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Pelf on the shelf

metsguyinmichigan Apr 24 2012 02:13 PM

Rubin tweeting that Pelfrey is getting an MRI, possible ligament tear and Robert Carson headed from Buffalo. Don't think I've heard of Carson.

bmfc1 Apr 24 2012 02:14 PM Sick Pelfrey Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 24 2012 02:19 PM

On the DL. The Mets have called up Johnny Carson. Hi Yo!!! Sorry about that... it LHP Robert Carson.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 24 2012 02:16 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Figures that the guy who "gives you innings, at least" goes down as soon as he starts looking like he can push to new heights.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 24 2012 02:19 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 24 2012 02:21 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Really, I'm just surprised this isn't an intercostal issue or hairline fracture or something. Ribs are like the new obliques around here.

Edgy MD Apr 24 2012 02:25 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Four moves in two days. Enough to make a feller hate them Giants.

Ceetar Apr 24 2012 02:25 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

well, here's hoping it's just soreness and not actually ligament damage, which i assume is code for tommy john? Carson is a lefty reliever, presumably only here until Friday when they promote...Schwinden? Hefner?

Edgy MD Apr 24 2012 02:43 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Jeremy Hefner thinks this move sucks, by the way.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 24 2012 02:46 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

I suspect he'll be back soon. I'd be surprised if he pitched at all for Buffalo between now and Friday.

Ashie62 Apr 24 2012 02:50 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Pelfrey & Bay 21 million on the shelf.. Howya doin Fred!

metirish Apr 24 2012 02:52 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Christ , not a good few days....

Benjamin Grimm Apr 24 2012 02:53 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

It's official: Mets put RHP Pelfrey on 15-day disabled list with elbow problem, LF Bay out with broken rib By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, April 24, 4:46 PM NEW YORK — The New York Mets have put starting pitcher Mike Pelfrey and left fielder Jason Bay on the 15-day disabled list. The Mets made the moves before Tuesday night’s game against Miami. Pelfrey is sidelined with inflammation in his right elbow. But Mets general manager Sandy Alderson says the team hasn’t ruled out a torn ligament, and says Pelfrey will get a second opinion. Bay broke a rib on his left side trying for a diving catch during Monday night’s doubleheader sweep by San Francisco. The Mets say an MRI exam showed a nondisplaced fracture. Infielder Zach Lutz and left-handed pitcher Robert Carson were recalled from Triple-A Buffalo.

Edgy MD Apr 24 2012 02:53 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Pelfrey & Bay 21 million on the shelf.. Howya doin Fred! Again, it seems it's two guys a lot of people didn't want on the field anyway. All contracts carry injury risks. That's baseball. Ask Bill Giles or David Montgomery how they're doing paying Utley and Howard.

Ashie62 Apr 24 2012 02:54 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

This all smells of a mob hit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 24 2012 03:44 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Geez. This all started with that shitty start by Johan.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 24 2012 04:10 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 24 2012 04:13 PM

Ligament tear, gone for the season, says Rubin. Is Chris Young anywhere close to being ready? OE: Young is several weeks away from even minor league games. Schwinden expected this week.

Ceetar Apr 24 2012 04:13 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Ligament tear, gone for the season, says Rubin. Is Chris Young anywhere close to being ready? Rubin's a moron. edit: Ligament tear not ruled out. further tests tomorrow for full diagnosis followed by a second opinion. 2-3 days yet before we know. Best case is probably like 3-4 weeks. according to Alderson. Schwinden probably making the start. Up to Collins, but probably Nieuwenhuis in left, Torres in center. Torres probably returns in Houston rather than in Colorado.

Frayed Knot Apr 24 2012 04:19 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

* Rubin's either got some real good inside info that no one else seems to have or he's going way out on a limb here. * I don't think Hefner can be an option for at least ten days since he was just sent down. Yeah you can get around that rule in cases of an injury but it seems to me that [u:2chtk2l0]today's move[/u:2chtk2l0] was the one in response to Pelfrey's injury and I don't believe a theoretical swap of Carson for Hefner 3 or 4 days from now would qualify under that loophole. * Club saying that Harvey & Familia are NOT options at this time.

Ceetar Apr 24 2012 04:28 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

found Rubin's link. he's claiming someone told him that he does indeed have a partial tear and the Mets are 'bracing' to lose him for the season but exploring other options. The way he writes it makes it sound worse, like it's a foregone conclusion but Alderson made it out like they had no idea and needed to see what the next 2-3 days bring.

TransMonk Apr 24 2012 04:38 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Ceetar wrote: Alderson made it out like they had no idea and needed to see what the next 2-3 days bring. Sounds like Sandy. Fuck me running.

Frayed Knot Apr 24 2012 04:56 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Guys have pitched with partial tears (if that's what it is) but I suppose it's only a matter of time until that becomes a full tear in need of full repair. Pelf might want to take care of things before it ever gets to that point just so it gets him on the road to recovery now that he's going to be entering his FA years. Obviously not good timing for the Mets in general. Really suxx for him though.

metirish Apr 24 2012 05:04 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Looking for second opinion from Dr. Andrews says Heyman.

Ashie62 Apr 24 2012 06:06 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Ceetar wrote: found Rubin's link. he's claiming someone told him that he does indeed have a partial tear and the Mets are 'bracing' to lose him for the season but exploring other options. The way he writes it makes it sound worse, like it's a foregone conclusion but Alderson made it out like they had no idea and needed to see what the next 2-3 days bring. Saw it also...with a caveat from Pelfrey himself that it may not be that bad.

Frayed Knot Apr 24 2012 07:30 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Two sentences most Americans never want to hear: - "Hi, I'm Mike Wallace from '60 Minutes' and I'd like to talk to you about your company's finances" - "It might be nothing but we've made an appointment for you with Dr. James Andrews"

Edgy MD Apr 24 2012 08:58 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Frayed Knot wrote: "Hi, I'm Mike Wallace from '60 Minutes' and I'd like to talk to you about your company's finances" Yeah, I can't tell you how much that would creep me out. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Geez. This all started with that shitty start by Johan. And it ends with a really good one.

Frayed Knot Apr 25 2012 06:08 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Edgy DC wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: "Hi, I'm Mike Wallace from '60 Minutes' and I'd like to talk to you about your company's finances" Yeah, I can't tell you how much that would creep me out. Particularly if it happened, like, this week.

Gwreck Apr 26 2012 03:05 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Ceetar wrote: Rubin's a moron. I have Adam R. on line two, awaiting your apology. You may not like him but his reporting is solid.

Ceetar Apr 26 2012 03:11 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Gwreck wrote: Ceetar wrote: Rubin's a moron. I have Adam R. on line two, awaiting your apology. You may not like him but his reporting is solid. I didn't say his 'reporting' wasn't solid, I was implying he twisted the story in a negative light and jumping the gun on the additional testing and review, which he did. Just because he ended being correct, doesn't make it any more of a negatively spun story. For example, Martino also mentioned the tear but mentioned the hesitancy and the hope that maybe it was just a small tear/tendinitis/non-surgical.

Ashie62 Apr 26 2012 04:27 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Cue the Memories of Mike Pelfrey thread in October.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 26 2012 06:44 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: Rubin's a moron. I have Adam R. on line two, awaiting your apology. You may not like him but his reporting is solid. I didn't say his 'reporting' wasn't solid, I was implying he twisted the story in a negative light and jumping the gun on the additional testing and review, which he did. Just because he ended being correct, doesn't make it any more of a negatively spun story. So what you're saying, then, is that he isn't a moron? He wasn't guessing, for Christ's sake. He was reporting what a source told him, and focused on the possibility of season-ending surgery which, y'know, WAS the story.

Ceetar Apr 26 2012 07:14 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

would it be better if I said Rubin's a partial jerk?

TransMonk May 02 2012 07:56 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Per Metsblog, Mike Pelfrey’s TJ surgery was successful.

Nymr83 May 02 2012 09:01 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Given that I was ready to non-tender him rather than risk arbitration this past offseason, I'd certainly do so again. But I have questions- If a player suffers injury and is placed on the DL does the team owe him anything past his current contract in terms of medical? Would he just have to file for worker's comp if still injured (and nobody else signs him?). Probably a moot point as he'll get the minimum from someone (or a minor league contract, either one of which gets him free access to his new team's doctors) but I'm just curious

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 09:06 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

I was wondering that too. Pelfrey is eligible for arbitration again for 2013, right? And he can't get less than 80 per cent of this year's contract, so he'll surely be non-tendered. Once that happens, he'll be available cheap and I suppose the Mets might be one of the teams willing to consider signing him. (I don't know if they will or not, and my guess is that they won't, but Pelfrey isn't necessarily finished as a Met.)

Edgy MD May 02 2012 09:08 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Ceetar wrote: would it be better if I said Rubin's a partial jerk? Has there ever been a negative post-op report on a Tommy John surgery? On virtually any sports medicine surgery? "We took a ligament from Mike's hip and tranplanted it to his elbow and, frankly, it was an absolute disaster."

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 09:11 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

I guess there are things that could go wrong that would be immediately identifiable. A patient could die on the operating table, for example. Or when the surgery is done he could find that his fingers are paralyzed. So I think that when they say that it went well, they mean that nothing went horribly wrong.

Ceetar May 02 2012 09:17 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was wondering that too. Pelfrey is eligible for arbitration again for 2013, right? And he can't get less than 80 per cent of this year's contract, so he'll surely be non-tendered. Once that happens, he'll be available cheap and I suppose the Mets might be one of the teams willing to consider signing him. (I don't know if they will or not, and my guess is that they won't, but Pelfrey isn't necessarily finished as a Met.) It's a moot point because I don't see any way they actually offer him arbitration. The Mets can say "Hey, we're not tendering you to not be available until May-June, but if you take this 1 million dollar contract, we'll gladly let you mill about and provide depth. I mean, that's what he'd get from another team anyway right? Does the status quo make the Mets more favorable? I guess we'll see come November and accessing the team's SP depth. Maybe a team will indeed tell him we're gonna sign Bartolo Colon to hold down the fort, but expect you to take his spot in June? But I don't see any real reason the Mets would outright not look to retain him, pitching depth being what it is. Unless someone's actually willing to seriously offer him a contract of substance?

Ceetar May 02 2012 09:18 AM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Edgy DC wrote: Ceetar wrote: would it be better if I said Rubin's a partial jerk? Has there ever been a negative post-op report on a Tommy John surgery? On virtually any sports medicine surgery? "We took a ligament from Mike's hip and tranplanted it to his elbow and, frankly, it was an absolute disaster." We went in to replace his ligament and determined he doesn't have one. We looked up and realized we'd gotten Dickey instead of Pelfrey.

Ashie62 May 02 2012 12:51 PM Re: Pelf on the shelf

Edgy DC wrote: Ceetar wrote: would it be better if I said Rubin's a partial jerk? Has there ever been a negative post-op report on a Tommy John surgery? On virtually any sports medicine surgery? "We took a ligament from Mike's hip and tranplanted it to his elbow and, frankly, it was an absolute disaster." The surgeon.