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Terry an All-Star!

metsguyinmichigan Jun 13 2012 11:41 AM

Metsblog reporting that LaRussa has named Terry Collins to the All-Star coaching staff. Which Mets are making the trip with him? I think Wright for sure, and Dickey and possibly Santana.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2012 11:46 AM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Pelfrey.

HahnSolo Jun 13 2012 11:49 AM Re: Terry an All-Star!

LaRussa gets to manage the All-Star game?

metsguyinmichigan Jun 13 2012 11:49 AM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Edgy DC wrote: Pelfrey. I thought Pelfrey got hosed a couple years ago when he was 10-2 at the break and didn't get on the team. If only we could clone Harvey Dorfman.

Ceetar Jun 13 2012 11:49 AM Re: Terry an All-Star!

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Metsblog reporting that LaRussa has named Terry Collins to the All-Star coaching staff. Which Mets are making the trip with him? I think Wright for sure, and Dickey and possibly Santana. unless we get our act together/vote I'm not sure anyone else gets in besides those.

metirish Jun 13 2012 11:49 AM Re: Terry an All-Star!

HahnSolo wrote: LaRussa gets to manage the All-Star game? my first thought exactly , this game means something dammit.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 13 2012 11:51 AM Re: Terry an All-Star!

HahnSolo wrote: LaRussa gets to manage the All-Star game? Yup. Since he's the reigning world champion manager and retired, he gets to come back. I suspect it would have been different had hebeen fired. What happened to Yogi after the MFY's canned him for losing the World Series? Did his replacement manage the next year's game, or did they have a different system?

Edgy MD Jun 13 2012 11:56 AM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Bob Lemon managed the 1982 All Star Game after getting sacked by the Yanks a few weeks into the season.

Gwreck Jun 13 2012 12:00 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Ceetar wrote: unless we get our act together/vote I'm not sure anyone else gets in besides those. What, for Lucas Duda, starting outfielder? The only mystery is if both Santana AND Dickey make it, or just one of them. Wright will either start or be a reserve.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 13 2012 12:01 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Wright and Dickey 2012

Benjamin Grimm Jun 13 2012 12:09 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

I think I remember Danny Murtagh coming out of retirement to manage the NL team in 1972.

TransMonk Jun 13 2012 12:13 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Good on Terry. Wright and Dickey should be in. I would have said Johan before his start last Friday.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2012 12:25 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Edgy DC wrote: Bob Lemon managed the 1982 All Star Game after getting sacked by the Yanks a few weeks into the season. I take it back. Billy Martin led the 1982 American Leaguers with an Oakland A uniform on his back. What's wrong with me?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 13 2012 12:43 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Dickey and Wright. Johan? A toss-up.

TransMonk Jun 13 2012 12:48 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

We had our shit together on Dickey and Wright before the season started...but didn't know shit about Ike. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17564

G-Fafif Jun 13 2012 01:10 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Terry seems very "in" with the old boys network managerially speaking, branching off the La Russa/Leyland tree plust with the Dodger roots. Guess that comes from being a longtime baseball man and not being distracted by philosophy or whatever it was that made Jerry Manuel seem interesting before he just seemed an albatross. When SNY showed the Bisons game the other night, they were promoting the Triple-A All-Star Game there by harking back to the 1988 affair that was also in town. Managing in that game: a younger but still generally old Terry Collins of the Albuquerque Dukes. When R.A. is announced at Kaufman Stadium as the starting pitcher, instead of showing him warming up in the bullpen, he should enter after swimming the Missouri River.

Vic Sage Jun 13 2012 01:15 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Terry said something sensible in today's DNews. When being asked about the bullpen, he made it clear that the only person who has a role is Francisco, and everybody else's role "is to get the guy out standing in the batter's box". Here here!... Except the Francisco thing, but you gotta start somewhere.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 13 2012 01:26 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Vic Sage wrote: Terry said something sensible in today's DNews. When being asked about the bullpen, he made it clear that the only person who has a role is Francisco, and everybody else's role "is to get the guy out standing in the batter's box". Here here!... Except the Francisco thing, but you gotta start somewhere. I thought the same when I heard that Collins quote from yesterday's post-game presser.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 13 2012 02:11 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

John Harper, in an article on the same two-page spread, said that most managers hate the "defined roles" thing but reluctantly go along with it. I'm also very glad that Terry is breaking that mold. I wish I had more confidence that it was a permanent thing, but I suspect that once somebody emerges as a good choice for the "eighth inning role" then that role will become official. And so on for the seventh inning, etc.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 13 2012 02:23 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

Terry is slowly-but-surely coming around to some pretty impressively open-minded positions on a lot of things. I wonder if the daily memos in his Inbox from upstairs help with that.

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2012 02:30 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

He had Rauch up in the 6th yesterday, so there's that. The major problem with most managers who break up the role system is that they tend to do so only to say; "OK, from now on, YOU are the 8th inning guy instead of the guy I just took out of there" ... and so nothing really changes.

Vic Sage Jun 13 2012 03:22 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

That Terry has come to realize he has no reliable relievers so he might as well mix and match is fine. But I'll believe things are changing when a manager finally hands the ball to his best reliever in a late-inning high leverage situation that isn't defined by whether its a save situation or not.

Ashie62 Jun 13 2012 03:41 PM Re: Terry an All-Star!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wright and Dickey 2012 That..with Dickey starting..Wright not starting.