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IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 09:55 AM

1) Kirk Nieuwenhuis, CF 2) Daniel Murphy, 2B 3) David Wright, 3B 4) Ike Davis, 1B 5) Jason Bay, LF 6) Lucas Duda, RF 7) Josh Thole, C 8) Ruben Tejada, SS 9) Mike Pelfrey, RHP And the enemy 1) Angel Pagan, CF 2) Melky Cabrera, LF 3) Pablo Sandoval, 3B 4) Buster Posey, C 5) Aubrey Huff, 1B 6) Nate Schierholtz, RF 7) Emmanuel Burriss, 2B 8) Brandon Crawford, SS 9) Ryan Vogelsong, LHP

Fman99 Apr 21 2012 11:01 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Not on FIOS TV in Syracuse. Fucking wankers. I'll take a nap and catch the end on my iPhone.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2012 11:39 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Bay's not sitting out because of his baby blues? After he weakly grounded out trying to pull a 3-1 middle-out meatball, I'm not so sure he shouldn't have.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2012 11:51 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

2 out/nobody on = Pelf scoring position

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 11:57 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Vogelsong ain't much..Lets go!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 12:15 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Ike looks just awful.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 12:19 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

What the hell happened to Ike--a delayed reaction to the tropical fever? He was great in ST and as soon as the season started, he looked like he was trying to put up enough numbers to make up for last year.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2012 12:21 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 21 2012 12:32 PM

Not Much has a two-hit shutout with 7 Ks through 4.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 12:31 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Nothing, except for Murph's two hits, have left the infield so far. All Ks and GOs otherwise.

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 21 2012 12:33 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Little something going now. Let's push one across.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2012 12:36 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Bunting with no outs and a man on first. Bunting with one out and a man on first. Bunting with first and second and nobody out. All day, AY day. Bunting with the winning run on third and one out? Not a fucking chance. Ugh. At least they're getting better at doing it.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 12:37 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Infield RBI ground-outs that could have been - and probably should have been - a DP is what passes as a rally these days.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 12:40 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Anytime you click over to a Nationals game in progress this season I think there's about an 80% chance that'll either be a scoreless tie or maybe 1-0. Currently the Nats & Fish are scoreless in the 6th as Strasburg & Anibal Sanchez hook up.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 12:50 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Two outfield outs that inning. We're actually making progress.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 21 2012 01:18 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

I want Pelfrey to pitch the ninth.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 01:26 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

jesus fuck, terry

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 01:27 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Ahhh, we didn't need any insurance runs anyway.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 01:29 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

The guy Ike tagged on the pick-off attempt a half-inning earlier looked out-er than Ike did ... but still, way to blow a big inning possibility guys.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 01:33 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Do the dogs in the outfield count as attendance? One out.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 01:33 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Sometimes managers feel like they have to do something to show that they're there, even when things are going well without them.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 01:35 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Come on douchenozzle

metsguyinmichigan Apr 21 2012 01:35 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Should have left Pelfrey in.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 01:37 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

As someone who really dislikes Pelfrey, I "bravo" to him.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 01:37 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 01:38 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Should have left Pelfrey in. Ya think? Now its' Byrdak...Collins is out of his gourd today.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 01:38 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Very Good..

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 21 2012 01:39 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Frankie is shaky. Pulling the closer. Terry wants a W. If he wants it that badly, he should have left Pelf out there. Not a fan but he pitched very well today.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 01:39 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Well, unless Pelfrey said he was spent, bad on Terry for yanking him - although good on him for not blindly sticking with Frank-Frank.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 01:39 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

He should have left Pelfrey in to start the inning to see what happens. He had (HAD!) a three run cushion.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 21 2012 01:41 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

I think radio said Pelf had thrown 102 pitches, and got through the eighth pretty easily.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 01:42 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Terry is inserting himself into the game and trying too damn hard.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 21 2012 01:43 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

That's two!

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 01:47 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

C'mon Neck Tatts.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 01:47 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Just as I drew it up!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2012 01:48 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

bmfc1 wrote: He should have left Pelfrey in to start the inning to see what happens. He had (HAD!) a three run cushion. Well, y'know, Terry had to figure that since Francisco had such a nice-and-easy inning last night, he'd breeze through today.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 01:48 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Only the Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 01:48 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

f these guys

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 01:49 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Just as I drew it up! Terry Douchenoozle Collins.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 01:49 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

F U Castillo.

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 21 2012 01:50 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

What a fucking joke. A nice bit of over-managing.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 21 2012 01:51 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

In-freaking-credible.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 01:52 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Like I said earlier. Frayed Knot wrote: Ahhh, we didn't need any insurance runs anyway.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 21 2012 01:55 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Ike and David's baserunning mistakes sure came back to haunt.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 01:57 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

You know who's pissed? My wife. I told her I'd take her to see Hunger Games at 4:10. Maybe the 5:40.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2012 01:57 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Is Aubrey Huff playing second? He DOES that?

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 21 2012 01:59 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Thanks, terry. This says it all.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 01:59 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Earl Weaver was a great manager..the others? not so much.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 02:00 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

I hope someone makes a .gif of Terry's reaction.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 02:06 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Cue Kirk.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 21 2012 02:06 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Loaded with one out!

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 02:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Pelfrey really really got fucked.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2012 02:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

What a silly fucking game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 02:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Most shameful Mets win since that 20-inning debacle.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 02:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

books

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 02:08 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Can't wait to hear Terry. I hope he owns it.

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 21 2012 02:08 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Nice slide into home.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2012 02:08 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

How dare those American League snobs make fun of the quality of play in the National League?

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 21 2012 02:09 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

No happy recap. How about, "Meh."

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 02:10 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

UGLIEST WIN OF THE YEAR Remember Duda's walk + slide in your Schaefer points.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 02:11 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

PiggiesTomatoes wrote: No happy recap. How about, "Meh." Gary or Howie should use that one for ugly wins. "... And we'll be right back with the MEH recap right after this"

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 21 2012 02:13 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Is Aubrey Huff playing second? He DOES that? Nice call, LWFS.

Ceetar Apr 21 2012 02:14 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Mets may not be very good defensively, but it's not like most teams are very good at it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 02:19 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Ceetar wrote: Mets may not be very good defensively, but it's not like most teams are very good at it. uh, compared to the Mets they are.

Ceetar Apr 21 2012 02:25 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Mets may not be very good defensively, but it's not like most teams are very good at it. uh, compared to the Mets they are. I dunno, watching the teams we've watched so far? I wouldn't automatically give anyone but the Phillies an automatic edge. And they're maybe better because they're missing Howard.

themetfairy Apr 21 2012 02:44 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Fugly wins trump noble losses. I'll take it.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 21 2012 06:58 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

The one move I really liked was Terry pulling Francisco before the lead was lost. In recent years, that has become something of a taboo for some bizarre reason. The closer never seems to leave the game before the lead is completely blown. The Giants announcers even raised their eyebrows at that. (I didn't see their eyebrows, but I heard them.)

Ceetar Apr 21 2012 07:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The one move I really liked was Terry pulling Francisco before the lead was lost. In recent years, that has become something of a taboo for some bizarre reason. The closer never seems to leave the game before the lead is completely blown. The Giants announcers even raised their eyebrows at that. (I didn't see their eyebrows, but I heard them.) Terry, at least this is the way I saw it, was annoyed that he started giving up hits. He seemed to infer that he's still "the closer" but it sounded like he wanted to put Pelfrey back out there, but getting Francisco 'back on the horse' was important, and Francisco rolled out the "not getting enough work" excuse so that played in as well. The vibe I got from Terry about it was that he'll try to get him the work, and he knows he'l be upset he was pulled, but he has to perform to get work. But maybe I'm just hearing what I want to hear.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 08:37 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The one move I really liked was Terry pulling Francisco before the lead was lost. In recent years, that has become something of a taboo for some bizarre reason. The closer never seems to leave the game before the lead is completely blown. The Giants announcers even raised their eyebrows at that. (I didn't see their eyebrows, but I heard them.) Not sure why the SFG announcers would be raising their eye-brows, Bochy did essentially the same thing the night before, swapping out his closer for the lefty-specialist (who proceeded to blow the lead) and all after just one batter who got on via an infield single! Only difference is that Casilla is merely the recently named replacement closer (Romo the set-up man was passed over and left in his supporting role when Wilson got hurt) rather than the anointed 'proven closer' guy.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2012 09:37 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Ceetar wrote: Terry, at least this is the way I saw it, was annoyed that he started giving up hits. Well, sure. Ceetar wrote: He seemed to infer that he's still "the closer"... He inferred it? From whom? He decides who is closer. ...but it sounded like he wanted to put Pelfrey back out there, but getting Francisco 'back on the horse' was important, and Francisco rolled out the "not getting enough work" excuse so that played in as well. I'm sorry. I don't understand any of this. The vibe I got from Terry about it was that he'll try to get him the work, and he knows he'l be upset he was pulled, but he has to perform to get work. But maybe I'm just hearing what I want to hear. Francisco? Pelfrey? I think it's clear Francisco is "still the closer." That has nothing to do with what Grimm was saying. He's saying that him being the "closer," in this situation, did not preclude Collins from lifting him while the save was still available to him. And that's awesome.

Gwreck Apr 21 2012 10:31 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

I read this IGT and watched highlights on SNY. I am still left wondering -- why exactly was Aubrey Huff was playing second base?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 22 2012 12:30 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

Belt subbed in for Crawford, and Theriot was apparently indisposed.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2012 05:24 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

With benches shorter and pitching changes more frequent, teams who fall behind tend to empty their benches pretty completely by the ninth. If they happen to surprise themselves by catching up by then, the defensive options become kind of funky.

bmfc1 Apr 22 2012 01:45 PM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

bmfc1 wrote: I hope someone makes a .gif of Terry's reaction. [url]http://gif.mocksession.com/2012/04/terry-collins/

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2012 07:59 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

A brief look at the tribulations of Aubrey Huff at 2nd base during Saturday's game along with BP's (not altogether serious) take on how the Giants may have been better off just leaving him where he's more comfortable while leaving 2nd unoccupied.

bmfc1 Apr 23 2012 11:23 AM Re: IGT 4/21/12 -- Giants @ Mets 1:10 PM

That was excellent--thanks for posting FK.