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IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 07:43 AM

LGM. 2 pm start. Wandy Rodriguez leading the enemies. Duda "might" start, Terry says. Reserve catcher likely to be taxied if Nickeas is still Sickeas.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 10:10 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Kirk with the day off. Tejada ss Muffy 2b Wright 3b Hairy lf Doodoo rf Torres cf Davis 1b Thole c Schwinny p

Lefty Specialist May 02 2012 11:34 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Hairston batting cleanup does not inspire a great deal of confidence. Prove me wrong, O bald one.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 11:46 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Yeah, maybe gimme some: Torres cf Tejada ss Murphy 2b Wright 3b Doodoo rf Hairy lf Davis 1b Thole c Schwincompoop, sp I'm a little curious when Operation Torres Restoration goes into effect. Until he bats leadoff again, it's this thing I keep waiting to happen. It's driving me mad.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 11:49 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I don't like Torres 6th any better than 1st that's for sure.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 11:50 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Yeah, if he's not going to be leadoff, eighth or ninth is fine.

Ceetar May 02 2012 11:51 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Edgy DC wrote: I'm a little curious when Operation Torres Restoration goes into effect. Until he bats leadoff again, it's this thing I keep waiting to happen. It's driving me mad. To be fair, it wasn't a long drive. I think Collins is liking him down further as a break up the lefties guy.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 11:53 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I see what Terry is trying to do... with four of the starting eight batting left-handed, he doesn't want to cluster them too much in the middle of the lineup. Edgy's lineup accomplishes the same thing, but I think, in a better way. EDIT: Ceetar said pretty much the same thing I did, but two minutes sooner.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 11:57 AM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Ike needs to hit a few shots off or over the fence before he earns his way back up to 6th is what this really is about. But still. It drove me nuts these last few nights to see Torres getting up there in the middle of everything.

metirish May 02 2012 12:00 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Just win baby.....

Edgy MD May 02 2012 12:04 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I'm a little curious when Operation Torres Restoration goes into effect. Until he bats leadoff again, it's this thing I keep waiting to happen. It's driving me mad. To be fair, it wasn't a long drive. I think Collins is liking him down further as a break up the lefties guy. I see what Terry is trying to do... with four of the starting eight batting left-handed, he doesn't want to cluster them too much in the middle of the lineup. Edgy's lineup accomplishes the same thing, but I think, in a better way. EDIT: Ceetar said pretty much the same thing I did, but two minutes sooner. Yabbut, you honored my attempt to do better and Ceetar zinged me for the effort. DAMN YOU, CEETAR!

Edgy MD May 02 2012 12:05 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ike needs to hit a few shots off or over the fence before he earns his way back up to 6th is what this really is about. But still. It drove me nuts these last few nights to see Torres getting up there in the middle of everything. Ceets, that's your cue. Where are you on this one, man?!

Centerfield May 02 2012 12:07 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

We really need Jason Bay. Yes I just typed that.

Ceetar May 02 2012 12:07 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Edgy DC wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ike needs to hit a few shots off or over the fence before he earns his way back up to 6th is what this really is about. But still. It drove me nuts these last few nights to see Torres getting up there in the middle of everything. Ceets, that's your cue. Where are you on this one, man?! me? I'm already nuts. I'm the 4sq mayor of the place. I think I like your lineup better. Torres up front. I don't like Hairston cleanup though he has hit sorta well lately.

Ceetar May 02 2012 12:09 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

oh yay, Tejada thrown at third to start the game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:15 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Duda not in game after all. Neiuwy in left. Schwinden walks shitty leadoff hitter, who steals on next pitch.

Ceetar May 02 2012 12:16 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Duda not in game after all. Neiuwy in left. Schwinden walks shitty leadoff hitter, who steals on next pitch. given the lineup is the 'same' I wonder if Duda was technically replaced after the lineup cards exchanged?

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 12:17 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

And now he's 3 and 0 on the second batter.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:19 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Duda is available as a PH. Schwinny escapes the 1st scoreless.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 12:20 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Duda not in game after all. Neiuwy in left. Schwinden walks shitty leadoff hitter, who steals on next pitch. given the lineup is the 'same' I wonder if Duda was technically replaced after the lineup cards exchanged? Gameday giving me a boxscore that doesn't include Duda, so I'm guessing he's still available.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 12:22 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I was hoping we could get Ramirez or somebody to pinch-puke for Duda.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:23 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Dispatch from the real world: Junior Seau shoots himself to death.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:24 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Nieuwenhuis walks. Duda vomits.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:26 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Torres goes down swinging.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 12:26 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

The MLB.com box score shows Duda available on the bench, but the box score on Yahoo.com (which I trust a bit less) shows Nieuwenhuis as a sub for Duda.

Ceetar May 02 2012 12:27 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The MLB.com box score shows Duda available on the bench, but the box score on Yahoo.com (which I trust a bit less) shows Nieuwenhuis as a sub for Duda. the lineup card in the dugout shows Duda available in the lh batter column.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 12:28 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Wow, Ceetar, are you actually in the Mets dugout??? Is Anna Karenina there?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:30 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Schwinden's no-hit bid is over as Lowrie singles to lead off 2nd.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:31 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Schwinden's 1-hitter bid is over too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:34 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

aaaaand, a 3 run homer. Ends here for Schwinden, just has to.

Frayed Knot May 02 2012 12:36 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I think I've detected the Mets' pitching plan: Follow each shitty hit you give up with a HR

Edgy MD May 02 2012 12:38 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: aaaaand, a 3 run homer. Ends here for Schwinden, just has to. This game, maybe, but not this inning. Olson, Hefner, call your agents.

Ceetar May 02 2012 12:39 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: aaaaand, a 3 run homer. Ends here for Schwinden, just has to. well, if he can settle down and only allow the 3 through 5-6..maybe..but yeah, let's see Hefner?

Farmer Ted May 02 2012 12:40 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Are you fucking shitting me? Houston? The Astros? Doing this to the Mighty Mets?

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 12:40 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

CALLING JEREMY HEFNER... CALLING JEREMY HEFNER...

Frayed Knot May 02 2012 12:40 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

It's come to the point where as soon as I see a dinky swinging bunt up the 3rd base line I instantly know what's coming next.

HahnSolo May 02 2012 12:46 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Schwinden due up this inning. You let him hit?

Ashie62 May 02 2012 12:47 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

It would be irresponsible to give Schwinden another Mets start anytime soon.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 12:49 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

It was a dumb idea to have to get to him so soon, as I said before. I really feel like the Mets have to try and win all they can while they can still see the leaders. Wasted two games on this stiff in addition to the 4 last year. He's never had a good Major League game.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 12:50 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I probably do. The bench is short, the bullpen's gassed. On the other hand, offday tomorrow.

Ceetar May 02 2012 12:51 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

the 4 last year were at least competitive and he was striking some guys out. Hasn't done this yet this year. Might not.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 01:00 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Jesus H, Ceetar. They were in September, he was giving up 2 runners an inning, and he only got out of the 5th once. They've lost every game he's ever pitched.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 01:01 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

as he surrenders another HR.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 01:03 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

To Chris Johnson again. If I'm Ceetar, I'm thinking that Schwinden is a pretty good pitcher as long as he's not pitching to Chris Johnson.

Ceetar May 02 2012 01:06 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jesus H, Ceetar. They were in September, he was giving up 2 runners an inning, and he only got out of the 5th once. They've lost every game he's ever pitched. I was really only looking for 3 runs 5 innings, which he did the last three starts. not a high bar, but I figured that was 'doable' for the Mets to overcome. 5 in 3 not so much. I imagine there is an easy transfer at JFK or LGA to [url]http://www.buffaloairport.com/ Well, he threw the same pitch, to the same batter, in the same spot. 'big league' stuff or not, you can't do that.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 01:11 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

We are the Mets. This is our gig. Five-run holes is what dig

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 01:19 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Do you let Schwinden bat in the 5th? Let him take his lumps and spare the bullpen some innings? Or do you get him the hell out of there now?

Ceetar May 02 2012 01:21 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

You guys will dig this quote from Josh Lewin ( in re strikeouts): "When you're having more than one, Schafer's the guy to pitch to." and I'll follow that up with reminding you to read Greg's paper from Hofstra. good stuff. [url]http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2012/05/02/our-shared-language-besides-rats/

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 01:26 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Turner hits for Schwinden, thereby ending his misery for the day. Tejada has his third hit of the day.

Frayed Knot May 02 2012 01:27 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I have to say that the weak ground-ball practice they've apparently been taking is paying off really nicely.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 01:34 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Manny are the problems of this team.

metsguyinmichigan May 02 2012 01:37 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I'm not gonna be allowed to post another KTE for a long time, I fear.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 01:38 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Astros have a better team than we do, it's pretty clear.

Ceetar May 02 2012 01:42 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'm not gonna be allowed to post another KTE for a long time, I fear. I'm gonna smash your gnome too.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 01:45 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

At this point, I'd let Valdespin finish the game for Wright. I'd pull Murphy and Tejada too, except that with Turner used I think the Mets are out of infielders.

Frayed Knot May 02 2012 01:46 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Benjamin Grimm wrote: At this point, I'd let Valdespin finish the game for Wright. Except that we may need him to pitch.

TransMonk May 02 2012 01:48 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I hat baseball.

Frayed Knot May 02 2012 01:50 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

The problem with our attempts to mount comeback via sneaking singles through the hole is that you get to the point when you'll need about 15 of them in a row.

metsguyinmichigan May 02 2012 01:53 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Ceetar wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'm not gonna be allowed to post another KTE for a long time, I fear. I'm gonna smash your gnome too. He's going to get worn out at this point.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 01:54 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

"Smash your gnome" sounds like some kind of kinky euphemism.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 01:55 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Would it be possible to replace Acosta, Batista, and Schwinden on the roster before the next game the Mets play?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 01:57 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Yes.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 01:58 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Are we certain Jose Lima is dead? I don't imagine Acosta is going anywheres just yet, but I'm curious what happens, as Sandy has a nice basky day off to drink lemonade and think about it.

Ceetar May 02 2012 02:11 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

teams showed a quick hand in the past, with promotions and releases and what not. I think Acosta probably has some cache of good appearances over the years built up to save him, but the other two have no place.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 02:18 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I might consider something like making Manny the long/spot man. Remember when we had Aaron Sele on the roster all year and never needed him?

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 02:18 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Okay, fine, Acosta can be the third guy out the door. I'd keep him in the organization; let him see if he can get his act together in Buffalo. Schwinden too, I suppose. Batista should probably just be released.

Ceetar May 02 2012 02:21 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I might consider something like making Manny the long/spot man. Remember when we had Aaron Sele on the roster all year and never needed him? oh, we needed him. he got a lot of work down the stretch somehow. edit: looked it up. not really a lot of work, but five September appearances, and only managed not to give up a run once. (that crazy game against Florida a week to go on the last day of RFK) he retired after that. I hadn't known that.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 02:27 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Aaron Sele: strange contributor to the September collapse. He had gone all year without starting and when they needed someone the last two weeks they were willing to go to anyone but him. Meanstwhile, I guess a part of this is losing the left and rightfielder simultaneously.

Edgy MD May 02 2012 02:49 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Well, that's rock-bottom.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 02:52 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

I hope so.

Ceetar May 02 2012 02:53 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

losing streaks build character and keep teams from getting complacent right?

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2012 02:54 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Or... they send the team into a tailspin from which they never recover. I've seen that more than a few times.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2012 03:07 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Or... they send the team into a tailspin from which they never recover. I've seen that more than a few times. Yup.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2012 03:10 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

It seems they changed into their "Born Loser" costumes a little early for the flight home.

metirish May 02 2012 04:29 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Christ, just saw the meatballs Schwinden served up for the home runs, looked tasty.....couldn't have been right down the middle if he tried. Not at this grade mate, sorry.

Fman99 May 02 2012 06:42 PM Re: IGT May 2 @ Houston (Game 25): Just Schwin, baby

Schwindon't pitch so good. He can go now, see ya, wouldn't want to be ya.