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Tom Gordon signs with Philly

abogdan Dec 02 2005 12:53 AM

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2244420]3 years, $18 million.[/url] Wow, the market for relief pitchers is nuts. In a world where Scott Eyre gets an $11 million contract, I guess this is a decent deal. But in a world where you don't sign 38-year old relievers to three year contracts, this is nuts.

Elster88 Dec 02 2005 02:14 AM

It's amazing how much better the deals for Wagner, Delgado, and, dare I say it, Beltran are looking every day. But the Mets' ownership is completely brainless, as we all know, so there must be something I'm missing.

Nymr83 Dec 02 2005 02:15 AM

apples and oranged with the position players, but this makes the Wagner deal look good and even the BJ Ryan deal look pretty sane.

Elster88 Dec 02 2005 02:17 AM

Nymr83 wrote: apples and oranged with the position players, but this makes the Wagner deal look good and even the BJ Ryan deal look pretty sane. It's not apples and oranges at all. At the end of the day, there is a budget and a roster. My team spent 13 million a year on Delgado and yours spent 6 million a year on Tom Gordon. Who did better? Would you trade Delgado for two Tom Gordons? The Phillies' new contract says they have the same value.

smg58 Dec 02 2005 02:27 AM

It's not out of line with the other relievers' contracts so far. And Gordon did put up some great numbers the past two seasons over a lot of innings. Of course, the possibility exists that he emptied his tank, so caveat emptor. But there are still a couple of good relievers out on the market. Somebody is going to wind up with a bargain.

Edgy DC Dec 02 2005 07:58 AM

Roberto Hernandez is going to be interesting. At the beginning of the offseason, you'd've thought we could re-up him easy at one year/one mill. Now he's maybe looking at something like six mills over two if his agent plays the field right.

seawolf17 Dec 02 2005 08:17 AM

Which means you say "Thanks, Bert, but we've decided to go another direction."

Yancy Street Gang Dec 02 2005 09:22 AM

I can imagine how frustrated the Phillies fans must be. They were so reluctant to offer three years to a 34-year-old Billy Wagner, but now they end up giving three to a 38-year-old Tom Gordon. If Bret thinks the Mets are inept, he should try being a Phillies fan for a few years.

Frayed Knot Dec 02 2005 09:25 AM

They also devliver their 1st round draft pick to the MFYs for the 2nd consect year (Jon Leiber last year). Of course they're getting ours instead so they actually make out a bit in the long run draft-wise.

silverdsl Dec 02 2005 01:34 PM

Gordon was decent for the Yankees the past couple of seasons but if it was going to take a three-year deal to bring him back I'm glad the Yankees passed. I highly doubt he'll still be as effective as he is now at 41.

Frayed Knot Dec 02 2005 01:59 PM

Well you've just inked his replacement, as word comes down just now that Farnsworth is officially in the Yanqui camp for 3yrs @ $17mil - having apparently turned down 4/$21 from Texas.

Elster88 Dec 02 2005 02:02 PM

3 years of Tom Gordon and Kyle Farnsworth: $35 million dollars 3 years of Carlos Delgado: $42.8 million dollars (including tax) Being a Met fan in 2006 and extending a cyber middle finger to bandwagon jumpers: priceless

Johnny Dickshot Dec 02 2005 02:03 PM

Farnsworth is a juiced-up mongoloid thug -- he should fit right in.

Nymr83 Dec 02 2005 02:28 PM

the drafr pick thing is interesting too, i'm ok with losing mine to sign Wagner, but to sign a 38 year old Gordon for 3 years? i might have held onto that 1st rounder.

sharpie Dec 02 2005 02:41 PM

Where's the source on the Farnsworth signing?

metirish Dec 02 2005 02:44 PM

probably this big fella...

HahnSolo Dec 02 2005 02:55 PM

One of our primary division competitors just signed Tom Gordon to be their closer. That should be cause for celebration in these quarters.

metirish Dec 02 2005 03:32 PM

[url=http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spyanks1203,0,4383162.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines]Proof that Fransworth signed for the MFY's[/url]

OlerudOwned Dec 02 2005 03:39 PM

I could've sworn that before this offseason the only 2 things Farnsworth was known for was throwing really hard and beating the piss out of people in brawls. Now he's an (almost) 8 million dollar a year set-up man? What a country. Actually, he did have a really good season (sans the meltdown against Houston). But he isnt the most stable pitcher around, and him vs. Manny (possibly) and Ortiz will probably lead to MFY-ExplodyHead syndrome.

Centerfield Dec 02 2005 03:43 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 02 2005 03:44 PM

What an unbelievable market for so-so middle relievers. That's it...I'm teaching my son to pitch middle relief and not be that good at it.

metirish Dec 02 2005 03:43 PM

Tanyon Sturtze should ask for a raise.....

OlerudOwned Dec 02 2005 03:44 PM

Centerfield wrote: One an unbelievable market for so-so middle relievers. That's it...I'm teaching my son to pitch middle relief and not be that good at it. Is he lefty? He'll be worth even more

sharpie Dec 02 2005 03:50 PM

]Now he's an (almost) 8 million dollar a year set-up man? What a country . 3 years for $17 million is less than $6 million a year, not almost $8 million. Still, a lot of money and I'd gladly work for that rate.

OlerudOwned Dec 02 2005 03:56 PM

sharpie wrote: ]Now he's an (almost) 8 million dollar a year set-up man? What a country . 3 years for $17 million is less than $6 million a year, not almost $8 million. Still, a lot of money and I'd gladly work for that rate. I meant 6, my bad. Its hard thinking right after school.

seawolf17 Dec 02 2005 03:57 PM

sharpie wrote: 3 years for $17 million is less than $6 million a year, not almost $8 million. Still, a lot of money and I'd gladly work for that rate. Perhaps you need to give Bean Stringfellow a call next time you're up for review.

sharpie Dec 02 2005 04:01 PM

Salary review here is at the end of the year. Bean'll have to do some fast talking to get me that $6 million.

ScarletKnight41 Dec 02 2005 04:21 PM

MK won the Rolaids Relief Man award on his Little League Fall Ball team this spring. He's the LOOGY of the future!

Elster88 Dec 02 2005 04:24 PM

Little League has Rolaids Relief Awards? They didn't even let us keep score when I was playing. So much for diffusing competitiveness and playing for the fun of the game.

ScarletKnight41 Dec 02 2005 04:25 PM

No, but D-Dad coached the team, and he gave out the awards to all the kids at the end of the season. MK was great at stranding inherited runners :)

Centerfield Dec 02 2005 05:51 PM

Word has it that MK throws a mean resin bag as well.