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Benjamin Grimm
Dec 01 2005 10:12 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 15 2005 01:00 PM

Peter Jackson's remake of the 1933 classic opens on December 14.

There was a three-minute preview on my TiVo last night, and watching it gave me goosebumps.

I had low expectations for Fantastic Four this summer, and I was able to be pleasantly surprised.

I have very high expectations for this movie. I may be setting myself up for a disappointment, but I don't think that will happen.

I just can't wait for this movie to open!

Edgy DC
Dec 01 2005 10:35 AM

Jeff Bridges in the 1976 version is my idea of the great seventies hero: the sixties countrecultural type who, despite his indifference to hygeine and Joy of Sex beard, hauls himself through an elite college and into an appointment as a bigshot junior execuive with a multinational firm, having busted through by virtue of his brilliance being rewarded in the new meritocracy that the cutural revolution established in place of their parent's old-boys network. (74 words)



So, as the evil guys in suits plot to rule the world, this conscientious smelly guy in Hawaiian shirts inexplicably always gets a voice at the table. Other lesser examples include Michael Douglas in China Syndrome.

metirish
Dec 07 2005 08:37 PM

King Kong is getting rave reviews...the industry is talking Titanic type box office for it...Jack Mattews from the Daily News is very excited...



Climbing to the top?

The terrific 'King Kong' could be very, very big – maybe the all-time No. 1

In assessing this year's Oscar race last month, I wrote that if Peter Jackson's "King Kong" turns out as well as his three "Lord of the Rings" movies, you can count it in as a Best Picture nominee.
I should have been more optimistic.

Now that I've seen it, the question is whether it can top 1997's "Titanic" as the highest-grossing movie of all time.

The short answer is, probably not. "Titanic's" box-office performance is in an orbit of its own. It sold $600.8 million worth of tickets at home — $140 million more than No. 2 "Star Wars" — and $1.8 billion worldwide, more than $700million better than the last "Lord of the Rings" episode.

But "Kong" is the first film to come along in years with at least a shot at the No. 1 spot.

"The pedigree of the filmmaker and the scope and breadth of 'Kong' lead me to believe it's the first movie that could remotely challenge 'Titanic' in cultural and box-office impact," says Paul Dergarabedian, president of the theater trend-watching Exhibitor Relations Inc.

"Kong," which opens nationally next Wednesday, is as good a movie as "Titanic," and it would seem to have a broader audience.

You'll remember that "Titanic's" spectacular run was fueled by teenage girls smitten by the ill-fated love of Leonardo DiCaprio's Jack and Kate Winslet's Rose. "King Kong" has its own love story — two, if you count the one between humans — and its run will be ­fueled largely by teenage boys smitten by the action on Skull Island.

It is there that Kong, while protecting blond actress Ann Darrow ­(Naomi Watts), takes on herds of dinosaurs, squadrons of giant bats and scores of pesky humans before succumbing to chloroform bombs and being hauled back to New York for his disastrous Broadway debut.

As we have seen with the "Star Wars" movies — which hold three spots in the all-time box office top 10 — teenage boys will risk even repetitive-stress injury clutching tickets to the same action movie.

And "Kong," whose budget is in the $200 million range of "Titanic," offers those kids a lot more bang for the buck. Watching the Titanic go down in the second half of James Cameron's movie is visually and viscerally stunning, but Kong scaling the Empire State Building to swat at fighter planes is sheer inspiration!

Just as importantly, "Kong" is also very sentimental — not just in the ­famous last scene, where he lies dead in the street next to the Empire State Building, the victim not of planes or bullets but of beauty.

In Jackson's movie, which he wrote with his "Rings" collaborators Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, beauty is more than blond-deep. It's the sense of life, love and freedom. Women, as my swooning colleague Jami Bernard has already attested, are going to fall hard for this Kong.

Watts' Ann Darrow is far friendlier to the ape than the wiggly, screeching Fay Wray was in the '33 film. She gives out a few early hollers, but after being saved several times by Kong — and sensing a refreshing gentleness in this non-New Yorker — she might be house-hunting on Skull Island if it weren't for her boyfriend, Jack Driscoll (Adrien Brody), and the film crew tracking her into the jungle.

In the scene where Ann wakes up in Kong's paw to see Jack motioning for her to slip away, there is a look of disappointment on her face, as if she wants to say, "Sorry, Jack, I'm with him now."

Sentiment is an essential element of blockbusters. Once "Star Wars" got going, teenage boys kept it going, but in the 1977 original, which ranks second behind "Titanic" on the box-office chart, there was the irresistible sexual tension between Han Solo and Princess Leia.

"Shrek 2," the third-highest ­grosser, was fueled by the audience's enchantment with the sublime romance between the ogre and Princess ­Fiona. And, of course, with "Gone With the Wind" (the most popular movie in history in terms of ticket sales adjusted for inflation), the power of love has passed the test of time.

So has the power of the timeless tale of the beauty and the beast, which has made King Kong Hollywood's greatest and most sympathetic monster. Jackson's remake will only enhance his reputation, and I'll be surprised if it isn't seen by ­everyone who has ever heard of him.


A monster boost for the box office

Regardless of whether "King Kong" ends up challenging "Titanic" for all-time box-office champ, analysts think it — along with "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" and "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" (which opens this weekend) — will take the gloom off Hollywood's slumping year.

After being down from 7%-10% through the year's first 10 months, the U.S. box office has rallied under the Hogwarts banner of ­"Harry Potter," and is now down only 5.5% from last year. With more than $229 million in ticket sales since its Thanksgiving Weekend opening, ­"Harry" has boosted Hollywood to a 10% increase over the same period in 2004.

"It's a moral and psychological victory for Hollywood," says box-office analyst Paul Dergarabedian. "It won't pull us completely out of the slump, but we'll end the year on a very positive note."

However the numbers turn out, Dergarabedian and others believe America's movie ­habits are changing. With home entertainment systems, moviegoers are willing to wait on all but the most appealing films for the DVD releases.

"We're getting to the point where people only want to go out to see movies that are as big as the screen," says Dergarabedian. "They want to see 'event movies' like 'Kong.' The rest they'll wait for."


Willets Point
Dec 07 2005 09:04 PM

is as good a movie as "Titanic


Faint praise.


I've had a crush on Jessica Lange since I was a child starting with her appearance in the 1970's King Kong.

Edgy DC
Dec 07 2005 09:23 PM

That review is almost all speculation on bankability.

metirish
Dec 08 2005 06:47 AM

Yes that's my fault, his review was the day before, a 4 star one.

Elster88
Dec 08 2005 06:59 AM

This deal about grossing is such bullshit, unless they adjust for inflation. How much do you think the 1977 Star Wars would've made in 2005 dollars?

metirish
Dec 08 2005 07:16 AM

I'm certain they do that Elster, Star Wars would have to be ajusted to beat out Shrek I would think.

Elster88
Dec 08 2005 07:24 AM

metirish wrote:
I'm certain they do that Elster, Star Wars would have to be ajusted to beat out Shrek I would think.


Apparently they don't since the article says this:

And, of course, with "Gone With the Wind" (the most popular movie in history in terms of ticket sales adjusted for inflation), the power of love has passed the test of time.


If Gone With the Wind sits at four and is number one after adjusting for inflation, then I'm guessing the list as it sits is not adjusted.

metirish
Dec 08 2005 07:26 AM

It's confusing to say the least that article...anyway I can't wait to see King Kong.

Zvon
Dec 12 2005 02:46 PM

t-minus 2 days.
(i wont see it with the 1st flock but i hope to b4 Xmas)





as soon as i found out he was back to climbing the Empire State Building,(and a 1930's ESB to boot) I was down for this.

Been following the online production diary for about 3 months.

http://www.kongisking.net/kong2005/proddiary/

http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/non ... /range/253

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 12 2005 02:56 PM

I have never, ever, even when I was a kid, been so eager to see a movie as I am this one.

I want to see it on Wednesday morning, but I think it'll either be Friday evening or some time on Sunday before I'm able to.

I think the movie will give me three hours of goosebumps.

Is it possible to overdose on goosebumps? Is there any medication I should take before the movie starts?

Willets Point
Dec 12 2005 03:44 PM

I like this thread because there's a picture of Jessica Lange in a most drool-worthy pose. Thanks to y'all who keep bumping it up.

Edgy DC
Dec 12 2005 04:13 PM

Her relationship with Kong ended badly.

Willets Point
Dec 12 2005 04:17 PM

You think that's a Kong pelt she's got draped over her?

Edgy DC
Dec 13 2005 05:57 AM

That's what I fear --- maybe a little bit off the knee, trimmed to a managable length.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 14 2005 07:22 AM

This was in The Daily News this morning. In some parts, it reads as if it were written by an 11-year-old.


Here's a blast from the past - an excerpt of the Daily News' three-star review of the original "King Kong," reprinted from March 1933.

BY IRENE THIRER

'King Kong," as spectacular a bolt of celluloid as has thrilled movie audiences in a couple of sophisticated seasons, is the product of a number of vivid imaginations. The late Edgar Wallace and Merian C. Cooper conceived the idea. James Creelman and Ruth Rose elaborated on it in the screen treatment. Ernest B. Schoedsack, who always works with Cooper on adventure films, contributed suggestions. And David O. Selznick, as executive producer, spoke his say.

Yesterday's crowded houses at Radio City were held thoroughly engrossed. No hysterical screams were heard, however. The folks took "King Kong" good-naturedly. They often guffawed with sheer delight at the exciting, preposterous situations.

And yet we've got to admit there's a tenseness about "King Kong" which defies you to glance away from the screen.

The human cast takes direction well. But the chief role is essayed by the 65-foot prehistoric monster gorilla, constructed by RKO mechanical experts.

He's encountered in the forests of a far-off island, worshiped by frenzied, painted natives. The reason Robert Armstrong, Fay Wray and Bruce Cabot come in contact with King Kong is that Armstrong portrays a director renowned for the thrill films he brings back from the jungles of the world. He employs Ann Redman [sic] (Miss Wray) as star of the movie. Driscoll (Cabot) is the first mate on the boat which conveys the cinema party to the island.

The savage natives capture Ann and offer her as a golden-haired sacrifice to the great King Kong. He lifts her between two fingers, waves her to and fro, never really harms her, but causes the poor gal to shriek with terror. Don't know how she manages to be as brave as she is. We'd have passed out from dread of the horrible monster! With the aid of gas bombs, the ship's crew dazes Kong, chains him and takes him back to New York to be exhibited.

Disaster! King Kong breaks loose! Kong grabs the beauteous Ann and reaches the top of the Empire State Building.

You don't for one minute have the feeling that there's anything real about "King Kong," but you're constantly entertained. When you leave Radio City, you know you've had a mighty good time! Photographically, by the way, "King Kong" is super-excellent!

Vic Sage
Dec 14 2005 09:22 AM

I can't go till Sunday night.

BWAAAAAH!
(sniff, sniff)

i love the scene in the DeLaurentiis remake where Kong pulls down Lange's dress.

I'm sorry.
It's just the way i am.

Zvon
Dec 14 2005 05:16 PM

I watched the DeLaurentis '76 remake last night (saw the reedited and remastered '33 original afew weeks ago).

But that remake DeLaurentis did was God awful....horrendous..hurlworthy.
He really screwed the pootch with his version.

Sure, Jessica looked yummy.

It was kool to see the World Trade Center again. Kong climbing that is now kind of nostolgic now that its gone.
But when it came out I hated that change.

Elster88
Dec 15 2005 09:11 AM

A good flick. I'm smitten with Naomi Watts.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 15 2005 09:14 AM

That's how I feel about Fay Wray.

I read recently that Fay was going to do a cameo at the end of the new version; she was going to deliver the famous closing line. "It wasn't the planes that killed him. Twas beauty killed the beast."

She died, though, before she could shoot the scene. That would have been very cool.

Willets Point
Dec 15 2005 09:32 AM

" He lifts her between two fingers, waves her to and fro, never really harms her, but causes the poor gal to shriek with terror."

And shriek, and shriek, and continue shrieking without ceasing for the entire film. Wray had some good lungs to shriek so much.

Willets Point
Dec 15 2005 09:35 AM

By the way, is the character name Ann Darrow somehow a tribute to Clarence Darrow of "Monkey Trial" fame or is just coincedence?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 15 2005 09:41 AM

I've always wondered that myself.

I don't know the answer.

Willets Point
Dec 15 2005 12:53 PM

Elster88
Dec 15 2005 01:52 PM

Does the guy on the right have a Pac-Man shirt on?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 18 2005 03:50 PM

Saw it. Loved it. Voted seven bananas. (I have a few quibbles which keep me from going for that last banana.)

MFS62
Dec 19 2005 06:23 AM

Yancy, I've heard there is a "spider" scene.
How long is it?
I want to know how long I'll have to keep my eyes covered.
I hate spiders.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 19 2005 07:55 AM

There were a LOT of giant icky bugs, but I don't recall any spiders. I was too grossed out by the giant leeches.

Elster88
Dec 19 2005 08:01 AM

Seven bananas.

Vic Sage
Dec 19 2005 09:38 AM

5 bananas.
I was slightly disappointed.

It wasn't BAD, by any means. And definitely worth seeing.
Still, a disappointment.

I'll wait a few weeks before i go into details.

Willets Point
Feb 17 2006 05:01 PM

Last night an art theatre in Cambridge showed King Kong (1933) and a second-run cinema in Somerville showed King Kong (2005) so I made it a two city, two theater, two Kong double feature. Very interesting to see where Peter Jackson mimics (or should I say apes) the original and where they difer. I like how the new Kong is the first one that really looks and moves like an gorilla, running swiftly instead of lumbering along, and knuckle-dragging Naomi Watts into a state of dizziness. Neither version makes any explanation about how they got Kong from the South Pacific to New York on that tiny ship, especially since he seems able to break restraints with ease.

Vic Sage
Mar 22 2006 11:16 AM

Here's why i wasn't crazy about it...

The movie divides into 3 acts. The first act, in nyc, is attenuated. We could've gotten to the boat alot sooner. Taking so long to establish Jack Black's desperate motivation still didn't lend any credibility to his subsequent eyebrow-arching self-parodying performance.

Act II, on the boat and the island, is the best part of the movie. The natives, especially, are realistically terrifying. But there are still problems here.

The story has divided the leading man into 3 characters: the sensitive writer, who she's not that hot for, but who ultimately becomes the action hero; the boat captain, who really is the tough guy, but has no real interest in her; and the actor, who only pretends to be a tough guy, but is a coward... until for some reason he saves the day. And he seems more likely to be interested in the boat captain than the girl.

This parsing out of the "leading man" role ends up creating a vacuum filled by the REAL leading man... Kong. In the original, the girl is terrified of the big ape, though there seems some mutual underlying sexual tension in the metaphorical romance. Here, the love is REQUITED. The girl DIGS the big ape! The rediculousness of this conceit (which is the essential artistic statement of the remake) is underlined in the 3rd act, which i'll get to in a moment.

The other problem with act II is that Jackson keeps upping the ante... Kong fights not 1 dinosaur but 3, and they keep hanging on, and the bug attack gets more and more intense, and ... it becomes an exhausting theme park ride. Which sets up another problem in Act III.

Act III, back in nyc... Kong's rampage in nyc is brought to a screeching halt so that he and the girl can go on a romantic idyll... ice-skating in Central Park! I kid you not! What had been once metaphorical or at best implicit has become explicit. It made me laugh out loud. seriously. And that was NOT what the filmmakers were going for right at that moment.

Then, after nearly 3 hours, we're pretty much done, yet we still have to climb the Empire State building. This iconic climax of cinematic history can't help but feel anticlimactic, after all we've already seen. In fact, the movie shot its wad, so to speak, with all the SFX and action in Act II.

There is alot to admire in this movie... the acting (other than Black) is pretty good, the look and feel of the art direction and cinematography outstanding, the realism of Kong a real achievement. Some of the action set-pieces are thrilling.

But the storytelling is long-winded, and the basic premise... turning the unrequited love story into a REQUITED one in which, tragically, the lovers cannot be together... ends up just feeling like a silly idea. Not just silly, but actually and literally laughable.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 22 2006 11:38 AM

Interesting.

First of all, as you may or may not remember, I have an extraordinary love for the 1933 King Kong. I watch it once, and only once a year, every Thanksgiving Day. (Since WOR Channel 9 stopped their Thanksgiving giant ape tradition I had to take matters into my own hands.)

I liked that Ann cared for Kong, as did Jessica Lange's character in the 1976 movie. They didn't need to go ice skating together, of course. But when I first watched the 1933 movie as a kid it bothered me that Fay Wray didn't seem to even understand that Kong loved her. If I was remaking the movie, I would have had the love be requited, but probably much less overtly.

I loved Naomi Watts, by the way. I found myself somehow captivated by her front teeth.

They really screwed up the Carl Denham character, in my opinion. Robert Armstrong played him as a kind of P.T. Barnum, and I loved that. He had that swagger, as seen when they were retreating from their first encounter with the natives. Armstrong tilted his hat at a rakish angle and walked away whistling. He was confident that he could do anything.

Jack Black's version was a filmmaker on the outs who was trying one last time to hit it big. He was more devious and far less likable. I don't know why they made that fundamental change. It really wasn't necessary at all.

The T-Rex battle was over the top, but I got a kick out of it. My favorite moment in the whole film was when the battle was finished and Kong verified that the dinosaur was dead by playing with his broken jaw. It was a nod to the original movie, and was my goosebump moment. In fact, all my favorite moments were the homages to 1933. That tells me that if the 2005 version was the original, I wouldn't have liked it nearly as much as I did. My enjoyment of the 2005 movie was based heavily on my love of the 1933 version; the current film doesn't really stand on its own that well.

I absolutely agree that the movie was too long, and a lot could have been shaved off of what you called the first act. Way too much setup. In 1933 it was, "Hey, I'm making a big movie. I'm gonna find a girl to be the lead and then we're getting on the ship!" Much better that way.

Other disappointments:

The new characterization of the skipper. I loved that he was a seasoned old salt, who knew of every legend on every little island. When they encountered natives that no white man had ever seen, Captain Englehorn knew their language.

It also struck me as dumb that Denham didn't even know anything about the legend of Kong. Why was he so fired up about going to that island if he didn't have a sense of what he'd find there. Again, back to Robert Armstrong, when he's briefing Englehorn and Driscoll after they've set sail: "Gentlemen, have you ever heard of... Kong?" He describes the island, the wall ("something they fear"). He was brash, he was bold, he was cocky. Not snivelly like Jack Black.

But some of the homages that I liked: The dialog being rehearsed on the ship was verbatim from Jack and Ann's conversation in 1933. The Kong stage show, back in New York, was lifted from the actual island ceremony in the 1933 film. Same music, same costumes, everything.

It also made sense that Denham would bring along more than one actress and a bunch of sailors. This time around, he had cameramen, a lead actor, a sound guy, a screenwriter. We probably spent too much time getting to know them, but it was reasonable that they were there.

There's probably more that I could say, but I saw the movie three months ago, and have probably forgotten some of my initial impressions. I will buy the DVD when it comes out, and if upon a second viewing I remember more of what I planned to say, I'll return here.

Vic Sage
Mar 22 2006 02:29 PM

It is the unrequitedness of the love that gives the original its heartbreaking quality. Ann Darrow just doesn't get it... or does she? Methinks the lady dost protest too much... like many Hollywood films of that era, KING KONG had an underlying sexual tension that is much more interesting than the more explicit, overstated relationship portrayed in the remake.

as to much else you liked in the remake, it seems mostly the moments that were referencing the original, rather than anything original to this version. which damns it with faint praise.

unlike the original, which i'd happily watch once a year till i die, i have very little interest in watching this one again.

Edgy DC
Apr 19 2006 10:50 PM

I was underwhelmed. For most of the reasons Vic says, only moreso.

Centerfield
May 08 2006 09:46 AM

I saw it this weekend...and was pleasantly surprised. I had been told that it sucked. That it was long and drawn out and badly in need of an editor. I still think it needed an editor, but it wasn't that bad. A couple of thoughts....

*The first hour where they were in NY needed the editor more than any other parts of the film. Ann's desperation, Denham's desperation...all of that could have been done a lot more succinctly. It's weird. After cramming all of LOTR into those nice, streamlined movies, it's almost like Jackson decided (starting with the last 45 minutes of Return of the King) "Oh fuck it, I'm going to be indulgent." I mean really, how many "You can't do this Mr. Denham, you don't have papers" scenes did we need?

*The second hour of the film, as Norrin says, was the best part of the movie...and I thought it was fantastic. From the boat ride, the terrifying natives, the no-nonsense captain, the introduction of Kong, I thought it was great. And yes, it did go a little over the top with the brontosaurus stampede, leading to the cliff scene, leading to the T-Rex scene, followed by the bug scene, but even if it wandered into ridiculousness for a while, it was still fun. Although at one point, I couldn't help but wonder why 3 T-Rexes would fight so hard for Naomi Watts considering she is like a Tic Tac to them. Especially if they have to split her amongst the three of them? Aren't there a bunch of freshly killed/lame brontosauruses lying around? These are the worst predators ever.

*There were lots of interesting characters, though most of them were not developed and just kind of leave you wondering. The relationship between the black sea dude and the kid...Denham's assistant...the sea captain...how the actor buy was a weenie, then brave, then a weenie again. There was potential there in all these characters but Jackson just chose to touch upon all of them rather than develop any of them. Also, I thought the acting went back and forth from stylized to realistic to stylized again.

*Adrien Brody was much better than I thought he would be. I'm still not convinced he could have navigated his way around the island by himself, but he was likeable and otherwise believable. You can't help but feel bad for him when he shows up to rescue Ann and Ann gives him this look like "Well, this is kind of awkward, but I'm seeing someone else."

*The last part back in New York was pretty much a disappointment. Like Norrin, I thought it got a bit silly when all of the mayhem stopped while Kong and Ann went frolicing in the park. For what it's worth, Naomi Watts did a good job with this scene...and I thought that was the only thing that kept me from actually groaning or laughing. Adrien Brody's character's involvement in this last part is weird too. I'm not sure what he's trying to accomplish, or why he's even there...it's just confusing.

*The climax on the Empire State Building was nothing like I thought it would be. It wasn't exciting at all, just kind of sad. And maybe Jackson knew he couldn't top the thrill ride he gave us on the island so he took it in a different direction. Anyway, it was just a sad end to a roller coaster of a movie.

Six Bananas.

Benjamin Grimm
May 08 2006 09:56 AM

I don't think I mentioned this earlier, but I was strangely captivated by Naomi Watts' front teeth. On the big screen, they were enormous, but somehow enthralling.

Centerfield
May 08 2006 10:37 AM

That's weird. I noticed her teeth too...and I never notice teeth. First I was like, is she buc-toothed? Then I realized she wasn't, but that they were nice.

Elster88
May 08 2006 10:44 AM

She is Pretty.

Centerfield
May 08 2006 11:59 AM

Watts fans should watch Mulholland Drive.

Elster88
May 08 2006 12:15 PM

Done.

21 Grams, too.