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Ceetar
Apr 01 2012 03:11 PM

Looks like it's Jon Niese, not David Wright, getting a contract extension this Spring.

Not official yet, but Looks like the Mets are inking Niese to a 5 year deal. I believe that's two free agent years.

metirish
Apr 01 2012 03:21 PM
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Yeah, sure he is.

Frayed Knot
Apr 01 2012 03:36 PM
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Wait! I thought he just got rid of his extension?
Dude can't seem to make up his mind.

Edgy MD
Apr 01 2012 03:36 PM
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Multiple sources running with it.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 01 2012 03:49 PM
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Interesting...

I can't help but thinking that it's April 1.

Ceetar
Apr 01 2012 03:51 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Interesting...

I can't help but thinking that it's April 1.


Too many different sources seem to be reporting it. They can't even agree that they all don't have to tweet the lineup the Mets just tweeted, I don't see them organization a massive joke.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2012 03:57 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
They can't even agree that they all don't have to tweet the lineup the Mets just tweeted, I don't see them organization a massive joke.


Can anybody here translate this into English? A little help.

smg58
Apr 01 2012 03:57 PM
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Now if they said Sid Finch was getting an extension...

Ceetar
Apr 01 2012 04:00 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
They can't even agree that they all don't have to tweet the lineup the Mets just tweeted, I don't see them organization a massive joke.


Can anybody here translate this into English? A little help.


organizing not organization.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2012 05:46 PM
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If it's an April Fools gag, then the Post and the Times are both in on it.

Mets close to five-year contract with pitcher Niese

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/met ... z1qprF8DA3

Mets and Niese Are Said to Be Discussing Long-Term Deal

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/0 ... term-deal/

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. — The Mets have been in discussions about a long-term contract extension with the left-handed starter Jon Niese, according to a person with knowledge of the talks.

The parameters for a potential deal have not been formally agreed upon by the sides, the person said. The negotiations were first reported by ESPN New York.

Niese, 25, was picked by the Mets in the seventh round of the 2005 draft and would become eligible for free agency in 2015. He was 11-11 last season with a 4.40 earned run average.

Since the end of the 2010 season the Mets have had an aversion to long-term contracts, preferring to establish a foundation of flexibility. But the Mets’ owners last month settled their lawsuit with the trustee representing the victims of Bernard L. Madoff, agreeing to pay $162 million, and the discussions for a long-term extension with Niese could be the first tangible sign of the organization’s more positive financial outlook.

For Niese, a deal now could deprive him of a more valuable contract in the near future but at the same time provide financial stability while he is still a relatively unproven player.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 01 2012 06:55 PM
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The Wall Street Journal wrote:

Mets, Niese in Extension Talks

By BRIAN COSTA

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- The Mets are discussing a five-year contract extension with pitcher Jon Niese that would include team options for the 2017 and 2018 seasons, according to a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations.

Though the two sides are still haggling over the total value of the deal, the person said they are not far apart. And while a deal is not imminent, the person was optimistic that it would get done, perhaps even this week.

The deal being discussed is comparable to the one pitcher Derek Holland recently signed with the Texas Rangers. Holland signed a five-year, $28.5 million deal that includes club options for an additional two years. The value of Niese's contract will not be quite that high, the person said.

For the Mets, locking up Niese through at least 2016 would give them cost certainty with one of their best young players. The 25-year-old lefty is slated to become eligible for salary arbitration next winter. Without an extension, he would become eligible for free agency after the 2015 season.

By giving up the potential to earn even more money in the years ahead, Niese would give himself a significant degree of financial security.

"I think it's a great idea because he's still young and he still has a huge, huge upside," Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen said. "I think that would be a great thing for him and a great thing for the organization."

Mets general manager Sandy Alderson declined to comment. Niese's agent, Tom O'Connell, also declined to comment.

The deal being discussed would put Niese under contract longer than any other Mets player. The Mets don't have anyone signed beyond the 2013 season.

The team gauged the trade market for Niese over the winter, just to see if another team would make an overwhelming offer. But teams were unwilling to meet the Mets' asking price. Now, Niese appears poised to remain a Met for years to come.

In his second full major-league season, Niese went 11-11 with a 4.40 ERA in 2011. But advanced metrics suggest Niese pitched better than those mediocre numbers indicate.

Niese's fielding-independent pitching mark -- a statistic that measures performance based only on the factors pitchers can directly control -- was 3.36. That led all Mets pitchers and ranked 17th among National League pitchers with at least 150 innings pitched.

On Sunday, the Mets named Niese their No. 3 starter behind Johan Santana and R.A. Dickey. They view him as one of several young players with the potential for a breakout season.

"He'll be an All-Star," catcher Josh Thole said. "I really believe that. Just the reaction he gets from hitters and what he's got on the ball, his stuff, it's incredible."

The biggest question mark with Niese is his durability. He missed the last two months of the 2009 season with a torn hamstring tendon. He wore down considerably toward the end of 2010. And he missed the last month of the 2011 season with a strained intercostal muscle. He has never thrown more than 173 innings in a season.

But Niese, the Mets' seventh-round draft pick in 2005, has never had elbow or shoulder issues. And while his conditioning has come under scrutiny in the past, the Mets were pleased that he reported to camp 10 pounds lighter this spring.

"I think Jon Niese somewhere this winter became a man, a little bit more of a man, and less of a guy that throws a baseball," Warthen said. "We just need to watch him during the season. He has a tendency to put on a few pounds during the season. That's easy to do, the way these people feed him. So we have to make sure we keep an eye on his diet."

Frayed Knot
Apr 01 2012 07:14 PM
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In a way this doesn't surprise me in that I think - and I think they think - that Niese could be on the verge of becoming a very nice pitcher. He'll be arb-eligible after this season so the team would be looking to lock up some cost-certainty.

On the other hand I am surprised about the timing. Given that he's yet to go wire to wire in a year I thought they might wait one more year to see how this season turned out first in order to get a better gauge on how much he might stand to earn over the next few years.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2012 07:26 PM
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Makes sense the way I see it, especially the timing. I see Niese as a high ceiling, all-star caliber pitcher. But who nose? He's a lefty. But mainly, the Mets put the Madoff mess behind them. I'd guess that this deal would not have been in negotiations were the Mets on trial right now, as many of us thought they would be.

metirish
Apr 01 2012 07:27 PM
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Only the toes nose.....

what TV show?

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2012 07:27 PM
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Don't be such a wiseguy.

metirish
Apr 01 2012 07:32 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Don't be such a wiseguy.


brilliant

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 01 2012 08:17 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
On the other hand I am surprised about the timing. Given that he's yet to go wire to wire in a year I thought they might wait one more year to see how this season turned out first in order to get a better gauge on how much he might stand to earn over the next few years.


The Rays did the pre-mature thing with Moore this year. It's been a mixed bag of results with young pitchers and arb/FA buy-out deals (see: Brett Anderson, Josh Johnson, The Sinkerballer Formerly Known As Fausto Carmona, Trevor Cahill).

Frayed Knot
Apr 01 2012 08:24 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 01 2012 08:36 PM

Moore is also the the top pitching prospect in baseball right now; different situation than Niese.

And I don't mean to say that I mind them talking turkey with the hawk -- if you're going to do so with a arb or pre-arb pitcher, he's the one to do it with -- just thought they'd want to see a bit more before diving in is all.

Edgy MD
Apr 01 2012 08:34 PM
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Certainly is interesting. And it's exciting to see them banking on their opinion like this.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 01 2012 08:39 PM
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Good for Niese. At times last year he looked like the best pitcher in NYC but still aways away from a guy I'd bank 5 years on. As said above, nice to see the org demonstrate some conviction.

Edgy MD
Apr 02 2012 01:04 PM
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It's an interesting challenge to Pelfrey too.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 04 2012 02:20 PM
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Andy McCullough of the Star Ledger says the negotiations are over, and all that remains to make it official is the physical.

TAMPA, Fla. -- Mets starter Jon Niese has agreed to a five-year, $25.5 million extension, with team options for 2017 and 2018 that could push the total value to $46 million, according to a person with knowledge of the situation. The person requested anonymity because the deal was not official pending a physical.

Ceetar
Apr 04 2012 02:22 PM
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sounds good to me.

Edgy MD
Apr 04 2012 02:31 PM
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When I’m near you Niese, I get an extension!
And I don’t mean Alexander Graham Bell’s invention!

Frayed Knot
Apr 04 2012 03:14 PM
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TAMPA, Fla. -- Mets starter Jon Niese has agreed to a five-year, $25.5 million extension, with team options for 2017 and 2018 that could push the total value to $46 million ... the deal was not official pending a physical.


Team Doctors to Jeff & Fred: "Uh, we recommend against doing this deal because it seems that the patient's nose has shrunk since his last check-up. We're not quite sure what this means but it could indicate something serious."