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IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Edgy MD Mar 13 2012 07:30 AM

St. Lousie =#0000FF]St. Lucie [list=1][*]Descalso, ss[/*:m] [*]Schumaker, cf[/*:m] [*]Beltran, rf[/*:m] [*]Freese, dh[/*:m] [*]Adams, 1b[/*:m] [*]Molina, c[/*:m] [*]Carpenter, 3b[/*:m] [*]Greene, 2b[/*:m] [*]Komatsu, lf[/*:m][/list:o] Wainwright, sp [list=1][*]Torres, cf[/*:m] [*]Murphy, 2b[/*:m] [*]Bay, lf[/*:m] [*]Davis, 1b[/*:m] [*]Duda, rf[/*:m] [*]May, c[/*:m] [*]Loewen, dh[/*:m] [*]Satin, 3b[/*:m] [*]Tejada, ss[/*:m][/list:o] Pelfrey, sp Olson is the only lefty reliever scheduled to go, so I guess we can expect the Mets to take a hard look at him. Satin certainly seems to be getting enough at-bats around the diamond to sink or swim. I guess Turner's spot isn't so safe.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 13 2012 07:33 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Turner's gotta pray Wright & Hairston stay on the sidelines to have a shot I think. Not sure what his appetite for the minors would be at this point. Reese Havens is still out?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 13 2012 07:36 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Turner's gotta pray Wright & Hairston stay on the sidelines to have a shot I think. Not sure what his appetite for the minors would be at this point. Reese Havens is still out? Yes he is, answerring my own question Mets Infield Prospect Hounded By a Perplexing Run of Injuries By ANDREW KEH and BARRY MEIER PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. — The last time Reese Havens was able to practice with his teammates was Feb. 28. The next morning, he walked into the Mets’ spring training complex and told the manager that he had been feeling soreness in his back. Such a revelation, for most other players, might be taken lightly. For Havens, it represented another cruel twist of fate, one that sank his spirits to a depth his manager said he had not seen from him before. Havens, 25, has been one of the Mets’ most promising position player prospects since he was drafted in 2008, but his time in the organization has been defined by an inability to stay healthy. His latest setback appears to be a left oblique strain. Havens acknowledged that he had caught himself at times trudging through days that seemed to slowly lose significance. “When you’re going from wherever you live to the field for rehab, back and forth, back and forth, you can kind of get in this weird routine, where you’re kind of just there, you know, instead of it meaning something,” Havens said. “I tell myself that I need to see the bigger picture, not focus on right now, because there’s a lot more to all this than just that. But, you know, it’s hard.” Second base, manned by Mets who have primarily been viewed as temps and fill-ins, has long appeared to be Havens’s position for the taking. And Manager Terry Collins opened camp this year by singling out Havens as a player he was most eager to watch. “He’s one of those guys where you just know the ceiling,” Collins said recently. “If we can get him in the lineup, he’s going to play in the big leagues.” But for Havens, who can be refreshingly contemplative and honest, this sort of conditional praise conjures a complex mixture of emotions. “It’s an honor to have anybody talk about you like that,” Havens said. “But at the same time, it can be frustrating to hear. It’ll drive you crazy if you think about it all the time.” When Havens has played, he has excelled. Nothing in his early years as a player foreshadowed his current injury struggles. “It has been extremely uncanny, the injuries he’s had, because he was never hurt as a youngster,” said Brent Havens, his father, who owns a fine-art framing business in Charleston, S.C. “His high school and college careers were basically injury-free. And if he did have an injury, he always healed quickly.” Havens played three strong seasons at South Carolina. When the Mets found themselves with two first-round selections in the 2008 draft, they took Ike Davis with the 18th overall pick and Havens four picks later. Omar Minaya, the Mets’ general manager at the time, said, “What we saw in him was a middle infielder that not only was what you might call a gamer-type player, who played the game hard, but was also a very talented hitter, a middle infielder with some power.” While Davis, one of Havens’s best friends, has made a rapid ascent to the big leagues, Havens has appeared in only 213 games, battling injuries, mainly in his back and sides, over his four minor league seasons. After the 2010 season, Havens went to Alabama to undergo an uncommon surgical procedure to try to correct what had been diagnosed as rib-tip syndrome, in which a person’s lower ribs become mobile and brush against nerves, causing pain. “They basically snipped part of my ribs off,” Havens said. His 2011 season, during which he batted .289 with a .372 on-base percentage at Class AA, was nevertheless hindered by back and side injuries, and he was limited to 58 games. Havens came into camp this year with a refreshed mind-set. For years, Davis tried to coax Havens to Arizona for winter workouts at Fischer Sports, a training and conditioning complex in Phoenix. Havens finally relented. He lived in Davis’s house for two months and completed a program meant to focus on his primary problem area. “With the stuff I’ve had happen, I felt that my core was the area I needed to strengthen the most,” Havens said. “That’s all baseball is, the core. We’re rotating all day long.” Even if he knew it was unlikely, Havens said he entered camp with the goal of making the team. His optimism has made this setback all the more devastating. “It’s killing him, man, because he wants to play,” Davis said. “He’s doing everything he can to try to get healthy, but it’s just not happening.”

Ceetar Mar 13 2012 07:50 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Turner's gotta pray Wright & Hairston stay on the sidelines to have a shot I think. Not sure what his appetite for the minors would be at this point. Reese Havens is still out? Collins seems pretty set on Turner. There hasn't really been any notion that he needs to earn his spot this year. I think at the very least they see him as pretty versatile and a good righty pinch-hitter. Ted Berg pointed out yesterday, no reason to demand a righty for Hairston's replacement, as presumably Turner should get those pinch hitting AB if he's going to be on the roster anyway.

Edgy MD Mar 13 2012 09:26 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Tejada scratched out, Quintanilla inserted. Explanation not yet available.

MFS62 Mar 13 2012 09:35 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Groin strain: http://www.metsblog.com/2012/03/13/d-j- ... scratched/ Later

Ceetar Mar 13 2012 09:35 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Edgy DC wrote: Tejada scratched out, Quintanilla inserted. Explanation not yet available. strained left groin.

Edgy MD Mar 13 2012 09:40 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

What's this I hear about a strange groin? How unusual could it be?

bmfc1 Mar 13 2012 11:15 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Pelfrey continues to stink. He's given up 2 homeruns already. My hatred for him is in mid-season form.

Edgy MD Mar 13 2012 11:56 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Daniel Murphy the only Met packing his lumber today.

Edgy MD Mar 13 2012 11:59 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Bay follows Murphy's second single with a much-desired double. Tying run at the plate. His name is Ike.

Edgy MD Mar 13 2012 12:01 PM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Walk to Ike loads the bases. Never too early to practice avoiding conflict. Do it again, Lucas.

Edgy MD Mar 13 2012 12:02 PM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Sac fly plates one.

vtmet Mar 13 2012 04:15 PM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Turner's gotta pray Wright & Hairston stay on the sidelines to have a shot I think. Not sure what his appetite for the minors would be at this point. Reese Havens is still out? I think Turner is safe for now...he's about the only fully healthy positional player that we have (unless you count guys that ended last season hurt)...

metirish Mar 13 2012 06:05 PM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

bmfc1 wrote: Pelfrey continues to stink. He's given up 2 homeruns already. My hatred for him is in mid-season form. Me too , both home runs looked like they came from the very same type of pitch and placement .

MFS62 Mar 14 2012 08:00 AM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

Its spring training - time to work on things. Yesterday he was working on his home run pitch. That seems to be ok, so next game he'll work on his doubles pitch. By the end of ST, he'll be working on his out pitches. There's still plenty of time. Relax. Later

vtmet Mar 14 2012 07:29 PM Re: IGT, 3/13, Cards @ Mets in St. Lucie

MFS62 wrote: Its spring training - time to work on things. Yesterday he was working on his home run pitch. That seems to be ok, so next game he'll work on his doubles pitch. By the end of ST, he'll be working on his out pitches. There's still plenty of time. Relax. Later Is he ever going to work on a "swing and miss" pitch? After almost 150 Major League Starts, the guy still has a WHIP that is almost equal to his K:BB ratio (1.46 WHIP; 1.57 K:BB ratio)...Those numbers aren't far off from Oliver Perez's MLB numbers (1.49 WHIP; 1.79 K:BB ratio); http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ol01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... mi01.shtml