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Outfield: Next?


Adam Loewen 2 votes

Kirk Nieuwenhuis 13 votes

Valentino Pascucci 1 votes

Vinny Rottino 0 votes

Matt Tuiasosopo 2 votes

Corey Wimberly 0 votes

Jordany Valdespin 1 votes

Other (State your name) 1 votes

Edgy MD
Apr 05 2012 02:20 PM

Andres Torres has the only Met run of the season and he cashed it in on the way to what looks like the disabled list. Our number five hitter looked a little frozen in the headlights on his lone at-bat. And they're going to need him all the more now.

OE: Look at all those letters!

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 05 2012 02:23 PM
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That's a lot of lengthy surnames.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 05 2012 02:24 PM
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I suggested in the game thread they look at Justin Maxwell. He just got released by the MFYs because he couldn't beat out Andruw Jones for a job. He has some CF and division experience, 28 years old and a former high-ish draft pick, bats righty.

Edgy MD
Apr 05 2012 02:28 PM
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That's some good outside-the-box thinking, boy. Check "Other," if you will.

A righthanded guy, though, only doubles down on the pressure on Baxter. Not having your discerning eye for the waiver wire, I'm checking the Valdespin box. He's my adoptee, he's versatile, he could use the emotional boost of a brief callup, he can pinch-run, and he probably would've gotten his hacks in during that at-bat.

Loewen would seem to be the guy you're going for if you want more extra-basiness. I think versatility, aggressiveness, and contact could be more of an asset at this time.

The Second Spitter
Apr 05 2012 02:30 PM
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I don;t know who Matt Tuiasosopo is, but his name tells me there's an outside chance he could be related to The Rock.

Edgy MD
Apr 05 2012 02:33 PM
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Matt Tuiasosopo.

Edgy MD
Apr 05 2012 02:36 PM
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According to Rubin, Torres has told him directly that he's heading to the List.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2012 02:38 PM
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Am on #TeamMaxwell myself. Failing that, gimme all your Loewen... all your hair and whiffin' too.

Valadius
Apr 05 2012 02:39 PM
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Fuck it. Call up the football player.

Edgy MD
Apr 05 2012 02:45 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Am on #TeamMaxwell myself. Failing that, gimme all your Loewen... all your hair and whiffin' too.


You know, try and find a picture of Loewen where he doesn't look at least a little bit high.

vtmet
Apr 05 2012 03:16 PM
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Capt Kirk is the only choice that has experience playing Centerfield, appears ready to hit MLB pitching, and is already on the 40 man roster...IMO, any other move would be a bigger risk...gives Kirk a chance to get a short taste for the MLB experience & it wouldn't risk losing another guy off of the 40 man roster (we've already lost Stinson when he was removed from the 40 man roster)...

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 05 2012 03:29 PM
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Cubs are trying to move Marking Byrd. Interested?

metirish
Apr 05 2012 03:46 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Cubs are trying to move Marking Byrd. Interested?



He's a total bollox right or am I conflating him with someone else?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2012 03:47 PM
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For the minimum or, say, Schwinden? Sure. While I understand the appeal of controllable arms, I've never really understood the appeal of Schwinden in particular...least of all, Schwinden instead of ANOTHER cheap asset.

Tuiasasopo, people? Really?

Ceetar
Apr 05 2012 03:52 PM
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vtmet wrote:
Capt Kirk is the only choice that has experience playing Centerfield, appears ready to hit MLB pitching, and is already on the 40 man roster...IMO, any other move would be a bigger risk...gives Kirk a chance to get a short taste for the MLB experience & it wouldn't risk losing another guy off of the 40 man roster (we've already lost Stinson when he was removed from the 40 man roster)...


This is the easy answer, but I'm really not sure if it's the right one. I'm really not sure what the best answer is right now.

Kirk hasn't quite been back from his oblique long enough. I'd be skeptical even if he was alrady a major leaguer, but to rush him into real games might be a tad hasty. But, he's playing tonight right for Buffalo?

Frayed Knot
Apr 05 2012 05:13 PM
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Maxwell was so far off my radar I had to go look him up.
Very thin ML resume where he hasn't played since briefly in 2010.
Minor league numbers don't look so bad but, of course, that's the minor leagues.
Maybe they should into picking him up but that doesn't mean you throw him into the NY lineup right away.

Baxter was Terry's only LF bat off the bench today and that will be the case on most days unless Turner is starting for Murphy or something goofy like that. That all points to Loewen as the likely beneficiary of the Torres injury unless they really want a 'true' CF out there instead of Hairston and think Dekker and/or Nieuwenhuis are ready to handle a month or more on a more or less everyday basis.

I think it'll be Loewen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 05 2012 07:02 PM
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Maxwell had a torn labrim and missed most of last year I was only aware of him because he was getting his name in the paper for having a good spring for the mfys. Byrd males something like 6 mills.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2012 07:50 PM
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Maxwell, IIRC (and that ain't no sure thing, granted), looked more than half-decent in center for the Nats; what scant defensive stat evidence there is seems to indicate that he's solid-to-good there and in RF. He's also got isolated-power numbers in the low .200s, nice speed, and though he strikes out a LOT (30% of the time), he also walks far more than virtually all of our other candidates.

Loewen has nothing but one strong AAA season... in the stat-inflated PCL; he also doesn't appear to have quite the same baserunning ability that Maxwell does, and is much iffier in the glove department. I want to see more from him, and a solid month more of healthy, improving performance from Kirk, before I bring either of them to Flushing.

I'm not saying Maxwell's a starter-- I'm saying he's a really interesting cheap bench/spot-start/defensive-replacement option with pop, a strong record against lefties, and-- at 28-- more than a puncher's chance of post-hype-prospect-y mild improvement.

Fman99
Apr 05 2012 08:04 PM
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vtmet wrote:
Capt Kirk is the only choice that has experience playing Centerfield, appears ready to hit MLB pitching, and is already on the 40 man roster...IMO, any other move would be a bigger risk...gives Kirk a chance to get a short taste for the MLB experience & it wouldn't risk losing another guy off of the 40 man roster (we've already lost Stinson when he was removed from the 40 man roster)...


Sounds reasonable, I'm buying. I don't really have a horse in this race.

Edgy MD
Apr 05 2012 09:23 PM
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I'm just tickled that there's 15 folks voting in this poll. Let's face it, the CPF has been deader than Albany on a Tuesday night.

I think Valdespin has shown as much readiness for the bigs. I'd like to see Nieuwenhuis get some work at AAA. He was only healthy enough to get into 53 games last year.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2012 09:41 PM
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Source: Beam Him Up To The Bigs.

The Second Spitter
Apr 05 2012 09:51 PM
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Source: Beam Him Up To The Bigs.


So how long do you think it's gonna take for the James T. Kirk puns to die.....cos I;m not sure I can live in a world where I'm exposed to them on a daily basis.

Ceetar
Apr 05 2012 10:00 PM
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Source: Beam Him Up To The Bigs.


So how long do you think it's gonna take for the James T. Kirk puns to die.....cos I;m not sure I can live in a world where I'm exposed to them on a daily basis.


I'm hoping never..

just hope he doesn't re-injure himself pushing too hard.

duan
Apr 06 2012 06:26 AM
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i've got a Benny Agyiani style surge in my head for Kirk

"10 homers in his first 73 at-bats. "

MFS62
Apr 06 2012 07:27 AM
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Source: Beam Him Up To The Bigs.


So how long do you think it's gonna take for the James T. Kirk puns to die.....cos I;m not sure I can live in a world where I'm exposed to them on a daily basis.

That's why I refer to him as the "Dutch Treat" , because he makes opponents pay.

Later

Nymr83
Apr 06 2012 08:01 AM
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Source: Beam Him Up To The Bigs.


So how long do you think it's gonna take for the James T. Kirk puns to die.....cos I;m not sure I can live in a world where I'm exposed to them on a daily basis.


I'm hoping never..

just hope he doesn't re-injure himself pushing too hard.


Ditto on both counts, Live Long and Prosper, Star Trek jokes!

Frayed Knot
Apr 06 2012 11:26 AM
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Source: Beam Him Up To The Bigs.


So how long do you think it's gonna take for the James T. Kirk puns to die.....cos I;m not sure I can live in a world where I'm exposed to them on a daily basis.

That's why I refer to him as the "Dutch Treat" , because he makes opponents pay.



I like that one.

Fman99
Apr 07 2012 06:16 PM
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Mr. Spock, set phasers to "Awesome."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 07 2012 06:30 PM
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I'm thinking... close-and-late walkup music?

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Edgy MD
Apr 09 2012 02:26 PM
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Maxwell claimed by the Astros.

metsguyinmichigan
Apr 09 2012 02:34 PM
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Speaking of getting claimed by the Astros, did F-Mart go north -- well, west -- with the club?

Ceetar
Apr 09 2012 02:37 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Speaking of getting claimed by the Astros, did F-Mart go north -- well, west -- with the club?


no, but he's 6/16 in the minors with a HR, 2 double and a walk.

Edgy MD
Apr 09 2012 02:37 PM
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No, Fernando is currently playing left field for the Oklahoma City RedHawks. But he's hitting the ball well in his first four games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 17 2012 10:55 AM
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So let's say just for the sake of argument that Torres is eligible to come off the DL this weekend.

Would he be any better a leadoff man than Tejada?
Any better a power threat or gloveman than Nieuwenhuis?

How would you solve this "good problem to have"?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2012 11:04 AM
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Keep Nieuwenhuis. Send Baxter down. Let Kirk play as often as possible, sometimes causing Bay to sit, sometimes Torres. Of course, if Nieuwenhuis starts to show that he doesn't belong, that plan can change.

TransMonk
Apr 17 2012 11:05 AM
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I don't move Tejada from the leadoff position. Ruben may need to be removed from that spot later in the season if he falters, but if it ain't broke...

I honestly think with the way the team is playing, Torres may have to be useful off the bench as a PH and PR, but I don't fiddle with the lineup until there's a reason to make a change.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 17 2012 11:14 AM
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I'd Wally Pipp him. He's half a scrub and I didn't give a flying fuck when he limped off the field and onto the DL on opening day. I forgot he even exists with Tejada playing like an all-star and the Mets on pace to win 112 games. That this guy's even in the discussion for leadoff hitter is all depressing as hell. Let the current starters play themselves out of the lineup.

Ceetar
Apr 17 2012 11:38 AM
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Well obviously Torres would have to produce, but I'd start him out as the 4th OF right now. RF defensive replacement and occasionally starting for the other two.

I'd probably bat him down in the order in that way, since Collins doesn't seem to like to disrupt the batting order. I might consider a Torres-Tejada-Wright-Ike-Bay-Duda-Murphy-Thole line up though. Or Torres-Tejada-Ike-Wright-Duda-Murphy-Bay?

he's not coming back this weekend though, so we've got probably at least twice as much data to work with when he is. If no outfielders are struggling, they can have him pitch middle relief for all it matters because we're probably winning.

Edgy MD
Apr 17 2012 11:43 AM
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Would you see more utility in Torres coming off the bench than in Baxter?

Ceetar
Apr 17 2012 11:45 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Would you see more utility in Torres coming off the bench than in Baxter?


I think so. switch-hitter, better defense, more experience in CF.

On the other hand, Baxter's the only other lefty bat and maybe could provide some pinch-hitting pop, it's hard to tell with him as he doesn't exactly have a long major league resume.

Edgy MD
Apr 17 2012 11:58 AM
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Torres bats both ways, so I don't see how Baxter's leftiness gives him an edge.

Ceetar
Apr 17 2012 12:05 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Torres bats both ways, so I don't see how Baxter's leftiness gives him an edge.


well, maybe he's better at being a lefty than Torres who's splitting the baby?

I dunno, I guess it depends as it always has, if we're getting Torres more from 2010 than 2011.

I don't see how it's anyone but Andres, Kirk, or Mike, so I suspect I'd axe Mike as the 25th guy and not exactly showing himself to be indispensable.

Edgy MD
Apr 17 2012 12:19 PM
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Bax has options, right?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2012 12:24 PM
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I think so. I know that Torres will soon be eligible to be reinstated (by this weekend, I suppose) but is he close to being ready? I don't recall seeing any status updates on him. I suspect that many fans are as indifferent about it as I am.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2012 12:43 PM
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Looks like it will be at least a couple of more weeks. This was posted a little after midnight last night:


Torres progressing cautiously after calf injury
By Anthony DiComo / MLB.com | 04/17/12 12:15 AM ET

ATLANTA -- The Mets continue to proceed cautiously with injured outfielder Andres Torres, who has not attempted to run since straining his left calf on Opening Day.

"He's getting close," assistant general manager John Ricco said. "He's getting antsy. But we're really trying, based on the Spring Training experience, to hold him back."

Ricco's comments were in reference to the final week of spring, when Torres battled back from an identical calf injury to break camp with the team. But he re-injured the muscle on Opening Day, and has not made much progress since.

Working out Monday at the team's Spring Training complex in Port St. Lucie, Fla., Torres hit off a tee, took soft-toss swings and played catch, and is scheduled to perform the same routine on Tuesday. A return before May seems unlikely.

Without him, the Mets have been proceeding with shortstop Ruben Tejada as their leadoff hitter. But Tejada has cooled somewhat after a torrid start, prompting manager Terry Collins to pencil his shortstop in for an off-day on Thursday.

"We're trying to make sure that we keep our guys as fresh as we can," Collins said.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 17 2012 12:55 PM
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Yeah, the question was a hypothetical from the start.

metsmarathon
Apr 17 2012 12:59 PM
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friggin' calf injuries.

Frayed Knot
Apr 18 2012 01:22 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
So let's say just for the sake of argument that Torres is eligible to come off the DL this weekend.

Would he be any better a leadoff man than Tejada?
Any better a power threat or gloveman than Nieuwenhuis?

How would you solve this "good problem to have"?


One idea would be to install Torres in CF and slide Nieuwenhuis over to RF cuz it's not like Duda is burning things up to the point where he should be considered an untouchable incumbent.
Would help the overall 'D' too.

Ashie62
Apr 18 2012 02:23 PM
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Maybe Torres can be rehabbed until October.

G-Fafif
Apr 18 2012 02:30 PM
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Torres hasn't exactly been Wally Pipped. More like Wally Pi'd. Wasn't in the lineup long enough for the whole Pipp.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2012 02:38 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Maybe Torres can be rehabbed until October.


Seeing as how this outfield has been far from glorious without him, going .248 / .312 / .440 // .751, with a golem on defense in right, and far-from-flawless play in left and center, he's welcome back as soon as he is ready.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 18 2012 06:08 PM
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Between Tejada hitting like Angel Berroa's back-up and the Mets losing three out of four, all ugly, I can't wait for Torres to get back. Vamonos! There's a pennant to be won.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2012 09:03 PM
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Why do I get the feeling "hits like Angel Berroa's backup" is going to be a baseball expression that lasts into perpetuity?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2012 10:42 AM
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Andy McCullough of the Star-Ledger weighs in on this topic.


Mets ponder rookie outfielder Kirk Nieuwenhuis' options after strong start
Published: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 9:00 AM
Updated: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 10:01 AM
Andy McCullough/The Star-Ledger


ATLANTA -- The best person to provide the necessary context on Mets rookie Kirk Nieuwenhuis’ high-flying start would be, of course, Kirk Nieuwenhuis.

"It’s been a week and a half, two weeks," he said after cracking three hits and scoring three runs in Wednesday's 14-6 loss to Atlanta. "It’s pretty early. You’ve got to put it all in perspective, keep your head down."

Through 11 games, Nieuwenhuis is batting an eye-popping .375/.444/.531. He contributed a highlight-reel catch in Philadelphia over the weekend. He’s 24, a well-regarded prospect in the Mets system, and a player considered a potential cog in the team’s future.

Of course, Nieuwenhuis does not profile as a future superstar. Two years ago, he hit .225/.295/.358 in 30 games at Triple-A Buffalo. He played in just 53 games last season due to shoulder surgery (though he did punch up a .908 OPS for the Bisons with a career-best .403 OBP).

So what, then, do the Mets do with him when Andres Torres’ strained calf heals?

One sensible option: Use Torres as a fourth outfielder.

One popular option with the fanbase: Use Nieuwenhuis as platoon player with Jason Bay in left field.

The most likely option: Torres reclaims his job. Bay’s playing time stays the same. And Nieuwenhuis goes back to the International League for the time being.

To address these scenarios in order: Torres would have value as a bench batter. His speed is an asset as a pinch-runner. But he plays an excellent center field, and manager Terry Collins would like more speed in the lineup. Plus, he’s played one game. One. Collins, one figures, would be unlikely to take a veteran’s job away after such a brief stint. Unless, of course, Nieuwenhuis keeps getting on base 44 percent of the time.

The next option: Taking away Bay’s playing time would help defuse his $17 million option for 2014, which vests if he receives either 500 plate appearances in both 2012 and 2013 or 600 PA in 2013. Because there is so much time between now and the end of 2013, the team isn’t confronted with a ticking vesting-option-time-bomb – as they were last summer with closer Francisco Rodriguez.

When I spoke with one team insider on the eve of the season, the official laughed off any immediate plans to take playing time away from Bay. Bay has a .717 OPS through 11 games. That’s nothing to write home about – but it is 18 points higher than his career-low OPS in 2011. Bay walked twice and went 1-for-3 on Sunday. He’s homered twice. This is progress, albeit in small steps.

Of course, making sweeping statements about Jason Bay based on 11 games is as foolish as . . . making sweeping statements about Kirk Nieuwenhuis based on 11 games. That’s why the most likely option is the last one, in which the team upholds the status quo, and sends Nieuwenhuis down.

Don’t worry. If he departs, he’ll come back.


Of course, the sweeping statements about Jason Bay cover much more than 11 games.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2012 11:03 AM
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Sure, but we all have a backstory. And they all do too.

The disappointing thing is Baxter's name never comes up in the article. I never understand why there's ever a conflict about playing time between Outfielder X and Outfielder Y when one of them comes off the disabled list and the other has more or less been getting the job done. There are three outfield positions and first base. If you have five candidates for those roles, good, here's surely enough at-bats for everybody that deserves them and fewer for the people who, along the way, show themselves to deserve them less.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2012 11:05 AM
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The thing is, it Baxter were to go to Buffalo and Nieuwenhuis were to stay with the Mets, I'd want to see Kirk getting more playing time than Baxter has. If he's to stay, he'll have to steal playing time from somebody, otherwise he's better off in Buffalo.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2012 11:18 AM
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Sure, and as I said, with four roles to fill, there's plenty of time for everybody. If they all suggest some equal value, then they all can play 80% of the time.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2012 11:21 AM
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McCullough also fails to even mention Lucas [9-for-46 w/15 Ks] Duda as one of the players in the mix.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2012 11:22 AM
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Day1BLFCFRF
1DavisBayTorresDuda
2DudaBayTorresNieuwenhuis
3DavisNieuwenhuisTorresDuda
4DavisBayNieuwenhuisDuda
5DavisBayTorresNieuwenhuis
Day1BLFCFRF
6DavisBayTorresDuda
7DudaBayTorresNieuwenhuis
8DavisNieuwenhuisTorresDuda
9DavisBayNieuwenhuisDuda
10DavisBayTorresNieuwenhuis


Play four days in five. Throw some occasional time to Hairston if you're feeling creaky. Everybody is rested through the year. Win a championship. Fend off adoring women.

metsmarathon
Apr 19 2012 11:26 AM
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yeah, i don't know why that's so conceptually difficult...

HahnSolo
Apr 19 2012 11:27 AM
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Interesting that McCullough doesn't even consider the possibility that Duda could lose some ABs.

HahnSolo
Apr 19 2012 11:28 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Day1BLFCFRF
1DavisBayTorresDuda
2DudaBayTorresNieuwenhuis
3DavisNieuwenhuisTorresDuda
4DavisBayNieuwenhuisDuda
5DavisBayTorresNieuwenhuis
Day1BLFCFRF
6DavisBayTorresDuda
7DudaBayTorresNieuwenhuis
8DavisNieuwenhuisTorresDuda
9DavisBayNieuwenhuisDuda
10DavisBayTorresNieuwenhuis


Play four days in five. Throw some occasional time to Hairston if you're feeling creaky. Everybody is rested through the year. Win a championship. Fend off adoring women.


Didn't that late-80s Roger Craig Giants do something like that? Brett Butler, Jeffrey Leonard, Mike Aldrete, and ???? Or is that just a figment of my faulty memory?

TransMonk
Apr 19 2012 11:29 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Fend off adoring women.

Looks like the hardest part of the proposed rotation. Edgy for manager!

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2012 11:31 AM
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I think many teams have done something like that. They just don't acknowledge it as such, and treat it as a weakness that they don't have a more set lineup. Even as it's working, the manager will be feeling pressure to commit to an explicit group.

Ceetar
Apr 19 2012 11:33 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
Interesting that McCullough doesn't even consider the possibility that Duda could lose some ABs.


Probably because they're both lefties, but the picture will be much clearer in a couple of weeks.

Duda started slowly in both of his previous call ups. slow starter? Maybe he starts mashing soon.

But i Nieuwenhuis continues to play like he's a good major leaguer, he'll stay in the majors. Torres barely qualifies as a 'veteran' except on age, and the job's only been his for 5 innings. I expect Collins to want to see Nieuwenhuis stay if he continues to see Nieuwenhuis playing well. I think the "status quo" is Kirk, not Andres.

Not going to slot Young into the rotation immediately because he was there last year and he's returning from injury and Gee is just holding his place.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 19 2012 11:53 AM
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And if you don't want Duda to lose too many ABs, use him at first during Ike's Unpleasant Valley Sundays.

Efgy for manager, indeed.

Edgy MD
Jun 02 2012 09:33 PM
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So, we need another outfielder --- or at least outfielder type --- to fill Baxter's spot, at least until Bay returns.

Ceetar
Jun 02 2012 09:48 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
So, we need another outfielder --- or at least outfielder type --- to fill Baxter's spot, at least until Bay returns.


Rottino's been playing there, so he can be the 5th OF guy right?

I don't know if that's "Ideal" but Bay DH'd today so that's at least a step down the path towards recovery. 10 days maybe? if he can start playing the field soon..

Edgy MD
Jun 02 2012 09:59 PM
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Well, we need to call up somebody. Preferably a lefty stick. But with Loewen disabled also, there are no obvious choices.

Crazy thought that Den Dekker gets the call from AA.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 02 2012 11:15 PM
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Oh, I'm getting a fever. And the only prescription is more speed, defense, and surprising power from a 24-year-old who can contribute immediately, and make catches like Baxter's without hurting hisself.

Or, failing that, Fred Lewis? (.297/.348/.461 over 137 PA, .330/.378/.560 against righties, decent corner defense and speed.)

Edgy MD
Jun 03 2012 06:02 AM
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Yeah, what we're really missing --- but it doesn't show when you're getting comfortable complete game shutouts from your pitchers --- is a lefty bat of the bench, where we're left with Valdy and his .100 batting average. We can try and live with that and go with righties like Hairston and Rotttino (and Nieuie and Murphy and Torres and Davis when they might be available), but it's not like the problem is going to go away much when Bay comes back.