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Small-Time All-Time Secondbaseman

Roberto Alomar

11 votes

Carlos Baerga

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Luis Castillo

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Ron Hunt

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Jeff Kent

2 votes

Willie Randolph

0 votes

Felix Millan

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Tim Teufel

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Other

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Edgy MD Jun 18 2012 10:06 PM

Who was the greatest secondbaseman in Major League history to ever don a Mets uniform, without achieving all-time Met status. In other words, greatest keystoner in MLB history, who played for the Mets (no matter how well or poorly), not named Alfonzo.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 18 2012 10:16 PM Re: Small-Time All-Time Secondbaseman

Fangraphs REALLY likes Randolph, to the extent that he's an eyeblink behind Alomar for career value. But, then, a lot of that value is in fielding (UZR), so it's pretty dependent on what your personal exchange rate is for that currency. Gimme Spits McGee, who's about as good with the bat as Kent, but somewhat better in the glove department, and has more basepath value.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2012 10:19 PM Re: Small-Time All-Time Secondbaseman

Baseball-Reference really likes Willie too. Probably turned a helluva lot of DPs.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2012 06:26 AM Re: Small-Time All-Time Secondbaseman

Edgy DC wrote: Baseball-Reference really likes Willie too. Probably turned a helluva lot of DPs. Well, that and the fact that he was a winner all his life.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2012 07:07 AM Re: Small-Time All-Time Secondbaseman

Sure, but they're extracting their opinions purely from numbers. I really had to scrap to find anything resembling a panel of eight high end secondbasemen who came through town. Teufel? Really? You got guys who primarily played second as Mets, but didn't really earn their points there during their career, like Jeffries, or you got guys like Juan Samuel, who didn't make even a token appearance at second for the Mets. And neither put up that much career value anyhow. Short and third will look better.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2012 07:10 AM Re: Small-Time All-Time Secondbaseman

What, you don't think 'Winner' is part of BB-Ref's sabermetric calculations? Then explain why Derek Jeter's 'Most Similar' is Meadowlark Lemon!