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Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!

Johnny Dickshot Nov 29 2005 07:47 AM

I wanted to read about the Mets getting Nady -- I wound up reading about Manny. I wanted to read about Delgado -- got Manny. Wagner? Manny. Manny Manny Manny. I'm f'ing sick of Manny.

KC Nov 29 2005 07:58 AM

"They dropped the fuckin' ball on Vlad, the least they can do is bring in Manny" was what one caustic fucktard loudly told me at the gas station yesterday. Yelled it to me across the pumps, we both had Mets hats on.

Elster88 Nov 29 2005 09:20 AM

It wasn't me, I swear.

Edgy DC Nov 29 2005 09:22 AM

If Manny Ramirez is the least the Mets can do....

Yancy Street Gang Nov 29 2005 09:41 AM

Centerfield Nov 29 2005 09:44 AM

Holy crap! The Mets are interested in Manny?

Frayed Knot Nov 29 2005 09:45 AM

Met fans have a new white whale to chase. Beltran, Delgado, Pedro & Wagner within a 12 month span just doesn't quite scratch that 'I wanna BIG name' itch enough.

Iubitul Nov 29 2005 09:50 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: Met fans have a new white whale to chase. Beltran, Delgado, Pedro & Wagner within a 12 month span just doesn't quite scratch that 'I wanna BIG name' itch enough. I'm starting to feel like a Yankee fan.... I need to take a shower now....

Willets Point Nov 29 2005 11:09 AM

Did we get Manny yet?

sharpie Nov 29 2005 11:10 AM

MFY fan in the hall just asked me if Mets were getting both Manny and Soriano.

Yancy Street Gang Nov 29 2005 11:12 AM

Shouldn't that be Manny, Soriano, and Molina?

Elster88 Nov 29 2005 11:16 AM

The hell with it...Pujols can play the outfield right? Let's get him too.

sharpie Nov 29 2005 11:23 AM

Molina is not a big enough name. Pudge Rodriguez should be the catcher.

Edgy DC Nov 29 2005 11:27 AM

Pujols can play third after we move Wright.in the Vazquez deal.

Rotblatt Nov 29 2005 11:35 AM

Don't forget about Zito, Vazquez & Hoffman, guys. I figure our lineup will be: Reyes Beltran Delgado Manny Floyd Wright Soriano Molina & our rotation will be: Pedro Zito Glavine Vazquez Benson with a pen of: Wagner, Hoffman, Robo, Heilman, Zambrano & Seo

sharpie Nov 29 2005 11:36 AM

Pudge, dammit, not Molina.

Edgy DC Nov 29 2005 11:40 AM

Back to business, this article is two years old and dug out of a cache, but has just about all I need to know about Wagner. Well, a picture of his wife for the album would be nice.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 11 2005 12:41 PM

Ken Davidoff: CPF Wannabe. ] Man oh Manny, Minaya, forget this guy already! Ken Davidoff Baseball December 11, 2005 Sixteen weeks and a day to go until the Mets kick off 2006 with a home game against the Nationals, which means there's time for at least 12 more incarnations of the Manny Ramirez trade discussions. Manny for Aaron Heilman, Lastings Milledge and Brian Bannister ... Manny for Carlos Beltran and $20 million ... Manny for Kris Benson, Chris Woodward and a "Seinfeld" Season 4 DVD ... Manny, Manny, Manny. You can get a pre-emptive headache just thinking about what lies ahead. So here are some holiday shopping tips for Omar Minaya, who clearly regards Manny as his great conquest, his personal Moby Dick: Give it up. Focus on your bullpen. Don't fall into the same trap as the 2002-05 Yankees. For the moment, things have cooled on the Manny front. As Red Sox senior adviser Bill Lajoie - about 1,000 times more forthcoming than Theo "No, I won't comment on what day of the week it is" Epstein - said Thursday at the winter meetings, "Manny, we were close [to a trade] in our minds before we came here, but not in actuality. We felt we'd be able to do it here, but we weren't." The Mets, meanwhile, having doled out just about $100 million in commitments to Carlos Delgado, Billy Wagner, Paul Lo Duca and reserves Julio Franco and Jose Valentin, clearly want to rest before making another huge expenditure. Or, at least, trade Benson and Kaz Matsui. But you can set your watch to it: Be it in the days ahead or after the holidays, Minaya, as long as he has access to a telephone, will check in once again with the Red Sox on Manny, just to hear the latest asking price. Because of what Minaya already has accomplished this offseason, Ramirez should be his last priority. Offense is no longer a problem for the Mets, thanks to the arrival of Delgado, who figures to provide lineup and spotlight protection for Beltran in addition to serving as a mammoth upgrade over Doug Mientkiewicz. Yes, the Mets' starting rotation could use some help, but not from Javier Vazquez, who struggled greatly for the Diamondbacks last season, and not with a Milledge-for-Barry Zito swap; I'd rather see Milledge as the leftfielder in 2007. The rotation is good enough now to make the playoffs, but with a front end of Pedro Martinez and Tom Glavine, neither of whom reaches the eighth inning anymore, they're going to need a deep bullpen to build a bridge to Wagner. How about signing Ricardo Rincon and Rudy Seanez? Even if the bullpen gets staffed sufficiently and Matsui finds a new home, Minaya should view what happened to the Yankees these past few years. From 2002 until May of last season, the Yankees kept adding All-Star after All-Star to their lineup and pitching staff, boosting their payroll past the $200-million mark. Little consideration was given to the notion that a good team exceeds the sum of its parts. And you know what happened. The Yankees, for all of their regular-season success, haven't been able to navigate through an entire October, their huge payroll advantage notwithstanding. They haven't clicked as a unit, committing memorable defensive gaffes, making bad pitches, failing in the clutch. The 2004 Red Sox had enough team-first guys to allow Manny to be Manny. Maybe the 2006 Mets would, too, but it's not a risk worth taking. There already is a pair of star players here in Delgado and Beltran. And at Shea Stadium, Ramirez's warts would stand out more. Suddenly, he would have far more real estate to patrol than he does at tiny Fenway Park. "If the Mets get Manny Ramirez," one American League scout observed, "he'll be the first outfielder sponsored by OnStar." He'll need help finding his way around. When you commit yourself to Ramirez, an AL general manager observed recently, "You sell your soul a little bit." No matter how much he hits, it still takes something out of a team when Ramirez vanishes mentally for a week. The Mets don't need his offense badly enough to tolerate those disappearing acts, or the additional strain on their payroll and farm system. They need to think small. One day at a time toward Opening Day, like a quitting smoker, Minaya must stay Manny-free. It's the Mets' best chance for complete success.

metirish Dec 11 2005 12:44 PM

That was good, I like Davidoff.

cleonjones11 Dec 11 2005 12:59 PM

Please don't trade Lastings Milledge...unless new rape chardes are filed..oh heck..we have Ramon Castro so lets just keep Milledge..

Edgy DC Dec 11 2005 02:02 PM

Easy. Were there old rape charges? I don't think that's what we've got.

Nymr83 Dec 11 2005 03:00 PM

i dont think he was ever charged, and i hate the public's presumption that suspected rapists are guilty when most other suspects are innocent until proven guilty. unless Milledge is indicted for something i don't even need to hear about that junk