with Monterey jack cheese and sweet caramelized onions, served with a secret au jus on a custom-made and toasted French baguette. Like Shake Shack guru Danny Meyer, LaFrieda is a celebrity in the industry — you can read about him in this 2010 profile in New York magazine. But unlike Shake Shack, you can’t get this sandwich anywhere else — Citi Field is LaFrieda’s first and only retail location. I had my first taste this evening when the Mets delivered a cart of the sandwiches to the press box, and I was not disappointed. The bread is crusty and there’s a good amount of steak and cheese. If you don’t like onions, I would recommend ordering the sandwich without them — they dominate the flavor. But it’s a good flavor, and I’ll go as far as to say it’s worth the $15 if you can spare it. http://dicomo.mlblogs.com/2012/08/07/ne ... -sandwich/

batmagadanleadoff Aug 08 2012 04:41 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

One more. People Are Waiting 3 Innings For The Pat LaFrieda Steak Sandwich At Citi Field New York City celebrity butcher Pat LaFrieda has taken his talents to Citi Field. Last night the meat master debuted a filet mignon steak sandwich stand at a game between the New York Mets and Miami Marlins. The sandwich features hand-cut 100% black angus seared filet mignon, Monterey jack cheese, sweet caramelized onions, and is served with a secret au jus on a custom-made and toasted French baguette. LaFrieda’s sandwich was previously available only to family and friends, making Citi Field the first public venue to sell it, and the first restaurant concept from the purveyor. It sells for $15, the same amount that a Lobel’s steak sandwich sells for at Yankee Stadium. Last night, I visited the stand behind the centerfield wall to check out the sandwich’s opening night reception. The buzz was evident, as there was a slow-moving line of roughly 70 fans waiting for the moist and perfectly seasoned sandwich. Fearful that I might miss a Mets milestone performance (yeah, right), I decided not to brave the nearly three-inning line and returned to my seat hungry and unsatisfied. Initially the sandwich has received positive reviews from fans who stood in line, as well as from the Mets broadcast team — who received free samples between innings. LaFrieda’s signature product just may be the most exciting thing to happen at Citi Field since, umm, well let’s just say in a long time. Move over Shake Shack! http://www.foodrepublic.com/2012/08/08/ ... a-steak-sa

batmagadanleadoff Aug 08 2012 04:44 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

The Crazy Review: Pat LaFrieda's Filet Mignon Steak Sandwich If you have not yet heard, Pat LaFrieda steak sandwich is now at Citi Field. Last night Mets fans had the opportunity to try this carnivorous delight. There was nothing short about the debut of the Pat LaFrieda Original Filet Mignon Steak Sandwich and that included the line to get this $15 sandwich. "The original LaFrieda family recipe features hand-cut Black Angus seared filet mignon topped with Monterey Jack cheese and sweet caramelized onions, served with a secret au jus on a custom-made and toasted French baguette," according to a press release. The Citi Field stand is LaFrieda's only retail location and for now. At first glance I was tempted to shy away from this line that could soon compete with Shake Shack or Blue Smoke. It took me an easy 15-20 minutes to approach the front of the line where there were two grills and two cashiers. At the flat top grill they would prepare 3 hand-cut Black Angus seared filet mignon (per sandwich) on one side with sweet caramelized onions on the other. For each sandwich they would break away 2 mounds of the caramelized onions and place Monterey Jack cheese on each mound to let the cheese melt into the onions. They carefully placed the three rare steaks on the toasted French baguette then added the next layer of onions and Monterey Jack cheese topping it with secret au jus sauce. After paying my $15, I headed off to a high top table near the Big Apple Brew with a good view of the outfield screen so I could watch the game. I knew after my first bite that this sandwich had made it to the top of the list of my favorite sandwiches at CitiField over Blue Smoke Pulled Pork sandwich and Keith's Grill Mex burger. The combination of the Monterey Jack, caramelized onions and au jus sauce over the well prepared filet mignon was to die for and even with all that the baguette was not soggy but rather crispy. I give this a definite thumbs up and a must have while at Citi Field for the Mets game. http://www.thecrazymetsfan.com/

SteveJRogers Aug 08 2012 07:11 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

G-Fafif wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: OE -- There's some truth to what you wrote. I'm not dismissing it outright. But there's also, I think, a lot of urban legend to your post, and it doesn't account for the level of vacancy you see in those choice sections at CF, game after game after game. Even when Dickey pitches. By contrast, ticket prices for seats in the section behind home plate underneath the netting at Shea Stadium reached prohibitively expensive levels by the late 1990's. And those sections were never as empty as the choice sections at CF. Not even during the Art Howe years. Reminds me of an episode Bob Costas recalled in Loose Balls, Terry Pluto's enormously entertaining oral history of the ABA. He challenged the PR guy from the Miami Floridians on inflated attendance figures. Whatever the number he was given dwarfed the actual fannies in the seats, which Costas could count for himself during the game. The PR guy insisted all those folks were here, they're just up buying refreshments or using the washroom. Costas finished his reminiscence with some crack about how the plumbing would burst (or something like that) if this was true. Anyway, I often think of that passage when I see the Mets report an attendance of 30,000. To be fair, whatever one feels about all the amenities behind home in the Promenade, Caesar's Club and it's Horseshoe bars along the baselines and the Field Level outfield extravaganza from Shake Shack through the World's Fair Market and of course McFadden's (providing you don't mind not being able to go back into the stadium), I think there is more of a reason for the Mets PR to use that excuse than the Miami Floridians PR guy from the 1970s did.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 10 2012 10:57 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Josh Thole's 2012 batting line was lifted straight from the resume of the prime of Bud Harrelson. Except Thole's a lot slower. And probably wouldn't of stood up to Pete Rose.

Ceetar Aug 10 2012 11:46 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Josh Thole's 2012 batting line was lifted straight from the resume of the prime of Bud Harrelson. Except Thole's a lot slower. And probably wouldn't of stood up to Pete Rose. True, but Thole's also under-performing his career this year. Bud's OPS+ with the Mets 75, Thole's at 81 this year. But wow, did Harrelson have a reallllllly bad '77 and '78. like, jealous of Jason Bay bad. And then suddenly a great year as what appears to be a super-sub with the Phillies in '79 and another good one with the Rangers after that at age 36? .50 and .70 points above his career average OBP.

Ceetar Aug 23 2012 10:02 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2012 02:08 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Mini Mets Museum Graces Lake Hopatcong Home Liz Mottolese and her family pay tribute to their favorite baseball team. There are Met fans. There are even diehard Met fans. And then there’s Liz Mottolese of Lake Hopatcong, who, along with her husband Johnny and daughters Ashley, Nicole and Taylor Mueller redecorated a whole room in their home and turned it into a mini Mets museum. Mottolese opened the room with a traditional ribbon cutting ceremony on Saturday. Filled with bats, balls, ticket stubs, signed photographs and highlighted by Mottolese’s actual seats from Shea Stadium, the room pays tribute to the team that Mottolese and her extended family have been fans of since 1969. The idea for the room actually came from Mottolese’s daughter Nicole Mueller. “We had all this Met stuff just sitting in the basement, so I figured we should do something with it. We all love the team, so it just made sense.” Once the idea took hold, it also took off. Mottolese said it took about five weeks to complete. “This had been a dirty old work room,” she said of the tribute. “We had to rip down old shelves, take out the old lighting and put in recessed lighting, pick out the blue and orange paint and then figure out how to display everything.” The room includes several highlights, including a bat given by Tom Seaver to Ashley Mueller when she was just four years old, during spring training and a ball signed by Jerry Koosman. Several friends and family members came to the ribbon cutting ceremony, including Ronda Ralph, Mottolese’s closest friend, whom she met at—wait for it—Shea Stadium, when the women’s two families had seats near each other. http://jefferson.patch.com/articles/min ... o-11208565

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2012 10:19 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Mini Mets Museum Graces Lake Hopatcong Home Now this guy's got a real Mets museum in his home. He Has Met the Mets and He Owns Them By VINCENT M. MALLOZZI Published: September 24, 2006 Even Hollywood has made the pilgrimage to the mecca of Mets memorabilia, a shrine to Andy Fogel’s favorite team. “I was 12 when the Mets were born in 1962,’’ said Fogel, 56, who grew up in Brooklyn as the son of Dodger fans. “I grew up with the Mets, and I know an awful lot about their history.’’ He owns a lot of it as well, an estimated 3,000 pieces, including Jerry Grote’s catching equipment from the 1960’s; jerseys worn by Casey Stengel, Gil Hodges and Tom Seaver; and team-autographed baseballs from every season in Mets history. In a never-ending bid to add to his Amazin’ collection, Fogel spends about 25 hours a week visiting auction sites on the Internet and auction houses, a pastime he began to pursue seriously in 1990 after he and his wife, Rona, visited the Metropolitan Museum of Art in Manhattan. “I saw a whole room filled with an art collection donated by one man,’’ he recalled. “It was quite inspiring.’’ So he began collecting everything Mets: autographed baseballs, pictures, postcards, pennants, yearbooks, programs, bobble-head dolls, even an original wood seat from Shea Stadium. He also owns unused tickets from every home and away postseason game in Mets history; a life-size Tom Seaver cardboard cutout from 1968; a 1969 World Series ring; a mannequin dressed in the complete 1973 uniform of the former Mets coach Roy McMillan; and jerseys worn by 24 members of the 1986 championship team. Most of those items are displayed in the bedroom that once belonged to Fogel’s daughter, Lauren, before she married five years ago, but there is much more in the basement of his house in Suffern, N.Y. When his son, Joshua, married two years ago, Fogel wanted to combine both bedrooms to increase the size of his Metropolitan area. “I told him that if he did that, he could take up residence in the garage,’’ Rona Fogel said. “Hey, look, it’s a great collection, and it’s better than a mistress, but I still have to push him back if he oversteps his boundaries.’’ Fogel has sold only one item from his collection, a 1969 Ed Charles World Series jersey. Price: $20,000. Reason: Priceless. “I used the money to pay for my daughter’s wedding,’’ he said. Having retired last year from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey as an assistant director in charge of E-ZPass, Fogel often takes relatives, friends and fellow collectors for a two-hour spin through what Ya Gotta Believe is the world’s first Mets museum. The collection includes such rare items as a cigarette lighter that plays “Meet the Mets,’’ with a picture of Mr. Met on one side and Shea on the other, and name plates that once hung over the lockers of players from the 1960’s like Ed Kranepool and Marvelous Marv Throneberry. Among Fogel’s oddest items are a set of window curtains, adorned with Mr. Met and team logos, that had belonged to Joan Payson, the team’s original owner, and a straw hat that she wore at Shea during the 1969 World Series. Perhaps the most historically significant pieces are five pages of short evaluations of the 1964 Mets handwritten by Stengel, the team’s first manager. Stengel’s evaluation of Ron Hunt, which Fogel has framed with others, reads: “Demands that a ballplayer outplay him at second base. If so, he will try another position. Good, hard, tough game player that can execute almost every play. Could cover more ground.’’ Memorabilia from Fogel’s collection appeared in the 2000 movie “Frequency,’’ which starred Dennis Quaid and James Caviezel as a father and son who root for the Mets and communicate by radio across 30 years to track a murderer. In August, “Mets Weekly,’’ a show on SNY, the Mets’ network, filmed a segment at Fogel’s house, and members of the team’s public relations staff toured his treasured souvenirs. The team is considering using some of his collectibles for inclusion in yearbooks, programs or celebrations. But Fogel has visions of an even longer shelf life. “Maybe the Mets will open a museum inside their new stadium,’’ he said. “I could certainly loan them some of my stuff for display.’’ http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/sport ... cheer.html _______________ Journey to Metca With the demolition of Shea Stadium, I have been searching for a place where Mets dreams and memories appear before my very eyes. I won’t call it a glorious past, because that would be inaccurate, but it certainly has been interesting. The commemorative DVDs and TV specials are great, but they’re only two dimensional. Citi Field, for all its charm, does not work as a reminder of past Mets glory once you get inside—though the outside looks great. Citi Field is the best place this side of New Orleans for a po’ boy, but the only tributes to the Mets inside the new park seem to be reactions to tough FAN love regarding the home team they forgot to honor (the old Apple repository, Doc’s signed wall, some bases in the parking lot…). I went to a subterranean museum of blue and orange gold (that statement makes sense if you want it to), a place not located in the Wilbert Robinson-Pete Reiser-Carl Erskine wine cellar at Citi Field, but far away from Queens, in the Iron Mountain of Mets Matter: Andy Fogel’s basement. Vincent Mallozzi of the New York Times, who wrote a story about my little Mets life last year, chronicled the Fogel tale just after the Mets clinched their last postseason berth in 2006. I got the “you’re crazy” reaction when I told a recent interviewer that I bought two seats from Shea Stadium and put them in my basement, the first major memorabilia purchase of my life. My defense: “The cost of those seats included shipping and it was cheaper than four tickets in the Ebbets boxes for a Thursday night game against San Diego in April.” Which is true by about $100, I’m told. And not that I believe in Mets Mojo, but twice on the recent homestand I sat in my Shea basement seats with the game tied late and the Mets put it away that very inning. My butt has become a rally cap. But this isn’t about me—or my butt—it’s about the great vein of Metrobilia found in Rockland County. Andy Fogel also has seats from Shea, along with seats from the Polo Grounds, stools from the Shea locker room, and a very rare wooden seat in pristine condition from the 1970s. New ownership burned the old seats in 1980. This came a few months after they removed and scrapped the signature aluminum panels that made Shea Shea. For the End of Sheas, the savvy Mets sold everything. The sale went so well that there doesn’t seem to be much left from the old ballpark to transfer to the new ballpark. Nor does there seem to be much inclination to muss up the new digs with such dusty relics. As I’ve told anyone who asks, I like Citi Field very much. It’s very representative of the retro ballpark era that started 17 years ago. Unfortunately, you could airlift any team into the place and tell them it was their home and there would few indications to say you were wrong. There appears to be no truth to the rumor that the Dodgers will wear their home whites when they come to New York in mid-July. Andy Fogel likes the new ballpark, too. But his basement has more Mets stuff than the million-plus square feet in Citi Field. (His collection recently moved from one of his children’s rooms to his clean, spacious basement and many of his items are newly returned from loans to NYC museums.) Andy has Joan Payson’s 1969 Styrofoam hat, not to mention her Mr. Met curtains, Casey’s uniform, Tug’s uniform, about 100 others Mets’ uniforms, the spiffy 1960s jackets worn by ushers, Ed Charles’s Mets jacket that looks like it just came off the assembly line this morning, 1969 Mets figurines, every advertisement Tom Seaver seemingly ever did (he makes Jeter look like he’s not even trying to hawk), every ticket stub save one—July 31—for the 1986 Mets, the top of the Shea foul pole that they could use at Citi Field (those paying attention will note Gary, Keith, and Ron have been discussing how short the new poles are), and more Mets pennants than the franchise could win if it lasted a thousand years. I had a purpose for my pilgrimage. Since seemingly time began, Ken Samelson and I, plus many others have been working hard on a comprehensive telling of the 1969 Mets season and every player: The Miracle Has Landed, scheduled for fall release from Maple Street Press. It’s a group effort and a non-profit one at that for the Society of American Baseball Research. So this long-planned, much-delayed journey to Andy’s to take photos of the holy relics from his collection was well worth the wait. My reporting of his Art(Shamsky)ifacts does not do the collection justice, and neither has the team that inspired it. So much for trying not to hop on the Citi-bashing bandwagon. I’m late to a party I tried to avoid in the first place. The wonderful Fogel basement pushed me over the top. Enough now from me about a little more Mets presence at the new stadium. I’ll let Andy’s final words from Mallozzi’s 2006 article speak for itself: “Maybe the Mets will open a museum inside their new stadium,’’ he said. “I could certainly loan them some of my stuff for display.’’ Amen. http://metsilverman.com/may09.html

The Second Spitter Sep 05 2012 04:40 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

[youtube:1on1lt80]2xbFZgL7XTY[/youtube:1on1lt80] I call dibs on the parody of the video title!

MFS62 Sep 05 2012 07:17 AM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

His legs were moving too fast to tell when he went around first and second, but he definitely hit/ turned third with his left foot. Later

Ceetar Oct 17 2012 05:31 PM Re: Random Mets Jibber Jabber

Mets are 776-580-4 (through 2011) when they hit a double in the 6th inning.