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Spacemans Bong Dec 02 2005 02:53 PM

Ever seen Andrew Clem's website? He draws very detailed diagrams of ballparks. Par example: Here's the original home of the Mets: And for Dodger fans: So, I challenge thee to a draw-off. The bestest, most coolest new Met stadium designed in the Clemsian fashion.

Zvon Dec 02 2005 09:51 PM

Ill give this a go Spaceman. Just gimme a week or two to make one.

Frayed Knot Dec 03 2005 07:09 AM

No wonder why Ralph still gets damp whenever Ebbets Field is mentioned.

Edgy DC Dec 03 2005 02:03 PM

Is the red dot at Shea the apple?

Edgy DC Dec 03 2005 02:04 PM

Here's mine...

MFS62 Dec 03 2005 02:28 PM

I used to draw baseball stadia in good ol' pencil. A sports caroonist named Willard Mullin had a book of his hand drawings of all the stadia, with cartoons that showed famous moments in each. Mullin's books got me interested in drawing them myself. My favorites to draw were Forbes Field and Candlestick park. I never could get Crosley Field right. I stopped doing it when all those oval multi-purpose places looked alike. Edgy, if you draw that, they will come. That was beautiful, man. Later

Zvon Dec 03 2005 03:23 PM

MFS62 wrote: A sports caroonist named Willard Mullin had a book of his hand drawings of all the stadia, with cartoons that showed famous moments in each. Mullin's books got me interested in drawing them myself. I loved his stuff. Those were fun to look at. I love that stadium drawing Edge but its not very Clemsian,lol. I started this thing, but Im stuck. I was thinkin along the lines of something like the pic you put up DC. Design wise. Now, does anyone know for sure where the Mets hope or plan to build the new stadium? Cuz Im always reading the city block type architecture layout. I started one within a rectangle, but it dont look right........... Once i get past that I should be able to put something together. Or someone give me a block or a shape and Ill create it within it. Alls I need is a starting point and this will be fun to do.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 03 2005 03:32 PM

I think the dot is the apple. It's in the right place and all.

seawolf17 Dec 03 2005 04:23 PM

I think Edgy cheated.

DocTee Dec 03 2005 05:16 PM

Or someone give me a block or a shape and Ill create it within it. How's about a diamond?

Edgy DC Dec 03 2005 05:24 PM

Edgy cheated so patently that it makes me sick that it took five posts to call me out. OK, here we go. The most obvious feature of Il Stade d'Edgy is that the outfield bleachers are so far off that they'll only be reached once a decade, by a mutant with the wind at his back. This is a variation on the open-stadium concept I've pitched to little success. The bleachers here would be even harder to reach by being suspended on large columns 25 feet in the air. The way to hit for power in this park is to drive the ball --- past the outfielders, over them and betwixt them --- then run, you lazy bum, as the ball just. Keeps. Going. I've stuck some dots to show where typical outfielders might be positioned. I think that would be medium-deep. With the raised bleachers, the ball could continue under the seats, still in play as it rolls into the parkland behind. This is the way we played in my Babe Ruth League, and it's more action-filled and exciting. Instead of umberhulks like Jim Thome jogging around the bases, they'd have to haul it as fast as their tree limbs could carry them, with the prospect of one outfielder going under the bleachers and relaying it to a second one before it gets in to an infielder in an attempt to catch the wheezing sluggers. Another advantage of the superduper-deep bleachers is being able to feature other on-field features deep in the outfield. You can see the visitor bullpen under the display scoreboard in left-center --- their bench is under the bleachers and the flagpole to the right of the scoreboard, with the home bullpen in right-center, shaded by a single lonesome tree, a tree that will come to be seen as almost sacred by the home afficianados. While seeming like hazards, they can be expected --- like the bleachers above them --- to come into play only about once or twice a decade. While those bleacher seats would be far far away, hopefully the novelty will stick some fannies up there. They'd definitely be the cheapies and the giveaways, and once a decade, somebody would get a very special souvienier. Here's a frontal view of the bleachers with some bad perspective.

Zvon Dec 03 2005 06:53 PM

DocTee wrote: Or someone give me a block or a shape and Ill create it within it. How's about a diamond? lmao.....thatll work. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO. I luv it Edge. That is classic. The tree,HA! And yer right...playin in the CYO I led my team in homers one year and never hit one over a wall or fence during a game. All were over their heads or gappers, and nothin to stop em. Led the team with 3 Kaboomers in '71, Im proud to say. lol.

Edgy DC Dec 03 2005 07:02 PM

That's frontier baseball.

Zvon Dec 07 2005 03:04 PM

Im almost done should have it up soon. what do u guys wanna name this stadium? I can think of afew possiblities, but im sure the actual name will involve money more than Met history.

Zvon Dec 07 2005 07:46 PM

Im sure the outfield fence demensions arent accurate to scale, but I was more concerned with using numbers more significant to us Met fans. The 329 down the RF line does not apply to that effort.

metirish Dec 07 2005 07:54 PM

Any link to help us?

Zvon Dec 07 2005 08:01 PM

metirish wrote: Any link to help us? ....link to what?

metirish Dec 07 2005 08:11 PM

Clems work, does he have a website?

Zvon Dec 08 2005 05:16 PM

metirish wrote: Clems work, does he have a website? I assume he does. Ask spaceman. Im curious as well.

OlerudOwned Dec 08 2005 06:01 PM

http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/index.shtml

Zvon Dec 08 2005 08:37 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/index.shtml thanks OO. Im bookmarkin that. *Z goes to see if theres a section for imaginary stadiums

Zvon Dec 08 2005 08:40 PM

.....i expected some basklash on sticking the Shea apple out in the playground area so kids can climb on it. And when someone hits a homer (they cant see the game from back there) it pops up and all the kids go flying.

Edgy DC Dec 08 2005 08:45 PM

Nice work. Is that like a triptych scoreboard in center or are ther bleachers there as well?

Zvon Dec 08 2005 09:04 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Nice work. Is that like a triptych scoreboard in center or are ther bleachers there as well? if you mean does it face 3 ways,yes. and its huge and has everything. 3 Diamond vision screens, one facing each and they can be linked for a panoramic view. And those are seats on top.

Edgy DC Dec 08 2005 09:14 PM

Won't it be a littl tough a hitting background?

Zvon Dec 08 2005 09:24 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Won't it be a littl tough a hitting background? yep...ill have to work on that. lol

metsmarathon Dec 09 2005 02:05 PM

i call it... pinball alley. i love big walls, and i love corners wherein drives down the line can scoot along the outfield fence. its also got spacious gaps, to boot! critique away.

Zvon Dec 09 2005 02:32 PM

I absolutely love it m.m. Good job. Pinball alley....BRILLIANT! ..and funny. Im having a constrution crew raise my scoreboard and add a black backdrop underneath. The entire scoreboard goes totally black before a pitch. Im sure this will be screwed up from time to time , but the techs will be trained only to do it when the visitor is at bat in crucial situations..

Elster88 Dec 09 2005 02:34 PM

Hopefully Diaz will not be patrolling right when Pinball Alley is constructed.

Zvon Dec 09 2005 02:41 PM

Elster88 wrote: Hopefully Diaz will not be patrolling right when Pinball Alley is constructed. If he is I hope he wears bells on his shoes.

metsmarathon Dec 09 2005 03:50 PM

i think i need to make a change to the stadium... and i really wish i brought the visio file home with me for the weekend... (yeah, i drew it to scale in microsoft visio - what of it!). in my concept sketch, i had the concourse and monster wall at more of an oblique angle, and the bleachers came in more towards the field. basically what i wanna have happen is balls hitthe wall and carom off into the bleachers for a homerun. with teh angling the way it is, they'd more likely just come off the wall roughly parallel to the back fence. and while that would be wicked to play, its just not interesting enough - or as much potential fun for the fans out there. i also need to throw some more thought into my stands, as i have no upper deck, and i don't think i have a good enough seating arrangement. i rushed it at the end after i was mostly happy with the outfield fences and pinball alley.

Edgy DC Dec 09 2005 07:50 PM

It's good stuff. I drew mine with MS Paint, so... Where's your scoreboard? What sort of retail? If the team goes into an attendance slump, will the depression affect the retail row? Will there be a pawn shop? Perhaps a storefront guerrilla theatre company?

metsmarathon Dec 09 2005 08:01 PM

i'm thinking banana republic, maybe a container store, and a specialty running store. oh, and of course a starbucks and panera. the restaurant of course would be open year round, and the stadium would help to anchor a fancy new retail/commercial/entertainment district by bringing fans to the stores, and customers to the games. that sort of thing. and yeah, i'm lacking some of the more stadiumly details. they'll come along, of course!

Zvon Dec 11 2005 09:44 PM

lol@ above^ scoreboard update. I nixed the seats on top 4 now. They can be added or I could put the NY skyline kinda thing up there,.....I dunno. and right before a pitch (in real life no one would go for this, I dont think):

Spacemans Bong Dec 12 2005 08:06 PM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2005 08:21 PM

I'm a lazy flake, so I didn't draw a NEW met stadium per se, but I'll put up some other ones I've done. An "inspired by Ebbets Field" park, for a Brooklyn team: When the Giants come back.. This could be the new Met stadium. If..gasp..the Red Sox leave Fenway Park: >

Spacemans Bong Dec 12 2005 08:08 PM

Damn that Polo Grounds one is small. I like that one the best!

Zvon Dec 12 2005 10:28 PM

those are excellent SB. hey! this whole gig was your idea and no new Met one? forrrrr shame.

Methead Dec 13 2005 07:23 AM

Those are great, Spaceman.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 13 2005 07:39 AM

I think all of 'em rock. But the Mets have announced another ticket price increase and they have 55,000 seats to sell. Take away 20,000 of them and a game will really shoot beyond the means of Johnny Lunchbucket. Even if they suck, I'd like to see 8 or 10,000 "cheap seats" in a new Shea park. Doesn't Meathead do this stuff for a living? Get to work!

Willets Point Dec 13 2005 09:03 AM

This is a fun thread. I used to draw baseball parks in pencil when I was in junior high, often doodle them in my notebooks when I was bored in class. My parks had odd nooks and crannies and unique ways of adapting them to be multi-purpose stadia (won't Edgy be happy I didn't write stadiums!).

Methead Dec 13 2005 09:03 AM

I know, I know. This thread had me real excited when Spaceman started it... then I realized I don't have the time I'd like to spend on it. I'll get to it eventually...

Spacemans Bong Dec 13 2005 04:19 PM

I'm hard at work on a new Met stadium.

Zvon Dec 13 2005 04:46 PM

...if anyones interested I can provide a bare bones image of a baseball field to build your stadium around. Ive already done that work so it wouldnt take much to provide a generic field that you can add or subtract from, then build around. You could use it in anything from MSpaint to AdobePhotoshop or PaintShopPro. Where you make changes to field shape (id provide just a standard Shea like shaped field), just line and color using the tools provided. (Like to fill in changes to the grass section of the field, match the green used with the dropper and flood fill or air brush in.)

Spacemans Bong Dec 13 2005 05:22 PM

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Rockin' Doc Dec 13 2005 06:02 PM

Awesome work Spaceman! I particularly like the name of your field and stadium. The statues surrounding the park are a wonderful and fitting tribute to the Mets past.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 13 2005 06:09 PM

nice.

ScarletKnight41 Dec 13 2005 07:12 PM

Very nice SB :)

Zvon Dec 13 2005 09:34 PM

thats freakin awsum dude!

Edgy DC Dec 14 2005 07:26 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 14 2005 10:47 AM

Trying to add up three near-legends in one statue may be seen as something of a jerry-rigging of history. Casey Stengel might be a more appropriate figure --- or at least represent the early years --- better than Mr. Met. Besides, Mr. Met lives and performs yet; he needs no statue. The '86 combo is still a pretty good idea. Like many other good things, though, it may have to wait until Dwight Gooden reconciles with the Mets and with a goood portion of society. Some great concepts, though.

Centerfield Dec 14 2005 10:45 AM

I love it Spaceman. I might be in the minority here, but I hate little crevices and short walls and all the other stuff designed to give "character".

Spacemans Bong Dec 14 2005 11:32 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Trying to add up three near-legends in one statue may be seen as something of a jerry-rigging of history. Casey Stengel might be a more appropriate figure --- or at least represent the early years --- better than Mr. Met. Besides, Mr. Met lives and performs yet; he needs no statue. The '86 combo is still a pretty good idea. Like many other good things, though, it may have to wait until Dwight Gooden reconciles with the Mets and with a goood portion of society. Some great concepts, though. I'm sure Hernandez, Carter and Gooden met on the mound many a time, and there's probably pictures of it to base a statue on.

Edgy DC Dec 14 2005 11:35 AM

Well, my point wasn't that the scene doesn't exist in history.

seawolf17 Dec 14 2005 11:35 AM

The other problem with that statue (besides the fact that nobody should want to immortalize Doc) is that a "mound conference" statue would suck, because they'd be facing each other. Can we make a statue of this? It would just float in the air.

Edgy DC Dec 15 2005 09:58 AM

This belongs in the baseball forum.

Centerfield Dec 15 2005 10:05 AM

Who's the mystery Met hugging Mora?

Edgy DC Dec 15 2005 10:22 AM

Lenny Harris, I believe.

G-Fafif Dec 15 2005 10:59 AM

Centerfield wrote: Who's the mystery Met hugging Mora? Roger Cedeno. It's 1999 NLCS Game 4 and Oly has just chased them both home with a single to take the lead.

G-Fafif Dec 15 2005 11:02 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The '86 combo is still a pretty good idea. Except that it took place on the road, what about KH, GC and JO going over their options in NCLS Game 6? At least we know that that mound conference led to good things. Adding my overexcited cheering for the Spaceman's design. You can't tell, but I'm jumping up and down.

Edgy DC Dec 15 2005 11:11 AM

One thing I can say about the Mr. Met statue is that from the arial angle, it should look just about exactly like Bong drew it.