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Humber is Perfect and Red Sox blow lead (OoTS - 4/21/12)

Valadius Apr 21 2012 04:26 PM

Phil Humber. Perfect game.

Ceetar Apr 21 2012 04:33 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Awesome. Have former Mets(prospects) thrown more no-hitters/perfect games than anyone else? also, i flipped over to MLB Network and they weren't doing it live..Fox broadcast rules?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 04:37 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

I heard suzyn waldman update it as sterling called the Mfys on radio. They say the last out was a controversial called strike. Anyway, great for Ventura 2012

Ceetar Apr 21 2012 05:03 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

check swing, first impression was he didn't go, but the replay makes it look very close. (They didn't break it dow nvia overhead or anything) On such a inconsistently called thing, nice to see them err on the side of history. Ryan sorta ran but was complaining it wasn't a strike (he maybe have been 'trotting' since it would've been a walk. He definitely should've held up, it was a ball) to the point that if he had immediately dashed for first, he may have beaten the throw from the catcher on the pitch that got away.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 21 2012 05:07 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Good for Philip! And he wears No. 41, too!

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 05:17 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Valadius wrote: Phil Humber. Perfect game. Holy Shit !! btw, does this means he can now hang out with whatshername Upton on that commercial?

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 05:20 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

This is our cue to assemble the list of pre- and post- NYMs to pitch a no-hitter and/or PG. And the only man to pitch a no-no [u:3gds96x7]BOTH[/u:3gds96x7] as a pre-NYM and a post-NYM is ???

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 05:26 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

I knew that Santana trade sucked.

Met Hunter Apr 21 2012 06:09 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Pre Met- Don Cardwell Warren Spahn x2 Dean Chance Dock Ellis John Candelaria Bret Saberhagen Scott Erickson Kenny Rogers (PG) Al Leiter Hideo Nomo Post Met- Nolan Ryan x7 Tom Seaver Mike Scott Dwight Gooden David Cone (PG) Hideo Nomo Philip Humber (PG) Against- Sandy Koufax Jim Bunning (PG) Bob Moose Bob Stoneman Ed Halicki Darryl Kile For- Met farmhands- Jim Bibby AJ Burnett Pitched 1 inning of combined no-no Alejandro Pena Ricardo Rincon Octavio Dotel Billy Wagner

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2012 06:24 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Oh, btw the MFYs overcame a 9-0 deficit and beat the Bosox going away, 15-9. I mean, really.

metirish Apr 21 2012 08:08 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Unreal , things couldn't be going much worse for Valentine up there, getting booed, chants for Francona to come back....handbags in the press with players....seriously though , some of the Sox players seem like real fucking dicks...how about Pedroia and his "that stuff might work in Japan but not here"?, asshole.......Bobby will get through this.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2012 08:10 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

metirish wrote: Unreal , things couldn't be going much worse for Valentine up there, getting booed, chants for Francona to come back....handbags in the press with players....seriously though , some of the Sox players seem like real fucking dicks...how about Pedroia and his "that stuff might work in Japan but not here"?, asshole.......Bobby will get through this. Asshole Red Sox Nation may not let him.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 08:59 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Oh, btw the MFYs overcame a 9-0 deficit and beat the Bosox going away, 15-9. And not just a 9-0 lead, a 9-0 6th inning lead! I was so baseball-ed out after that Met 9th that I gave a glance at the Yanx/Sox score (like 7-0 at the time) and bailed on the TV. Missed the Sox self-destruction and the Humber perfecto completely (both were the FOX games). The BoSox are in serious shit. * Starting from last September 1st they're now 11-30 -- that's more than 1/4 season at close to '62 NYM winning pct territory -- with a team ERA of 6.15 (the chronically bad Texas staff during the steroid era was never that high) * Looking at today's box score to see who gave up all the shit and I barely recognize half the names. Sox fans can cry for Francona all they want but, unless someone can get past five innings (their starters are averaging less than 5/per) and take some of the pressure off the no-name pen, it isn't going to matter who's at the helm. * And the OF isn't any better now that it's missing both Crawford (hasn't played yet this season) and Ellsbury. Rumor has them closing in on a deal for Marlon Byrd from the Cubs. * Meanwhile, Saltalamacchia is 3 for 29 on the year (he dreams of having Ike's stats), Youkilis is under .200 as was Ellsbury before he went down.

Ceetar Apr 21 2012 09:04 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

and oddly, Red Sox are in better position this year than last. Aceves gave up most of the runs right? former Yankee who is actulaly pretty good?

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2012 09:06 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Sox are now 4-10, same position they were in at this point last year (after starting 2-10 in 2011) and then somehow managed to get to 83-52 by Aug 31 (before going 7-20 in Sept)

Ceetar Apr 21 2012 09:14 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Frayed Knot wrote: Sox are now 4-10, same position they were in at this point last year (after starting 2-10 in 2011) and then somehow managed to get to 83-52 by Aug 31 (before going 7-20 in Sept) oh, damn, guess I wasn't paying attention. I thought they were like 6-8.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2012 09:49 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Pretty good for the Sox for a guy they grabbed off waivers from Oakland, who themselves grabbed him off waivers from Kansas City. Phil F. Humber, mastering the tricky art of falling up.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 21 2012 10:05 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Time for Bobby to bring out the mustache and glasses.

The Second Spitter Apr 22 2012 03:49 AM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Ashie62 wrote: metirish wrote: Unreal , things couldn't be going much worse for Valentine up there, getting booed, chants for Francona to come back....handbags in the press with players....seriously though , some of the Sox players seem like real fucking dicks...how about Pedroia and his "that stuff might work in Japan but not here"?, asshole.......Bobby will get through this. Asshole Red Sox Nation may not let him. Heaven forbid somebody stands up to the Genius and the malignant histrionic personality disorder he suffers from. Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I heard suzyn waldman update it as sterling called the Mfys on radio. They say the last out was a controversial called strike. Anyway, great for Ventura 2012 check swing, first impression was he didn't go, but the replay makes it look very close. (They didn't break it dow nvia overhead or anything) On such a inconsistently called thing, nice to see them err on the side of history. Ryan sorta ran but was complaining it wasn't a strike (he maybe have been 'trotting' since it would've been a walk. He definitely should've held up, it was a ball) to the point that if he had immediately dashed for first, he may have beaten the throw from the catcher on the pitch that got away. He went.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 22 2012 08:48 AM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

And we were all angst-ridden about losing Kevin Mulvey!

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2012 09:59 AM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 22 2012 12:25 PM

Ashie62 wrote: I knew that Santana trade sucked. Actually, seeing this has to suck more for fans of the Twins than of the Mets. Humber is the centerpiece of the trade for your biggest star and he appears in all of 13 games as a reliever over two season before they release him. Now, two teams later, he's a regular starter who's gone 10-9 with a mid-3.00s ERA and a perfect game under his belt. btw, nice work by Miami Herald writer/ESPN talking head Israel Gutierrez for providing continued proof of ESPN's stellar attitude towards, and knowledge of, baseball. In remarking on the perfect game for ESPN's 'The Sports Reporters' this morning, he not only mis-pronounced Humber's name (the H is silent) but then proceeded to essentially call him a nobody who only "some crazed White Sox fan" had ever heard of prior to yesterday. No, Israel, this is the 7th season in the majors for a one-time major college star and former 3rd overall draft pick. He's been part of four different organizations so most of those fans would know him as well as would many other semi-conversant baseball followers. Just because YOU might hang around folks who do nothing but stalk LeBron all day doesn't mean Humber is some dude who just crawled out from under a rock to perform some sort of slight-of-hand trick yesterday. P.S. MLB.com is already hawking Humber jerseys

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2012 10:02 AM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Humber flirted with a no-hitter against the MFYs last year iirc.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2012 11:57 AM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

Well, we got Mulvey back, so...

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2012 12:42 PM Re: OoTS - 4/21/12

John Sickels likes to do prospect retrospectives when guys pop into the news via various feats, trades, etc. So naturally this was a perfect time to do one on Humber Sometimes these are especially useful for a player who has been adrift for a while and it becomes popular for history revisionists to write them off as the 'wrong choice' in the draft and/or never all that good from the beginning. Sickels stuff is obviously just his opinion so there are still going to be the nay-sayers but at least he's not averse to showing you what he was thinking at the time even if things didn't turn out as predicted. btw, we should really change - or at least augment - the subject heading on this thread as it'll get lost in the sauce otherwise.

MFS62 Apr 22 2012 02:47 PM Re: Humber is Perfect and Red Sox blow lead (OoTS - 4/21/12

On the 100th anniversary of Fenway park, both teams wore retro-style uniforms*. Doesn't look like they've been using the dead ball. Later * forget the thread, but someone here mentioned the Yanks wearing them. Sure enough, I heard one of their toadies on radio say how this was a demonstration of the team's sense of History.

smg58 Apr 23 2012 05:18 AM Re: Humber is Perfect and Red Sox blow lead (OoTS - 4/21/12

Just watched the last pitch. Honestly, the fact that Ryan even thought about swinging at a pitch that was several feet out of the strike zone should have disqualified him from arguing about it. I'm happy for Humber. He's overcome a major injury and all sorts of adversity to get to this point, not to mention expectations that for a long time kept getting revised downward.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2012 07:22 AM Re: Humber is Perfect and Red Sox blow lead (OoTS - 4/21/12

smg58 wrote: Just watched the last pitch. Honestly, the fact that Ryan even thought about swinging at a pitch that was several feet out of the strike zone should have disqualified him from arguing about it. Not to mention that pausing to argue about it destroyed any chance he may have had to beat the throw.

Edgy MD Apr 23 2012 10:22 AM Re: Humber is Perfect and Red Sox blow lead (OoTS - 4/21/12

Good for Humber. I'm curious to see what he can do against big-league hitters.