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Nymr83
Nov 25 2005 04:22 PM

I'm always looking for more leagues and they just aren't satisfying when you are playing against random yahoos from yahoo that stop paying attention the 2nd week of May.
I'm starting this thread to gauge interest in either a cheap ($10-$20 per person) or free league consisting of only members of this forum.
we'd run the league with yahoo or some other free service and worry about the rules once we see who wants in...

metsmarathon
Nov 25 2005 06:02 PM

hey, i was in a mofo fantasy baseball league last year, stopped paying attention altogether between may and late september, and won the darned thing outright. the only time i payed attention was the last week of the final round of playoffs. i practically led most of the year.

if its free, i'll be in. and pay more attention.

smg58
Nov 25 2005 07:02 PM

I'm interested if it's free.

Valadius
Nov 25 2005 08:58 PM

I've done Yahoo Fantasy Baseball for years, and it's wonderful. I'm in.

metirish
Nov 25 2005 09:06 PM

I'm in either for free or the money one, I finished third this past season in my yahoo league,I would really love to have a league for people on this forum, good idea Nymr83.

Zvon
Nov 25 2005 10:33 PM

Im in. Ill try and get my brothers involved in one here, if we lack for teams.
(we will probly always do our 4 team family one too)

Rotblatt
Nov 26 2005 06:45 AM

I'm in.

Would we do NL only or MLB?

GYC
Nov 26 2005 08:06 AM

I'm in if it's free.

abogdan
Nov 26 2005 09:14 AM

Can never have enough fantasy baseball leagues. Count me in for a free Yahoo league.

OlerudOwned
Nov 26 2005 10:09 AM

If its free or cheap ($10 and under), I'm in.

Nymr83
Nov 26 2005 11:16 AM

Rotblatt wrote:
Would we do NL only or MLB?


one of the many things we'll have to decide once we know who is in, of course if we get more than say 12 or 14 teams this would pretty much be decided for us (we'd need both leagues)

Kong76
Nov 26 2005 12:51 PM

I haven't been in one for years. It might be fun to have a CPF though.

Edgy DC
Nov 26 2005 02:07 PM

Shall I create a subforum?

PatchyFogg
Nov 26 2005 03:06 PM

I'm in.

How 'bout no Yankees or Braves allowed?

Kong76
Nov 26 2005 04:26 PM

That would be a fun and interesting twist - might even get a few more to
want to give it a whirl.

Valadius
Nov 26 2005 04:47 PM

MLB only is a must. Trust me.

On edit: And yes, Edgy, go ahead and create a subforum.

TheOldMole
Nov 26 2005 05:40 PM

I'm in.

Nymr83
Nov 27 2005 12:10 AM

KC wrote:
That would be a fun and interesting twist - might even get a few more to
want to give it a whirl.


(in response to no yankees/braves)

sounds good to me, it would have to be on an honor system though, because yahoo wont let you specify no players from given teams (some of the advanced [read: expensive] sites will)

Kong76
Nov 27 2005 08:55 AM

I poked around Yahoo, when does the baseball stuff start showing up in
the fantasy sports section? Or is it there and I'm just missing it?

Nymr83
Nov 27 2005 10:22 AM

around the time pitchers and catchers report

Elster88
Nov 27 2005 10:44 AM

I'm interested.

Might be a little tricky incorporating the no Yankee/Brave rule. Since the Yankees are always trading for the best players mid-season, someone could end up with one of their top picks on the Yankees.

cooby
Nov 27 2005 10:55 AM

I would like to join this (if free).

Last year on my fantasy team, I had all Mets, with some additional players from the Red Sox and Indians, but I'll bet you won't let me have all the Mets, will you?


I think if enough people join, we won't be able to leave out yankees and Braves.

I'll warn you, I don't trade! :)

Valadius
Nov 27 2005 04:06 PM

I'll be more than happy to set this up. I know the ins and outs of Yahoo Fantasy Baseball, and I highly recommend it.

Kong76
Nov 27 2005 04:15 PM

Well, so long as you don't steal nymr's thunder. It sounds like maybe you
two could be co-commish's.

Last time I participated in anything like this it was done by email on 14400
baud modem.

We have a lot of time, can someone describe briefly what we are going to do?
Besides the obvious.

Nymr83
Nov 27 2005 04:36 PM

not sure exactly what you mean, we'll need to decide on rules (roster sizes, scoring system, draft method, etc) i guess by voting once we know who is playing.

Kong76
Nov 27 2005 05:04 PM

You explained it, I was afraid that maybe I didn't know some givens ... but
there aren't any. Thx.

DocTee
Nov 27 2005 05:05 PM

I'd be interested, but it looks like my job is going to take me out-of-the country for eight weeks next summer, with limited internet access.

Nymr83
Nov 27 2005 05:17 PM

Edgy, if you'd like to start a sub-forum for us that would probably help, i'd hate to clog the main forum with multiple threads

DocTee, if you'd like to participate you can set your team to allow the commisioner to make changes, in which case while you are gone we could replace any injury you may suffer with a guy from your bench or the "best" available player (by yahoo rankings.)

DocTee
Nov 27 2005 05:28 PM

That'd be great, NYMR-- if you need an additional owner to flesh out the league, count me in!

Matt Murdock, Esq.
Nov 27 2005 06:17 PM

as attorney for Mr. Vic Sage, he's authorized me to pledge his cooperation in a free Yahoo fantasy league, with or without Yanks/Braves.

Diamond Dad
Nov 27 2005 07:19 PM
fantasy league

I'm in, as long as I don't have to be commish. I've been in fantasy leagues for the last 18 years or so, and I've seen lots of variations, but never seen a league ban players from particular teams. Would be interesting, especially if (a) your guy gets traded to the Yankees, or (b) if the Yankees trade away a stud during the season and he becomes a free agent. Seems like it would be hard to deal with, but if I'm not in charge, I'm all for it.

Nymr83
Nov 27 2005 07:26 PM

if the yankees traded a guy away i suppose we could give him to the last place team or just say once he's a yankee he's out for the year, alternatively we could just not ban yankkees...it would be amusing to see how low in the draft they finally go and who takes them, same with the braves.

Zvon
Nov 27 2005 09:36 PM

Ill go by whatever you guys set up.
I dont need no stinkin Yahnkees ;)

Im not saying you should do this, but I found that stat wise including triples for batters and complete games for pitchers made it much more interesting because they were kinda rare occurances compared to other stats.

And some weeks a complete game decided a tiebreaker situation catagory wise.
Some weeks no one got a complete game.

I found the more stats the more interesting it was. One of my leagues had minimal stats, just the biggys (like hits/homers/wins/Ks-no doubles or triples, innings pitched, shutout,etc) and it was okay, but not as exciting.

Ill go with however its set up, but thats just some input from me.^

Nymr83
Nov 28 2005 12:11 AM

well, thats all assuming a points league, i'm partial to rotisserie style myself (and i HATE head to head which i feel is great for football leagues but not so much so for other sports)

the "standard" 5x5 yahoo league is R/RBI/BA/HR/SB for hitters and WHIP/ERA/W/SV/K for pitchers, but we can of course do whatever we want.

lets give it till the end of the week to get a list of participants before we start debating all our options though, it will help to have seperate threads in the sub forum the edgy has offered, i'm not about to start multiple threads on the subject here as i am very anti-clutter.

Elster88
Nov 28 2005 07:12 AM

Adding extra stats and scoring categories greatly diminishes the skill factor and increases the luck factor, IMHO.

Valadius
Nov 28 2005 07:21 AM

I'm in favor of rotisserie style as well.

And I'd be more than happy to co-commish with Nymr.

Let's get that subforum up and running and flesh this out.

seawolf17
Nov 28 2005 07:22 AM

I'd be in. It's a little crazy being in multiple leagues, but I'm thinking about punting my other league next season anyway (I spent the last eight seasons as a commissioner, and I'm spent.) FWIW, I'm really impressed with CBS Sportsline's fantasy services; they get better every season. There is a fee, but if we split it among all of us it's not bad -- a $20 entry fee each will cover the site fee and a small prize at the end of the season for the champ.

Screw the "No Yanks/Braves" thing. Too confusing.

Since we're pretty scattered, I'm assuming we'd do some sort of online draft, which would lead itself much more easily to doing a regular snake draft, as opposed to an auction draft.

We've played HTH my entire fantasy baseball career, and I'm definitely ready for a change -- I'd go 5x5.

Valadius
Nov 28 2005 07:26 AM

A snake draft would probably be more efficient. Yahoo's online draft system is fantastic, in my opinion, and would work great if we decide on a snake draft.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 28 2005 07:28 AM

It's been more than a dozen years since I've done any fantasy baseballing, and I was a little tempted to jump in, but realistically, I'd probably be one of those who lose interest by Mother's Day, so I'll pass.

sharpie
Nov 28 2005 07:32 AM

I've been commissioner of a league for 6 years now which is kind of a CPF-lite for me as much of the league activity amounts to commentary on various topics. Don't have time in my life for more than that and keeping my posting levels here up to snuff. Roger Mason, indeed.


Oh, and Edgy, please move this as it will clutter up the main board real quick.

Elster88
Nov 28 2005 07:42 AM

Put me down for a vote for Yahoo, and a vote for no restrictions based on real-life team.

Nymr83
Nov 28 2005 07:42 AM

i LOVE auctions but that is clearly not the way to go online unless we could all get together for 6 hours (and thats a bare minimum) and find a chat room moderator to run the auction. a snake-draft on yahoo will take 3 hours (with 15-20 people) and you can pre-set your list incase you miss the end.

Valadius
Nov 28 2005 07:44 AM

I think the Yankees/Braves thing to be a little bit silly myself, but I would never stoop to having Jeter or Chipper on my team.

Nymr83
Nov 28 2005 07:49 AM

i've never had a yankee on one of my teams, mostly because every yahoo league has at least one yankee fan who overvalues them by a round or more.
what are you doing up so early valadius? you should never take classes before 11 in college!

Valadius
Nov 28 2005 07:52 AM

Yeah, I had an 8 AM Intro to American Politics class. I've only got a 2:20 Intro to Psychology class left today though.

Nymr83
Nov 28 2005 07:56 AM

i would definetaly have either overslept the 8am or gone back to sleep immediately afterwards so as to wake up for the 2pm...

staying on topic...
with the number of people we have we almost certainly will go with an MLB league (as opposed to NL-only).

i'll start polls and discussions on the other thing we need to decide once we get a subforum up and running.

Vic Sage
Nov 28 2005 08:00 AM

My lawyer, Matt Murdock, advises me to vote for a:

- Free Yahoo league
- 5x5 Rotisserie-style
- snake draft
- MLB/ all players available

I don't draft Yankees as a rule, so it won't effect me, one way or the other. I just can't stand rooting for any of VonSteingrabber's Luftwaffen.

Valadius
Nov 28 2005 08:08 AM

All things I'm in favor of, Ralph. Let's get this subforum going and put it up for discussion.

Willets Point
Nov 29 2005 08:10 PM

I just discovered this forum.

I'll play in a free Yahoo league (or something similar).

Just to warn you all, I suck.

TheOldMole
Dec 24 2005 08:29 PM

That's what you said before you beat my parody.

Also just found this forum.

metirish
Jan 15 2006 08:47 PM

This might be of interest...

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Fantasy Leagues, Major League Baseball Going To Court Over Use Of Player Stats

1/13/2006 10:17:46 PM


Hundreds of companies sponsor fantasy sports leagues, where the competition is based on a player statistics. One of those companies is taking on an entire league in court.

CBC Distribution, a St. Louis based company that operates fantasy leagues, is suing Major League Baseball for the right to use players names and stats without a license.

CBC claims baseball stats become historical facts when the game is completed. Major League Baseball claims it should have control over that information.

Ben Clark is an intellectual property attorney in St. Louis. "It seems as though this right of publicity, or the right to prevent someone else from benefitting from the use of your name or picture, is the main issue that will be contested in this case," said Clark.

CBC paid Major League Baseball a percentage of royalties from its fantasy league, for the right to use player profiles and statistics.

But baseball took over exclusive rights to license those statistics last year. If this case goes to trial, and Major League Baseball wins, the impact could be far reaching.

"If you are playing in a fantasy league yourself, if you own a trivial pursuit sports game or gamble in Vegas, this decision could impact you if you can play those games as you have before," according to Clark.

That impact would eventually come in the form of money anyone using baseball statistics for profit would have to pay. That's something other leagues would certainly take notice of.

Said Clark, "There seems to be no reason why football or basketball could not argue to have a right of publicity in names and stats."


Nymr83
Jan 16 2006 01:26 PM

]CBC claims baseball stats become historical facts when the game is completed. Major League Baseball claims it should have control over that information.


The court didn't buy that crap from the NBA against Motorola, i doubt they'll buy it now

Zvon
Jan 17 2006 08:47 PM

this is bullshit.

They even want to profit off stats as they happen?
Thats rediculous.
This is taking licencing a bit too far,imo.

*62
Jan 26 2006 08:16 PM

Thanks, I'd love to

Zvon
Feb 13 2006 08:56 PM

Valadius wrote:
I think the Yankees/Braves thing to be a little bit silly myself, but I would never stoop to having Jeter or Chipper on my team.


I hear ya about Chipper.
But I had Jeter on my team last year.
I let him play back up for Reyes at short.
HA!
That was shweet.