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Frank Francisco doesn't like to throw the ball!

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 09 2012 11:52 AM

This is kinda bizarre:


NY Mets must address Frank Francisco's problems throwing to bases
Team knows new closer struggles with short tosses


JOHN HARPER
New York Daily News

PORT ST. LUCIE -- In Frank Francisco’s first spring training appearance for the Mets on Monday, he gave up a single and, on the next pitch, pinch-runner Eury Perez took off for second. In a conversation about his new closer a few days later, Terry Collins said he knew the runner would go on the first pitch.

Why?

"Because they know Frankie doesn't throw over," Collins said.

Huh?

"It’s something we’re working on," said the manager.

There was no play at second on Perez Monday night as Steve Lombardozzi singled on the pitch. The point is, though, that he ran because, well, the numbers say it all: base-stealers were successful in 13 of 14 attempts against Francisco last season.

Over the last four seasons, the success numbers are 33-for-36.

So it turns out the Mets have a closer whose reputation is that he doesn’t like to throw to first base to hold runners on, apparently because he can be wild.

A few phone calls to scouts confirmed that its no secret around baseball. Teams run on Francisco at first opportunity, and they bunt on him at times too, believing he's not comfortable making throws -- especially shorter ones -- to bases.

"It’s pretty common knowledge," said one scout.

Meanwhile, a player who played against Francisco in the American League said "everybody knew" that the reliever has had trouble making throws.

So that reminded me: Several days earlier I had seen Francisco make two awful throws to third during drills as the Mets were working on fielding bunts.

I had not thought much of it at the time, but Francisco fielded a bunt and fired his first throw into the ground, skipping it past David Wright. When his turn came up again, he again fielded one and this time sailed the throw well over Wright’s head.

When I went back to Collins to ask about Francisco’s throws, he admitted the Mets knew there was an issue when they signed him as a free agent during the winter for two years, $12 million.

"It’s something we've talked to him about, something he's working hard on," said Collins. "He works on it every day because in the National League, teams are going to run and they’re going to bunt. He's going to be fine."

Even so, Collins acknowledged that he didn't have Francisco throw over to first in that Monday outing against the Nationals, because he wants to give his closer more time to "get comfortable" before asking him to do so in games.

This is not exactly a minor issue, especially for a closer who will be asked to protect his share of one-run leads in the ninth inning, when a stolen base can change everything and bunts can be crucial.

Even so, Francisco has been able to establish himself as a solid reliever and sometime-closer, as he prepares for his eighth year in the big leagues. A year ago with the Blue Jays he blew three saves by late May, losing the closer role, but he didn’t blow a lead after July 1 and had a strong finish, regaining the job and converting all seven of his save opportunities from late August to the end of the season.

"I know I have the ability to do the job (as closer) here," he said on Thursday. "And most important, I’ve got the heart."

Francisco insisted he doesn’t have a problem making pickoff throws but said he knows it's important to hold runners close.

"Because I didn't throw over the last couple of years," he said, "(the Mets) probably think I don’t like it. So we’re working on it. That’s OK. In the National League you’ve got to be able to control the running game."

Pitching coach Dan Warthen said that in the work they have done with Francisco making pickoff throws, "it hasn't been an issue. But he has a little trouble with the bunt plays. We’ve got to keep working on it."

Collins said he is determined to make sure Francisco gets comfortable on both fronts. He said Francisco fields bunts and makes the throw to first routinely, as long as it’s a long-enough throw where he can cut it loose.

He said it’s the shorter throws that give him trouble, such as fielding a bunt to the third-base side and making a throw to third for a force play.

"We’re going to keep working on it because we're not going to give away a force out if we can get it," said Collins. "That can make the difference between winning or losing a game."

In a division where teams like the Marlins, Nationals, and Braves can play small ball, it could also be the difference between success or failure for a closer.

metirish
Mar 09 2012 11:57 AM
Re: Frank Francisco doesn't like to throw the ball!

First base valley fever?

Ceetar
Mar 09 2012 12:00 PM
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fine,d on't let anyone on base.

Edgy MD
Mar 09 2012 12:02 PM
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Money quote right here:

"Because I didn't throw over the last couple of years," he said, "(the Mets) probably think I don’t like it.


I've come to think all closers are at least a little crazy, and the culture we've created around it makes them that way.

More generally, it's a byproduct of specialization. You tell somebody that they only need to do one thing, given a few years, they become utterly terrified when called on to do something outside that comfort zone.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 09 2012 12:14 PM
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Along with the Harpers of the world gathering evidence against this guy as a can't-handle-New-Yorker, you can already detect a whiff of fans ready to "trash" this Francisco as the next Benitez, never knowing we should be so lucky.

TransMonk
Mar 09 2012 12:28 PM
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Lucky, indeed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 09 2012 01:22 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Along with the Harpers of the world gathering evidence against this guy as a can't-handle-New-Yorker, you can already detect a whiff of fans ready to "trash" this Francisco as the next Benitez, never knowing we should be so lucky.


Have you seen him? Holy hell, if they were filming a movie based on Jeffrey Maier or the 2000 Series, he could work as a Benitez stand-in. For me, it's not so much "trash" as "anoint."



As a few have pointed out, this could be a hilarious off-field bullpen year.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 09 2012 01:24 PM
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To me, he looks more like Jesse Jackson wearing a Pedro Martinez wig.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 09 2012 01:44 PM
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TransMonk
Mar 09 2012 01:48 PM
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Yeah, I kind of wish Francisco wore #49...and was a fraction as good as Benitez.

metirish
Mar 09 2012 01:52 PM
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Not only does Frank and Armando share a striking resemblance but it looks like Rey Sanchez does Frank's hair too.

Fman99
Mar 09 2012 08:58 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Have you seen him?



I'm starting a "Pose like Francisco Francisco" contest right now, inspired by this glorious fucking head shot.

MFS62
Mar 09 2012 09:07 PM
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Do you think this a Mackey Sasser/ Chuck Knobloch thing, or he really can't do it because he hasn't been asked to?

Later

Frayed Knot
Mar 10 2012 07:13 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Do you think this a Mackey Sasser/ Chuck Knobloch thing, or he really can't do it because he hasn't been asked to?

Later


It's always seemed to me that most pitchers - and I mean from weekend softball ones right on up to the majors - get all out of whack if asked to do anything other than throw from their normal starting routine. I mean, think about it, how many times have you watched a pitcher field a simple come-backer and look all out of sorts as he trots half-way to 1B before meekly under-handing the ball from 15 feet while the 1st-baseman has a, 'dude, just get it here!' look on his face? And how about 1-2-3 DPs? If the radar gun is still aimed correctly it'll probably clock that first throw at about 36 mph.

The best remedy for this that I've heard is to get the pitcher into the habit of bringing his hands into his chest before throwing which serves the purpose of simulating coming out of the stretch-motion and therefore puts him more into a comfort zone. Can't really do that with pickoffs so much because the time spent would negate the whole intent, but when making a throw off a fielding play it should.

Ceetar
Mar 10 2012 08:33 AM
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I hope with Collin's emphasis on the pitchers getting the bunts down properly he focuses on other fundamentals.

But it really makes you appreciate the true athletes on the mound. Like Santana.