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Jets Suck 2012

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 21 2012 10:48 AM

Just traded a fourth round pick for Tim Tebow, Internet sez. I suppose having a reserve QB who can run is a good thing but neither he or Sanchez can really throw the thing, and they seem to be inviting a controversy already.

Edgy MD Mar 21 2012 10:53 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

You hate Jesus. Just say it already.

Kong76 Mar 21 2012 11:03 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Jesus Fuckin' Chrebet ... this franchise is whack.

Frayed Knot Mar 21 2012 11:08 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Not such a shrewd move by Denver in the long run, eh -- spending a 1st round pick on Tebow and then dumping him for a 4th two years later? And just as a general observation, FA signings (plus the relatively small amount of trades that occur) seem to get done awful fast in the NFL don't they? I mean most of the FA signings happened within days of the window opening. And while folks were acting as though this Manning saga was taking longer than the primary process it was all of about 9 or 10 days from his Indy release to his done deal in Denver. Could you imagine the conniptions the football press would have had the Manning dance lasted as long as Pujols ... or Prince!?! And then, less than 24 hours after that ink is dry and Elway is claiming at the press conference that they're still weighing their options about what to do with Tebow, he's gone across the country. I suppose it has something to do with the relative lack of control NFL players have over their playing lives. But even in the few instances when the player does have clout they still seem to be unwilling to stay on the market more than a few days lest any potential offers disappear in the wind or something.

Vic Sage Mar 21 2012 11:09 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

oh crap. if you thought the clubhouse was toxic last year, when there was no alternative to Sanchez on the roster, just wait til next year if Tebow starts running an effective wildcat package as part of Tony Sparano's offense, and Sanchez is still muddling along in mediocrity. Tannenbaum is inviting a mutiny, or at least divisiveness fueled by the pack of media jackals who'll smell blood on the turf. If they are just greasing the skids for Sanchez's departure, i'd sooner have a QB-in-waiting that i truly believed could succeed long term with an NFL offense. And Tebow ain't that guy; i doubt if Rex thinks he's that guy, either. So what's the point of this? The cost (beyond the 4th round pick) will be greater than the benefit. crap.

Lefty Specialist Mar 21 2012 11:30 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The first time Sanchez gets sacked they'll be yelling for Tebow. I guess the Jets decided they weren't dysfunctional enough last year and decided to up the ante.

Lefty Specialist Mar 21 2012 11:31 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 21 2012 01:01 PM

The first time Sanchez gets sacked they'll be yelling for Tebow. I guess the Jets decided they weren't dysfunctional enough last year and decided to up the ante. I'm so pissed I posted twice.

metirish Mar 21 2012 11:33 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Adam "no question about it " Schein is on SNY saying this is great...says Tebow is a "winner", might be the best QB and running option on the team.....this was all said while screaming down the phone..

Vic Sage Mar 21 2012 11:37 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Schein's endorsement simply proves its a stupid move.

Mets – Willets Point Mar 21 2012 11:38 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

There will be peace and understanding when Tebow allows Ryan to wash his feet.

metirish Mar 21 2012 11:39 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

And Benigno is on SNY screaming down the phone about how awful this move is.....

Ceetar Mar 21 2012 11:47 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I think it's because of the salary cap. FA are wanting to sign early otherwise there's no money left for them. Teams might look to spend that money elsewhere. In baseball, it's less likely that the money goes elsewhere, especially if you're the best option at that position.

Edgy MD Mar 21 2012 11:53 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

A lot of garments rent for a fourth round pick traded for a backup quarterback .

RealityChuck Mar 21 2012 12:00 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I'm an admirer of Tebow (though not his religiosity), since he does seem to make the most of his decidedly mediocre talent. That was more his coach at Denver, though, who changed the offense to take advantage of his strengths. It worked partly because NFL defenses are very conservative and stick with conventional wisdom; conventional wisdom didn't apply to how Tebow was playing. But defenses will catch up to him. The one advantage is that the Jets can alternate quarterbacks as necessary and thus force defenses to practice completely different setups. If they prepare for Sanchez and get Tebow, they can be in big trouble; if they prepare for Tebow and get Sanchez, they will be better off, since Sanchez is a standard QB, but not as good if they don't have to prepare for both. They're also not giving up a lot to get him and he's an upgrade at backup QB. However, he will be bad for team unity, as some players will begin to take sides. Also, the fans will scream for Tebow whenever Sanchez as a bad game. Best case scenario: Tebow remains as backup, and comes in several times a game for trick plays. Sanchez figures out how to play QB and the team starts winning. Worst case: The team implodes into Sanchez vs. Tebow. Sanchez falters, Tebow comes in, looks good for awhile, and then defenses get wise to him. The one who's bound to be pissed is Drew Stanton.

Ashie62 Mar 21 2012 01:08 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Edgy DC wrote: A lot of garments rent for a fourth round pick traded for a backup quarterback . I'm guessing Tebow will do what Brad Smith used to do for the Jets, everything but throw much.

metirish Mar 21 2012 01:33 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Breaking News trade could be nullified, Tebow could now be traded to St. Louis

Edgy MD Mar 21 2012 01:50 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I ALREADY ORDERED MY JERSEY! IT'S NON-REFUNDABLE ONCE IT'S BEEN CUSTOM-STITCHED!

Vic Sage Mar 21 2012 02:21 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

metirish wrote: Breaking News trade could be nullified, Tebow could now be traded to St. Louis nullified on what basis? is "coming to your senses" a legitimate basis?

Frayed Knot Mar 21 2012 02:23 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Apparently there's some ummmm, interesting language in Tebow's contract that the Jets aren't liking. Not sure on the specifics.

metirish Mar 21 2012 02:28 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

"Tim Tebow has $5 million worth of recapture language," Schefter tweeted, "meaning Jets would have to pay back money to Denver. Jets might be unwilling."

Frayed Knot Mar 21 2012 02:32 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ceetar wrote: I think it's because of the salary cap. FA are wanting to sign early otherwise there's no money left for them. Teams might look to spend that money elsewhere. In baseball, it's less likely that the money goes elsewhere, especially if you're the best option at that position. Yeah, that's probably part of it, especially when mixed in with the idea that, while there are lots of FAs in football every year as a function of larger rosters + shorter contracts, it's rarely the top-shelf players who get to FA-gency so those lesser, more inter-changeable parts feel the need to grab the first decent offer. Even when someone like Manning does hit the market it's because he aging and/or damaged goods. Most star potential FAs still in their prime simply get "franchised" by their teams each year and never get to the market.

Ceetar Mar 21 2012 02:34 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Seems like the Jets didn't actually read the contract.

metirish Mar 21 2012 02:38 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ceetar wrote: Seems like the Jets didn't actually read the contract. and that would surprise nobody I bet.

SteveJRogers Mar 21 2012 04:50 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Edgy DC wrote: I ALREADY ORDERED MY JERSEY! IT'S NON-REFUNDABLE ONCE IT'S BEEN CUSTOM-STITCHED! Like the Mope who showed up to the Get Manny rally with a custom made ManRam24 Mets jersey?

TheOldMole Mar 21 2012 05:10 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Sure that's not $5 million worth of Rapture language?

Mets – Willets Point Mar 21 2012 05:33 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

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TheOldMole Mar 21 2012 05:52 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Go Chris!

metirish Mar 21 2012 08:00 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

TheOldMole wrote: Go Chris! Very cool Wolf Meanwhile, deal is done

Kong76 Mar 21 2012 08:09 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

See it's done too on various tv tickers ... I'm lazy, they're paying the $5mil too? Makes no sense to me, hope I'm wrong. I don't really care about his religious shit, there are too many people all over the country that do. If anyone thought having Favre on the team was a media nightmare ... uh, ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 21 2012 09:15 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Jets split the baby, pay $2.5M in "learn to read" fees. There's talk that Tebow had some say in choosing where he went, which, if true, says something VERY interesting about the guy, considering smack-in-the-middle-of-Tebow-country Jacksonville was the other primary suitor.

The Second Spitter Mar 21 2012 11:59 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I guess the Jets thought-process was something like: "We need to develop our running game." "Yep, let's get Tebow." "Done." At least, Jenn Sterger won't live in fear.

MFS62 Mar 22 2012 07:38 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

He picked coming to the Jets over Jacksonville. If Tebow is still a virgin, why do Jets fans feel that he fucked us? Later

Mets – Willets Point Mar 22 2012 08:06 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Why is it surprising that a football player chose a team in a major market (THE major market) that has been to the AFC championship game in 2 of the last 3 seasons over a small market team that hasn't had a winning season since 2007?

Edgy MD Mar 22 2012 08:09 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I'm surprised that a guy gets to pick which team he gets traded to be a backup.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 22 2012 02:30 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I believe it was a courtesy, since the offers were close/comparable-- had the Jags bowled over the Bronx with their offer, he'd be a Jag.

Kong76 Mar 22 2012 08:31 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The having a choice thing has been kinda unsubstantiated. I guess it's what you read, hear, or believe at this point. Somers' opening this evening was funny with sound bites of Tebow and Jets' guys mixed in with My Sweet Lord excerpts.

Fman99 Mar 22 2012 08:46 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

They missed Brad Smith last year. I like him as a Wildcat guy, bring him in on 3rd and 8+ to shake things up. If he's taking snaps on first down I will be depressed.

Vic Sage Mar 23 2012 08:35 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

the thing about Brad Smith, though, was he wasn't just a "wildcat guy"; he was a significant contributor on ST as a return man (and played on coverages, too), and he was also a decent 3rd WR. And nobody was ever going to split the clubhouse over whether he should be the starting QB. None of this is true about Mr. Tebow. if they can transition him so he has myriad uses on the field, beyond the half dozen or so wildcat packages sprinkled throughout a game, such that he redefines himself as a utility type "playmaker" rather than "the backup QB", then it will prove to be a good pickup. In the meantime, it's a time bomb thrown into an already shaky locker room, chum in the water for media sharks, and a source of resentment among a fanbase that already questions its team's judgment, on a team in one of the few multi-cultural cities in the US, where Tebow's evangelical behavior arouses as much antipathy as support. Yeah, not too risky a move to make for relatively little payoff.

Edgy MD Mar 23 2012 08:42 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I'll disagree that New York is one of the few multi-cultural cities. And it would be a darned shame if the city's multi-culturalism didn't have room for an evangelical quarterback on the team. That said, shmeh.

Vic Sage Mar 23 2012 08:58 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2012 09:11 AM

when you are forced by geography and demographics to live cheek by jowl (i.e., in close quarters) along with people very different from yourself, the ethos of "live and let live, just stay out of my business" becomes a necessary social lubricant. Proselytizing is anethema in this situation. You love Jesus? That's great. Not only are you expected to keep it to yourself, don't even make eye contact on the subway. Of course, diversity means there are those of all stripes here, so we have evangelicals, too. you can walk past them in times square holding up pictures of aborted fetuses. So is there "room" for him? Of course. It's not like he'll be stoned at the city limits. But will it be a potential source of tension among the fanbase, greater surely than i would've been in Jacksonville, Dallas, AZ, Memphis or Denver? Obviously. And yes, there are other multi-cultural cities around the country, but we've got more Jews than Israel, more Muslims then Dubai, more Catholics than Dublin, and more people in less square footage than anywhere short of Hong Kong. So i think this city presents a unique environment for such a public evangelical, where a uniformly (or even generally) positive response to his message is less assured than almost anywhere else in this country.

Ceetar Mar 23 2012 09:06 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

But Rex Ryan and the Jets don't care about all that. Ryan specifically has made no concessions to ever being different or ever caring what you think he should do. I like him for that, even if I don't actually care about the Jets. He's a master at working the media. He's got no problem giving them sounds byte, and in my opinion does a good job of keeping his players focused. (I don't really buy into the clubhouse was a wreck rumors with Santonio and all that that shook out) The whole backup QB flak was great. Rex basically said "This means absolutely nothing. I'm giving the backup QB some snaps with the first team because I can, and I'm going to link it to Sanchez doing well after I did it last season. I'm not actually doing it to motivate him." And Sanchez basically responds with "It angers me but it doesn't really anger me." The quotes from both of them were so full of nothing but fluff and the media took off and ran with it anyway. Rex and Mark will be on the same page, despite what the media puts out there. (And really, if Sanchez can't go about his job because the media is harping on Tebow, he wasn't going to make it anyway) If they get production out of Tebow, all the better for them. Let the media fawn, it's what they do. Thinks aren't often as disastrous and contentious as the media likes to play it off as. Of course, I don't like the guy. I don't agree with his views, particularly the one where he thinks it's okay to go on National TV and tell women what to do with their bodies, so I'm hoping he crashes and burns.

Vic Sage Mar 23 2012 09:17 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

(I don't really buy into the clubhouse was a wreck rumors with Santonio and all that that shook out) They weren't "rumors"; they were reports based on direct quotes from players and former players who hadn't seen a more toxic situation in their professional careers. Whether that FACT was a direct cause of the Jets' teamwide failure is a separate matter about which reasonable folk can disagree. But it sure as shit didn't help. And that's the heart of my objection to this move; its not about the media (or even fan) response. I agree, Rex is pretty good at dealing with that public stuff. Its the stuff INSIDE the clubhouse, where a QB is reliant on the support of the team to succeed and, when he doesn't get it, it's the beginning of the end for his tenure. This is a move that greases the skids under Sanchez. And maybe you care and maybe you don't, but it's not a rumor, it's a reality. The backup QB is always the most popular guy on a losing team; that the guy is now going to be the magical Tebow exascerbates the problem. and while i don't care for evangelism generally, or for tebow in particular, i'm rooting for him to succeed because now i'm stuck with him.

Ceetar Mar 23 2012 09:31 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

sorry, by fact/rumor I mean more of the chicken-egg thing. Were the quotes and bad clubhouse an effect of the losing or a cause? I very strongly suspect it's an effect. Just like the fans and the media, the players have an opinion on why they lost. This guy should've gotten the ball more, this guy didn't practice enough. So and So wasn't a "big enough" leader. Look at the Giants. It was hinted that Justin Tuck wasn't playing through enough pain earlier, and then later on during the losing it was insinuated that players that were banged up weren't practicing enough between games.

Edgy MD Mar 23 2012 09:39 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ceetar wrote: He's got no problem giving them sounds byte... I like to think this was the actual correct way of pluralizing this --- like attorneys general and Whoppers Junior --- and Ceetar was the only person careful and pedantic enough to bother.

Ceetar Mar 23 2012 09:50 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Edgy DC wrote: Ceetar wrote: He's got no problem giving them sounds byte... I like to think this was the actual correct way of pluralizing this --- like attorneys general and Whoppers Junior --- and Ceetar was the only person careful and pedantic enough to bother. careful and pedantic definitely do not describe my attitude towards grammar. Why would you ever pluralize Whoppers Junior? if you need more than one, get a full-size Whopper.

metirish Mar 23 2012 09:58 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The Jesus stuff shouldn't matter, I see these players on TV all the time thanking God for shit.

Ceetar Mar 23 2012 10:01 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

metirish wrote: The Jesus stuff shouldn't matter, I see these players on TV all the time thanking God for shit. What was it that make it take off with Tebow anyway? Why did/do people specifically harp on him? It was something in college right?

metirish Mar 23 2012 10:10 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Not sure but I think he's happy cos his moms didn't abort him.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2012 11:25 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ceetar wrote: metirish wrote: The Jesus stuff shouldn't matter, I see these players on TV all the time thanking God for shit. What was it that make it take off with Tebow anyway? Why did/do people specifically harp on him? It was something in college right? It's not your bag, nor mine, nor that of most of the people reading this... but he wasn't just a Heisman winner, but a bigger-than-the-game presence in college football (which, in and of itself, is bigger than Jesus in the southeast and Texas and most other places that aren't the mid-Atlantic/northeast); he was pretty vocal/unapologetic (if relatively nonconfrontational in tone) about his faith-- including his wait-until-marriage stance on sex/sexuality-- in every conceivable public forum available to him. Not only did he take part in that Focus on the Family ad during the Super Bowl (according to legend, his young mother considered aborting him), but he also went on well-publicized evangelical missions abroad-- two, IIRC-- during his college career. So... yeah, with him, it goes a little bit deeper and bigger than your typical "praises be" post-TD gesticulating, or postgame prayer-circle participation.

Ceetar Mar 23 2012 11:33 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: but a bigger-than-the-game presence in college football I'd probably dislike him just for being an over-hyped representation of the amateur version of a sport I already find pretty boring. The holier than thou stuff is just a bonus. Ryan and Robin on ESPN radio were interviewing Eric Mangini about Tebow. Asking him questions like "If you were the head coach is this a move you'd be in favor of?" just seems wrong.

Fman99 Mar 23 2012 08:26 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

metirish wrote: Not sure but I think he's happy cos his moms didn't abort him. I'm happy for that too. But I don't get into it in interviews because it's a downer to talk about.

Ashie62 Mar 24 2012 11:01 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Yeah, I dont have a horse here.

RealityChuck Mar 24 2012 01:21 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

QB Peyton Manning leaves Baltimore, signs with Denver QB Tim Tebow is traded from Denver to the Jets QB Drew Stanton is traded from the Jets to Baltimore And the circle of life continues....

Kong76 Mar 25 2012 08:11 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Fman99 wrote: metirish wrote: Not sure but I think he's happy cos his moms didn't abort him. Funny, I ain't even gonna dis it with just an lol.

Edgy MD Mar 26 2012 07:15 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I salute Chuck for demonstrating that there's at least one sports fan in America who has been disengaged from NFL football longer than I have.

Frayed Knot Apr 03 2012 04:52 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Hey S. Spitter, I think the boys here need a scouting report: Aussie rugby player to sign with Jets Either that or just ask him to stop by. You guys down there all know each other, right?

The Second Spitter Apr 04 2012 01:12 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Hey S. Spitter, I think the boys here need a scouting report: Aussie rugby player to sign with Jets? Um…….Pass! Don’t know anything about him, mate. He played for Saracens in the UK -- don't really follow club ruggers in the Northern Hemisphere much these days. Apparently, he played Second Row – big guys that can run the football. They also do lots of tackling but that’s not what the Jets will pay him for .This description may apply more to League Second Rowers than Union Second Rowers. Other than that Wikipedia says he ‘s from Penrith, which is to Sydney what Pessaic, NJ is to New York City, so he’ll fit right in. This scouting report sucks. Either that or just ask him to stop by. You guys down there all know each other, right? He plays for the American Eagles and went to college in the US so he's probably more Sepo than Aussie.... EDIT: Second Rowers in Union catch line-outs, so he has good catching skills and can jump high, which explains why he’s playing TE, presumably an accommodate to Sanchez's inaccurate throwing up the field. Photo: Not Hayden Smith He also played college-basketball somewhere which means he can catch differently shaped balls and jump high. He's probably tall too. Yeah, this scouting report still sucks.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 11:33 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I'm not a Jets fan, but it seems the majority of those in the Pool are, so I had to ask. Not much news coming from the camps, so the writers have to write about something, and today all of the papers had quotes from Mark Sanchez praising Eli Manning. No hero worship, but quite complimentary and with details that indicate that Sanchez has been paying attention to his co-tenant. So I ask this - does this drive Jets fans as crazy as I get when Wright pumps up Jeter as a role model, or is it no big deal?

Vic Sage Jul 31 2012 12:08 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

no big deal. as a life-long Jets fan, i have no hatred toward the Giants. It helps that my wife's a Giants fan, and they've shared a stadium for 20 years or so. But they rarely play against each other in a regular season game, and never in the post-season. They also went through long periods, decades even, where they sucked. so i don't really begrudge them any success. but that's me. and if Sanchez said anything nice about Jeter, i'd want his guts for garters.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 12:11 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Thanks, Vic.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 01:45 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I suspect the difference in these two cases is that the media slobbers over Jeter so much that when he hear a player doing it too we tend to say, 'not you too'!!. Eli, despite all his success, doesn't create that same sense of overload. P.S. Although I definitely know some NYJ fans who puke at the mere mention of anything Big Blue related, but I think they're the exception in this case.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 31 2012 08:05 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

My Jet fan cousin's gag reflex is tripped by Giant praise/success (the Pats-Giants SBs are like the Root-For-The-Meteor 2008 WS for him). I suspect that might be colored by his being close friends/college roommates with some pretty obnoxious Big Blue fans/terrible drunks. Me, not so much.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 08:10 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Thanks, guys. I don't really follow basketball, but of the three sports I do follow the local rivals of my team in baseball and hockey raise my ire much more than in football. As a Giants fan I have much more hate for the Eagles and Cowboys than I do for the Jets.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 09:01 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

In hockey it's natural to hate the others because the area teams are in such direct competition with each other. In baseball it's because of the arrogance that the Yanquis bring with them. In football the paths cross much less often so the hate isn't there. And in basketball it's not there either because I'm not sure that the Nets really exist. I heard they do but have never seen proof of it.

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 09:18 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Frayed Knot wrote: In hockey it's natural to hate the others because the area teams are in such direct competition with each other. In baseball it's because of the arrogance that the Yanquis bring with them. In football the paths cross much less often so the hate isn't there. And in basketball it's not there either because I'm not sure that the Nets really exist. I heard they do but have never seen proof of it. Oh, I'm sure everyone will be sick of the Nets soon. The media-slobber probably has a lot to do with it. I'm sure the ridiculous Eli is Elite ESPN made-up story was real fun for non Giants fans. And I know many Giants fans developed a little distaste for the Jets as a result of the Rex Ryan love. But that's more related to the media preferring to cover sports personalities than sports themselves. The Tebow thing is already getting old.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 09:19 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Frayed Knot wrote: In hockey it's natural to hate the others because the area teams are in such direct competition with each other. In baseball it's because of the arrogance that the Yanquis bring with them. In football the paths cross much less often so the hate isn't there. And in basketball it's not there either because I'm not sure that the Nets really exist. I heard they do but have never seen proof of it. Amen, although the Knicks barely exist to me either.

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 09:30 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Swan Swan H wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: In hockey it's natural to hate the others because the area teams are in such direct competition with each other. In baseball it's because of the arrogance that the Yanquis bring with them. In football the paths cross much less often so the hate isn't there. And in basketball it's not there either because I'm not sure that the Nets really exist. I heard they do but have never seen proof of it. Amen, although the Knicks barely exist to me either. The most interesting team that plays in MSG is the Liberty.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 09:41 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Me, I follow hockey as much as baseball. I go to fewer games because of the cost, but watch on TV all the time. I refused to switch to FIOS because they didn't carry MSG in HD until recently.

MFS62 Jul 31 2012 09:42 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ceetar wrote: Oh, I'm sure everyone will be sick of the Nets soon. I won't. I've been rooting for them since their first game in the American Basketball Association, through (rare) thick and (frequent) thin. Later

themetfairy Aug 02 2012 10:36 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

We're ready - let the suckitude begin!

metirish Aug 02 2012 12:50 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Swan Swan H wrote: Me, I follow hockey as much as baseball. I go to fewer games because of the cost, but watch on TV all the time. I refused to switch to FIOS because they didn't carry MSG in HD until recently. Thanks to Dolan, he really is a prick.....FiOS had him on court for years trying to force his hand.....I quit Optimum for FiOS......very happy....NHL Network carries some games form the Canadian feed.....love watching those. and really. must players on the Jets mouth of constantly? , gun to my head I'm a Jets fan but this current crop are tough to like.....I have no problem rooting for the Giants either.

Swan Swan H Aug 05 2012 04:04 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Good on the Jets' management and players for, essentially, pushing Nick Mangold onto a plane to go to London and see his sister compete in the Olympics. If you haven't read the story, Mangold was insistent that he belonged in camp, but the Jets organization and his teammates were insistent that he go to support her. Holley Mangold, for those who don't know, is a weightlifter who, according to the pieces I read, was not expected to do a whole lot this time around but finished in a fine 10th place. The announcers today were saying that she is expected to be a medal contender in 2016. Nicely done, all.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 05 2012 05:12 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

That 10th-place finish? She did it with two torn tendons in her right hand (she appeared to be favoring it even during the lifts).

Frayed Knot Aug 05 2012 05:35 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The former NY Giant Ross (forget his first name - I think he's now with some other team) also got permission from his team to head to London to catch his 400m-running wife. You'd think something like this would be an easy call, but in a way it's kind of surprising. Football coaches tend to view the idea of one of their players - doesn't matter if it's a starter, a reserve, whoever - missing even ten minutes of practice, film sessions, OTAs, workouts, etc., as something that's an inexcusable blow to team harmony which will lead to poor preparation for the upcoming games and probably to a decent into godless communism.

Swan Swan H Aug 05 2012 06:34 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: That 10th-place finish? She did it with two torn tendons in her right hand (she appeared to be favoring it even during the lifts). Wow. She did seem to feel it, and it was wrapped more than the left, but that makes it even more impressive than it appeared.

Vic Sage Sep 06 2012 11:04 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

getting ready for the Jets opener with some typically stupid stuff from Santonio Holmes. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/hol ... ntent=Jets Holmes told reporters yesterday that the Jets quarterback was “rattled” when he learned the team had traded for Tim Tebow way to undermine the starting QB right before the opening game of the season, Holmes.

metirish Sep 07 2012 07:50 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Vic Sage wrote: getting ready for the Jets opener with some typically stupid stuff from Santonio Holmes. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/hol ... ntent=Jets Holmes told reporters yesterday that the Jets quarterback was “rattled” when he learned the team had traded for Tim Tebow way to undermine the starting QB right before the opening game of the season, Holmes. I see what you did there with Holmes/homey/homes

Vic Sage Sep 07 2012 01:27 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

its nice to be appreciated. its rare, and its nice. puns are considered the lowest form of humor, but i've always liked them. which can get you punched if your not careful. and what about mimes? or prop comics? a bit of that stuff and you'd be begging for some puns.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 09 2012 11:09 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ooops.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 09 2012 02:39 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

This circus does pretty well at the whole scoring points/hitting people hard game, no?

Fman99 Sep 09 2012 06:52 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Well that was unexpected. Dare I get hopeful that we won't suck this year?

Frayed Knot Sep 09 2012 06:52 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

So I guess so far they suck at sucking?

The Second Spitter Sep 09 2012 07:32 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I have no clue what "wildcat play" is, but I like it.

Vic Sage Sep 09 2012 09:41 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

my ideal situation -- Sanchez is excellent, Tebow plays without making any impact, and we win handily.

RealityChuck Sep 10 2012 06:13 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I think they're still not sure about how to use Tebow, but I always felt that Sanchez was the better QB. Having the two of them in the backfield has some really interesting offensive possibilities.

metsmarathon Sep 10 2012 07:02 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

jeez, its a shame all this tebow stuff so shattered young sanchez's confidence that he was barely able to play yesterday. what ruinous thing they've done to the man!

Ceetar Sep 10 2012 07:11 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

metsmarathon wrote: jeez, its a shame all this tebow stuff so shattered young sanchez's confidence that he was barely able to play yesterday. what ruinous thing they've done to the man! How is ESPN going to spin this into a Tebow story this week?

Frayed Knot Sep 10 2012 07:13 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ceetar wrote: metsmarathon wrote: jeez, its a shame all this tebow stuff so shattered young sanchez's confidence that he was barely able to play yesterday. what ruinous thing they've done to the man! How is ESPN going to spin this into a Tebow story this week? By including 'TEBOW RECOVERS ONSIDES KICK' as part of the "important" summary information carried on their crawl at the bottom of the screen of course.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2012 12:08 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

No Jet celebrations?

metirish Sep 24 2012 12:22 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Not to rag on the replacement officials but they are making games that are barely watchable un-watchable with their constant getting together. The Pats game last night was brutal to watch.....

Edgy MD Sep 24 2012 12:36 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Easy for me to say, but people need to make a concerted effort to walk away from the NFL for a few weeks --- make a stand for the product they're entitled to and the men who give it to them.

themetfairy Sep 24 2012 01:09 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 24 2012 02:03 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Edgy DC wrote: Easy for me to say, but people need to make a concerted effort to walk away from the NFL for a few weeks --- make a stand for the product they're entitled to and the men who give it to them. If it's not going to happen for player health, it's not going to happen for benefits/pension plans-for-highly-skilled-part-time-employees.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 24 2012 02:08 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Edgy DC wrote: No Jet celebrations? And yeah, between the way yesterday's... um, non-loss came about and Darrelle Revis' injury, yesterday was more something you slink away from, half-chagrined.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2012 02:41 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Easy for me to say, but people need to make a concerted effort to walk away from the NFL for a few weeks --- make a stand for the product they're entitled to and the men who give it to them. If it's not going to happen for player health, it's not going to happen for benefits/pension plans-for-highly-skilled-part-time-employees. Well, I would suggest to everyone made miserable by the outcomes produced by these scabs that they do it in order to press for a better product.

Vic Sage Sep 24 2012 02:42 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Yeah, the less said about this one, the better. which is not how i usually feel after a win, but with Revis out for the season... well, he took the Jets' season with him, i believe. The only shot the Jets had this year was for the defense to come together and be so good that they could carry a shitty offense. But that ain't gonna happen now.

Ashie62 Sep 24 2012 06:51 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The Jets will be playing for Groupon rewards at this point and a high pick for a QB

Nymr83 Sep 27 2012 06:06 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ashie62 wrote: The Jets will be playing for Groupon rewards at this point and a high pick for a QB maybe they can pick Matt Barkley, the next USC First Round Failure! USC Quarterbacks taken in the first round of recent drafts: Mark Sanchez (5th overall pick 2009) Matt Leinert (10th overall pick 2006) Carson Palmer (1st overall pick 2003) Palmer has put a decent career together, but not a top-of-the-first-round-worthy one. Leinert has been absolitely awful. And they're calling for Sanchez's head in his 4th season, despite having made the AFC championship game in 2 of his first 3 years.

Ashie62 Sep 30 2012 01:23 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Santonio Holme's knee channels Darelle Revis..bye bye This team is horrid.

DocTee Sep 30 2012 05:54 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

That was bad. Living in Niner-land, this was tough for a NYer to witness, even if I bleed Big Blue. All week, this is what I'll hear... yikes.

Ashie62 Sep 30 2012 07:04 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

DocTee wrote: That was bad. Living in Niner-land, this was tough for a NYer to witness, even if I bleed Big Blue. All week, this is what I'll hear... yikes. Kinda like part of a generational Jet low today... Calling Rich Kotite and Keyshawn...

Fman99 Sep 30 2012 07:08 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

This game hurt my feelings.

Kong76 Sep 30 2012 07:41 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The Mets could tackle better than the Jets. Jets would be 4-0 if they could tackle. Watch the tape.

Vic Sage Sep 30 2012 09:04 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

watch the tape? WATCH THE TAPE? sure, right after i finish gargling with these razorblades...

Vic Sage Oct 10 2012 09:29 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

what, nobody has any thoughts after their last debacle on Monday night? actually, the game ended up closer than i thought it would. Those Sanchez interceptions were both tipped balls (not his fault), and his receivers dropped alot of balls. still, he missed Cromartie (Yes! Cromartie!) down the sideline, and was mostly out of sync (again) with his receivers. And their running game continues to blow. I think they need to get McNight (and even Powell) on the field more and just accept the fact that Greene is a backup. And on defense, Cromartie was great, but the vaunted young guns on the line ain't doing shit... they're not tackling, they're not rushing the QB. The LBs and secondary are making all the stops (which is not a good sign). until this team can run and stop the run (which is all about the lines, and not about schemes), then all the pressure is on our passing game, which simply cannot stand up to that. I see a 5-11 season at this point, with them going to Tebow some time after mid-season... with no discernible success.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2012 09:34 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I gotta say that I love the fact that the Jets - floudering in the standings, horribly desperate for receivers, and not at all averse to bringing in 'name' guys with questionable pasts - apparently have had no problem saying 'yeah, not interested' to Terrell Owens.

Vic Sage Oct 10 2012 09:36 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

and Burress and Chad Ochocinco. frankly, i can understand the hesitance with TO, since he's pretty much done, but i think Chad has something left and, even though a shameless self-promoter, has generally been thought of as a good teammate.

Edgy MD Oct 10 2012 09:38 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I followed this a little. (My FB friends were posting along the line of "Far be it from me to beat the drum for Tebow but no way is Sanchez getting this one back for us." So I tuned in and noted that, while they didn't pull Sanchez to give Tebow a hero opporutunity, they did, during the attempted comeback, let Sanchez get them into the red zone and then switched quarterbacks. Have they done this before? Is that a viable strategy?

Mets – Willets Point Oct 10 2012 09:39 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I saw the Meadowlands all lit up for the game on our flight back from Washington, but that's all I saw of the game.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 10 2012 09:52 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 10 2012 09:53 AM

Vic Sage wrote: until this team can run ... (which is all about the lines, and not about schemes), then all the pressure is on our passing game, You wouldn't have written that if you followed the 49ers. For the last three seasons, (one under primitive neanderthal hare-brain Mike Singletary), the Niners have had one of the most talented o-lines in the NFL. Yet it took the creative schemes of the new coaching regime, particularly HC Jim Harbaugh and his brilliant OC Greg Roman, to open up the run-attack and transform the Niners into perhaps the best rushing team in the NFL. Before Harbaugh, it was Gore up the middle into a stacked box, followed by Gore up the middle into a stacked box and then again. The trick play under Singletary was Gore off-tackle into a stacked box.

Vic Sage Oct 10 2012 09:53 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Edgy DC wrote: I followed this a little. (My FB friends were posting along the line of "Far be it from me to beat the drum for Tebow but no way is Sanchez getting this one back for us." So I tuned in and noted that, while they didn't pull Sanchez to give Tebow a hero opporutunity, they did, during the attempted comeback, let Sanchez get them into the red zone and then switched quarterbacks. Have they done this before? Is that a viable strategy? Yes, they have put Tebow in for a play here and there while in the red zone so far this season, but not for a sustained drive, but I don't recall it being particularly successful strategy yet. And i think, the more they pull Sanchez in scoring situations, the more they send the message to the team that the management has no confidence in Sanchez, and he's not the future of this team.

Vic Sage Oct 10 2012 09:54 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Vic Sage wrote: until this team can run ... (which is all about the lines, and not about schemes), then all the pressure is on our passing game, You wouldn't have written that if you followed the 49ers. For the last three seasons, (one under primitive neanderthal hare-brain Mike Singletary), the Niners have had one of the most talented o-lines in the NFL. Yet it took the creative schemes of the new coaching regime, particularly HC Jim Harbaugh and his brilliant OC Greg Roman, to open up the run-attack and transform the Niners into perhaps the best rushing team in the NFL. Before Harbaugh, it was Gore up the middle into a stacked box, followed by Gore up the middle into a stacked box and then again. Diversity under Singletary was Gore off-tackle into a stacked box. except this same coaching staff put a great running game on the field a few years ago. what has changed is the player personnel, not the offensive philosophy.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 10 2012 10:00 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Vic Sage wrote: Vic Sage wrote: until this team can run ... (which is all about the lines, and not about schemes), then all the pressure is on our passing game, You wouldn't have written that if you followed the 49ers. For the last three seasons, (one under primitive neanderthal hare-brain Mike Singletary), the Niners have had one of the most talented o-lines in the NFL. Yet it took the creative schemes of the new coaching regime, particularly HC Jim Harbaugh and his brilliant OC Greg Roman, to open up the run-attack and transform the Niners into perhaps the best rushing team in the NFL. Before Harbaugh, it was Gore up the middle into a stacked box, followed by Gore up the middle into a stacked box and then again. Diversity under Singletary was Gore off-tackle into a stacked box. except this same coaching staff put a great running game on the field a few years ago. what has changed is the player personnel, not the offensive philosophy. Well yeah. You gotta have the personnel. But you need the schemes too. BTW, on the topic of Mark Sanchez, I don't think he's the future of the Jets. (Not that Tebow is, either). Sanchez just isn't accurate enough to ever be an elite NFL QB, as far as I can see. I would attribute his past successes to the Jets running attack, which as you note, was excellent in the recent past.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 10 2012 10:07 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Jeez, we shoulda made a friendly cyber-bet on the game two weeks ago. I woulda given you 30 points.

Vic Sage Oct 10 2012 10:09 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Well yeah. You gotta have the personnel. But you need the schemes too. BTW, on the topic of Mark Sanchez, I don't think he's the future of the Jets. (Not that Tebow is, either). Sanchez just isn't accurate enough to ever be an elite NFL QB, as far as I can see. I would attribute his past successes to the Jets running attack, which as you note, was excellent in the recent past. agreed. but about Sanchez, even if the team is going to move on (and i think they should, too), you can't undermine your QB in the middle of a season and even hope to win many games. If you had the heir apparent sitting there, and its a lost season anyway, then sure. But i don't for a second think THEY think Tebow is a long-term answer, and with Sanchez signed through next year with big guaranteed money, i don't see why they've engaged in all the undermining they've already done. (e.g., bringing Tebow in, in the first place, and using him in the red zone; keeping Holmes on board after he was such an asshole to Sanchez; not bringing in ANY offensive weapons to reduce the load on him, etc). Maybe letting both Sanchez and Tebow fall on their faces is a secret plan to elevate McElroy next year? I'm only half kidding.

Nymr83 Oct 10 2012 11:26 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Holmes was a necesity even if he is not a team player, I like Hill but he is raw in terms of skills. Schilens, Kerley, and that clown with the long hair blocking his name are not a decent receiving group. Cromartie in the preseason said he was the Jets 2nd best receiver. He may be right.

Ashie62 Oct 10 2012 12:39 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

What happened to Shonn Greene and the running game? The Loss of LaDainian Tomlinson has hurt. So, Sanchez has to run an offense with a feeble running game and mediocre at best wideouts. How about Tebow at tailback and I'm only half kidding.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 10 2012 01:13 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I'm totally in favor of pulling Sanchez for Tebow at this point. Wait, refresh my memory-- Tebow is the guy who can block edge rushers, open interior seams for runners, catch passes out of the backfield, and run routes so as to get separation from defensive backs more often than not, right?

Vic Sage Oct 10 2012 01:15 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

i really thought they were designing an offense that would get Tebow on the field regularly, perhaps as an H-back, blocking, running, catching passes and occasionally taking a snap in the wildcat, while providing the kind of element on special teams he showed on the fake punt for a 1st down. That kind of multiple play-making role is the only thing that justifies bringing him in in the first place. That they've done almost none of this just leaves Tebow on the bench like a ticking PR-Bomb.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 10 2012 01:22 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ... Tebow is the guy who can block edge rushers, open interior seams for runners .... Why would anyone want their QB doing that stuff against NFL defenders?

Edgy MD Oct 10 2012 01:27 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I guess because he's their backup quarterback, and football players are far more expendable. It's funny that football has become so specialized that a guy that's just a perfectly universal football player like that can conceivably (if not actually) be slotted in without shame at any position, but isn't the ideal player at any of them. If you had to field an entire team with clones of a single player, you could do far worse than him. Who else would be your main candidates? Lawrence Taylor? Bo Jackson? Randall Cunningham? John Riggins? (Oh, Jim Brown, duh...)

batmagadanleadoff Oct 10 2012 01:30 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Edgy DC wrote: I guess because he's their backup quarterback, and football players are far more expendable. That can't be the reason unless Tebow's coaches are maniacs. The game is so brutal that every QB is always one play away from being annihilated.

Vic Sage Oct 10 2012 01:43 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

batmagadanleadoff wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ... Tebow is the guy who can block edge rushers, open interior seams for runners .... Why would anyone want their QB doing that stuff against NFL defenders? you wouldn't except he's not really a QB. He's a guy you can play there, for a limted period and under certain circumstances, but he can be useful other places, too. He's also not built like most QBs; at 6-3, 240lb, he's more of a MLBer or fullback. and unless you use him as a swiss-army knife, there's really no point in having him on the team. Because if Sanchez goes down, they have to totally redesign the offense to accommodate the fact that the QB can't really throw at a pro level. I would just as soon have them use McElroy as the backup, who can run a pro offense, and keep using tebow in multiple roles.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 10 2012 01:58 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

My point-- not terribly well landed, apparently-- was that Sanchez is about 9th or 10th (maybe) on their list of problems, and nowhere near the 5 most pressing issues. He played a good game with great moments on Monday night, against a superlative defense with a freakish interior-line talent (Watts), armed with a severely-underperforming line, playcalling that subs in a backup QB every third play or so, and-- this is NOT hyperbole-- the least talented set of skill-position players in the league.

Vic Sage Oct 15 2012 10:29 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

yee hah! good ole fashion butt kicking of the Colts yesterday. Just when i was ready to give up on Shonne Greene, he puts up a 160yd/3td career game. Powell and McNight added to a dominant ground game. Even Sanchez looked good with a small but efficient passing game, hooking up with the Hill Bros for big plays. And Tebow once again executes a big play on a fake punt. The defensive line showed up, too, knocking Mr. Luck-less around like a rag doll. Cromartie was an intimidator (even with all the flags) in the backfield. Now if we can do all this against a GOOD team, we'll really have something.

Elster88 Oct 21 2012 05:59 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

1) Kick return for a touchdown. I think that's the first one the Patriots have had since there were no face masks. 2) Safety. Sanchez was right to kick it out of the end zone, but of course it shouldn't have been there in the first place. 3) First drive of the second half, 3rd and 1 on the Patriots 3. You've been running it down their throat the entire drive, and you're 7 for 7 on 3rd and 1 running Greene this year, so don't fucking throw the ball. 4) Driving in the fourth quarter, down 3, 3rd down, Hill drops a first down on the Patriots 11 with no one anywhere near him. (the drive immediately preceding the Patriot fumble on the kick return.) Coulda shouda woulda. If Revis was around I feel like this team could be a fringe playoff contender. Coming into today there were only two teams in the AFC with winning records, so I guess a wildcard is possible. If they win the rematch with the Patriots they could be back in first in the division. Whatever. This blows.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2012 06:05 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Another game where a pass interference penalty is about the biggest play.

metirish Oct 21 2012 06:25 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Am I crazy or did Jim Nantz actually say that the Jets beat the Patriots and "this is a huge upset"?

themetfairy Oct 21 2012 06:26 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

He did say that. I want what he's smoking....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 21 2012 06:34 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I think that he meant, "The Jets staying in it until the very end was a a huge upset." Oh, that PI call. From 30 feet behind the play, overruling the guy right there, and two other officials who were in the middle of the field, also physically closer. More importantly, OH, that kick-the-FG decision on 4th-and-1 inside the five.

Kong76 Oct 21 2012 06:36 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

He said it, he must have had a 10 1/2 point bet

Frayed Knot Oct 21 2012 07:16 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Oh, that PI call. From 30 feet behind the play, overruling the guy right there, and two other officials who were in the middle of the field, also physically closer. It's like the LF line ump making the Infield Fly rule call rather than, oh I dunno, one of the INFIELD umps maybe. Glad that never happens.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 21 2012 07:22 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Frayed Knot wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Oh, that PI call. From 30 feet behind the play, overruling the guy right there, and two other officials who were in the middle of the field, also physically closer. It's like the LF line ump making the Infield Fly rule call rather than, oh I dunno, one of the INFIELD umps maybe. Glad that never happens. Point taken... but it's more like the LF ump-- who isn't the crew chief-- making an out call on a close play at home to overrule the plate ump. You LITERALLY never see this kind of overrule; I'm fairly sure I've never seen it before.

Ceetar Oct 22 2012 07:16 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Oh, that PI call. From 30 feet behind the play, overruling the guy right there, and two other officials who were in the middle of the field, also physically closer. It's like the LF line ump making the Infield Fly rule call rather than, oh I dunno, one of the INFIELD umps maybe. Glad that never happens. Point taken... but it's more like the LF ump-- who isn't the crew chief-- making an out call on a close play at home to overrule the plate ump. You LITERALLY never see this kind of overrule; I'm fairly sure I've never seen it before. I think you see that in baseball occasionally. Did the Maier home run get called by one of the infield guys? I feel like we've seen infield umps overrule on home run calls (pre review anyway) speaking of review, I clearly haven't been paying attention but it's more obvious when you're in the car and don't have anything else to do for 10 minutes.. the NFL now automatically reviews all scoring plays and all turnover plays? They're running out of things to have the coaches appeal and seem to be going off the field 10 times a game. Maybe it's time for the a dedicated guy in a computer room somewhere?

Mets – Willets Point Oct 22 2012 08:12 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

You all make it sound like the Patriots are a good team. I don't follow the NFL but I have it on authority from the Boston fanbase that Patriots are the suckiest sucks who ever sucked. Or maybe they're just entitled whiners who lack perspective?

Nymr83 Oct 22 2012 07:25 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Hill was WIDE open, but rookies drop balls and that was a rep he had coming out of school. For the record, it was 3rd and 1 at the TWO yard line. That pass to Schilenz pissed me off. FUCKING RUN THE FUCKING BALL RIGHT THE FUCK DOWN THEIR FUCKING THROATS! And then, on 4th down, FUCKING RUN THE FUCKING BALL RIGHT THE FUCK UP THEIR FUCKING ASSES AGAIN! You think you are going to beat the Pats kicking field goals???? Come Monday morning, would you rather say "we lost because we took 3 and let Brady beat us" or "we lost because we couldn't gain 1 yard on the ground twice in a row when it mattered.". Go for the lead there.

Ashie62 Oct 22 2012 08:19 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

If Stephen Hill catches that ball the Jets win. Blame him.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 26 2012 04:59 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Jets' player is a league leader.

Nymr83 Oct 28 2012 11:43 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

This is turning into a disaster at the meadowlands. still in the 1st Quarter, Dolphins drove down for a FG largely as a result of penalties, recovered an onside kick, blocked a punt for a TD, and now strip-sacked Mr. Fumble and are about to get up 17-0

Kong76 Oct 28 2012 12:17 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Feeling ill ... beer tastes bad so you know it's bad ...

Kong76 Oct 28 2012 12:19 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Putting Teblow in for one snap on first down and then yanking him is stupid and messes with Sanchez's head. Hating this game. Hat!!

Kong76 Oct 28 2012 12:20 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

And where is the offensive line?? Did they leave 'cause Sandy is coming??

Ceetar Oct 28 2012 01:06 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

just turned it on "Green Turns on the speed! caught from behind!" that seems like a bad thing.

Kong76 Oct 28 2012 01:15 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I like Ian Eagle ... Fouts can go flush himself ...

Kong76 Oct 28 2012 01:18 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Don't understand the lack of hurry-up offense. Flush them ... interception ... bring on the bye ...

Kong76 Oct 28 2012 01:41 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I'm sorry to rant, but you can't give up in the third quarter and that's exactly what they did.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2012 02:12 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

What a shitshow by the Jets.

Ashie62 Oct 28 2012 04:06 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Kong76 wrote: And where is the offensive line?? Did they leave 'cause Sandy is coming?? Would Sandy Alderson help?

Kong76 Nov 11 2012 04:36 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

There must be more enjoyable ways to spend my Sundays.

G-Fafif Nov 11 2012 05:11 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Now on SNY: the Jetstivus Airing of Grievances, in which Post Game Live hosts gather the Jets around and tell the coaches and players all the ways they've disappointed them over the past week.

Kong76 Nov 11 2012 05:23 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

That post-game SNY crew is a good mix ... today just sucked.

G-Fafif Nov 11 2012 05:26 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Kong76 wrote: That post-game SNY crew is a good mix ... today just sucked. They're highly watchable (unlike their subject), like Ojeda Times Three.

Ashie62 Nov 11 2012 07:43 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Start tanking for a QB

Nymr83 Nov 12 2012 06:48 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ashie62 wrote: Start tanking for a QB Better get a Right Tackle to go with him!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 22 2012 07:28 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LOL Jets.

Frayed Knot Nov 23 2012 05:50 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Wait, I think the Jets just fumbled again. Switching to one of the other games for a minute -- it's apparently illegal for a coach to throw a challenge flag on a play that's going to be challenged automatically and if he does try to challenge a play already slated to be challenged then said play is no longer eligible to be challenged and the coach who challenged it is penalized to boot. What exactly is the point of all that?

Nymr83 Nov 23 2012 08:03 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Woody apparently begged the league for the Thanksgiving game. Fucking dick. If you're going to play one of the ugliest games ever have the fucking decency to do it Sunday at 1pm when we can flip to another game!

themetfairy Nov 23 2012 08:13 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Nymr83 wrote: Woody apparently begged the league for the Thanksgiving game. Fucking dick. If you're going to play one of the ugliest games ever have the fucking decency to do it Sunday at 1pm when we can flip to another game! Seriously? Woody begged for fans to either leave their families on Thanksgiving or otherwise take huge losses on their tickets that nobody wanted to buy? I hope he learned his lesson and never does this again.

HahnSolo Nov 23 2012 08:17 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Frayed Knot wrote: Wait, I think the Jets just fumbled again. Switching to one of the other games for a minute -- it's apparently illegal for a coach to throw a challenge flag on a play that's going to be challenged automatically and if he does try to challenge a play already slated to be challenged then said play is no longer eligible to be challenged and the coach who challenged it is penalized to boot. What exactly is the point of all that? To not embarass the refs. It's a joke, that rule, and I am sure it will change.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 23 2012 08:46 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

15-yard-penalty is more than sufficient there. Last night's game, in one descriptive GIF.

Swan Swan H Nov 23 2012 08:56 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: 15-yard-penalty is more than sufficient there. Amen. Want to penalize the coach? Fine, but this rule defeats the whole purpose of replay, which is to get the play right. Tack on 5 for delay, or even 15 for unsportsmanlike (on the ensuing kickoff, if necessary), but the play should stand as it would have based on the replay.

Frayed Knot Nov 23 2012 09:46 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Swan Swan H wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: 15-yard-penalty is more than sufficient there. Amen. Want to penalize the coach? Fine, but this rule defeats the whole purpose of replay, which is to get the play right. Tack on 5 for delay, or even 15 for unsportsmanlike (on the ensuing kickoff, if necessary), but the play should stand as it would have based on the replay. What strikes me is that I don't see the purpose of the rule in the first place. A rule is there to prevent something you don't want to happen, but what's the downside of a superfluous red flag ... that someone then has to go through the trouble of picking it up? It's not like basketball where a team signaling for a time-out when it doesn't have one deserves to be punished because they disrupted the flow of play by their action. In this case, the action is already stopped and the booth is reviewing the play anyway. But then, there's a lot in the NFL that I don't understand.

Frayed Knot Nov 23 2012 09:52 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

themetfairy wrote: Woody apparently begged the league for the Thanksgiving game. Fucking dick. If you're going to play one of the ugliest games ever have the fucking decency to do it Sunday at 1pm when we can flip to another game! Seriously? Woody begged for fans to either leave their families on Thanksgiving or otherwise take huge losses on their tickets that nobody wanted to buy? I hope he learned his lesson and never does this again. The NFL long ago decided their TV audience is much more important than the paying customers. The idea that a game on a holiday, in the northeast, in late November where the 2nd half doesn't start until 10:15 might be inconvenient to ticket holders I doubt ever entered into their thinking.

Vic Sage Nov 23 2012 12:55 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

this game was so bad it was funny. my kids were in hysterics as we reinacted the "Sanchez just knocked himself out on a lineman's ass!" play over and over. i wanted everybody fired or released before they started the 3rd Q.

Kong76 Nov 23 2012 03:06 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

That was embarrassing, back up the truck and forfeit the remaining games. (love that .gif)

Fman99 Nov 23 2012 08:31 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Spent much of the afternoon yesterday with my inlaws, watching the early slate of games and soaking up some Thanksgiving day mirth. And, waiting to bug out of my wife's aunt's house to come home and watch the Jets game. Tuned in to the game on XM on the one hour drive home, when we left Morrisville the Jets were driving towards the first score of the game, and by the time we got home it was 28-0 Pats. I did not bother to turn on the game once we got home. Fuck these guys.

themetfairy Nov 24 2012 09:27 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

D-Dad has two extra tickets for next Sunday's game (December 2nd), in a different area from where we'll be sitting. Let me know if anyone is interested. The price is highly negotiable.

Nymr83 Nov 25 2012 01:20 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

If you're paying me to take them off your hands.... I'd still say no.

Ashie62 Nov 26 2012 11:51 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

He coulda thanked his brother for hauling him around all these years.

Vic Sage Nov 26 2012 12:08 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

This reminds me of the early days of the forum (and before that, the MOFO), when somebody would get pissed and then make some long post explaining why they were never going to post here (or there) anymore. and that would usually last about a week. Although some did stay away (where have you gone doc greenleaf?), the bottom line was always "who cares?" nobody hired Ed, nobody's firing him. he does it cuz he wants to and he can stop because he wants to. But for crissakes, shut up about it. NOBODY CARES! Sitting on your brother's shoulders didn't put you above us, it just made us have to look at your ass. sit down and shut the fuck up already.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 26 2012 03:06 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

When you listen to him speak, or read quotes of his, Ed gives one the impression of someone who's been getting high on his own supply for, like, twenty years.

Kong76 Nov 26 2012 04:16 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

What's this all about? Did Ed hang up his Jet-helmet?

metirish Nov 26 2012 04:27 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Kong76 wrote: What's this all about? Did Ed hang up his Jet-helmet? yeah, tune to NBC 4 , he is making all the local sports reports. Agree with what's being said about the guy...STFU already.

Kong76 Nov 26 2012 04:29 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Thanks, just saw on fb ... he started getting on my nerves like ten years ago ... see ya!!

Mets – Willets Point Nov 26 2012 07:59 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Don't know much about the guy, but I read his piece and thought he had a good point about the general douchebaggery among the fan base. I could see parallels to the douches who are overwhelming the Mets fan base the past half-decade or so.

Frayed Knot Nov 26 2012 09:48 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I remember F.E. becoming a bit of a controversial figure starting about the time of the debate over a proposed west side Manhattan stadium. Many fans were against the idea on account of the lack of parking/tail-gating room but when Ed publicly came out in favor of it it drew the ire from some fans (Benigno prominently among them) who got the the impression that Ed being for the idea meant he was becoming a lackey for NYJ management. Now what it sounds like is that the 'you're either for or against' mentality has bled over to the QB controversy to the point where he feels he needs to deny that he's on the team payroll and probably longs for the day when he was just the guy leading the chants on his brother's shoulders (his brother never seemed to get enough credit as Ed doesn't seem to be a small guy). If fans are really getting on him strictly on account of the shirt he's wearing he's right about fan dickery although I suspect it goes a bit deeper than that.

Nymr83 Dec 02 2012 11:13 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

on the first fucking play Sanchez throws a little floater to... Kerry Rhodes! enough with this clown, we want McElroy!

Kong76 Dec 02 2012 11:19 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Let the suckitude continue! What is it with this guy and 'jump street' ... this is gonna be a long game ...

Nymr83 Dec 02 2012 11:20 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

But the Defense stands strong! where would this team be with Revis, Holmes, and a league average quarterback?

Nymr83 Dec 02 2012 11:36 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Rhodes again. Sanchez is TERRIBLE

Kong76 Dec 02 2012 01:04 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

This game is about as entertaining as watching grass grow.

Kong76 Dec 02 2012 01:10 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Johnny Unitas McElroy gets a standing ovation.

Nymr83 Dec 02 2012 01:20 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Johnny Unitas McElroy gets a standing ovation. M-V-P! M-V-P!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 02 2012 01:37 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

McMadness? Bama-nia?

Nymr83 Dec 02 2012 02:00 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

smart play by Greene to take a knee there instead of score the TD.

MFS62 Dec 02 2012 02:38 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Greg, you are my hero. Later

themetfairy Dec 02 2012 05:52 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

It's not every day that you get to see a quarterback make his NFL debut -

Ashie62 Dec 02 2012 06:16 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

People other than Tannenbaum and Ryan will be running the draft. Sanchez is a career back up.

Nymr83 Dec 02 2012 08:01 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ashie62 wrote: People other than Tannenbaum and Ryan will be running the draft. Sanchez is a career back up. the draft has been bad since Rex got here hasn't it? 2012- too early to say, but the preliminary result are (1) Coples not living up to being a mid-1st quality guy, (2) Hill needs alot of work (3) Davis looks ok in spurts, 2011- (1) Wilkerson is getting to be pretty good, no 2nd rounder, (3) Ellis is barely ever on the field, (4) Powell is playing some, (5) Kerley is a keeper, (7) McElroy... Rex's best draft of the 4 and its probably an "average draft" 2010- (1) Wilson is an adequate corner, (2) Ducasse was a huge waste of a pick, no 3rd rounder, (4) Mcknight can return kicks 2009 - traded up for (1) Sanchez... oops. (3) Greene rarely looks like a good running back, (6) Slausson plays and thats enough for a 6th rounder (this was the entire draft that year)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 02 2012 08:08 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Nymr83 wrote: 2009 - traded up for (1) Sanchez... oops. (3) Greene rarely looks like a good running back, (6) Slausson plays and thats enough for a 6th rounder (this was the entire draft that year) The takeaway (looking at Jets history and, say, Pats history, by contrast)? Trading up-- unless it's for a REAL once-in-a-generation talent-- is generally a fool's errand; trading down for more lottery tickets is generally the way to go. Honestly, at this point... as a Jets fan, I'm bemoaning the easy schedule, as they're going nowhere, and-- as regards next year-- I'd rather they play well and lose than play iffy and win.

Nymr83 Dec 03 2012 06:42 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

If the Jets win out they probably lose the tie-breaker to Pittsburgh (H2H victory) at 9-7. Indy is already at 8 wins for the 1st wildcard. The schedule is easy enough that even a bad team could get to 7-9 here, and I just hope ending the season 3 and 2 doesn't fool anyone into thinking changes aren't needed.

metirish Dec 03 2012 06:50 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I always find it funny when the starter gets subbed out and the TV cuts to him on the sideline scribbling furiously on a clip board......wtf are you writing there Mark?

themetfairy Dec 03 2012 11:32 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ashie62 Dec 03 2012 03:56 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Woody Johnson has to be one pissed off owner.

Farmer Ted Dec 04 2012 11:52 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

this is precious. https://twitter.com/_NickBrewer/status/ ... to/1/large

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 04 2012 11:54 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Farmer Ted wrote: this is precious. https://twitter.com/_NickBrewer/status/ ... to/1/large "GOD, OUR QUARTERBACK IS SO FUCKING STUPID, HE SHOULD JUST... HE SHOULD JUST DIE!" -A guy who's about to buy himself a $150-$300 novelty gift

RealityChuck Dec 04 2012 03:55 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Some nice news about the Jets: http://1045theteam.com/tim-tebow-calls- ... car-crash/ This is local to me; some drunk driver rammed into a car with four HS students; two died. One of the survivors was a Tebow fan.

Nymr83 Dec 05 2012 09:31 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ryan has named Sanchez the starter for Sunday. Trainwreck.

RealityChuck Dec 07 2012 08:03 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

It's the only choice he had in the matter. Tebow had a broken rib. It made absolutely no sense to start him, or even to have him suit up: his strength is his ability to run (certainly not his ability to pass) and it'd be nuts to have him play. McElroy is adequate, but last week he was playing against an absolutely awful team with a QB who makes the QB in Electric Football a paragon of passing accuracy (he even made Tebow look good). Since you didn't have to worry about them scoring, you could just run it out and march to the end zone. Thus, Sanchez. He has at least shown flashes of excellence in the past, and Jacksonville has an awful defense, which will help him.

MFS62 Dec 09 2012 04:16 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

In case you haven't seen the show or the movie trailer, the new movie Les Miserables is NOT about the Jets passing attack. But, as Bart Scott said after the game, "A win is a win". Later

Frayed Knot Dec 17 2012 08:23 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

OK, it's been a while since I watched a Jets game so this is probably going to be redundant to most of you ... GOOD LORD THEY SUCK!!!! I think the addition of Josh Thole could improve their offense.

Nymr83 Dec 17 2012 08:28 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

One bad play by the Jets defense, which has otherwise held despite poor field position, but that could be all it takes to defeat Suck-chez and crew. The Jet offense seems historically inept.

Fman99 Dec 17 2012 08:41 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Frayed Knot wrote: OK, it's been a while since I watched a Jets game so this is probably going to be redundant to most of you ... GOOD LORD THEY SUCK!!!! I think the addition of Josh Thole could improve their offense. BOC right there. Watching the Jets is like watching old people fornicate. Not "Diane Keaton keeping her shit together" old people, I mean, deleted Cronin/Tandy scenes from "Cocoon" nasty.

Frayed Knot Dec 17 2012 08:50 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

And now that we say all this they actually score - although 80% of that was due to a bad punt. But prior to that it looked like the Titans would gain more ground on offense by letting the Jets have like 8 or 9 downs per series instead of actually taking possession of the ball themselves considering the way the Jets back up more often than go forward.

Nymr83 Dec 17 2012 08:54 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Jets really suck.

Frayed Knot Dec 18 2012 07:04 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The Titans best moments on offense (other than that one run) were when the Jets had the ball, and the Jets best moments on offense were when the Titans were punting. Even Tirico was saying how bad that game was and NFL announcers usually consider themselves to be practically league employees and will agree to broadcast naked in December in Green Bay before saying anything negative towards the shield.

Swan Swan H Dec 18 2012 07:57 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

We finished decorating the tree and left Christmas music on the stereo and the game on mute, but you didn't need anyone telling you what a stinker it was. It looked like a match between two high schools best known for their science programs.

The Second Spitter Dec 18 2012 08:12 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 18 2012 11:06 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Good Lord. GOOD LORD.

Ashie62 Dec 18 2012 11:26 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

How can Sanchez go from back to back Conference championship games to this? Was his supporting cast two years ago that much better. It would kinda of suck to try and draft a new franchise QB and then trade Sanchez for about a #5 pick.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 18 2012 12:24 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ashie62 wrote: How can Sanchez go from back to back Conference championship games to this? Was his supporting cast two years ago that much better. Yes. Because the team more or less mortgaged these last two years, salary-cap-wise, to get guys like Bart Scott and Edwards and Holmes for the first two conference-championship-losing teams.

Frayed Knot Dec 18 2012 12:36 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Just to watch his throws last night was amazing. First of all about 80% of the stuff he threw were little dump-offs of about five yards or less and, even still, half of them were behind his receivers, or at their feet, or somehow otherwise off the mark. Watching him pass was like watching Thole hit: weak and ineffective. And then the few times he did heave the ball more than ten yards it got intercepted. I mean, watching him get a face-full of ass is one thing; that was funny but could totally happen to anyone even if it did some capture the thrust of the NYJ season. But watching (most of) the game last night as I haven't done for a while now truly puts the suck into perspective.

Vic Sage Dec 18 2012 12:53 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Sanchez now throws like Mackey Sasser. The Jets make me reconsider Robespierre's use of the guillotine... "The blade of the law should hover over all the guilty." Clean house, Woody... starting with you. feel free to go to games, but stay the hell out of personnel decisions. Then hire a real personnel guy to "consult" (i.e., take over), reducing Tanny to the business affairs guy he should be, and the consultant can decide on the fate of Rex and Sanchez. I'm happy to see them both go, frankly, but there has to be a plan for going forward, not just blood in the streets simply to satiate the fanbase. We'll be happy when we win; nothing else should matter here.

Swan Swan H Dec 18 2012 01:25 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Looks like McElroy will start for the remainder of the season. Ryan press conference at 4:45.

SteveJRogers Dec 18 2012 02:24 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Feel bad for Tebow. Never did get the chance to fail spectacularly to the point where you obviously had to go to the third string guy. Kind of feels like this is more of an FUCK YOU to Woody Johnson who was the one that brought him here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 18 2012 04:40 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

No, Tebow had the opportunity to fail elsewhere. The only way Denver managed something half-operable last year-- and even then, only in fits and starts-- was by tailoring the offense specifically to his skill set. This offense is created for/staffed for someone who can throw; there's a reason why it ain't working with Sanchez, and those reasons-- general accuracy, quick release, and pinpoint precision on short-to-intermediate throws... or lack thereof-- are all the more pronounced with Tebow.

RealityChuck Dec 20 2012 11:59 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The Jets want to trade Sanchez. I'm sure people are clamoring for him, willing to go so far as to give up a seventh-round draft choice.

Nymr83 Dec 20 2012 02:04 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Considering that the cap hit makes him almost un-cuttable, the Jets would HAPPILY trade him just for salary relief. But who would want that contract, even if they were intrigued by him?

MFS62 Dec 20 2012 02:06 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

When GM Mike Tannenbaum was hired, and since then, we have heard his strength is great cap management. Really? With the Sanchez and other large (guaranteed) contracts he has chained the Jets finaces to an anchor and then tossed them in the ocean. The ability to improve the team may be hamstrung for years to come. There has been talk of bringing in a "football guy" and keeping Tanny as the cap specialist. If your company's financial advisor had invested your pension in Enron stock, would he still have a job? Should Tanny? Later

cooby Dec 22 2012 08:21 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Question: What is the "More bad news for Tebow"? I hate clicking on news videos, and you fellows prolly can tell me.

Ashie62 Dec 22 2012 08:50 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The Jets just need some 1969 NY magic!

cooby Dec 22 2012 09:04 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

1969 was cool! Mets and Jets...

Ashie62 Dec 22 2012 11:00 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Yes it was! Now if we can get Shea stadium back lol

seawolf17 Dec 22 2012 11:09 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Ashie62 Dec 22 2012 03:51 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Thats what Fireman Ed should have worn.

Frayed Knot Dec 22 2012 06:05 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

cooby wrote: Question: What is the "More bad news for Tebow"? I hate clicking on news videos, and you fellows prolly can tell me. After being hired to be (among other things) the backup quarterback, Tebow is NOT being given the starting QB job now that the starting QB has been benched. So unless both the original 1st string & 3rd string guys run into and simultaneously knock each other out, Tebow is not going to start, or even play much in, any of the next two games. At which point he'll likely be traded, dumped, cut, shipped to Canada, or whatever once the season is over.

Kong76 Dec 22 2012 07:13 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Like 97.347% (give or take a thousandth) predicted... it all worked out a disaster and a distraction.

Vic Sage Dec 22 2012 08:54 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

yeah, nobody saw THAT coming, right?

cooby Dec 23 2012 05:31 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Frayed Knot wrote: Question: What is the "More bad news for Tebow"? I hate clicking on news videos, and you fellows prolly can tell me. After being hired to be (among other things) the backup quarterback, Tebow is NOT being given the starting QB job now that the starting QB has been benched. So unless both the original 1st string & 3rd string guys run into and simultaneously knock each other out, Tebow is not going to start, or even play much in, any of the next two games. At which point he'll likely be traded, dumped, cut, shipped to Canada, or whatever once the season is over. What a waste of a year for this kid. I don't like it when teams play games like that with a young athlete.

RealityChuck Dec 23 2012 06:00 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

11 sacks? Who gets 11 sacks?

Vic Sage Dec 23 2012 09:05 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

a potato farmer with 11 deliveries to make and no sacks in the shed... and any high school team playing the NY Jets.

G-Fafif Dec 24 2012 04:40 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Brutal watching McElroy thrown to the turf repeatedly in the fourth quarter. Also brutal, though in a whole different light: it being widely reported the 11 sacks allowed tied a Jets record set in 1987 without it being mentioned those sacks were registered in a replacement game, a circumstance that begs to be asterisked even 25 years later. All retroactively hail Sonia Sotomayor for sparing the baseball record books such indignities...no offense, David Norrie, wherever you are.

Frayed Knot Dec 24 2012 05:54 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Brutal watching McElroy thrown to the turf repeatedly in the fourth quarter. Also brutal, though in a whole different light: it being widely reported the 11 sacks allowed tied a Jets record set in 1987 without it being mentioned those sacks were registered in a replacement game, a circumstance that begs to be asterisked even 25 years later. Stuff like that doesn't get mentioned because the NFL publicity machine long ago decided that the replacement games never actually happened.

G-Fafif Dec 24 2012 05:59 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Brutal watching McElroy thrown to the turf repeatedly in the fourth quarter. Also brutal, though in a whole different light: it being widely reported the 11 sacks allowed tied a Jets record set in 1987 without it being mentioned those sacks were registered in a replacement game, a circumstance that begs to be asterisked even 25 years later. Stuff like that doesn't get mentioned because the NFL publicity machine long ago decided that the replacement games never actually happened. Indeed, they were Draconian in declaring those games counted in every way imaginable. Still, it should have set off an alarm bell when the date and name of the QB was mentioned...though one has to take into account that the PAs passing these notes behind the scenes are probably too young to know there ever were replacement games. "Real" record was 10, which is how many times Ken O'Brien was flattened in a game against the Raiders in September 1985. He survived to make the Pro Bowl that year, having led the Jets to a Wild Card.

metirish Dec 24 2012 06:22 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Neil Best on Twitter(one of the best to follow) sportswatch My favorite Jets quote of season, in which Rex Ryan assesses Greg McElroy: "When he wasn't on his back, I thought he did some good things."

Frayed Knot Dec 24 2012 06:41 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

metirish wrote: "When he wasn't on his back, I thought he did some good things." I wonder if that line's ever been said about Paris Hilton?

RealityChuck Dec 24 2012 09:56 AM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Don't give Tannenbaum any ideas. Though Hilton might get better results than the current QB corps.

Nymr83 Dec 26 2012 05:37 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Cromartie and Landry named to the Pro Bowl. I'm a bit surprised by Landry. Its nice to see Cro get recognition for how well he played in Revis' absense.

The Second Spitter Dec 26 2012 10:20 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Nymr83 wrote: Cromartie and Landry named to the Pro Bowl. I'm a bit surprised by Landry. Its nice to see Cro get recognition for how well he played in Revis' absense. i aegre on u nymer83 chromatty bestest cornback in nfl but neva gez rekognishion beecuz midea mayks reevees supasta chromatty tuffer + pwns reevees enyday jets giv chromatty 6 yer extendshon rap hem up 4 lyfe.!!!!!

Ashie62 Dec 30 2012 01:33 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

I turn on the Jets in the 3rd quarter down 14-9 and Sanchez loses a fumble on command.

Ashie62 Dec 30 2012 01:38 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

This time its a pick lol..

The Second Spitter Dec 30 2012 06:30 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

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Ashie62 Dec 30 2012 06:36 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

Tony Sparano fired per espn.

Ashie62 Dec 30 2012 06:37 PM Re: Jets Suck 2012

The Second Spitter wrote: i no agerre on you assie62 bufellow kwalati oppozishon..... ry fizzputrik leeg mvp imo. Smoking that meth again?