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Edgy MD May 16 2012 12:49 PM |
Interesting on last night's radio broadcast was Howard and Joshua were speaking of David Wright explicitly as captain. Specifically Howie, and when he caught himself saying it, paused very briefly, but rather than outright backtrack into a more political re-phrasing --- "captain-like," "captain candidate" --- he only modified it with something like, "He essentially has been in that role for at least two years or more." I'm paraphrasing there, but it was the sort of modifier that started out as an attempt to correct himself and ended up as doubling down.
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Gwreck May 16 2012 12:54 PM Re: Captain |
The only thing more ridiculous than the "captain" nonsense that comes out of the Bronx is the "captain" nonsense coming out of Queens regarding David Wright.
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Edgy MD May 16 2012 01:02 PM Re: Captain |
Hey man, sorry. It's just a bubbling thing. I certainly concur if you mean to suggest that clamoring for the honor has become one more tired populist cause with which to hammer the allegedly tone-deaf management.
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Ceetar May 16 2012 01:20 PM Re: Captain |
I've been beating this drum for years. It's only become that much more obvious. He's on his third GM and fourth manager.
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G-Fafif May 16 2012 01:25 PM Re: Captain |
I'm pretty sure it was Marty Noble who told our little Amazin' Tuesday group in 2010 that the C had been offered to DW and he didn't want it. People and preferences change, but Marty's take was David didn't need/want that sort of designation even though he was the de facto Man by then already.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 16 2012 01:25 PM Re: Captain |
Team doesn't need a captain and Wright probably doesn't wanna be it anyway. Sure he'd say yes if they asked him but imagine the extra pressure it'll bring the next time he goes into one of those funks. No thunks!
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Edgy MD May 16 2012 01:29 PM Re: Captain |
I agree that the team doesn't need one. I agree that it would unfortunately put more pressure on him. I do, however, think he wants it. (Though I'm certainly intrigued that he turned it down in 2010.)
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Ceetar May 16 2012 01:32 PM Re: Captain |
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Did he? The way I recall it (I wasn't at the Amazin' Tuesday event) Manuel didn't actually want to give him a C.
Well, he's already the captain. actually giving him the C is just a way to celebrate it. Yeah, when he's having a funk or does something people don't like the talk radio will be all "But a captain can't behave like that!" but screw 'em, they're gonna say crap like that anyway. It's really just another way to market your star player. Obviously all the talking heads care about his championships, which is why the clearly not a captain captain across town gets very little crap, but you shouldn't cater to those people, cater to the fans that love Wright and don't mind another reason to celebrate him.
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batmagadanleadoff May 16 2012 01:52 PM Re: Captain |
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ConCur. Am in aCCord I Couldn't give a flying [crossout]fuCk[/crossout] Coitus about the big C on someone's uniform Chest. Unless he gets his C by whining and pouting and exhibiting manipulative behavior to the point of having to be mollified because some other teammate got the C instead. Then he's on my shit list. If Wright truly and honestly doesn't want the C designation, and this isn't just some bullshit act to get the C that he really wants without it appearing that he really wants the C, well then I'm for David Wright all the more.
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Edgy MD May 16 2012 02:18 PM Re: Captain |
Wait, what's the potentially bullshit act? The dugout rhubarb?
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Benjamin Grimm May 16 2012 02:20 PM Re: Captain |
Forget the "C" on the jersey; I can't imagine that he'd turn down the captaincy if it came with the right to wear a hat like this one during the game:
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 16 2012 03:04 PM Re: Captain |
Since he's not the one arguing calls, or bringing out the lineup, or taking over as manager if Terry's run, what does a "C" mean, practically speaking? Does he get to name the wildcards for clubhouse poker games during playoff games? Does he get to marry couples in the clubhouse, if necessary?
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Edgy MD May 16 2012 03:28 PM Re: Captain |
What do you think it means? I think we all have an idea, related but different.
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Ashie62 May 16 2012 04:00 PM Re: Captain |
Leave the Captain designations to hockey.
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batmagadanleadoff May 16 2012 04:16 PM Re: Captain |
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David and Terry can do whatever they wanna do. All I was sayin' is that I don't give a flying fuck. Unless you can show me that Jason Bay's gonna hit 10 more HR's that he wouldn't otherwise hit if it weren't for the proposed C on DW's chest. Or that D's C is gonna knock a half a run a game off of No Nose Niese's ERA. Otherwise I file it with the same bullshit that's supposed to convince me that David Eckstein wants to win more than most every other ballplayer just because once upon a time, his bullshit parachute of a hit luckily landed where they weren't and that once upon a time happened to be in the World Series. It's an honor, no doubt, the C, but nonsense as far as effecting anything of consequence, is how I see it.
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Edgy MD May 16 2012 10:24 PM Re: Captain |
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So, what was this about? The Noble report from 2010?
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batmagadanleadoff May 16 2012 10:37 PM Re: Captain |
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I just threw that in there. Just in case. Covering all bases.
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Edgy MD Jul 11 2012 11:39 AM Re: Captain |
Buddy Boy took time off of from the All-Star Game to call and encourage Dillon Gee.
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Mets – Willets Point Jul 11 2012 11:53 AM Re: Captain |
Soupcan is my only captain.
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Edgy MD Jul 11 2012 11:55 AM Re: Captain |
Soupcan is a dude, but he's taken much of this season off.
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SteveJRogers Jul 11 2012 11:59 AM Re: Captain |
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Funny you should bring up the marketing angle. And granted I don't think I ever saw a 45Franco T-Shirt or jersey with a "C" on it, but I did hear some theories put out there that the Skanks officially made Jeter the Captain for the marketing aspect, so they could put out merchandise reflecting his being named "Captain". And it should be pointed out that Jeter has never had a "C" on his jersey. I think the Mets and Reds are only organzations that do that hockey, and now football, tradition of putting the "C" on the jersey of the captain, and with Franco it was quite a while into his captaincy when some hockey loving teammates suggested it. And as far as I can tell, the Yankees have yet to put out an official piece of Jeter specific merchandise with a notification that he is in the Captain role (wouldn't shock me if an officially licensed shirt existed with Jeter among the famous Yankee Captains like Gehrig, Munson and Mattingly). Not disagreeing with you, nor would it shock me if the Mets made a shirt akin to the above 7Line shirt after making Wright Captain, just saying that it would be the first time such a thing had happened in the New York market.
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Edgy MD Jul 11 2012 12:04 PM Re: Captain |
Using a captaincy as a marketing angle does not necessarily mean authorizing official Captain merchandise.
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Swan Swan H Jul 11 2012 12:08 PM Re: Captain |
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Centerfield Jul 11 2012 12:15 PM Re: Captain |
Did Carter ever have a C on his jersey? I remember Keith did, but as far as I remember, they were co-captains...
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Ceetar Jul 11 2012 12:16 PM Re: Captain |
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in a sense they've already started that marketing angle with the coverage of Wright this season. officially licensed merchandise gets mostly shared anyway, which is maybe why the Yankees never put forth much effort in that regard, since they already bitch about it.
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Centerfield Jul 11 2012 12:18 PM Re: Captain |
Whatever happened to soupcan's "C"?
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Mets – Willets Point Jul 11 2012 12:21 PM Re: Captain |
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Edgy is fickle.
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Swan Swan H Jul 11 2012 12:25 PM Re: Captain |
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From UniWatch: John Franco, Mets (now with the Astros): "C" worn on left front shoulder (the same placement Keith Hernandez used while captaining the Mets in 1987, although he and Gary Carter both went "C"-less when Carter was named co-captain in 1988).
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Swan Swan H Jul 11 2012 12:33 PM Re: Captain |
Oh, and Sammy Sosa, Mark Grace and other Cubs captains wore a 'C' on their sleeve.
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Edgy MD Jul 11 2012 12:43 PM Re: Captain |
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sharpie Jul 11 2012 12:58 PM Re: Captain |
Actually all Cubs wear a C on their right sleeve. Sosa, Grace, et al wear C's on both sleeves.
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seawolf17 Jul 11 2012 01:02 PM Re: Captain |
Well, you gotta have a C, or you're gonna have a lot of passed balls.
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soupcan Jul 11 2012 01:54 PM Re: Captain |
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I'm touched sir. Touched.
That's okay, I'll take 'Dude'. Kinda like when I ran for president of my fraternity and lost. They gave me 'Chaplain' as a consolation. Kinda weird for a Jewish boy, but it was cool. And I apologize for my limited participation this season. I'll try harder.
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Frayed Knot Jul 11 2012 01:55 PM Re: Captain |
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Because once they named a second captain it was like having no captain at all. Which was a good thing IMO.
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Mets – Willets Point Jul 11 2012 02:05 PM Re: Captain |
Screw captain. I think he should hold out for Admiral Wright.
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Edgy MD Jul 11 2012 02:39 PM Re: Captain |
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soupcan Jul 11 2012 02:41 PM Re: Captain |
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Edgy MD Jul 11 2012 02:46 PM Re: Captain |
You didn't get the attachment?
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soupcan Jul 11 2012 02:56 PM Re: Captain |
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DUH....didn't see it before. Awesome, thanks.
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