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You Make the Call: Jon Niese

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 17 2012 07:58 AM

A good proxy for the 2011 season with a relatively strong start that for awhile had him looking like the Mets' best starter then pretty much dogshit in July and August and gone completely in September. Can Niese put it together for a full year?

Ceetar Mar 17 2012 08:09 AM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

Sure. Strikes out guys, improved both his K rate and his BB rate last year from the year before.. let's up too many hits but.. 4.1 ERA, 180IP, 165 K, 1.35 WHIp.

MFS62 Mar 17 2012 08:20 AM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

He'll have to show us he can break out of his end-of-season problems before I can predict anything more than the same. .500 record (plus or minus one decision), fewer than 32 starts, 4.2 ERA. Later

TheOldMole Mar 17 2012 09:15 AM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

13-8, 3.88 ERA

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2012 01:46 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

32 starts, 195 innings, 10-13 record, 21 HR allowed, career-high 173 K (and career highs in K/BB and K/9), career-low 3.69 ERA, career-low 1.33 WHIP, career low in ocean fish caught by swooping.

Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 17 2012 05:09 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

I think he goes 17-10 and is named to the All-Star team., credits Carlos Beltran -- or at least Beltran's wallet.

Ashie62 Mar 17 2012 07:30 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

Make or break year for the lefty

TransMonk Mar 17 2012 10:01 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

I predict a winning record and an ERA under 4. Niese finally gets it.

smg58 Mar 17 2012 10:03 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

MFS62 wrote: He'll have to show us he can break out of his end-of-season problems before I can predict anything more than the same. .500 record (plus or minus one decision), fewer than 32 starts, 4.2 ERA. Later I'm with MFS on this.

Vic Sage Mar 19 2012 09:17 AM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

8-14, ERA+ 100 Lefties take a lot longer to figure it out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 19 2012 09:48 AM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

Weird but his most similar by age thru 24 is Gio Gonzalez who put up a 130 ERA+ and made the All Star team last summer. 2nd most similar is Zach Duke who lost 15 games with a 90 ERA+ that year. Um, 12-11, 106 ERA+, gets ASG consideration and makes it because the Mets need a rep and Davis is hurt.

Edgy MD Mar 19 2012 09:54 AM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

I think the Mets have done well getting quality out of quantity when filling out the back end of their rotation --- finding guys who are nobody's ideas of top prospects, but can grind it out every fifth day for a year, have a few good runs along the way, but then the league catches up to them, and they regress and become the fringey guys they were supposed to be all along. Glendon Rusch, Jae Weong Seo, and John Maine, meet Jon Niese and Dillon Gee. Maybe. Yet something makes me believe a little in Niese. I'm still chewing on this a bit.

metirish Jun 04 2012 07:41 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

This is scary , all the best Jon. NEW YORK -- Jon Niese came away from an examination with team doctors Monday satisfied he had no significant heart issue, but the New York Mets left-hander expects to undergo a minor surgical procedure during the All-Star break to correct a heartbeat that occasionally becomes irregular. Niese was pulled from Sunday's game against the St. Louis Cardinals after tossing six scoreless innings as a precaution because he experienced a rapid heartbeat during the game. He also was forced from a June 25, 2011 game at Texas, with comparable symptoms. Niese indicated he likely will have a minor surgical procedure during the July 9-12 All-Star break. "But I wouldn't miss any starts," Niese said. "It's an 'ablation,' they call it. They go inside the heart and they crimp something of some sort -- like the cause of it. It's like an outpatient thing that they do that it only takes like three days to recover from after that. So that's why I think we might be doing it All-Star break. That way I don't miss any starts." Niese then displayed for reporters a brochure explaining the surgical procedure, which he had in his Citi Field locker after returning from the medical examination. "Down the road I'll probably get something done to stop it all," Niese said. "But for right now it's nothing serious." Niese wore a Holter monitor for 24 hours after the 2011 episode, and an echocardiogram and an EKG were performed at Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit -- the Mets' next stop on that road trip. Doctors did not detect anything alarming at the time, Niese said, and the issue largely was dropped. Niese said he underwent comparable tests Monday that also found nothing alarming. This time he will not be required to wear the Holter monitor, he added. Niese's next start will come on a full week's rest, Sunday at Yankee Stadium. Manager Terry Collins described the extra rest as related to Johan Santana's altered schedule and not as a result of Niese's issue. Santana, coming off a career-high 134 pitches in a no-hitter against St. Louis, will be delayed two days from his regular turn and start Friday in the Bronx. Because Santana and Niese both throw left-handed, Collins wanted to slot right-hander Dillon Gee between them Saturday, prompting extra rest for Niese. Also Monday, right-handed reliever Jon Rauch was getting a postgame exam with team doctors. Rauch has been experiencing elbow tenderness, Collins said. Rauch served up the game-deciding two-run homer to Allen Craig in the eighth inning of the Mets' 5-4 loss Monday. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cardia ... on/my00706

Benjamin Grimm Jun 04 2012 08:44 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

Niese indicated he likely will have a minor surgical procedure during the July 9-12 All-Star break. Hopefully everything turns out okay. Is he going to be sending Carlos Beltran a bill for this procedure?

Edgy MD Jun 04 2012 09:28 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

I don't forsee a recovery period that only lasts three days, but what do I know?

Ashie62 Jun 04 2012 09:31 PM Re: You Make the Call: Jon Niese

Ashie62 wrote: Make or break year for the lefty The Mets have bet on a make year. a "minor" heart procedure? Didn't know there were minor ones. Maybe the scnooz was his good luck charm.