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Edgy MD
Feb 16 2012 01:30 PM

The thread that covers the folks who cover the Mets. New Bergen Record guy Mike Kerwick is a 4:32 miler.



Kerwick also writes a lot about music and co-authored Chico Resch's memoir (which, if only in title, seems to have disturbingly kicked his Islander legacy to the curb).

Kerwick's blog also does us the service of answering the burning question of what The E-Street Band will do to fill the void in their first tour after the death of Clarence Clemons. Will they bring in an interloper? A legacy? A full horn section? Turns out, all three.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 16 2012 01:58 PM
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Looks like a Matt Lauer wannabe.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 16 2012 02:00 PM
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Ed Manion is an old Asbury Jukes guy iirc. I do like the idea of Springy touring with a full brass section but unless I win tickets on the radio I ain;t going to see him no time soon.

4:32 milers look like skeletons.

G-Fafif
Feb 16 2012 02:22 PM
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Not Chico's memoir but one of the "Tales" series celebrating a given franchise, with player/announcer (or both, in Resch's case) attached to make it more authentic and appealing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 16 2012 02:33 PM
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Anyone else left a little unfulfilled with the details of Megdal's make-up with Jay Horwitz?

The way it was worded seems suspect to me. Did Megdal and his editor misinterpret the Mets apparently "unchanged" policy or what?

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2012 02:40 PM
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My get is that the Mets changed their minds under pressure and chose not to make a statement which would have been dissected and caused them more embarrassment no matter how carefully worded. Megdal and LoHud, whether out of thanks or graciousness, chose not to make a big deal out of pressing them for an explanation.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 16 2012 02:57 PM
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Eh. I don't think we deserve Howard's graciousness in this case. Tell us what happened.

Gwreck
Feb 16 2012 03:58 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
n but unless I win tickets on the radio I ain;t going to see him no time soon.


Philosophical objection or not wanting to spend the 100 bucks for a ticket?

Should be able to find some cheap seats in the parking lot to the Citi Field shows in August.

Ashie62
Feb 16 2012 08:57 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Looks like a Matt Lauer wannabe.


Brian Cashman also.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 16 2012 09:55 PM
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Gwreck wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
n but unless I win tickets on the radio I ain;t going to see him no time soon.


Philosophical objection or not wanting to spend the 100 bucks for a ticket?

Should be able to find some cheap seats in the parking lot to the Citi Field shows in August.

The hundred bucks thing.

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2012 10:25 PM
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I don't care how cheap, I don't want to pay to sit in the parking lot.

Edgy MD
Feb 27 2012 01:25 PM
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That's Right, My Name is Mike Fuckin' Puma (via Twitter) wrote:
Collins told Mets, "‘There’s 29 teams that think they are better than you are,” ... Are the Astros really thumbing their noses at Mets?

Edgy MD
Feb 29 2012 07:08 AM
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Kerwick shares Martino's affections for the hipster hat.

Edgy MD
Mar 13 2012 12:31 PM
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Ruby tweeting that the Mets have been trying to push the beatwriters to write negative stories about Beltran.

Ceetar
Mar 13 2012 12:33 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Ruby tweeting that the Mets have been trying to push the beatwriters to write negative stories about Beltran.


I thought he was saying this happened two years ago with the Walter Reed thing. Getting his panties in a bunch about people pointing out how media-driven that story was and claiming the Mets 'whispered' that they should write bad things about Beltran.

Edgy MD
Mar 13 2012 12:34 PM
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Well, that's what happens when tweeting kills clarity. Sorry 'bout that.

Ceetar
Mar 13 2012 12:36 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Well, that's what happens when tweeting kills clarity. Sorry 'bout that.


I could have misunderstood too. I don't follow him so most of what I see is second-hand and it's not always easy to recreate timelines out of tweets looking at it afterwards.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 13 2012 12:42 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Ruby tweeting that the Mets have been trying to push the beatwriters to write negative stories about Beltran.


I thought he was saying this happened two years ago with the Walter Reed thing. Getting his panties in a bunch about people pointing out how media-driven that story was and claiming the Mets 'whispered' that they should write bad things about Beltran.


My interpretation of that exchange was more like Edgy's.

A fan said the media was too negative on the Reed thing because the trip was "optional" and Rubin replied "You're naiive."

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 14 2012 12:24 PM
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Ken Davidoff leaving Snoozeday for the Post.

It'd be cool if Sherman left the Post for Snooze.

Ceetar
Mar 29 2012 07:10 PM
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Beat Writers.

David Lennon promoted to 'columnist' with Newsday. What's that mean? That's not what he was already?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 29 2012 07:55 PM
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It sounds as though Lennon is getting Davidoff's beat as "national baseball writer." His beat would be all baseball, not just the Mets. I'd guess they slot a new beat guy in his place, but who knows with Newsday anymore.

Frayed Knot
Mar 29 2012 08:12 PM
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It's Dolan's paper so maybe Isiah Thomas will get the job.

Ceetar
Mar 29 2012 08:13 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
It's Dolan's paper so maybe Isiah Thomas will get the job.


Isn't he coaching the Knicks next season?

Edgy MD
Apr 03 2012 09:59 AM
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Two different beat men report getting on the wrong side of Frank Francisco today.

Mikey Puma wrote:
Frank Francisco (who isn't headed to DL) just chastised me for laughing after he declared: "We will win a lot of ...


David Lennon wrote:
Francisco asked how his bullpen looked. I replied, "Good." He stared at me and said, "It was great."

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 03 2012 10:06 AM
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Mets asst, GM Jonah Hill chatting NOW

[url]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/chat/chat.php?chatId=915

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 03 2012 10:19 AM
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I hope he takes a question from Johnny from Queens:

Rauch? WTF?

Fman99
Apr 03 2012 07:36 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

4:32 milers look like skeletons.


I run with a guy (figuratively) who runs six minute miles. He's 53 years old. And wafer thin.

Edgy MD
Apr 03 2012 08:32 PM
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Hey, PdP likes my handle.

Ceetar
May 09 2012 01:59 PM
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Lucas Duda is a funny guy
BY ANDY MARTINO

Beginning to think that Lucas Duda is messing with us. From last night:

Kevin Burkhardt: Lucas, just confidence-wise, especially because it’s against two lefthanders, what did that mean to you?

Lucas Duda: Yeah, I mean. I kind of struggled through the first part of the season agianst lefties. Luckily the ball found some space, and I got a hit.

Burkhardt: (laughter). You say that matter-of-factly. Both of them were pretty big.

Duda: Yeah, you know. Guys got on, I swung the bat, hit the ball, and it was a base hit.

Me: That’s true. That’s what happened.

Duda: That’s what happened. You’re right.


[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2012/05/lucas-duda-is-a-funny-guy

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2012 09:59 AM
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I forgot to buy my daily Tracksuit today but this freewheeling penetration of Ike Davis is on the net:



“Hey."

It is Ike Davis, appearing in the hallway outside the Mets’ clubhouse at Citi Field. He holds a coffee cup, and curls the corners of his mouth into the usual grin.

“When are you going to write a story that says I suck?”

There is more to this request, delivered with that Ike Davis blend of humor, perspective and accountability.

“Actually, write that they should send me to Buffalo,” he says, still grinning as he vanishes into the indoor batting cage. “Then I’ll get fired up. Yeah, write that I suck.”

All right, man. You got it.

This is several days later, a rainy afternoon at Citizens Bank Park. The tack-on, three-run homer in Wednesday’s 10-6, sweep-completing win over the Phillies, after which Davis’ on-base plus slugging is still .548, 22nd among 24 qualifying major league first basemen, has not happened yet.

Davis leans back in the chair in front of his locker.

Daily News: “Why do you want a story written that says you suck?”

Ike Davis: “Wait. It’s not like I really wanted a story written that says I suck.”

DN: “You asked for it. So do you suck or not?”

ID: “I wouldn’t say I suck, but I’m bad this year so far.”

The interview begins bouncily like that. There is a blend of traits converging inside this 25-year-old.

There is the belief that he is really good at baseball, and also the perspective — crucial for sanity over the past 12 months, when an ankle injury and case of Valley Fever, both mostly resolved, threatened his life’s trajectory — that baseball is not everything.

Flash back to March of 2011, a Mets off day in Port St. Lucie. Davis decides to see “The Adjustment Bureau,” a movie about career vs. happiness. Matt Damon and Emily Blunt are in love, but a shadowy organization tries to keep them apart, because their important careers will be spoiled by a relationship.

On the way out of the theater, Davis and then-third base coach Chip Hale run into one another, and discuss whether they would rather find true love, or hit 800 home runs.

“Gotta go with the home runs,” Hale says.

“I would take the true love,” Davis argues.

But that does not mean he is not serious about this job. At his locker in Philly, Davis cannot maintain the jaunty interview, not when forced to relive a season that has his batting average at .179 after 30 games.

He is now making unwavering eye contact. His voice is firm and defiant.

ID: “I am going to get better. I am going to be better. I’m going to get back to where I normally am. That might take a little time, but I’m going to be there.”

DN: “What makes you so sure?”

ID: “I’m a good baseball player. I know I am. If I thought this was the best I could do, then I would tell you that: ‘This is the best I can do.’ And then this wouldn’t be as frustrating.”

DN: “Frustrating?”

ID: “It was hard, like ‘When am I going to get my first hit?’ You start thinking that, and you work, and you end up getting exhausted mentally, trying to find it, find it, find it. It can be detrimental.”

DN: “In what sense?”

ID: “That you just drain yourself, mentally and physically. And it’s hard to play the game when you’re drained.”

DN: “Is that how you feel now?”

ID: “No, I’m in a better place. I thought about the situation, and put life in perspective. People go through trials in their life. I know I can be here, and I know I can stay here. I just know it.”

This has been more difficult on Davis than on his teammates. The upside of knowing that, if you had to, you would choose love over baseball is that you don’t become an ornery beast while slumping.

“He is tough on himself, but as a teammate he has been better than you could ask for,” says David Wright. “He understands that probably pretty soon, he’s going to carry us.”

Could that have begun with Wednesday’s homer and double? Or were those simply bad pitches from bad relievers?

On this job, you can’t predict anything. That is why it helps to see it like this:

ID: “This is obviously not the way I wanted the year to go, but you have to have perspective: I’m alive. I’m healthy. I’m here.”



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z1uZqo9hk4

Edgy MD
May 11 2012 10:37 AM
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The tack-on, three-run homer in Wednesday’s 10-6, sweep-completing win over the Phillies, after which Davis’ on-base plus slugging is still .548, 22nd among 24 qualifying major league first basemen, has not happened yet.

Two firstbasemen have been worse than Davis and haven't lost their jobs yet?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2012 11:18 AM
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Yeah that was my first thought. I don't wanna go look it up but it's possible one of them is that fat whore who plays for the MFYs.

A Boy Named Seo
May 11 2012 11:23 AM
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I think that bum Pujols might be one.

Vic Sage
May 11 2012 11:26 AM
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Two firstbasemen have been worse than Davis and haven't lost their jobs yet?


Pujols (CA) and Smoak (SEA); Albert ain't losing anything, but Smoak could get sent down.

Ceetar
May 11 2012 11:38 AM
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Vic Sage wrote:
Two firstbasemen have been worse than Davis and haven't lost their jobs yet?


Pujols (CA) and Smoak (SEA); Albert ain't losing anything, but Smoak could get sent down.


i should just subscribe to B-R so I can see these full lists better.

if you go by OPS+ Ike jumps ahead of Gaby Sanchez.

G-Fafif
Jun 20 2012 06:37 AM
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Hacky Hackerson...John Harper, that is, in the Snooze on the Mets possibly being trade-deadline buyers:

If you gave GM Sandy Alderson truth serum, he’d tell you he had no such thoughts when this season began, as he goes about trying to build the foundation for long-term contention in the future.


How about "GM Sandy Alderson probably had no such thoughts when this season began..." instead of pretending to read minds and insisting on using Cold War cliches?

metirish
Jun 20 2012 06:48 AM
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I would have phrased it thus

If you were to water-board GM Sandy Alderson , he’d tell you he had no such thoughts when this season began, as he goes about trying to build the foundation for long-term contention in the future.

G-Fafif
Jun 20 2012 07:00 AM
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metirish wrote:
I would have phrased it thus

If you were to water-board GM Sandy Alderson , he’d tell you he had no such thoughts when this season began, as he goes about trying to build the foundation for long-term contention in the future.


You're right. Harper and I almost let the terrorists win.

Ceetar
Jun 20 2012 07:28 AM
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He's right you know. His imagination about what Sandy Alderson was thinking in February is WAY MORE IMPORTANT than worthless things like current standings and actual results.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2012 07:34 AM
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No GM should put too much thought into deadline retooling, as he (or she, potentially) should hellbent be building a team where all the pieces are in place and a minor league system where all the reinforcements are ready, even in seasons where that's a fool's errand.

That said (1) nobody knows more than a military leader that systems are volatile, and the best plans are the ones that allow for planning after the best plans break down, (2) Alderson explicitly said on several occasions that he was leaving room in the budget to potentially take on some degree of salary, if necessary, as the season progresses. (Although I suppose truth serum might tell me that that was just a small cover for his bosses being cheap and broke.)

MFS62
Jun 20 2012 07:46 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 20 2012 07:47 AM

Cheap and broke?
Then Sandy may be getting ready for some post - planning breakdown planning.*

Since the Spring, we've learned the Wilpons aren't as broke as we anticipated. They lost less (maybe even gained) money on the Madoff mess and attendance has been higher then many have predicted. Maybe the purse strings are getting looser. Who knows?

But then he'd still have to deal with "cheap".

Later

* Sandy must have learned the military "6 Ps" (prior preparation prevents piss poor performance).

Ceetar
Jun 20 2012 07:47 AM
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Also this is a silly filler story that has to talk in absolutes. It's never strictly adding a rental versus selling commodities.

It's possible no matter what the record Sandy could look to add a piece that won't just be helpful this year, but next. It's possible Mejia/Beato/etc make Jon Rauch expendable and they trade him not because they're out of it but because they don't need him.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2012 07:58 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
(Although I suppose truth serum might tell me that that was just a small cover for his bosses being cheap and broke.)


To be clear, I'm not actually asserting this.

Ceetar
Jun 20 2012 08:04 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
(Although I suppose truth serum might tell me that that was just a small cover for his bosses being cheap and broke.)


To be clear, I'm not actually asserting this.


I think it was more challenge/threat than cover. Suggesting that if Mets fans come to the park and buy tickets and suggest an increased revenue stream there will be justification to add payroll in July if something works.

Ceetar
Jun 22 2012 11:36 AM
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Andy Martino back and covering the team for the ..News right? These guys are so interchangeable from me that I saw his tweets and didn't even think "hey! he's back!" until someone else noticed.

He did have a kid, so paternity leave or whatever.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 22 2012 11:45 AM
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I forgot to buy a paper today!

Edgy MD
Jun 23 2012 01:57 PM
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Mike Kerwick ?@mikekerwick
Yankees signed Marty McFly to a one-day contract. McFly told reporters, "Nobody calls me chicken!" #mets #yankees #bockbockbock

Edgy MD
Jun 27 2012 01:48 PM
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Dueling Andys on Twitter? Is this for real?

Andy McCullough ?@McCulloughSL
Another member of the beat, to me: "Please stop reading my game stories."


Andy Martino ?@SurfingTheMets
Source: It was me RT @McCulloughSL: Another member of the beat, to me: "Please stop reading my game stories."

Ceetar
Jun 27 2012 02:15 PM
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presumably McCullough wanted to switch to FAcebook but not get called out on it by Martino.

Ceetar
Jul 08 2012 08:56 AM
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[url]http://deadspin.com/5924224/baseball-writers-of-america-its-hot

Don't usually like deadspin, but I snickered at this. (I guess I like Baseball writers less)

Edgy MD
Jul 13 2012 08:39 AM
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A Wall Street Journal report on the Harvey dilemma. Pretty boilerplate stuff until you get to the very bottom.

The Mets' Matt Harvey Conundrum
By BRIAN COSTA


ATLANTA—If the Mets were in full rebuilding mode, or if they seemed primed for a championship run, the decisions would be easier this time of year. But like most teams, they reside in the vast, murky area in between.

Enlarge Image

Associated Press
Mets prospect Matt Harvey in February

And so they must choose between the needs of the future and the demands of the present, balancing both but ultimately giving more weight to one or the other. That will be true as they approach the trade deadline at the end of the month. And it is especially true now, as they grapple with the question of the moment:

What to do with Matt Harvey?

If all had gone to plan, no one would be asking. Harvey, one of the Mets' top pitching prospects, would continue to hone his skills at Triple-A Buffalo. And the Mets' starting rotation, their biggest strength in the first half, would remain intact.

But with Dillon Gee set to undergo surgery Friday that will keep him out at least until late September, the Mets need to plug a hole. And that's where Harvey comes in.

If the Mets want to call up a starter from the minors, there is no debating what their best option would be. Harvey, the Mets' first-round draft pick in 2010, has a 3.39 ERA in 18 starts at Buffalo and ranks second in the International League with 102 strikeouts.

But if the priority is Harvey's development—if it is ensuring he can not only survive but thrive in the majors before he gets there—the Mets believe there is reason to wait, if only a little longer. His command has been inconsistent, evidenced by both his walk rate (3.8 per nine innings) and an untold number of balls left up in the strike zone.

A Mets official said a promotion for Harvey, 23, is not imminent, but manager Terry Collins said there is "a remote possibility" he starts for the Mets on Wednesday in Washington.

"We're not sure he's ready just yet, but who knows? There may be a force feed," Collins said Thursday after a team workout at Turner Field. "If the people that see him say he's ready, bring him up. I'm all for it."

The Mets have seen the ills of pushing prospects too quickly to fill a major-league need, notably with Jenrry Mejia two years ago. But Mejia, who hasn't made it back to the majors since 2010, was 20 years old then and had never pitched above Double-A.

Harvey is older, more experienced and more polished. Even team officials who prefer a conservative approach don't believe he's far from major-league ready.

Before his team's game in Pawtucket, R.I., on Thursday, Buffalo manager Wally Backman said Harvey has made major strides in the past month, keeping his emotions in check and keeping the ball down in the strike zone.

"I think if Matt were to go up there tomorrow, he's definitely not going to embarrass himself, without question," Backman said. "He's going to go up there and he's going to compete. He's learned a lot. There's still a lot for him to learn."

And therein lies the Mets' dilemma. How ready does Harvey need to be before he's deemed ready? And at what point does that become secondary to the reality facing the major-league team?

At 46-40, the Mets will return from the All-Star break Friday and begin a potentially pivotal stretch against other contending teams, including the Braves, Nationals, Dodgers and Giants. They can avoid using a fifth starter until July 21, if necessary.

But they cannot get by with a four-man rotation. And their best internal option other than Harvey is swingman Miguel Batista, who doesn't inspire dread but doesn't inspire an abundance of confidence either—not as a permanent solution.

As talk of a possible promotion swirls around him, Harvey said he's trying to remain focused on his next scheduled start Monday for Buffalo. He said his only reaction to this week's events is sympathy for Gee, whom he became friends with during spring training.

"You just feel sorry for him and wish the best for him," Harvey said. "That's all that I got out of the whole thing."

But it could mean far more for Harvey than he is letting on.

—Jared Diamond contributed to this article.
Write to Brian Costa at brian.costa@wsj.com


Jared Diamond?! Stringing for the WSJ Mets beat?!

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 13 2012 08:59 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:

Jared Diamond?! Stringing for the WSJ Mets beat?!


I think there's a chapter about the Mets in Collapse.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 13 2012 09:40 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:

Jared Diamond?! Stringing for the WSJ Mets beat?!


I think there's a chapter about the Mets in Collapse.


Good one!

I really liked Guns Germs and Steel, by the way.

Ashie62
Jul 13 2012 10:02 AM
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Matt Harvey! The other Mike Pelfrey...

G-Fafif
Jul 15 2012 03:28 PM
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Speedo Tracksuit reveals some among 25 guys working and traveling in close quarters in jobs where competitive instincts are a prerequisite are not always thrilled with one another or their situations, go figure.

ATLANTA — Aug. 1, and not a day before: That is the earliest we will consider believing this Mets movie is different from the two bombs they dropped in 2010 and ’11. Has this grim weekend not underscored the risk of drawing early conclusions?

We are not alone in these thoughts. Despite all the quotes from players and team officials about better vibes at Citi Field, there is a fairly high level of trepidation in some corners of the organization about dark weeks ahead. Consecutive losses to the Braves after the All-Star break, defined by pitching failures, validate the concern.

The Mets are glad to have a young team, happy there are no veterans asking publicly to be traded, as Jeff Francoeur and Luis Castillo did in 2010 (this year’s club is not without its surly older players, but most discord remains in-house). But they also know that youth, the same element that gives life in the spring, can sap it in the summer, when kids unaccustomed to 162 games wear down.

Mets officials love Kirk Nieuwenhuis’ makeup, but see a fading rookie with far too many strikeouts. They still believe in Lucas Duda’s power potential, but consider his defense in right field unacceptable, and are trying to convince him to stop attempting home run thunder with every swing.

They like Jordany Valdespin’s versatility, but worry about cockiness in the clubhouse and herky-jerky hacks at the plate. They still hope that Ike Davis is a future star, and say publicly that his Valley Fever is no longer an issue — but believe me, the Mets are monitoring Davis’ health, and wondering how it might be tested by relentless summer heat.

Pile all these concerns on top of one another, without even mentioning the bullpen or rotation, and it is simply too soon to say we were wrong in predicting irrelevance, no matter how many times the Mets crush Jonathan Papelbon’s spirit or speak of a brighter vibe at Citi Field.

Hey, New York is a savvy baseball city, but not without its dumb narrative traps. Each spring for the past two years, the town has bought Mets’ first-half hope that is equal parts organic and synthetic, created by a combination of decent play and our willingness to regurgitate story-assisting spin.

The script, predictable as a Hollywood rom-com, proceeds like this: In May and June, the team wins more games than the media sourpusses thought it would, and the fellas in the clubhouse tell us how well they are getting along, so much better than in other years. We should have learned by now that these story lines are too fast and too easy.

But the time to hesitate in judging is nearly through: In about two weeks, it will be safer to say whether this team is capable of accomplishing more than its recent predecessors.

Conveniently, and somewhat remarkably, these Mets will face a nearly identical test to the one that confronted them at the end of July two seasons ago: a long journey west. On July 15, 2010, a 48-40 team began a three-city swing through San Francisco, Arizona and Los Angeles.

Two wins and nine losses later, the Mets flew home amid club-generated rumors that coaches would be sacrificed. Within weeks, the clubhouse devolved into a Lord of the Flies-style survival game, with anonymous sniping, players annoyed with coaches, coaches annoyed with each other and a 79-83 finish that felt much worse.

This year, following a challenging week of games against the Braves, Nationals and Dodgers, the Mets will close July with a three-city march through the National League West, facing two strong teams in the Giants and Diamondbacks, and last-place San Diego.
By the middle of that trip, we will know if this year is special, or merely another dud, a reminder that first-half bubbles don’t often remain inflated.

“It’s a different cast of characters (than in 2010),” one team official said. “Let’s see how they respond to a similar challenge.”

Ceetar
Jul 15 2012 03:34 PM
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The script, predictable as a Hollywood rom-com, proceeds like this: In May and June, the team wins more games than the media sourpusses thought it would, and the fellas in the clubhouse tell us how well they are getting along, so much better than in other years. We should have learned by now that these story lines are too fast and too easy.


This one is nice. He's basically saying he was lazy and sloppy with the storylines early, while starting to justify his "The Mets aren't good enough" story line that he had planned all along.

bmfc1
Jul 15 2012 04:27 PM
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He's just back from a month paternity leave and he's an expert again?

Edgy MD
Jul 15 2012 04:37 PM
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I don't know if he is or isn't an expert, but that column is awful. It promises fact and delivers opinion. And you can't discern after three readings where he's giving you the opinion of Mets management, the (somehow consensus) opinion of players, or merely his own.

Gosh, the Mets are monitoring Ike Davis' health. How terrible.

Fman99
Jul 15 2012 06:56 PM
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Douchy Hack wrote:
Pile all these concerns on top of one another, without even mentioning the bullpen or rotation, and it is simply too soon to say we were wrong in predicting irrelevance, no matter how many times the Mets crush Jonathan Papelbon’s spirit or speak of a brighter vibe at Citi Field.


I don't even know what this means. Clumsier than a Daniel-Murphy-in-left-field appearance.

bmfc1
Jul 20 2012 08:12 AM
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Sherman, today:
They have duplicity with, say, a lefty-hitting second baseman. But the industry knows the Mets have had multiple disciplinary problems with Jordany Valdespin and that arbitration eligible Daniel Murphy is about to get expensive for a defensively deficient player without power. With Matt Den Dekker coming, the Mets should definitely make available fellow lefty-hitting outfielder Kirk Nieuwenhuis (viewed as a fourth outfielder in the industry) and maybe even Lucas Duda. Duda’s real position, first base, is blocked by Ike Davis.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/no_ ... z21Ai5iYSF

Why "disciplinary problems" is he talking about with Jordany? I know he's a hot head and there are temperament issues, but the phrase he uses typically goes with NFL or college players and guns, drugs, or domestic violence. Am I unaware of some issue(s) or is Sherman overstating things?

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 08:14 AM
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Sherman, today:
They have duplicity with, say, a lefty-hitting second baseman. But the industry knows the Mets have had multiple disciplinary problems with Jordany Valdespin and that arbitration eligible Daniel Murphy is about to get expensive for a defensively deficient player without power. With Matt Den Dekker coming, the Mets should definitely make available fellow lefty-hitting outfielder Kirk Nieuwenhuis (viewed as a fourth outfielder in the industry) and maybe even Lucas Duda. Duda’s real position, first base, is blocked by Ike Davis.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/no_ ... z21Ai5iYSF

Why "disciplinary problems" is he talking about with Jordany? I know he's a hot head and there are temperament issues, but the phrase he uses typically goes with NFL or college players and guns, drugs, or domestic violence. Am I unaware of some issue(s) or is Sherman overstating things?


It's the temperament thing. I've heard this said, a lot,(going back to before 2011 Spring Training) but I've never heard of specific incidents. He's always seen fine to me.

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 08:22 AM
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It's all there in the narrative of my parenthood. The specifics aren't clear but you get the timeline. He appears to have been following Wally Backman up the ladder in the Mets' system, so he's been Wally's headache on like three different teams now, and when Wally MF Backman has to warn you about getting your temper under control, you're a loose cannon.

As former field manager for the Mets farm system, Terry knows exactly what he's dealing with.

G-Fafif
Jul 23 2012 04:34 AM
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Speedo Tracksuit confirms thing you weren't wondering about isn't an issue. Great reporting!

NY Mets are fading in the pennant race, but are closing racial divide in the clubhouse

Frank Francisco confirms white and Latino players harmonious in Flushing in far cry from Paul Lo Duca/Carlos Degado rift years ago

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

SUNDAY, JULY 22, 2012, 11:28 PM


When Red Sox pitcher Vicente Padilla accused Mark Teixeira of racial insensitivity a few weeks back, he pulled Frank Francisco into the story, too. The Mets’ closer was rehabbing in Port St. Lucie, Fla., then, but working at Citi Field over the weekend, so I could finally ask him: What was that about?

More important, Padilla’s comments created a fresh chance to dive into the loaded dynamic between white and Latino players — and to learn that said dynamic has improved inside the Mets clubhouse since the Paul Lo Duca/Carlos Delgado years.

This is not relevant to the standings. Harmonious or not, these banged-up Mets are sinking; the weekend’s sweep by the Dodgers, ending with Sunday’s 8-3 loss in 12 innings, provided further confirmation. But while the team has stagnated on the field, it has made progress in more difficult areas.

First, the back story that has us talking about this again: Padilla told NESN.com this about his former Texas Rangers teammate:

“The things (Teixeira has) done, against the Latinos, he doesn’t open his mouth about. ... He also had problems with Frank Francisco, our closer back then.”

Teixeira called the charges “completely erroneous.” On Sunday, the closer acknowledged tension surrounding Teixeira in Arlington, but said he did not personally see race as the cause.

“I never had a problem with him,” the thoughtful closer told me. “I know, like, most of the Latinos didn’t like him.”

But as Francisco saw it, the issue was less loaded — a clubhouse card game that sometimes extended past the accepted window of 45 minutes before game time.

“We used to play cards, and he didn’t like the game,” Francisco said. “It wasn’t Latin. It was me, Marlon Byrd, Kenny Lofton. We used to play together.

“I never had a problem with (Teixeira),” he added. “He didn’t have a problem with me. It was with Kenny Lofton. Teixeira (had) three years in the big leagues back then, and Kenny Lofton was playing forever. Kenny Lofton said something to him, and he said, ‘Kenny, go back to your locker.’”

But let’s cut a few layers deeper than old Rangers drama, and use the Padilla flap as another reminder of the cultural misunderstandings that divide major league clubhouses. Speaking generally about baseball teams and not the 2012 Mets, R.A. Dickey, who played with Teixeira and Francisco in Texas, agreed that race can be an “elephant in the room” in baseball.

“You feel the segregation going on in the clubhouse,” Dickey said. “It is natural to hang out with people of your own culture, and there is nothing wrong with that. But the way it gets toxic is when it keeps you from interacting with your other teammates.”

The Dominican-born Francisco agreed with his Tennessee colleague. “Sometimes Latinos have their own group,” the closer said. “Same culture. We have more in common, and probably talk about stuff that happened over there.”

Both pitchers denied racial awkwardness in this year’s Mets clubhouse. “Honestly, here it’s one of the best,” Francisco said. “I’ve been on like five different teams, including the minor leagues, and here ... everybody gets along good.”

Other seasons were messier. The way a longtime Met laid it out for me Sunday, there were lingering white/Latino tensions as recently as 2010.

The dynamic, as described by the player, was this: Some white Mets grumbled that their Latino teammates received excessive playing time and contracts during the Omar Minaya era (a ridiculous assertion to anyone who knows the fair-minded Minaya). Still, those feelings engendered the same “they’re taking our jobs” paranoia that underlies the larger debate over immigration in America.

Now, with mostly different personnel, disagreements involve simpler issues like the volume of a clubhouse stereo. “Some guys like the music, but I guarantee (others) here, they don’t like it,” Francisco said, chuckling. “They don’t like all that loud (stuff).”

But the closer believes that on issues of cultural awareness, his team is in a good place.

“We spend more time together than with our family,” Francisco said. “We’ve had to learn how to respect each other, and understand that everybody came from different cultures.”

As for Padilla dragging him into this conversation, Francisco laughed while remembering a pitcher famous for head-hunting.

“He’s different,” Francisco said. “The only problem was, he hits people all the time. Besides that, great guy.”

bmfc1
Jul 23 2012 05:05 AM
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"It wasn't an issue until I told you about it and now it's not an issue. Look at me!"

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 05:34 AM
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Tracky wasn't exactly on the job in the LoDuca/Delgado era.

Ceetar
Jul 23 2012 06:51 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Tracky wasn't exactly on the job in the LoDuca/Delgado era.


so his perception of it is purely from the other beat writers/narrative. Which he admits (I think?) by calling it a loaded dynamic?

And then finds some way to tie in a political reference about immigration! win!

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 07:15 AM
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More important, Padilla’s comments created a fresh chance to dive into the loaded dynamic between white and Latino players — and to learn that said dynamic has improved inside the Mets clubhouse since the Paul Lo Duca/Carlos Delgado years.


This is a pretty awkward transition.

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 07:27 AM
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Also, is the implication that Delgado and LoDuco were the specific antagonists during that period or are they just being used as examples to set the era?

MFS62
Jul 23 2012 07:39 AM
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I wonder who the "longtime Met" is.

Later

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 07:50 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Also, is the implication that Delgado and LoDuco were the specific antagonists during that period or are they just being used as examples to set the era?

Yeah, just leave loaded implications out there, and we're supposed to nod knowingly as if we know specifically what he's referring to, and we don't.

LoDuca was a big-mouthed go-to guy for the beat writers, and then, during a losing streak, he complained that they don't go to the Latino guys. "They speak English, believe me," I believe, was his quote.

That's all I got, and it was unclear even then how much hostility was meant. But I can't get from there to the matter-of fact grumbling of whiteys over playing time given to Latinos.

Ceetar
Jul 23 2012 07:52 AM
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That comment from Lo Duca always seemed more a dig at the media guys laziness than a knock at his teammates. But I could see how they wouldn't want to spin it that way.

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 07:58 AM
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Agreed on both counts.

But it was also a statement of his frustration with being the spokesman he was always happy to be when things were going well.

Ceetar
Jul 23 2012 08:08 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Agreed on both counts.

But it was also a statement of his frustration with being the spokesman he was always happy to be when things were going well.


well yeah, which is why it happened in 2007 and not 2006. ;-)

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 09:15 AM
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And is Delgado being included here for his Toronto-era comments about 'GBA' being installed as the 7th inning stretch song during the post-9/11 era and all the attached side issues there?
Carlos might have meant a lot of things by his comments but I'm not sure anti-white was one of them.

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 09:32 AM
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Tracky's being slacky. And not a little bit tacky.

bmfc1
Aug 01 2012 09:03 AM
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Martino with another anonymous quote. From the game story:

This, in a game that was in some ways a truer test than Harvey’s major league debut in Arizona last Thursday. That night, Harvey was finally living what he had waited most of his 23 years for, revved up and throwing 98 miles per hour, which he does not usually do.

As one teammate put it, “He looked great, had great poise, but he also got lucky” in striking out 11 Arizona Diamondbacks, a franchise record for a Met debut.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z22J5v6MkB

Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 01 2012 05:19 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
Martino with another anonymous quote. From the game story:

This, in a game that was in some ways a truer test than Harvey’s major league debut in Arizona last Thursday. That night, Harvey was finally living what he had waited most of his 23 years for, revved up and throwing 98 miles per hour, which he does not usually do.

As one teammate put it, “He looked great, had great poise, but he also got lucky” in striking out 11 Arizona Diamondbacks, a franchise record for a Met debut.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z22J5v6MkB



That's a lazy cheap shot. I've vented at length on this topic over the years. But if I guy doesn't want to stand behind his words, then don't quote him. We're not dealing with Watergate and Deep Throat here. This isn't a source worth going to jail to protect the identity over.

It's about accountability for both the player AND Martino. I know this is rampant in the sports pages, but if reporters started growing a pair -- and gained some integrity -- it would happen a lot less.

I've known at least one reporter at a paper I've worked made up quotes and sources. He was fired, and he should have been. We have no guarantee that Martino isn't making this crap up because no one will call him on it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 12 2012 01:20 PM
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The mug of the (new?) Newsday Mets beat guy, Mark Carig (or maybe Butch Huskey). I can't read his articles online but the Twitter makes him seem fairly ambitious.

I've been riding my bike to work almost every day and as a result don;t need something to read on the commute so I've been missing Tracky.

Edgy MD
Sep 12 2012 01:23 PM
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If he's truly ambitious, he can be the next beat reporter to put Mike Francesa to sleep.

[youtube:13dnmb00]aAONQyJWC-8[/youtube:13dnmb00]

G-Fafif
Sep 12 2012 02:11 PM
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Carig Tweeted something the other night that included the phrase "should of," which may have been some kind of in-joke that his MFY followers got, but was discouraging enough to make him the most briefly followed Mets beat writer in history (albeit my history). It was the same night I read a well-respected sportswriter use "jive" for jibe, noticed SNY couldn't spell "Tommie" and read a piece of analysis that was attacked for being "overly analytic". So this fucker can keep his cutesy "should of" BS off my fucking timeline.

(Also, some vigilant copy editor at Newsday changed his name and email address to "Craig" on his second article for them, so there ya go.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 12 2012 02:18 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
If he's truly ambitious, he can be the next beat reporter to put Mike Francesa to sleep.

[youtube]aAONQyJWC-8[/youtube]


That's great. Usually when Sweeney's on, Francessa never lets him get a word in because Mike can't stand to look as though he can possibly be informed of anything regarding the MFYs, since he already knows it, particularly better than some wet-behind-the-ears beat jockey. I guess this clip shows as much as well.

Frayed Knot
Sep 12 2012 02:22 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
That's great. Usually when Sweeney's on, Francessa never lets him get a word in because Mike can't stand to look as though he can possibly be informed of anything regarding the MFYs, since he already knows it, particularly better than some wet-behind-the-ears beat jockey.


Francesa does that with everyone concerning every sport; his interviews don't ask questions, they make statements in order to see if the interviewee agrees with him.
Just because Sweeny has been doing this for 10 years or so doesn't get him off the hook.

G-Fafif
Sep 12 2012 02:23 PM
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I sympathize with Mike Francesa. Listening to the Mike Francesa show often makes me drowsy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 12 2012 03:04 PM
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I think his know-it-all tendencies are most apparent during Sweeny's reports, a lot of them lately are just Mike interrupting then lecturing the poor guy.

Frayed Knot
Sep 12 2012 04:19 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I think his know-it-all tendencies are most apparent during Sweeny's reports, a lot of them lately are just Mike interrupting then lecturing the poor guy.


True, but the differences are mostly just a matter of degrees.

The funny thing in that clip is that when MF does snap out of it he appears to be pissed at the behind-the-scenes guys for allowing him to nod off in the first place.

Edgy MD
Oct 05 2012 02:13 PM
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Brian Costa leaving the Mets beat at WSJ to become their national baseball writer.

WSJ, since covering baseball, seems to get as much wrong as anybody, but I applaud them for taking new angles and asking new (and often bigger) questions.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 05 2012 02:21 PM
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I read a full article on Newsday.com the other day. Did they quietly (or maybe not-so-quietly) end the paid subscription requirement?

Ceetar
Oct 05 2012 02:38 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I read a full article on Newsday.com the other day. Did they quietly (or maybe not-so-quietly) end the paid subscription requirement?


long long time ago I think.

Edgy DC wrote:
Brian Costa leaving the Mets beat at WSJ to become their national baseball writer.

WSJ, since covering baseball, seems to get as much wrong as anybody, but I applaud them for taking new angles and asking new (and often bigger) questions.


Well yeah, they didn't want to make waves by not getting half of it wrong.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 05 2012 02:46 PM
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No, I got half an article from Newsday just today. I think it depends on the content.

G-Fafif
Oct 05 2012 03:09 PM
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Newsday still has the requirement but the mobile site doesn't. You can read that for free.

Edgy MD
Nov 14 2012 07:15 AM
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Mike Kerwick: I'll show you how to rock a fedora,
Martino.

Edgy MD
Mar 07 2013 06:38 PM
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That Adam Rubin can be quite the provocateur.

Mo Gift from Mets? After Chipper, Why Not?


Um, cuz. Now go write about baseball.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 08 2013 08:54 AM
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Andy Martino reports that: March 7, 2013 7:45 AM
NY Mets could have moved Jon Niese instead of R.A. Dickey;

excerpt:

Here’s a good New York baseball debate for you: Would you have rather traded Jon Niese, instead of R.A. Dickey, to Toronto for Travis d’Arnaud and Noah Syndergaard?

Turns out that the Mets had that choice. While Niese faced Team Venezuela Wednesday in Port St. Lucie, two people with direct knowledge of last December’s deal told me that the Blue Jays were willing to send the same package to New York in exchange for Niese.

“Toronto has loved Niese for years,” one source said. “They absolutely would have done that.”


http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/baseba ... l-steinbre

metirish
Mar 08 2013 09:03 AM
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I'm not buying that for a second, anyway our own Greg responds wit this beauty.

http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2 ... not-taken/

themetfairy
Mar 08 2013 09:21 AM
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That was actually by Jason.

But yes - well rebutted.

Farmer Ted
Mar 08 2013 09:27 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 08 2013 09:31 AM

I really miss Pulitzer quality shit like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXOaCI0GxM

or this guy...

http://bombersbeat.mlblogs.com/author/m ... bersbeat1/

metirish
Mar 08 2013 09:29 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
That was actually by Jason.

But yes - well rebutted.



My bad, I'm just so used to it being Greg.....

themetfairy
Mar 08 2013 09:30 AM
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Especially during the offseason/preseason.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 08 2013 09:32 AM
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Assuming Martino's story is accurate, it's hard to tell if the Mets did the right thing. You'd need to know what the Mets could've then gotten for Dickey from another team. If, for example, some other team was willing to part with an elite prospect (or two) for Dickey, then the Mets migh'tve been well served to send Niese to Toronto.

metirish
Mar 08 2013 09:38 AM
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There's that, but it looks like Toronto is "going for it now" as they say then Dickey is who you want right?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 08 2013 11:53 AM
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I know it's not exactly the same but what I always come back to is that we received 2 solid prospects and a serviceable ML catcher for Dickey at the same age he was when Tom Fucking Seaver cost Charlie Puleo and 2 minor league scrubs.

As for Niese vs. Dickey, it's probably similar value, just spread out differently. I wouldn't move him either without a great haul coming back.

Edgy MD
Mar 08 2013 12:19 PM
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Well, I kind of think we got the serviceable major league catcher in exchange for a partly serviceable major league catcher (Thole) and an un-serviceable one (Nickeas).

Don't forget the Wuilmer Becerra sauce, too, though,

This trade is challenge enough to weigh without Martino trolling the waters with Niese. His source being two un-named foks, without even hinting as to their affiliations, doesn't give me confidence. Even the one quote he gets from the two sounds highly speculative.

G-Fafif
Mar 08 2013 12:36 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I know it's not exactly the same but what I always come back to is that we received 2 solid prospects and a serviceable ML catcher for Dickey at the same age he was when Tom Fucking Seaver cost Charlie Puleo and 2 minor league scrubs.


Yeah, but look what we got from the White Sox for Seaver!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 11 2013 08:58 AM
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I didn't see if this has been acknowledged already and I won't start buying papers again for a few weeks probably but Tracky has officially graduated to the role of "MLB Insider" at the Snooze and Kristie Ackert has taken over official Beat duties.

Edgy MD
Mar 11 2013 09:02 AM
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I think she's switching beats mid-spring.

What I've seen her doing on the Yankee side has been pretty solid, I think.

Ceetar
Mar 11 2013 09:07 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I didn't see if this has been acknowledged already and I won't start buying papers again for a few weeks probably but Tracky has officially graduated to the role of "MLB Insider" at the Snooze and Kristie Ackert has taken over official Beat duties.


I'd seen her retweeted, but had no idea why.

@Kristieackert on Twitter.



She apparently was once a reporter for the Modesto Bee.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 13 2013 12:26 PM
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Tweet illustrates that she requires a good editor:

Kristieackert ?@Kristieackert
Matt Harvet gave up three runs, two earned on three hits, incld a home run. He walked on and struck out five. 66 pitches 45 strikes. #Mets
Expand

Edgy MD
Dec 17 2013 12:59 PM
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Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
Bartolo Colon ate #Mets team doctors today, thereby passing his physical. He's officially a Met.

G-Fafif
Dec 17 2013 03:28 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
Bartolo Colon ate #Mets team doctors today, thereby passing his physical. He's officially a Met.


Why not "passed a buffet today and as a result passed his physical"? Or "passed his physical and immediately went on the 15-day DL. He's officially a Met"? "Ate team doctors," even in the realm of stupid-ass nonsense is stupid-ass nonsense.

Edgy MD
Dec 17 2013 03:32 PM
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There are probably few beat reporters who don't fancy they have a side-career working the one-liner circuit. And therefore Twitter is almost too ideal a venue for them. I apologize for reposting here, but heck, we had a whole thread of that junk.

Fman99
Dec 17 2013 07:47 PM
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Yabbut ours were all way funnier. I'm hucking (virtual) tomaters at this guy.

Edgy MD
Dec 17 2013 08:11 PM
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I HEAR YA!

G-Fafif
Dec 18 2013 05:31 AM
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As individuals, they may be a scream. As a class, these guys generally hide their hilarity well, particularly when they try to show how much they have. No crime in that except maybe when you rub your hands together with glee before hitting the key that tells the world that -- get this! -- Bartolo Colon ate multiple doctors.

Ceetar
Dec 18 2013 08:26 AM
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reminder that Jared Diamond is probably the best beat writer follow on Twitter. Friendly, doesn't seem to take himself too seriously, and seems to write some fairly intelligent stuff, or at least stuff that he's put thought behind.

metirish
Dec 18 2013 08:32 AM
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The one liners are ok, silly yes. what I can't stand is the condescending and snarky tone several beat writers take regarding the Mets......Puma being one in particular. It is as if being on the Mets beat is a hateful job.Every Mets move or non-move or rumor gets greeted with shitty one liners. It's lame.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 18 2013 10:58 PM
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Funny with a little bit more than a little bit of insight? Marc Carig, if you please.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 19 2013 12:20 AM
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metirish wrote:
The one liners are ok, silly yes. what I can't stand is the condescending and snarky tone several beat writers take regarding the Mets......Puma being one in particular. It is as if being on the Mets beat is a hateful job.Every Mets move or non-move or rumor gets greeted with shitty one liners. It's lame.


Believe it or not, but even I get bored of ragging on the Wilpons. But the Mets deserve every single ounce of snark they're getting. This is a debacle ... a fiasco ... an embarrasenent .... on a grand scale, in the greatest city in the world, in America's largest market. On most days, it would seem as if this franchise can't do anything right.

metirish
Dec 19 2013 07:54 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 19 2013 08:05 AM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
metirish wrote:
The one liners are ok, silly yes. what I can't stand is the condescending and snarky tone several beat writers take regarding the Mets......Puma being one in particular. It is as if being on the Mets beat is a hateful job.Every Mets move or non-move or rumor gets greeted with shitty one liners. It's lame.


Believe it or not, but even I get bored of ragging on the Wilpons. But the Mets deserve every single ounce of snark they're getting. This is a debacle ... a fiasco ... an embarrasenent .... on a grand scale, in the greatest city in the world, in America's largest market. On most days, it would seem as if this franchise can't do anything right.



Perhaps, I would think the beat writers would hold themselves to a higher standard, obviously not though.

Edgy MD
Dec 19 2013 08:01 AM
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Not for nothing, but playing to the greatest-city-in-the-world/most-knowledgeable-sports-fans/we-deserve-the-best sense of entitlement has led more than a few sportswriters to go off the rails and take a chunk of the fan base with them.

Ashie62
Dec 19 2013 07:14 PM
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Its easier to just ignore the reporters and bloggers and define the team on your own terms.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 19 2013 07:29 PM
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SUCKS TO INFORMATION AND BREAKING NEWS!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 28 2014 11:49 AM
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Bergen Record's Mike Kerwick is hanging up his fedora.

[url]http://blog.northjersey.com/mets/2267/goodbye-and-thank-you/

Edgy MD
Jan 28 2014 12:00 PM
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So being a corporate social media director > being a baseball beat writer. Huh. Tells you where the industry is, I guess.

We had a kid doing our social media who still had his schoolboy bacne. I loved him but they dumped him after six months.

E-mail Kerwick a Pool invite.

Ceetar
Jan 28 2014 12:12 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
So being a corporate social media director > being a baseball beat writer. Huh. Tells you where the industry is, I guess.

We had a kid doing our social media who still had his schoolboy bacne. I loved him but they dumped him after six months.

E-mail Kerwick a Pool invite.


well if you factor in travel and wanting to start a real life or something I guess. but probably too. Is that what he's doing? I didn't see it mentioned.

As someone who dabbles in social media and SEO recreationally, I'm extremely skeptical of the 'pros'. It seems like a very touch and go field and one that does require a fair amount of executive buy in to work successfully.

Ceetar
Feb 19 2014 07:14 PM
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newest dude is [url]https://twitter.com/MattEhalt Matt Ehalt for the Record. I've forgotten already who he's replacing. But I'd have a hard time connecting writer->paper overall I think.

Edgy MD
Feb 19 2014 08:00 PM
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It's one post UP!

G-Fafif
Feb 20 2014 08:16 AM
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New Star-Ledger/nj.com guy Mike Vorkunov wrote the other day of David Wright's workout "regiment," which tells me either the Captain is really taking his title seriously -- lining up all the enlisted men for jumping jacks -- or a relatively major metropolitan daily hired a reporter (and an editor) who can't distinguish regiment from regimen. (Or, to be charitable, maybe auto-correct kicked in and these things happen...but probably not.)

It wasn't that long ago that the reporter was touting his MFY fandom in the hopes of landing a sportswriting job. I guess it works.

If the MFYs of the '70s were around in the '30s, headline writers might have referred to them as the REGGIEMEN.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 20 2014 08:44 AM
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Jesus. The word "offseason" is spelled incorrectly in that article. Twice!

Edgy MD
Feb 20 2014 08:57 AM
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Maybe that's just David's Tidewater dialect coming through.

G-Fafif
Feb 20 2014 09:40 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Maybe that's just David's Tidewater dialect coming through.


...the Met captain said, before declining an opportunity to impress this Jeter-loving reporter by making him eat a spoonful of cinnamont.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 09 2014 03:10 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
So being a corporate social media director > being a baseball beat writer. Huh. Tells you where the industry is, I guess.

We had a kid doing our social media who still had his schoolboy bacne. I loved him but they dumped him after six months.

E-mail Kerwick a Pool invite.


So today for my job I went out to a grocery store in New Jersey. Who was there to greet me but corporate pr guy Mike Kerwick. I didn't recognize him without the fedora.

Nice guy! Gave me a little insight into the org, said his relationship with the Wilpons was rough because Klapisch (his columnist colleague) was always killing them. Said Sandy left him a very nice message when he departed the beat but was difficult to get one on one at any other time.

Also today, an unidentified source told me Joel Sherman gets leaks from JP Riccardi.

Ceetar
Apr 09 2014 03:21 PM
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Don't think I'd recognize him if I ran into him in a jersey supermarket. ( Hell, Jason Heyward supposedly lives in my town.)

Interesting though. I bet it's hard to really get leaks and sources if you're not one of the in guys already though. There are just so many guys.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 09 2014 07:30 PM
Re: Beat Crazy

I have a feeling you might have a slightly easier time picking out Jason Heyward.

Ceetar
Apr 09 2014 07:42 PM
Re: Beat Crazy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
I have a feeling you might have a slightly easier time picking out Jason Heyward.


yeah. That's probably true. But I'm the guy that was in an elevator in Jupiter with two Atlanta Braves and had no clue.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 26 2014 05:10 AM
Re: Beat Crazy

Slightly related to the "One 86 Met said" controversy, the team apparently wouldn't talk to any media last night until Mike "The Puma" Puma left the room. Snooze reports:

Apparently angry about an article in the New York Post on Friday about Bartolo Colon under the headline “LARDBALL,” the players would not talk to the media until Post writer Mike Puma left the clubhouse. Puma was asked to leave and did so without incident. Within a minute, several Mets appeared in the clubhouse. The team would not comment on the incident.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z2zzR0ja1P


edit: also, "PRAISE THE LARD"

Edgy MD
Apr 26 2014 06:18 AM
Re: Beat Crazy

That's a pretty good got-your-back-ing by the team. If Colon shuts out Puma or the media on his own, he looks soft and weak, and they can rip him for being a-scared instead of for his gut.

Puma better get square soon, though. He can't do his job this way. ON the other hand, I'd bet he had little to do with the headline.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 26 2014 06:28 AM
Re: Beat Crazy

He was responsible for the lede: "If they checked Bartolo Colon's neck they'd only find peanut butter."

Edgy MD
Apr 26 2014 06:43 AM
Re: Beat Crazy

That's a fightin' lede for sure.

Gwreck
Apr 26 2014 10:20 AM
Re: Beat Crazy

Good for the Mets. Nice way to handle that. I hope they shut him out through the weekend; that should be enough of a message to send.

Zvon
Apr 26 2014 12:14 PM
Re: Beat Crazy

Now this is interesting. This is the kind of thing that can propel a team. I also think they should stiff him thru the weekend, but in style: by winning tonight and tomorrow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 28 2014 01:08 PM
Re: Beat Crazy

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 28 2014 01:29 PM

How come nobody mentioned that the Times had assigned some young hipster to cover the Mets?

Meet Tim Rohan:



Or Bob Seger or some shit.



Fedoras are so 2010.

Anyway, this guy has that crazy reporter knack going on, where 99% of the battle is just showing up. He interning at the Times when he got an Met game assignment in his first week that turned out to be Johan's no-hitter. Then, working as a stringer for the Times he was at the finish line of the Boston Marathon last year, and came back with some gripping stuff. I guess he took over the Mets beat for this first time this year.

Ceetar
Apr 28 2014 01:16 PM
Re: Beat Crazy

Missed him. (aren't half of them young hipsters now though?)

Been quite some turnover over the last couple of years and it's hard to keep up. I usually follow them all and unfollow at least half of them a month later.

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2014 01:21 PM
Re: Beat Crazy

Wasn't too tall, could've used a few pounds
Kepner was sick, I went town
He was a Latin lefty with deadly stuff!
With skills my own, I didn't write no fluff...

G-Fafif
Apr 28 2014 03:05 PM
Re: Beat Crazy

Rohan wrote one of the great Met features of recent years just as he latched onto the beat late in 2013 about the guy who delivers the mail within Citi Field.