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Diamond Dad
Nov 28 2005 02:09 PM

I'll be flexible here, but my preference would be to either use a 5x5 "standard" roto format (.avg, HR, RBI, SB, R for hitters, and ERA, WHIP, WINS, S, Ks for pitchers) or, even better, use a more comprehensive set of stats. One league I've been in uses:

OBP
Runs
Doubles + Triples
HR
RBI
Net Steals
Errors

and

Net Wins
ERA
WHIP
Ks
Saves

Would be nice if bases on balls for hitters counted for someting (e.g., use OBP, not .AVG) and if doubles and triples counted. Plus caught-stealing was a negative, and losses hurt a pitcher.

But, whatever the commish wants to use, I'll play by

Nymr83
Nov 28 2005 03:54 PM

once we settle the roto/points/h2h debate we'll pick categories, there us a logical order to this :)

Matt Murdock, Esq.
Nov 29 2005 08:48 PM

standard 5x5.
we don't need to get pointlessly esoteric.

Zvon
Dec 18 2005 09:43 PM

My Own Quote
]I found that stat wise including triples for batters and complete games for pitchers made it much more interesting because they were kinda rare occurances compared to other stats.

And some weeks a complete game decided a tiebreaker situation catagory wise.
Some weeks no one got a complete game.

I found the more stats the more interesting it was. One of my leagues had minimal stats, just the biggys (like hits/homers/wins/Ks-no doubles or triples, innings pitched, shutout,etc) and it was okay, but not as exciting.



Ill check the way my brother set his up.
I didnt mention shutouts up there but that was another kool one.
And a complete game non-shutout may have been the rarest stat of all, which simply fell under the complete game catagory.
But those two, more than not, went hand in hand.

Im down for whatever you decide here.

Rotblatt
Dec 19 2005 10:04 AM

In general, I think we need to make sure that pitchers & the offense have the same number of stats counted--it keeps things balanced.

Errors are always tricky, because they don't actually reward good defenders and you can't really strategize around it, unlike other "meaningless" stats like Runs, RBI & SVs.

5x5 is fine by me, although I'm fond of the following as well:

OBP / SLG / R / RBI / SB / CS / K
ERA /WHIP/ K / nSV/ nW / BB / HR

Nymr83
Dec 21 2005 01:10 PM

i'm definetaly opposed to counting offensive strikeouts as a category, and caught stealing shouldnt be one either....better to just use "net steals" (steals - caught stealings) as one category, if you want them to count. pitcher walks are redundant with WHIP so cut that along with batter k's.

i'd prefer to just go 5x5 as its what everyone is familiar with...if not everyone still has to realize that in a roto league you cant just have categories "out of nowhere" like shutouts, triples, etc because they'd count evenly with things like runs and era, which doesnt sound like fun to me.

Zvon
Mar 16 2006 06:26 PM

have final categorys been decided?

Diamond Dad
Mar 25 2006 12:45 PM
Final decisions?

What are the final decisions about # of players, bench, stat categories?

Zvon
Mar 25 2006 01:14 PM
Re: Final decisions?

Diamond Dad wrote:
What are the final decisions about # of players, bench, stat categories?


This is kinda important info for draft use.
Maybe the definative answers to these questions are somewhere in this section but I cant find em.

Lil help here commish?
Anybody?

Rotblatt
Mar 25 2006 01:24 PM

Dunno. I came back here for the same reason.

The settings in the league are standard 5x5.

Zvon
Mar 25 2006 01:25 PM

oh-you can see it at the site-kool.

Roster Positions:
C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL


Stat Categories:
R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

Zvon
Mar 25 2006 02:10 PM

1 DL-ouch.
I thought the survey said 2.


".....Survey says!------------2!"

see^

I guess one will have to do.
Make for more forced moves roster wise.