Mar 28 2012 05:05 AM
Welcome to the new season........
..... in stunning prime-time!
Mariners up 1-0 , mid of the 4th.
Felix the Cat pitching a gem.
Ichiro 2-2 -- become the all-time Mariners hit leader.
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Out of Continent Scoreboard
| The Second Spitter Mar 28 2012 05:05 AM |
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Welcome to the new season........
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| Ceetar Mar 28 2012 05:48 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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and not freaking on TV. how lame and un-american is that? Gonna gameday Audio on the way to work in the car via my phone for my fix.
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| G-Fafif Mar 28 2012 05:54 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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9 AM tape delay on MLB Network...because the kind of people who would be salivating for this live shouldn't be superserved by a network presumably designed to superserve them.
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| Ceetar Mar 28 2012 06:00 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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That is so shortsighted it's not even funny.
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| The Second Spitter Mar 28 2012 06:25 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Jeezus, it's live on tv here.
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| metirish Mar 28 2012 06:32 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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really fucking lame indeed......
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| duan Mar 28 2012 06:33 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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and live on demand here :) in a different continent again.
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| metirish Mar 28 2012 06:36 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Ha!, you and how many others throughout Ireland are watching I wonder.
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| The Second Spitter Mar 28 2012 06:41 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Attendance 45,000 (most of them probably on Soma judging by the lack of noise).
Clearly the Office of the Commissioner of Major League Baseball no longer believes it viable to market baseball to Americans.
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| duan Mar 28 2012 06:48 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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well i have it in the background in work rather then anything else.
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| Frayed Knot Mar 28 2012 06:48 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Even the 'Extra Innings' package - which usually starts both the first and second halves of the season with a free week of games for everyone - hasn't kicked in to pick up this game.
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| The Second Spitter Mar 28 2012 06:52 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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If only you guys knew what you were missing:
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| Edgy MD Mar 28 2012 07:11 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Interesting question. I don't think so. I'm trying to think if it would help.
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| Frayed Knot Mar 28 2012 07:55 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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M's get two in the top of the 11th to take the win and tack on further proof (as if anyone needed any) that 'Moneyball' doesn't work.
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| Ashie62 Mar 28 2012 08:33 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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That was exciting..
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| Edgy MD Mar 28 2012 11:14 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Mariners have a good chance to hold down first for a week at least.
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| duan Mar 28 2012 11:18 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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maybe not often, but they really don't restrict your movement at all and Ryan took a pretty good dink on his shins that they've have substantially reduced the pain of.
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| Edgy MD Mar 28 2012 11:21 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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I guess so, then. In my experience, it's not typically the pretty good dinks that get you at second, it's either you get out of the way or get a traumatic injury. Black or white.
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| Vic Sage Mar 28 2012 01:29 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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and so begins the first season in over a decade where i don't have a fantasy team.
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| G-Fafif Mar 28 2012 02:17 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Tomorrow's game gonna run live on MLBN at 5 AM ET.
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| Frayed Knot Mar 28 2012 02:19 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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What were they running this morning at 5AM, primary coverage?
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 28 2012 02:21 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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It was like yesterday's Baseball Tonight or whatever. Could not believe it.
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| Ceetar Mar 28 2012 02:55 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Apparently they got the message. That's something at least.
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| Fman99 Mar 28 2012 07:02 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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I watched the game... progress on CBS gameday ticker. Not the same. Fuck Bud Selig in his tele-hole.
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| MFS62 Mar 28 2012 09:14 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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In that sport, "through the wickets" isn't an error. Later
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| duan Mar 29 2012 05:23 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Probably right - in that it's something getting stuck somewhere or being twisted that's the problem, not the impact as such.
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| bmfc1 Mar 29 2012 05:40 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Verducci wrote a column citing all of the problems with opening in Japan including numbers which show that teams that play in these games start the season poorly. Nevertheless, Torre's boy said it was worth it because it sells the game. No Tom, it sucks. Today's game started at 2 AM for fans of those teams. How is that fair to them? How is the greater good of the game served by games starting so early? Bud should have listened to Mariners play-by-play guy Dave Sims--he is usually excitable but he (sitting in Seattle, calling the game from a monitor) sounded bored. The A's and M's now resume their exhibition season before really starting the season. Once again, Bud's "vision" for the game contradicts what is best for the fans of the teams but of course, we're irrelevant.
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 29 2012 06:41 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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They should've sent Dave Sims to Tokyo.
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| duan Mar 29 2012 06:48 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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well the play by play guys being on a monitor says more about the lack of a desire of the mariners television partner to pay then anything else.
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| Ceetar Mar 29 2012 06:58 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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they cheered Ichiro, and really aren't that invested in the other teams. It seems very star driven over there, at least as it pertains to USA sports. They should at least time these things so the market can watch them. If they'd played an afternoon game, say noon, that's 8pm Pacific time. too small sample size for Verducci's theory to work, not that that every stops him. and this won't disprove him, since the A's and Mariner's are projected to suck so losing games when they get back would be expected. I'm mostly indifferent to the idea. I like spreading baseball, but the execution seems suspect. I was thinking, I wonder how this would fly during the All-Star Break? Fly the team out Thursday morning, play a 3-game series S-M-W or hell, S-M-T with air times at US day time (you know, before the All-Star Game and the HR Derby) Schedule west coast games around the trip to minimize the travel time and make it part of the All-Star Celebration. There's enough players at the game that missing the reps from two teams wouldn't really be a big deal. Make it an Interleague game if you're really concerned, so it's 14-14 in the ASG.
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| Frayed Knot Mar 29 2012 07:22 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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The trouble with trying something like this in-season (as many of the non-baseball mediots are suggesting as the "solution") is the jet lag caused by the quick turn-around time (remember Mussina crying about such stuff the year the Yanx began their season there?). At least this way the two teams have nearly a week to get re-acclimated before diving back into the season. So if they're going to play games in Japan for all the marketing reasons they seek, this particular set-up, while hardly ideal, is probably the best.
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| Ceetar Mar 29 2012 07:38 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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There is nothing more repulsive then football mediots who so smugly think Football is the only sport worth caring about trying to 'fix' baseball.
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| Edgy MD Mar 29 2012 07:40 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Not for nothing, but it isn't baseball that we're spreading. Japan has been baseball-mad since the 1930s, probably earlier, in many ways to a degree that would shame us. What we're spreading is MLB's affiliated brands.
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 29 2012 07:46 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Excellent point. And as for jet lag, I think they're making more of it than necessary. I've flown to (and from) Europe many times, and I've been to Japan as well. Sure, you arrive exhausted, especially when flying east, but you go to sleep and the morning after your arrival, you're fine. It may (or may not) be different for the elderly, but I can't imagine that a young athlete would need five days to recover from jet lag. And returning from Asia is easy. Your first day back, you'll wake up about three hours earlier than usual, but after that, you're fine.
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| Ceetar Mar 29 2012 08:07 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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jet lag hits everyone differently though I do agree that it's not a big enough deal to do or not do something because of it. Some people barely notice, some people need days to recover. Farthest I've flown is Hawaii, 6 hours. It's the only time I've felt seriously jetlagged, and it lasted 2-3 days. Of course, there was an emotional aspect to that as well.
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| Edgy MD Mar 29 2012 08:10 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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$$
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| Ceetar Mar 29 2012 08:14 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Mega Million's half a billion!
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 29 2012 08:17 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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I was reading where the new planes Boeing is building can reduce jetlag by making the cabin more humid, or something.
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| Ceetar Mar 29 2012 08:31 AM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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interesting. I googled: [url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/travel/news/our-sneak-peek-at-the-dreamliner-plane-of-the-future/story-e6frezi0-1226196606099 They pressurize the cabin for 1800m instead of 2400m and apparently that makes all the difference. Also, you simply press a button and the windows dim. no manual shades. ooooh, aaah. futuristic. sounds cool though.
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| MFS62 Mar 29 2012 09:16 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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The local sports doofus on one of the CT stations introduced the game highlights by saying something like "We're trying to bring baseball to Japan". I came thisclose to calling the station and questioning his qualifications. Also - If they play these games in the US in July or August, about eleven fans show up - in either city. Later
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| Frayed Knot Mar 30 2012 01:27 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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MLB: we want to play reg season games in Europe
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| Ceetar Mar 30 2012 01:39 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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interesting. also interesting is a line about the first qualifying round for the WBC being in September in Germany. I'm going to be in Germany in September. hmm..
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 01:56 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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That, I think, would be a lot easier to pull off, jet-lag-wise, than Japan. A flight to Europe from the East Coast isn't that much longer than a flight from the West Coast to the East Coast, especially if you're only going to the UK. (Flying further, like to Rome or Vienna, would add a few hours to the trip.) The worst thing for me about flying to Europe is that every flight seems to be a red-eye. You arrive exhausted, and when you get to your hotel it's only about 9:30 or 10 a.m. local time and your room isn't going to be ready for at least an hour or two. MLB could have more pull with the hotels, and they could arrange a charter flight that would depart at a more reasonable time. And returning from Europe is very easy as far as jet lag goes. They could even do this in-season, I think. Have the two teams depart from the East Coast to London. Give them two days off on either end of the trip and they should be fine. Maybe fly Wednesday morning, play games on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, then fly home and resume playing in the U.S. on Wednesday. They could possibly even play on Tuesday.
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| Ceetar Mar 30 2012 02:06 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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you know what would help with the scheduling for some these international series? Doubleheaders! Instead of playing Saturday AND Sunday, play both on Saturday and give yourself an extra travel day.
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| Edgy MD Mar 30 2012 02:08 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Nobody takes Sunday off in baseball. It's $unday.
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2012 02:09 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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In England it would be £unday?
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| Ceetar Mar 30 2012 02:16 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Makes cents though doesn't it? Isn't that why they played DH on Sunday to begin with anyway? for Travel?
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| Frayed Knot Mar 30 2012 03:00 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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The problem with two days off at either end of a Euro-series is that it takes away four of the precious few off-days those teams have which in turn means you're bumping up against the mandate of no streaks of more than 19 w/o an off day and other related kinks. A pre-season season opening series - like the just concluded Ms-As deal - would take care of the off-day snafu but getting the weather to cooperate in March anywhere other than maybe Italy would be a problem.
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| The Second Spitter Mar 30 2012 03:39 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Yeah, this. The Super Rugby competition has teams from South Africa, Oz and NZ. That's a 14 hour difference. Soon it will expand into Argentina, in which case teams will cross every time-zone on the planet.
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| Ceetar Mar 30 2012 06:03 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Travel is wearying, sure. But then these teams are frequently leaving NY at like midnight-1 am and playing the next day in say St. Louis at 7pm. There's no way they're arriving at their hotel before 6-7am and even attempting a full nights sleeping after that and still getting to the park on time is iffy.
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| Frayed Knot Mar 30 2012 07:11 PM Re: Out of Continent Scoreboard |
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Saint Louee is one time zone and maybe two hours in the air.
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