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Ceetar Feb 08 2012 12:48 PM

[url]http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/support I favor Fangraphs points, but I'd be good with any of them. What are the different game types? There are 3 game types for ottoneu fantasy baseball. They differ in the categories used and the scoring methods: Old School - Rotisserie-style 5x5 (AVG, HR, RBI, SB, R and W, SV, ERA, WHIP, K). For the traditionalist in you. ottoneu Classic - Rotisserie-style 4x4 sabermetric-hybrid (OBP, SLG, HR, R and ERA, WHIP, HR/9, K). This is the stat set of the original league that has been active since 2005. FanGraphs Points - Points based on Linear Weights. Based on work by Justin Merry. Read his great FAQ about the system, or read more detailed pieces behind the hitting and pitching point values. Hitting AB -1.0 H 5.6 2B 2.9 3B 5.7 HR 9.4 BB 3.0 HBP 3.0 SB 1.9 CS -2.8 Pitching IP 7.4 K 2.0 H -2.6 BB -3.0 HBP -3.0 HR -12.3 SV 5.0 HOLDS 4.0

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 08 2012 01:21 PM Re: Ottoneu

Classic 4x4

Ceetar Feb 10 2012 11:37 AM Re: Ottoneu

Okay, can we get some thoughts on which type of league, 4x4 or fangraphs points? also, when would be best for a draft? I think you can pause the draft and pick it up another night, so maybe a couple of tuesday nights in mid-march or something?

smg58 Feb 10 2012 12:45 PM Re: Ottoneu

Do we have a head count? Not sure I'd want to do two nights a draft, but I'll go with it if that works better for most of us. I'd vote for standard 5x5 for simplicity, but the other options are intriguing too and I'd be OK with whatever is voted for.

Ceetar Feb 10 2012 12:47 PM Re: Ottoneu

I'm going to take a 'head count' as per posting in this thread. But I'll create a league as soon as there is a prevailing majority towards type of stats to use and we can argue about the draft after that.

metsmarathon Feb 10 2012 01:17 PM Re: Ottoneu

in. any format. each is appealing in its own way. points rewards player goodness over roster strategy, and i waffle on whether thats a good or a bad thing. its less challenging in some ways, but also levels the playing field for those who are not hard-core fantasizers.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 10 2012 01:22 PM Re: Ottoneu

I don't wanna do a system based on Linear Weights when I can't get that shit on the crawl. The 4x4 classic to me looks like a good compromise between sophisticated and easy to understand.

Vic Sage Feb 10 2012 02:54 PM Re: Ottoneu

5x5, or 4x4. I don't want to use a slide rule to figure out who to draft or how i'm doing. 1 nite draft; i can't dedicate 2 nights to this.

Ashie62 Feb 10 2012 07:58 PM Re: Ottoneu

4x4 5x5 1 night

Fman99 Feb 10 2012 08:20 PM Re: Ottoneu

Ashie62 wrote: 4x4 5x5 1 night This would be my preference also. Lean towards 4x4 as a change from my usual 5x5 action. One night, please.

Ceetar Feb 10 2012 08:50 PM Re: Ottoneu

so 4x4 sounds good. I only suggested the second night thing because I wasn't sure how long these things can go for. I mean the 30+ rounds are mostly going to be us drafting AA guys we've barely heard of.

metsmarathon Feb 10 2012 09:47 PM Re: Ottoneu

if people don't want to hang out for the whole thing, so be it, provided it can auto draft. besides, would we really want to waste a second night just to draft those 30 rounds of AA players none of us have ever heard of?

Vic Sage Feb 11 2012 09:03 AM Re: Ottoneu

can't we limit draft to a 25 man roster?

Ceetar Feb 11 2012 09:32 AM Re: Ottoneu

Vic Sage wrote: can't we limit draft to a 25 man roster? Not 25, since you need 23 for a valid roster. But we can probably stick to 30ish and fill out the other 10 with prospects via free agency/waiver stuff since it'd probably be a waste of time to bid against each other for the legacy/minors guys. There is no automated part of it, you nominate the guy you want and then everyone has a chance to outbid you for him. I imagine this process will take longer than your typical Yahoo type fantasy draft, but I've never done it before So I don't know. Presumably the first couple of rounds will take a while as more people will raise the prices on the stars. d. A team's starting lineup consists of two catcher slots, one slot at each infield position (first base, second base, third base, and shortstop), five outfielder slot, one additional middle infielder (second base or shortstop) slot, one additional hitter from any position (utility slot), five starting pitcher slots, and five relief pitcher slots.

Nymr83 Feb 11 2012 08:37 PM Re: Ottoneu

I've never done an auction online, but for a NL only league with 10 teams and 24 spots it usually takes us about 8 hours offline to do our auction.

Ashie62 Feb 14 2012 09:45 AM Re: Ottoneu

Not interested..out

metsmarathon Feb 14 2012 11:22 AM Re: Ottoneu

i imagine hte online auction will hasten things up a tad... maybe not a whole lot, i guess, but a bit. regardless, i'm willing to give it a try. what the fuck, right?

smg58 Feb 14 2012 11:45 AM Re: Ottoneu

Maybe instead of an auction, each owner has two minutes to place one bid on a player, and whoever bids the highest gets him?

metsmarathon Feb 14 2012 11:47 AM Re: Ottoneu

i think the auction is tied to the league. while that's a novel concept, it would only work with either a custom application, or an offline draft.

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 12:01 PM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: i think the auction is tied to the league. while that's a novel concept, it would only work with either a custom application, or an offline draft. yeah, tied to the league. We can pick a time and if people need to bail we can always suspend and pick it up another day. We do all have to get legal rosters through the draft I believe, but we can fill out the ends via free agency bidding, which is basically the same auction/bidding logic just drawn out over 2 days allowing other owners to outbid you. I'll set up the 4x4 tonight/tomorrow, and we can see if we need to add a couple of teams and pick a draft date.

metsmarathon Feb 14 2012 01:09 PM Re: Ottoneu

maybe what we could do is block off an evening early in spring training, see how far we get, and suspend it for a few weeks to pick up the rest of our rosters if the draft takes too long. it runs the risk of not having a full spring's worth of knowledge and scouting and what not on those early rounds, and of having a high pick felled by early injury, but it might make it much more manageable. it also will help with the later rounds as we'll have a better picture of who's on what teams.

Nymr83 Feb 14 2012 01:34 PM Re: Ottoneu

Prefer 5x5 over 4x4... No thanks on the more complicated system mentioned above. If I can see how my players did by looking at the box score on my phone I'm likely to be less interested as the year goes on. I'm firmly a "maybe" at this point... Waiting to see what the draft situation (logistics) will be and the keeper rules. If no keepers we should just go back for another season of yahoo instead of everyone creating an account and having a new website to check

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 01:38 PM Re: Ottoneu

Nymr83 wrote: Prefer 5x5 over 4x4... No thanks on the more complicated system mentioned above. If I can see how my players did by looking at the box score on my phone I'm likely to be less interested as the year goes on. I'm firmly a "maybe" at this point... Waiting to see what the draft situation (logistics) will be and the keeper rules. If no keepers we should just go back for another season of yahoo instead of everyone creating an account and having a new website to check Can keep as many guys as you want. Can cut guys for free in the offseason. I believe you also lose one player that gets voted off your team by the other owners.

Nymr83 Feb 14 2012 04:26 PM Re: Ottoneu

Can that "feature" be turned off? I don't like the idea of the league forcing you to drop your best player

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 04:45 PM Re: Ottoneu

Can that "feature" be turned off? I don't like the idea of the league forcing you to drop your best player No, unless we trusted all owners to vote 'no one'. It's supposed to maintain competitive balance. You do get a $5 discount on this player though, a hometown discount. If you successfully re-win the player at auction, you get him for $5 less than you paid. This is a post about the auction draft: [url]http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/ottoneu-how-to-the-auction-draft/ Basically take turns nominating a guy, 15 seconds for everyone else to change the bid and reset the 15 seconds.

metsmarathon Feb 14 2012 07:13 PM Re: Ottoneu

i think the point of that is not necessarily to give the boot to your best player, but perhaps your most underpaid player. if you have albert pujols for $1, we're probably gonna vote him off. but if you have him for $100, well, if that's how you wanna spend your cap space, who are we to argue? i like it, especially for the first year as we try to figure things out. besides, maybe we'll all be gentlemanly, and vote for noone, or agree in advance to vote for noone, and if anybody violates it, then we shun them and give 'em the stinkeye.

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 07:56 PM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: i think the point of that is not necessarily to give the boot to your best player, but perhaps your most underpaid player. if you have albert pujols for $1, we're probably gonna vote him off. but if you have him for $100, well, if that's how you wanna spend your cap space, who are we to argue? i like it, especially for the first year as we try to figure things out. besides, maybe we'll all be gentlemanly, and vote for noone, or agree in advance to vote for noone, and if anybody violates it, then we shun them and give 'em the stinkeye. We certainly have like 11 months to decide on that.

Nymr83 Feb 14 2012 08:16 PM Re: Ottoneu

ok, i'm as long as its on a night where i can make it to the auction.

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 08:22 PM Re: Ottoneu

Nymr83 wrote: ok, i'm as long as its on a night where i can make it to the auction. We all do have to make it, otherwise it doesn't quite work. So that should be no problem.

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 08:29 PM Re: Ottoneu

[url]http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/209/home is the league home page. the password is Hietpas [url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hietpjo01.shtml

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 14 2012 08:57 PM Re: Ottoneu

OK, I'm in too. Took a while to find where I could sign up.

Ceetar Feb 14 2012 09:00 PM Re: Ottoneu

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: OK, I'm in too. Took a while to find where I could sign up. Yeah, guess you have to have a fangraphs account too, and then join Otto Neu?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 14 2012 09:17 PM Re: Ottoneu

Sign up for fangraphs, then go to ottonue fantasy and search for the league

metsmarathon Feb 14 2012 09:34 PM Re: Ottoneu

that was only a smidge obtuse. in.

Fman99 Feb 15 2012 07:33 PM Re: Ottoneu

In!

Fman99 Feb 15 2012 07:40 PM Re: Ottoneu

Maybe I'm just intoxicated but hell. I've dated women less complicated than this draft/league.

Ceetar Feb 15 2012 08:23 PM Re: Ottoneu

Fman99 wrote: Maybe I'm just intoxicated but hell. I've dated women less complicated than this draft/league. well yeah, the more complicated ones cost more than $9.99

smg58 Feb 16 2012 05:37 AM Re: Ottoneu

In as well.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 16 2012 07:07 AM Re: Ottoneu

I changed my team name. I wasn't prepared to name the team when registering and so looked at the beer I was having and wrote "complex ale" right off the label. Team is now the Greenpoint Lunchladies. We will serve you a platter of nutritious asskick.

Ceetar Feb 16 2012 07:09 AM Re: Ottoneu

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I changed my team name. I wasn't prepared to name the team when registering and so looked at the beer I was having and wrote "complex ale" right off the label. Team is now the Greenpoint Lunchladies. We will serve you a platter of nutritious asskick. heavy helping of mystery meat?

metsmarathon Feb 16 2012 09:12 AM Re: Ottoneu

i keep reading that as greenpoint lunchlad[u:3qa5yrut]L[/u:3qa5yrut]es, and giggle at the absurdity.

metsmarathon Feb 17 2012 11:32 AM Re: Ottoneu

mind if i invite a buddy of mine into the league? this is right up his alley, and it seems like we might need the help getting a decent number of teams. he's a cards fan, but we shouldn't hold it against him too much.

Ceetar Feb 17 2012 11:58 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: mind if i invite a buddy of mine into the league? this is right up his alley, and it seems like we might need the help getting a decent number of teams. he's a cards fan, but we shouldn't hold it against him too much. Doesn't bother me. Should have plenty of room I imagine, although I haven't looked closely at how many we have since I'm on Vacation.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2012 12:18 PM Re: Ottoneu

I have a friend who might also wanna do this too, I will ask after I get back from vacay if we still need bruthas

attgig Feb 21 2012 07:48 AM Re: Ottoneu

when are you guys drafting? I may be in depending on your schedule. I just got too much going on in my life and a draft coming up this week.

metirish Feb 21 2012 11:02 AM Re: Ottoneu

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Ceetar Feb 22 2012 07:13 PM Re: Ottoneu

attgig wrote: when are you guys drafting? I may be in depending on your schedule. I just got too much going on in my life and a draft coming up this week. I return Friday from the city of sin and can focus a bit more. what draft dates are good for people? I'm fond of a weekday night personally, less likely to have major offline-engagements. 7ish? 8ish?

Fman99 Feb 22 2012 07:58 PM Re: Ottoneu

Please make it no earlier than 7:30 on a weeknight. On a weekend, I could go later.

metsmarathon Feb 22 2012 08:25 PM Re: Ottoneu

before 7:30 is tough. also the first week of march is out. i'll have a better handle on the remainder of my coming schedule once my volleyball playoff schedule is out, but those games fall midweek, tues/wed/thurs

metsmarathon Feb 26 2012 08:20 PM Re: Ottoneu

we getting any more teams? scheduling wise, i can basically do any night after the first week of march, except the 14th, 20th and 21st. the first week of march, i'm a single parent. the other three days are for volleyball playoffs.

Ceetar Feb 27 2012 05:47 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: we getting any more teams? scheduling wise, i can basically do any night after the first week of march, except the 14th, 20th and 21st. the first week of march, i'm a single parent. the other three days are for volleyball playoffs. We've got..6. yeah, would like 2 more at least. 8 is a round number right? Were there others of you that are joining that haven't yet? Also if someone wants to get a feel for the draft, I sorta accidentally claimed a team in another league that has a couple of players already, but I probably can't make their draft so if someone wanted to get a feel for it, and do me a favor..

metsmarathon Feb 28 2012 01:00 PM Re: Ottoneu

i do have some other people i could try to drag into this thing. 8 seems too few. i feel like we should have 10-12 minimum. also the more we have the less likely this'll just be a one time flash in the pan sort of thing.

Ceetar Feb 28 2012 01:34 PM Re: Ottoneu

think max is 12 anyway, although I fail to see why it can't go to 30 other than no one really wants to have to draft Willie Harris. There were more than 6 of us here that wanted in right? *pokes around* hey you! Let's give them a couple more days/this week to sign up, then we'll fill out the league with outsiders (And maybe convert them to insiders?) Do we want to target a draft day one night during the week of March 12-16th? say..the 15th at 8pm? or how about this: [url]http://www.doodle.com/xp637kg2xn65mnn3 I blocked off the two workweeks in mid-march, maybe we can find a time we're all free?

Nymr83 Feb 28 2012 08:13 PM Re: Ottoneu

the doodle thing was a good idea. i filled out my availability. i'm in if its one of those days, and you can find a replacement if its not

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 28 2012 08:42 PM Re: Ottoneu

I'm good almost any night. Asked a friend to sign up, sounds like he will.

Ceetar Feb 28 2012 09:05 PM Re: Ottoneu

8:30 start a problem for anyone else? Do we want to put a end/postpone time on it if we're not done, or push through until we have ~30 players? Mon 3/12 and Thursday 3/22 so far are the days we're all free (though someone still missing)

smg58 Feb 29 2012 08:03 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar wrote: Do we want to put a end/postpone time on it if we're not done, or push through until we have ~30 players? I think it would depend on how close we are to finishing.

Vic Sage Feb 29 2012 08:05 AM Re: Ottoneu

sorry, can't make the time commitment this year.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 29 2012 08:57 AM Re: Ottoneu

Vic Sage wrote: sorry, can't make the time commitment this year. BOOOOOOOO. You suck!

metsmarathon Feb 29 2012 12:42 PM Re: Ottoneu

what's this nonsense about time commitments?

metsmarathon Feb 29 2012 02:12 PM Re: Ottoneu

two questions: do we need exactly 12 teams in the league to be viable? mind if i invite two other players who i think might be interested? one is a mets fan, the other a red sox fan. my other frined, mohawk red flyers, is good for either of the candidate draft dates, but prefers thursday 22 march, as do i.

Ceetar Feb 29 2012 02:25 PM Re: Ottoneu

I don't think we need 12, although I don't see any clear indication either way. Go ahead, invite them. Sell them on 3/22 though.

metsmarathon Mar 01 2012 11:45 AM Re: Ottoneu

ok, i've got the red sox fan in, and i've also got a phillies fan. sorry about that. not sure if my mets fan friend is interested yet.

Ceetar Mar 01 2012 01:03 PM Re: Ottoneu

Worst comes to worst I'm sure a twitter begging would get us one or two more. Anyway, anyone want to 'practice' and fill out my other team for me on Saturday 3/10 at like 5?

Vic Sage Mar 01 2012 03:17 PM Re: Ottoneu

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Vic Sage wrote: sorry, can't make the time commitment this year. BOOOOOOOO. You suck! mom, is that you?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 01 2012 10:37 PM Re: Ottoneu

Forgot we were doing this. I take it there's room for one more?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2012 05:17 AM Re: Ottoneu

duh

Ceetar Mar 02 2012 05:49 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar wrote: [url]http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/209/home is the league home page. the password is Hietpas [url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hietpjo01.shtml

bmfc1 Mar 02 2012 08:05 PM Re: Ottoneu

I'm in so long as the draft isn't the 23d or 24th. You threw me with the thread title.

Ceetar Mar 02 2012 09:34 PM Re: Ottoneu

bmfc1 wrote: I'm in so long as the draft isn't the 23d or 24th. You threw me with the thread title. I think we're almost settled on 3/22 at 8:30

Ceetar Mar 06 2012 05:32 PM Re: Ottoneu

we got any more fence-sitters? we've got 9, so one more to even it out would be nice (although it's not head to head so it don't matter real much, 9 is rather poetic)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 13 2012 08:34 AM Re: Ottoneu

My non-CPF friend says he can't get in the league with the password. What gives?

Ceetar Mar 13 2012 08:47 AM Re: Ottoneu

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: My non-CPF friend says he can't get in the league with the password. What gives? clearly he's not True Sabr.

Ceetar Mar 13 2012 08:50 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: My non-CPF friend says he can't get in the league with the password. What gives? clearly he's not True Sabr. Hietpas I dunno. I didn't change anything and I don't see anywhere I can even change/update the password. It claims there are still 3 spots available. Tell him to try again and if not let me know his team/account name and I'll email them about it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 13 2012 09:09 AM Re: Ottoneu

Yeah he says he went to "join existing league" tab and it told him the password wasn't cromulent. I invited him from that page, we'll see if it works. Confusing web page for sure.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 13 2012 09:31 AM Re: Ottoneu

Hey he's in "Duda Wright Things"

Ceetar Mar 13 2012 09:39 AM Re: Ottoneu

Good. 2 spots left, I suppose we should try to fill them but I'm not sure it matters. Everyone still good on the 3/22 8:30 pm draft time/date? It's not really something you can miss. There's some time to work the free agent auction after the draft, but probably not to fill a competitive team.

bmfc1 Mar 14 2012 08:18 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar--I apologize but I can't participate this year.

Ceetar Mar 16 2012 09:11 AM Re: Ottoneu

bmfc1 wrote: Ceetar--I apologize but I can't participate this year. No big deal, maybe you can swipe a team next year if someone drops out. speaking of which, we have 11. 1 more fills the league..takers? I may post it to twitter and cherry pick a 12th if we don't find one, just for completeness sake.

TransMonk Mar 16 2012 09:16 AM Re: Ottoneu

What the heck, I'll give it a go. Worst that can happen is that I come in last, right? I'll get myself registered over the weekend.

TransMonk Mar 16 2012 04:43 PM Re: Ottoneu

I'm in. Miracle Monks

TransMonk Mar 16 2012 04:59 PM Re: Ottoneu

Is this NL only or both leagues?

Ceetar Mar 16 2012 05:27 PM Re: Ottoneu

TransMonk wrote: Is this NL only or both leagues? the entire subset of major and minor league players included guys that aren't current (I imagine Andy Pettitte was already in there somewhere for example) I believe only major league players on the active roster accumulate stats though, but you've got a 40 man roster, and if you want to snag, say Bryce Harper, in the hopes that he'll be good at the end of this year or next year, that's your prerogative. I grabbed Nieuwenhuis in another league for instance.

TransMonk Mar 16 2012 06:08 PM Re: Ottoneu

Got it. I'm reading through on all the stuff on Fangraphs and it sounds fun. The last time I played fantasy baseball was 1991. I was the youngest owner in a keeper league that held a live auction. Back then I would wait for the Sporting News to come out on the weekend that listed all of the stats for all of the teams and then I would look all of my players up and keep their stats by hand each week. The commissioner would release standings every month printed by a service on a dot-matrix printer. I haven't played since the advent of internet stat compiling. I'm looking forward to it, but am admittedly a bit rusty on the process. I'll brush up and be ready to go on Thursday.

Ceetar Mar 16 2012 07:08 PM Re: Ottoneu

TransMonk wrote: Got it. I'm reading through on all the stuff on Fangraphs and it sounds fun. The last time I played fantasy baseball was 1991. I was the youngest owner in a keeper league that held a live auction. Back then I would wait for the Sporting News to come out on the weekend that listed all of the stats for all of the teams and then I would look all of my players up and keep their stats by hand each week. The commissioner would release standings every month printed by a service on a dot-matrix printer. I haven't played since the advent of internet stat compiling. I'm looking forward to it, but am admittedly a bit rusty on the process. I'll brush up and be ready to go on Thursday. This is the first time for roughly all of us I think. (I multi'tasked an auction last week)

TransMonk Mar 19 2012 03:13 PM Re: Ottoneu

*avi...I'm losing it today. Seriously.

Ceetar Mar 21 2012 07:27 AM Re: Ottoneu

Tomorrow! The auction draft window is viewable if you want to get a sense for the controls. Anyone got any questions?

TransMonk Mar 21 2012 06:12 PM Re: Ottoneu

Very cool. I was just thinking of this today.

Ceetar Mar 21 2012 06:36 PM Re: Ottoneu

TransMonk wrote: Very cool. I was just thinking of this today. And I emailed everyone but you, since somehow you managed to buck the system and register without an email address ;-) any questions?

Fman99 Mar 21 2012 06:40 PM Re: Ottoneu

Hey is this league NL only or AL/NL?

Ceetar Mar 21 2012 06:41 PM Re: Ottoneu

Fman99 wrote: Hey is this league NL only or AL/NL? NL/AL/AAA/AA/A/retirees/etc. (yes, you can get Mike Piazza if you want)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 21 2012 08:11 PM Re: Ottoneu

No, really?I thought this was NL only

Ceetar Mar 21 2012 08:29 PM Re: Ottoneu

Nah, ottoneu doesn't offer that type of flexibility.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 21 2012 08:31 PM Re: Ottoneu

Well had I done any preparation it's all gone to shit now.

Ceetar Mar 21 2012 08:42 PM Re: Ottoneu

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Well had I done any preparation it's all gone to shit now. Jose Bautista: good. Verlander: good Ivan Nova: scrub Alex Rodriguez: injury prone and washed up. Miguel Cabrera often number 1 pick overall. (I did no prep either. I recommend everyone load up a Yahoo or ESPN or mlb or something preranking grid for the sake of knowing the top players.)

metsmarathon Mar 22 2012 06:35 PM Re: Ottoneu

deathship... where are you...?

Fman99 Mar 22 2012 08:44 PM Re: Ottoneu

I bailed. Too slow, too painful. Good luck all.

Ceetar Mar 22 2012 08:46 PM Re: Ottoneu

Fman99 wrote: I bailed. Too slow, too painful. Good luck all. you gonna fill your roster tomorrow?

metsmarathon Mar 22 2012 08:57 PM Re: Ottoneu

wuss

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 22 2012 09:35 PM Re: Ottoneu

I AM BOOING YOU AS HARD AS I CAN

smg58 Mar 23 2012 05:57 AM Re: Ottoneu

Fman99 wrote: I bailed. Too slow, too painful. Good luck all. Don't panic. There's still plenty of talent available, and you'll be at a marked spending advantage. Things did start to move more quickly towards the end as spending money started to dry up, but I don't think anybody has more than 12 or 13 players yet. I believe we're continuing on Monday (or was it Tuesday?), and you can probably get some good deals on players (especially pitchers).

Ceetar Mar 23 2012 06:51 AM Re: Ottoneu

Tuesday at like 8:30 again I think we said. We're most of the way there. We'll have a couple of low-end bidding wars to come, and then probably a lot of nominating guys for $1 and everyone else passing to fill out the roster.

Muddy Chicken Mar 23 2012 04:29 PM Re: Ottoneu

Hello! Just wanted to introduce myself to the forum. I'm a friend of metsmarathon and am pretty pumped for this league. The draft last night, although slow, was quite fun. I'm not a Met's fan, but I do hate the Yankees. That's just as good, right?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2012 04:54 PM Re: Ottoneu

[Nods vigorously]

TransMonk Mar 24 2012 12:11 PM Re: Ottoneu

Muddy Chicken wrote: Hello! Just wanted to introduce myself to the forum. I'm a friend of metsmarathon and am pretty pumped for this league. The draft last night, although slow, was quite fun. I'm not a Met's fan, but I do hate the Yankees. That's just as good, right? Welcome! Are you a Sox fan? I think the price you paid for David Ortiz was one of the best values of the night.

Muddy Chicken Mar 24 2012 04:29 PM Re: Ottoneu

Yeah, I'm a big sox fan. I was a little bummed when pedroia went out of my price range, but was pumped when I got Big Papi at a discount.

metsmarathon Mar 24 2012 06:43 PM Re: Ottoneu

welcome abordick!

smg58 Mar 27 2012 05:56 AM Re: Ottoneu

8:30 tonight? Is FMan back in, and if not, are his players going back on the market?

Ceetar Mar 27 2012 06:07 AM Re: Ottoneu

smg58 wrote: 8:30 tonight? Is FMan back in, and if not, are his players going back on the market? shoved a replacement player in there. As long as he can make the draft. Guy's clearly going to be at a disadvantage since we already drafted Duda, but I imagine he can cobble together a non-embarrassing team. 8:45 I think I said in the email. Clearly if everyone's there we can start. If anyone thinks they are going to be late, or just doesn't care if we start without them? (I mean, you'll only miss a couple of players, many of you don't really need that many)

metsmarathon Mar 27 2012 06:56 AM Re: Ottoneu

i'm flying solo with minimm tonight. i'm hoping to get him to bed in time for the draft, and hte 8:45 start helps. if i'm not there, start without me. i'm very nervous about hte dynamic hte new player will bring, flush with fman's cash.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 27 2012 07:20 AM Re: Ottoneu

Who is this new fellow? My suggestion would be to draft a shitty team for FMan so he can reap the shame of having pussied out of a "keeper" league in 15 minutes.

Ceetar Mar 27 2012 07:25 AM Re: Ottoneu

just some guy to ostracize. Ottoneu seems to be anti-having less than 12. If we really don't like the guy we can throw him back, but the team would then be available for anyone to claim again. the auction shouldn't b e that big a deal. He's flush with cash but he's not gonna have access to like the top 150 guys or so either.

metsmarathon Mar 27 2012 07:51 AM Re: Ottoneu

the problem is that, flush with cash, he can take all teh remaining good players, quash any bargains, and snatch any prospect. he can afford to outbid all of us on anyone, and there's nothing to lose. mostly though, it's just that its an entirely different variable that's being thrown into the draft equation. he's playing with a different set of rules than the rest of us. not that it's his fault or that there's anything we can do about it, or that it will ultimately matter. hell, i'm sure there are people out there who draft with exactly this strategy - get a few stars and disappear, let everybody overpay for the top of the market, and then load up for bear on the bargains. it causes me great uncertainty. and that i do not like. i'm going to have a hard enough time sneaking bargains pas the lot of you all. but a guy with a full wallet - sheesh!

TransMonk Mar 27 2012 08:02 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: i'm going to have a hard enough time sneaking bargains pas the lot of you all. but a guy with a full wallet - sheesh! This. But whatevs. I blame Fman and his lack of patience.

Ceetar Mar 27 2012 08:05 AM Re: Ottoneu

TransMonk wrote: i'm going to have a hard enough time sneaking bargains pas the lot of you all. but a guy with a full wallet - sheesh! This. But whatevs. I blame Fman and his lack of patience. He hasn't gotten back to me. I mean, if you we think it's really better we can just boot him at 8:30, release his players, let Fman's team just be unqualified all season until someone picks it up again. Maybe that's the way to go.

metsmarathon Mar 27 2012 08:13 AM Re: Ottoneu

run a poll, perchance?

TransMonk Mar 27 2012 08:37 AM Re: Ottoneu

Personally, if someone wants to pick up the abondoned team, I would rather they do it once the rest of us have our rosters in order. I understand that this would put this potential GM at a severe disadvantage, but I have a feeling that having the second half of a draft/auction with one GM having nearly all of their cash means that it is going to be really hard for the other 11 GMs to find value for the small amount of cash that we have left. I guess I would rather have it be extremely hard for one person than somewhat hard for 11 people. Just my opinion. I'm up for anything.

metsmarathon Mar 27 2012 08:44 AM Re: Ottoneu

yeah. it would be different if someone had chosen to run their draft that way. i think the best would be to retain fman's players for whoever picks up his team after the conclusion of the draft.

Ceetar Mar 27 2012 08:48 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: yeah. it would be different if someone had chosen to run their draft that way. i think the best would be to retain fman's players for whoever picks up his team after the conclusion of the draft. So Jason Bay and Hanley Ramirez. just so we're clear what this guy gets. :-D

Ceetar Mar 27 2012 04:48 PM Re: Ottoneu Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 28 2012 05:24 AM

I'm feeling a little out of it, so if It's like 8:45 and I'm nowhere to be found/non responsive...

metsmarathon Mar 27 2012 10:27 PM Re: Ottoneu

so what would be the point of me putting a plyer into my minor leagues?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 28 2012 05:26 AM Re: Ottoneu

this interface bites ass. Somehow didn't take my lineup and i'm missing 2 players going now

Ceetar Mar 28 2012 05:29 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: so what would be the point of me putting a plyer into my minor leagues? I'm not really sure. Does it do it automatically maybe just so you can see how they're doing type thing and don't accidentily sub them in?

TransMonk Mar 28 2012 07:15 AM Re: Ottoneu

Yeah, I thought I had my lineup set last night, but I guess it reset everything either at the end of the draft or the start of the season. Luckily, Coco Crisp was the only player I would have had going this morning and he was 0-5.

Ceetar Mar 28 2012 07:36 AM Re: Ottoneu

looks like we have to set them manually post 'start of season' so everyone that has A's M's should probably do that for tomorrow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 28 2012 08:36 AM Re: Ottoneu

Lost 8 innings from McCarthy and the winning pitcher, Wilhelmsen.

mgmlax85 Mar 28 2012 09:29 AM Re: Ottoneu

Mohawk Red Flyers here. Finally got off my ass and joined this since it seems difficult to read the message board on Ottoneu. Yeah, I am a little annoyed too. Set my lineup at 11:45 last night, got it reset and lost 8 really good innings out of King Felix and a solid inning out of Brandon League. Dare I ask if anything can be done about this?

Ceetar Mar 28 2012 09:48 AM Re: Ottoneu

I sent Niv an email to ask, but I'm not sure what can be done. Apparently lineups can't be set until the draft is finished.

mgmlax85 Mar 28 2012 09:50 AM Re: Ottoneu

Yeah, this one isn't quite as cut and dry as the Nelson Cruz issue. If Felix had a bad game, I wouldn't want to say anything. He was obviously in my starting lineup last night, but there is a lot more wiggle room here. I appreciate you checking into it for me/us.

m.e.t.b.o.t. Mar 28 2012 09:56 AM Re: Ottoneu

m.e.t.b.o.t. has a procedural question. due to the difficulty of running two drafts at a time, the human in control of programming m.e.t.b.o.t. has failed in his duty to ensure quality algorithms are utilized at all times. m.e.t.b.o.t. has over drafted, if slightly. m.e.t.b.o.t. drafted two too many players valued in the $10-14 bin. the human was not paying enough attention to where drafted players slotted into these bins. m.e.t.b.o.t. did not spend too much money, of course, but has taken a degree of an unfair advantage, which is perhaps not all that large. essentially, m.e.t.b.o.t. has taken a unfortunately, m.e.t.b.o.t. has compounded this advantage by misusing the waiver wire. m.e.t.b.o.t. has nominated several player for auction, but only after re-examining the value-bins did m.e.t.b.o.t. determine that the error was made. m.e.t.b.o.t. has nominated, for instance, 3 players which fall into the $10-14 bin, and 5 players which fall into the $7-9 bin. should m.e.t.b.o.t. acquire these players, m.e.t.b.o.t. will drop them immediately, accepting the salary cap penalty. m.e.t.b.o.t. is initiating a new set of bids according to the correct slotting scheme. m.e.t.b.o.t. apologizes for any difficulties.

Ceetar Mar 28 2012 10:18 AM Re: Ottoneu

yeah, and thanks for all the spam you worthless robot!

metsmarathon Mar 28 2012 10:20 AM Re: Ottoneu

man, i am so fried from last night! getting a bunch of gears and springs and rubber bands to interface with an iphone is not easy. i would've had the 'bot use a second computer, but i forgot to bring a laptop cord home. i lost track of what i was doing for my own team, and overspent in the early goings last night, leaving me with no flexibility to get my steals last night. so often i had a guy i wanted, nominated him, and lost him 'cos i couldn't go to $3 for him. and there were a few players i lost because i though i was clicking on the bid button, but was only just selecting hte window. argh! i'm sure others had difficulties, and these were all of my own doing. but still. what a chore!

TransMonk Mar 28 2012 10:22 AM Re: Ottoneu

I guess that's what I meant by "work" yesterday. :)

Ceetar Mar 28 2012 10:25 AM Re: Ottoneu

At least we'll pretty much start from the second half next year, we'll know what we're doing, maybe Niv will have fixed some bugs, and we'll have a longer period of time to do the auction (like late February/early March instead of the night before the first game)

mgmlax85 Mar 30 2012 11:16 AM Re: Ottoneu

A bit of a follow-up concerning the rosters being reset. I was just looking at my lineup, and it indicates that I have 9 IP for the year (which is what i missed from Hernandez and League on opening day), but no credit for the stats accrued in those 9 innings. Are the Ottoneu people in the process of including those players on opening day in our starting lineups? I checked and noticed the same thing on Greenpoint's Lineup page, since I knew he had a couple pitchers play that day.

metsmarathon Mar 30 2012 11:19 AM Re: Ottoneu

oh, good. i had some nice dustin ackley offense in the first game that i wouldn't mind getting credit for. also, i did indeed confirm, through the help of my little metallic friend, that initiating an auction for a player does indeed obligate you to bid the minimum $1, regardless of whether you actually place the $1 bid, or even if you subsequently delete it (or a higher value).

mgmlax85 Mar 30 2012 01:09 PM Re: Ottoneu

Well, at the moment, your games played list only shows 1 for MI, not 2. For what it's worth.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 31 2012 08:58 AM Re: Ottoneu

Just realized that I pulled a Nelson Cruz at the tail end of the draft-- the Josh Bell I snagged at auction is slightly-older, out-of-baseball 3B Josh Bell, and not the still-in-baseball 3B prospect Josh Bell I thought I was buying. Do you mind making the switch, Cee? I'd do it myself, but it would cost me at least $2 off my cap to do so.

m.e.t.b.o.t. Apr 03 2012 09:09 AM Re: Ottoneu

m.e.t.b.o.t. suffered an algorithmical failure during the draft and mistakenly believed the metropolitan pitcher chris young to be valued at $17, failing to notice that the valuation in fact belonged to diamondback rattlesnake outfielder chris young, listed one cell higher. while small, and eminently crushable, m.e.t.b.o.t. is however robot enough to accept the failure as his own, and is not asking for any compensation or alteration of the selection. m.e.t.b.o.t. is aware that this acceptance is also due to the fact that neither m.e.t.b.o.t. nor the human in charge of maintaining, upgrading, repairing, and winding m.e.t.b.o.t. have any interest in devising an appropriate scheme whereby m.e.t.b.o.t. should determine that cutting a player is necessary, in a way that is both fair and formulaic. besides, the projection which m.e.t.b.o.t. used for the metropolitan pitcher chris young is still fairly optimistic, and may be worth the $1 salary allotted him.

metsmarathon Apr 03 2012 09:15 AM Re: Ottoneu

apparently, anyone who had a player in the first game of the season, who was in their lineup the night of hte draft, but who was taken out of hte lineup when they were reset on the completion of the draft, can have their playing time reinstated, provided our esteemed commissioner sends an email to the kind folks at ottoneu with a list of all the player corrections to be made. while this gives us a chance to be retroactively picky in who we play, lets try to keep it honest. me, i had kurt suzuki (C), dustin ackley (MI) , and mike carp (OF) in the first game. yes, i'm taking credit for an 0-4 performance and a 1-5. frakkin' honesty.

Ceetar Apr 03 2012 09:20 AM Re: Ottoneu

funny, since I asked the day after and was told that'd it wasn't going to happen. Where'd you see this?

metsmarathon Apr 03 2012 09:27 AM Re: Ottoneu

via email conversation with the owner of the red flyers. he emailed onnoneu about king felix' innings, which they decided to credit him. he asked then about the rest of the teams in hte league that were similarly affected, and the response was to have the commish send them an email with the affected teams. i assume telling them the affected players on those affected teams would only help matters.

Ceetar Apr 03 2012 09:30 AM Re: Ottoneu Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 03 2012 09:36 AM

making a list.

Ceetar Apr 03 2012 09:35 AM Re: Ottoneu Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 03 2012 01:49 PM

Alpine Albatrosses: kurt suzuki (C), dustin ackley (MI) , and mike carp (OF) Greenpoint Lunchladies: Brandon McCarthy, Tom Wilhelmsen Miracle Monks: Coco Crisp Muddy Chickens: Seth Smith

mgmlax85 Apr 03 2012 09:42 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar Sorry if it looks like I took an end around on you here. When I noticed that my total innings pitched showed 9 despite not getting the stats, I figured I'd just email the help desk explaining what happened and ask them to remove the 9 IP. I thought I'd save you the hassle of being the middle-man again. Then Niv replied saying that he was going to credit me with the stats instead. So I mentioned to him that I wasn't the only one affected in our league. As I told him, obviously we've learned that we need to finish the draft earlier if rosters are going to reset. There probably aren't too many players between the Mariners and Athletics that were in starting lineups, so I don't think there should be a huge effect. And like Alpine said, we all should be able to be honest here.

Ceetar Apr 03 2012 09:47 AM Re: Ottoneu

No big deal. I imagine the winning pitcher and the two starters are the main stat-getters here.

TransMonk Apr 03 2012 09:50 AM Re: Ottoneu

In the attitude of fairness and sportsmanship...I have Coco Crisp who went 0-5 in the first game. You can add him to the list. But, I'll understand if nothing can be done. :)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 03 2012 09:57 AM Re: Ottoneu

Thanks! Those would be the only guys I had involved.

Muddy Chicken Apr 03 2012 01:35 PM Re: Ottoneu

I had Seth Smith in my lineup, but I could care less if I get credit for his 1 hit and 1 HBP.

smg58 Apr 08 2012 06:03 PM Re: Ottoneu

So far my hitters are smacking it, but my pitchers are getting smacked just as hard. I'm really regretting taking a wait and see approach to Jeff Samardzija, but at least I have him on the roster.

metsmarathon Apr 09 2012 06:56 AM Re: Ottoneu

3 games in, and my [crossout:2zsrnvri]psychotic delusion[/crossout:2zsrnvri] alter ego is kicking my ass. sigh.

Ceetar Apr 09 2012 07:42 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: 3 games in, and my [crossout]psychotic delusion[/crossout] alter ego is kicking my ass. sigh. btw, you should be able to add Nieuwenhuis to your lineup now. He was stuck in 'minor league players' until today.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2012 07:50 AM Re: Ottoneu

You're welcome for that one. I'm kicking ass and that's without any contributions from Ike Davis so far, or any bench to speak of. If any of the offensive players on my team has the day off I'm sort a player or two.

metsmarathon Apr 09 2012 08:47 AM Re: Ottoneu

well, i needed an outfielder to replace andres torres...

A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2012 10:39 AM Re: Ottoneu

So this league is run by fangraphs? how do you like it so far compared to the Yahoo's and ESPN's?

Ceetar Apr 09 2012 11:39 AM Re: Ottoneu

A Boy Named Seo wrote: So this league is run by fangraphs? how do you like it so far compared to the Yahoo's and ESPN's? less polished for sure, but it's newer and basically supported by a singular programmer. I enjoy the auction format of it, and the keeper/dynasty format of it. more 'serious' because you have to manage the cap and consider every move as it would affect it.

metsmarathon Apr 09 2012 01:51 PM Re: Ottoneu

it's definitely clunky and ugly, especially compared to espn and yahoo. and if we only do it for this year, it's going to suck. but i like the power of hte auction drafts and the minor league rosters and the machinations for the cap. i think it's really hard to say how it works until we get through the second year, but so far, a week in, i like it. it would be nice if player news was easier to get to, if at all, but whatev's. it's novel and new and way more hardcore than a casual yahoo thing. also, with the personal investment that each of us had towards the auction, it's hopefully less likely htat we'll have as much fallout as you might see in a typical yahoo league.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2012 04:42 PM Re: Ottoneu

It sounds really cool. Was looking for an auction w/ people I knew this year, but none wanted to try. Kicking myself for not seeing this. #woeisme

metsmarathon Apr 09 2012 07:54 PM Re: Ottoneu

you can probably take the 'bot's spot next year. ;)

A Boy Named Seo Apr 10 2012 12:51 PM Re: Ottoneu

pencil me in.

Ceetar May 14 2012 07:29 AM Re: Ottoneu

I'm getting absolutely embarrassed. A shakeup is in the works. someone's losing their job.

metsmarathon Jul 16 2012 07:43 AM Re: Ottoneu

i think my team is playing all of their games in citi field. the old citi field. only with higher outfield fences and way more fould territory. i have a great rotation and bullpen, but my god, my offense is abysmal. my team, with its 0.324 OBP and 0.426 SLG can barely out-produce daniel murphy.

Ceetar Jul 16 2012 09:30 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: i think my team is playing all of their games in citi field. the old citi field. only with higher outfield fences and way more fould territory. i have a great rotation and bullpen, but my god, my offense is abysmal. my team, with its 0.324 OBP and 0.426 SLG can barely out-produce daniel murphy. Actually I've hit the fewest home runs. my OBP is middle of the pack though. I wish it had a 'last 7' feature, because I struggle with subbing in guys and playing the hot hand with my reserves, which is more relevant when you have large 40 man teams.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2012 09:34 AM Re: Ottoneu

I based way too much of my O on Tulowitzski (not to mention Duda and Davis). The end.

TransMonk Jul 16 2012 09:44 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar wrote: I wish it had a 'last 7' feature, because I struggle with subbing in guys and playing the hot hand with my reserves, which is more relevant when you have large 40 man teams. If you click on your player, it will give you his game logs for his past 10. I was surprised to see that I'm in 4th place to start the day. I still feel like I'm going to be in sell mode, though. LWFS should be talking to all of us about selling his youth for our stars.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2012 09:48 AM Re: Ottoneu

I'm gonna go put Matt Kemp on the block.

Ceetar Jul 16 2012 09:55 AM Re: Ottoneu

TransMonk wrote: Ceetar wrote: I wish it had a 'last 7' feature, because I struggle with subbing in guys and playing the hot hand with my reserves, which is more relevant when you have large 40 man teams. If you click on your player, it will give you his game logs for his past 10. I was surprised to see that I'm in 4th place to start the day. I still feel like I'm going to be in sell mode, though. LWFS should be talking to all of us about selling his youth for our stars. well yeah, but then I gotta click 8 times to see all my OF and it's hard to compare that way. I'm willing to take on salary for offense if someone needs to trim.

metsmarathon Jul 16 2012 10:05 AM Re: Ottoneu

open up sortable stats in another window, and select only your team, and the timeframe you care about. be nice if it was more slickly integrated, but it's good enough. pain in the ass when you've gotta manage two teams though...

smg58 Aug 18 2012 09:11 PM Re: Ottoneu

The wind must have been blowing out tonight. My hitters hit seven home runs, but my pitchers allowed nine.

metsmarathon Sep 11 2012 08:18 AM Re: Ottoneu

so, we're doing this again next year, right? i just need to know so i can start agonizing over whether or not to retain my rights to the alpine albatrosses, or perhaps to go all-in with the bot. i [heart] my albatross pitching staff, but golly-gee-willikers, clockwork has some tremendous values on that roster. i think with an undivided attention span during hte draft, he'd be in good shape for next year. my team, well, there's some work my offense needs to do. i've got a lot of dollars tied up in not a lot of production.

Ceetar Sep 11 2012 09:42 AM Re: Ottoneu

I'm enjoying it, despite horribly horribly sucking. (I'm 10/12 in my other league)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 11 2012 09:49 AM Re: Ottoneu

It was fun despite my wildly unsuccessful, Met-heavy team. Not for nothing but I think next year everyone should be required participate in the draft as it happens, rather than scoop up the remains.

TransMonk Sep 11 2012 09:56 AM Re: Ottoneu

I'm still in contention this season but not it's pretty much up to how the players perform these last 3 weeks. A lot of fun though. Mark Reynolds has mostly been rotting on my bench for the last month. He has finally taken over for Freddie Freeman at my utility spot. I put him on the block and he got hot, hot, hot. But alas, no takers.

Ceetar Sep 11 2012 12:06 PM Re: Ottoneu

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: It was fun despite my wildly unsuccessful, Met-heavy team. Not for nothing but I think next year everyone should be required participate in the draft as it happens, rather than scoop up the remains. Well hopefully we'll all have 10-15 core guys at least to build around next season. So the draft will be only mildly time consuming.

seawolf17 Sep 11 2012 12:22 PM Re: Ottoneu

Tempted to jump ship from my other league and may be a free agent this winter looking for a league, if there'll be space.

Ceetar Sep 11 2012 12:31 PM Re: Ottoneu

seawolf17 wrote: Tempted to jump ship from my other league and may be a free agent this winter looking for a league, if there'll be space. There should at least be the spot vacated by either metsmarathon or m.e.t.b.o.t

davidayden399 Sep 25 2012 11:51 AM Re: Ottoneu

5x5 over 4x4, mostly prefer...

smg58 Oct 04 2012 06:39 AM Re: Ottoneu

Congratulations to the Mohawk Red Flyers! (Whose team is that anyway?) So the site says arbitration begins Oct. 16. What does that mean?

Ceetar Oct 04 2012 06:54 AM Re: Ottoneu

smg58 wrote: Congratulations to the Mohawk Red Flyers! (Whose team is that anyway?) So the site says arbitration begins Oct. 16. What does that mean? arbritration is the new process of voting someone off your opponents team or something? I don't know, this change when in while I was chugging liters of beer in München so i'll need to read up on it. Mohawk is mgmlax85 who was one of the non-CPF guys but I don't remember where we acquired him from.

Ceetar Oct 04 2012 07:09 AM Re: Ottoneu

[url]http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/new-and-improved-ottoneu-arbitration-process/ sent an email. two options, either you vote one player off every other team, or you add $25 scattered among the salaries of the other 11 teams.

seawolf17 Oct 04 2012 07:23 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Tempted to jump ship from my other league and may be a free agent this winter looking for a league, if there'll be space. There should at least be the spot vacated by either metsmarathon or m.e.t.b.o.t Cool. Let me know.

TransMonk Oct 04 2012 07:57 AM Re: Ottoneu

The new system seems awfully confusing...but could be useful as well. I'm open to either option, but I guess I prefer the voting a player off as that was my understanding of what would happen going into the season. Fun season, by the way. Great job, all!

metsmarathon Oct 04 2012 09:45 AM Re: Ottoneu

i like the new arbitration process. it seems more equitable. i'm looking forward to figuring out how to run my team this offseason. also, i think it might be good to acquiesce control of the 'bot's team as soon as reasonably possible. Certainly before the end of the arbitration period. important dates for next year, per the ottoneu website: •Start of Arbitration - October 16, 2012 •End of Arbitration - November 15, 2012 •Keeper Deadline - January 31, 2013 •Auction Draft Day - March 24, 2012 12:00 AM •Start of Regular Season - TBD •Trade Deadline - TBD •End of Regular Season - TBD

Ceetar Oct 04 2012 09:59 AM Re: Ottoneu

It depends if you want to do arbitration twice, or want seawolf to do it. I believe the renewal date stays, so the transfer is easy. I'm not sure how to do the transfer yet, i assume there's a way to do it without releasing to teh team to abandonment and having him claim it.

TransMonk Oct 04 2012 10:00 AM Re: Ottoneu

I'm fine with figuring out the new process. Seems fun.

metsmarathon Oct 04 2012 10:38 AM Re: Ottoneu

i don't want the moral ambiguity of having to go through the arbitration process twice. i don't think it would be fair to let me assign arbitration dollars against myself (or to allow me not to assign arbitration dollars to myself on behalf of the new owner of the clockwork orange and blues). it also muddies the waters of how i would assign arbitration values to the rest of everybody, i should think.

Ceetar Oct 04 2012 11:51 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: i don't want the moral ambiguity of having to go through the arbitration process twice. i don't think it would be fair to let me assign arbitration dollars against myself (or to allow me not to assign arbitration dollars to myself on behalf of the new owner of the clockwork orange and blues). it also muddies the waters of how i would assign arbitration values to the rest of everybody, i should think. I don't see an easy way to transfer a team without the abandon/claim timing method of you clicking the button while seawolf is clicking refresh.

seawolf17 Oct 04 2012 01:26 PM Re: Ottoneu

Ah. This is some sort of open online league that we all jumped in together on? I'll do whatever we need, if marathon and I need to do it together, or if he can just change the e-mail address on the second account to mine or whatever. What's the link to the league?

TransMonk Oct 04 2012 01:36 PM Re: Ottoneu

http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/209/home

Ceetar Oct 04 2012 01:38 PM Re: Ottoneu

Ah. This is some sort of open online league that we all jumped in together on? I'll do whatever we need, if marathon and I need to do it together, or if he can just change the e-mail address on the second account to mine or whatever. What's the link to the league? no changes to account names are permitted though. (fangraphs account) this is the league: [url]http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/209/home this is the 'claim abandoned teams' page: [url]http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/claimteams I could probably email niv about simply switching the team to a different account, but timing it is probably easier. Worse case scenario we force-abandon the team if someone else sneaks in and claims it and we try again.

seawolf17 Oct 04 2012 01:51 PM Re: Ottoneu

Created my account. Let me know what I should do.

Ceetar Oct 04 2012 01:56 PM Re: Ottoneu

just waiting on metsmarathon to abandon the team then. Trying to remember if he was up in the air about it being the bot or him or I'd do it for him. Then you can simply click 'claim' on the abandoned team page.

seawolf17 Oct 04 2012 01:59 PM Re: Ottoneu

When you/he are ready to go, hit me up on twitter and we'll make it happen as quickly as we can.

smg58 Oct 04 2012 07:32 PM Re: Ottoneu

The funny thing is, I could have told Wolf anything he needed to know over lunch today...

Ceetar Oct 05 2012 06:51 AM Re: Ottoneu

smg58 wrote: The funny thing is, I could have told Wolf anything he needed to know over lunch today... And instead you spent the time making Dickey jokes and giggling?

smg58 Oct 05 2012 10:34 AM Re: Ottoneu

Ceetar wrote: smg58 wrote: The funny thing is, I could have told Wolf anything he needed to know over lunch today... And instead you spent the time making Dickey jokes and giggling? Dickey was actually the first subject of the conversation, although there were no jokes involved.

m.e.t.b.o.t. Oct 05 2012 12:02 PM Re: Ottoneu

m.e.t.b.o.t. is prepared to abandon the fantasy baseball team. m.e.t.b.o.t. in coming years will attempt to integrate the unique mechanical data processing skills which returned a 10th place season into the more mundane, flawed human powered alpine alpacas, creating a superior fantasy sports juggernaut that might possibly wrest itself out of the offensive gutter, and to vanquish whatever shall remain on the former roster of the clockwork oranges. were m.e.t.b.o.t. more capable of emotions than a loosely assembled collection of discarded watch and vcr parts wrapped in inexpensive chinese tin, m.e.t.b.o.t. would be sorry to no longer be in charge of the wrong chris young, the wrong francisco rodriguez, and the wrong jason bay. moreso, m.e.t.b.o.t. would be sorry to no longer have available such bargain-priced players as chase headley, pedro alvarez, kris medlen, and homer bailey.

seawolf17 Oct 05 2012 12:18 PM Re: Ottoneu

I'm taking over a team with Jason Bay on it!??! Fuckin' hell.

metsmarathon Oct 05 2012 12:40 PM Re: Ottoneu

yes, but then so did the bot. at least you can relish the opportunity to drop him with vehemence. ... hmm... i think you'll need ceetar to designate clockwork as abandoned. i cannot apparently abandon the team myself. at least, i don't see the button anywhere.

Ceetar Oct 05 2012 01:18 PM Re: Ottoneu

abandoned. go go go [url]http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/claimteams way up top of the page is the link to edit team if you prefer a less mechanical team name.

seawolf17 Oct 05 2012 01:55 PM Re: Ottoneu

Way to abandon the team while I'm in a meeting. "Oh, don't mind me. Just have to claim this roto team."

Ceetar Oct 05 2012 02:39 PM Re: Ottoneu

seawolf17 wrote: Way to abandon the team while I'm in a meeting. "Oh, don't mind me. Just have to claim this roto team." hardcore.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 11 2012 04:09 PM Re: Ottoneu

Jumping in here without reading up first, but if yall need an extra next year, I'm game.

Ceetar Oct 12 2012 08:40 AM Re: Ottoneu

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Jumping in here without reading up first, but if yall need an extra next year, I'm game. Will keep this in mind if anyone quits between now and March.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 12 2012 02:17 PM Re: Ottoneu

Gracias.

metsmarathon Oct 16 2012 01:50 PM Re: Ottoneu

arbitration season is open! get in there and jack up the salaries of your opponents' best deals!

seawolf17 Oct 16 2012 02:47 PM Re: Ottoneu

So we're supposed to go in to each team and assign no more than $3 per team in salary increases, with a total $25 limit? Making sure I get this right.

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 02:59 PM Re: Ottoneu

seawolf17 wrote: So we're supposed to go in to each team and assign no more than $3 per team in salary increases, with a total $25 limit? Making sure I get this right. Think that's right, yeah.

metsmarathon Oct 17 2012 06:28 AM Re: Ottoneu

yup. if you do it wrong, the page'll come up with an error. it'd be more helpful if it explained what you did wrong, but, eh, whatchagonnaedo!

metsmarathon Nov 05 2012 12:17 PM Re: Ottoneu

hey, all, get your arbitration dollars in asap! time's a-wasting!

Ceetar Nov 05 2012 12:50 PM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: hey, all, get your arbitration dollars in asap! time's a-wasting! yeah! do that! (oh, i have power now. I better do that)

seawolf17 Nov 05 2012 12:56 PM Re: Ottoneu

Thanks for the reminder. Done.

metsmarathon Nov 14 2012 06:59 AM Re: Ottoneu

the deathship needs to arbitrate arbitrarily.

Ceetar Nov 14 2012 07:03 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: the deathship needs to arbitrate arbitrarily. j1mbo15 too. I did send them both emails about it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 15 2012 03:33 PM Re: Ottoneu

Deathship has dealt its deathblows. (And damn, people-- you broiled my Trout.)

smg58 Nov 15 2012 04:14 PM Re: Ottoneu

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: (And damn, people-- you broiled my Trout.) I'm surprised Trout didn't get the maximum possible boost ($33 I think). But I did my part.

Ceetar Nov 16 2012 11:56 AM Re: Ottoneu

I believe the next step is what we call the Jason Bay step. you have until 1/31 to cut the fat from the roster. drop anyone you want with no penalty.

metsmarathon Jan 22 2013 07:30 AM Re: Ottoneu

there are still a few teams over the cap, with 9 days to go before the cut deadline. drop your jason bays fast!

Ceetar Jan 22 2013 07:45 AM Re: Ottoneu

metsmarathon wrote: there are still a few teams over the cap, with 9 days to go before the cut deadline. drop your jason bays fast! oh crap, is cut deadlines!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2013 08:05 AM Re: Ottoneu

I just whacked half my team including Tulo and Kemp. And Doodoo!

Ceetar Jan 23 2013 07:02 AM Re: Ottoneu

Listening to reasonable offers for Verlander or Wright, Don't know if I want two players making that much on my team.

smg58 Jan 23 2013 07:22 AM Re: Ottoneu

Are you looking for anything in particular?

Ceetar Jan 23 2013 07:35 AM Re: Ottoneu

smg58 wrote: Are you looking for anything in particular? Mike Trouts. I seem to lack quality middle infielders. Could always use more pitching. I might be able to float all that money on two players, but it seems smart to explore value for one of them.