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Joey Votto

Edgy MD Apr 02 2012 06:18 PM

Ten years, $225 million dollars. Contract like that deserves it's own thread. Yikey. You can buy a chunk of the Mets with money like that. Get your own business cards and a piece of Mr. Met and everything.

Frayed Knot Apr 02 2012 06:21 PM Re: Joey Votto

Nice target for Ike to shoot at. Also Matt Cain - was due to be a FA this year and is currently the longest tenured Gigante - snags the largest contract ever for a RH pitcher: 5/$112 + options.

metirish Apr 02 2012 06:29 PM Re: Joey Votto

Recession my arse, never came to baseball . Votto is a fine player but Christ. But, good for the Reds and their fans.

Edgy MD Apr 02 2012 08:10 PM Re: Joey Votto

Frayed Knot wrote: Nice target for Ike to shoot at. Sugarpants comes first, though. I don't reckon the recession is like to come to baseball as long as they have a legal monopoly.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 02 2012 09:23 PM Re: Joey Votto

Votto's younger than Wright, and his last two years beat the pants off anything Wright's put out in the last five years. He's also a really good defensive first baseman, where Wright is... well, the nicest way I can put it is that he's got two Gold Gloves, and occasionally "really knows how to make a play." Still... it's kinda weird when teams give up $20 million-plus in a non-open-market-type situation.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 02 2012 09:25 PM Re: Joey Votto

Votto is kinda crazy, I guess, but I'd rather have him than Prince or Braun at similar $$. Cain's contract is kinda nuts, though. Largest contract for a RH pitcher and he's not even the best RH pitcher on his team. 'Cha-ching, bitches' - Tim Lincecum, today.

MFS62 Apr 02 2012 09:26 PM Re: Joey Votto

Irish said it all - "Good for the Reds and their fans." Later

Edgy MD Apr 02 2012 09:27 PM Re: Joey Votto

I wasn't likening them. Only saying that a contract like that moves the whole marketplace. And decisions on Wright are more pending, though not as pending as the current buzz might suggest.

smg58 Apr 03 2012 05:32 AM Re: Joey Votto

The Votto deal is massive, and he's not as young as people think -- he's older, in fact, than Prince Fielder. Like Fielder's contract (and Pujols' contract too, for that matter), the first half of it will look a lot better than the second half. The Cain deal is a bit more surprising, but his last three seasons have been excellent. He's also younger than Joey Votto, too. It won't hurt the Giants as long as he stays healthy.

Frayed Knot Apr 03 2012 06:07 AM Re: Joey Votto

Irish said it all - "Good for the Reds and their fans." Assuming, of course, that this doesn't put them behind the eight-ball for all future contracts of any size to the point where their future lineup consists of Votto and eight guys named Joe. It's like the Dodger sale price: great for the fans ... unless it turns out to be way too high a price and suddenly isn't so great. PS - Votto made his ML debut by K-ing against Guillermo Mota during a 6th inning PH appearance in a game the Mets won 11-7 on Sept 4 2007

Vic Sage Apr 03 2012 10:13 AM Re: Joey Votto

i don't think a contract that pays an MVP-type player an average of $22.5m/yr moves the market, with the top players still making in the $25+m/yr range. Votto is one of the handful of best players in baseball; a healthy, athletic player, age 28, with no history of injury or likely to be slowed by girth. He's a GG type 1bman; he won't need to be hidden or DHed. The contract doesn't take him into his 40s. And by the time he gets to that point of the deal where his salary will overtake his WAR, average compensation will have grown to the point where it won't be much of a difference. I think its a great deal for the Reds, him, and the fan base.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 03 2012 08:36 PM Re: Joey Votto

Vic Sage wrote: i don't think a contract that pays an MVP-type player an average of $22.5m/yr moves the market, with the top players still making in the $25+m/yr range. Point is, though... those guys made that on the open market. The Reds weren't bidding against anyone, and weren't under any pressure to do this (presumably); that's a whole lotta risk for a non-discount price. Votto's contract doesn't run through his age-40, but it does go through age-39, and though he seems like as sure a bet as one can make... hell, we might be driving Chinese flying cars by 2023, hoss.

Frayed Knot Apr 03 2012 08:45 PM Re: Joey Votto

The other kicker here is that this isn't just a ten-year deal, it's a ten-year extension being added onto the two years he still had remaining (at about $30mil combined) meaning that they're locked into him for an even dozen years starting at his age 28 season. Not sure that they had to go THAT high particularly seeing as how they weren't yet under the gun.