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IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 08:33 AM

Jordany Valdespin gets the start in center field, with Hairston in left and Nooey observing. Ryan Dempster returns from the DL to get his pride injured by the Mets. The lineup for the good guys: Ruben Tejada, ss Daniel Murphy, 2b David Wright, 3b Ike Davis, 1b Lucas Duda, rf Scott Hairston, lf Jordany Valdespin, cf Josh Thole, c Jon Niese, p

metsguyinmichigan Jul 08 2012 08:43 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

I didn't know Valde played center.

Ceetar Jul 08 2012 08:47 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I didn't know Valde played center. this was a late spring experiment when everyone was getting hurt. He's played there some (left field yesterday) in the minors now too. Probably ups his versatility (trade!) and personally I think he's a much better outfielder than infielder.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2012 08:59 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I didn't know Valde played center. When your nominal CFers hit like they're hitting, he becomes one rather quickly.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2012 09:07 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

I'd be a lot more worried about the outfield defense if Ex-Hawkman hadn't turned into a ground-ball specialist (22nd in MLB in GB%, 81st in FB%) this year.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 09:09 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Expect Keith to bring up Davey Johnson's Sid Fernandez defensive alignment no later than the second inning.

G-Fafif Jul 08 2012 09:11 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

There's a touch of Kevin Mitchell circa 1986 to this kid. Just (allegedly) hide the cats down the road.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 10:16 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

The Cubbies go righthanded vs. Niese, including the usual place on the pine for all-star Bryan LaHair. Johnson CF Castro SS Rizzo 1B Soriano LF Baker RF Soto C Barney 2B Valbuena 3B Dempster P

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 11:21 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Yoicks! Niese looks like a Red Sox pitcher in the first. 4-0 Cubs before the Mets step to the plate.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 11:40 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

A Hairy three-bagger brings up the CF du jour with one out.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 11:41 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Valdespin lines out to second, leaving it up to Buster Posey's knuckleball consultant.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2012 11:42 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

I predict that the Mets will win a wild one today. Hairston will hit for the cycle. Johan will get the Save. And Ralph Kiner won't be overcome by the heat.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 11:44 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

I predict batmags is right, but the comeback will have to wait until at least the third. I hate stranding one-out triples.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 11:57 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Dempster looks pretty good out there. Leaving runners on third with less than two out is not the way to play catch-up.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2012 11:59 AM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Getting down by four in the 1st inning is one thing - it happens (and the Cubs didn't exactly smack the ball around that inning either). But then allowing two consecutive opportunities to slide by without scoring -- runner on 3rd w/1 out; 1st & 2nd w/no outs and 2-3-4 coming up -- is the type of thing that comes back to haunt you.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2012 12:03 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Dempster DID pitch Murph and Wright REALLY well there, though. (The changeup that got SugarPants was filthy.)

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 12:04 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

OK, Niese has settled down. The Cubs are stuck on four. Time for the Mets to begin working on getting five.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2012 12:09 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Why do people wear team gear-- jerseys, hats, etc.-- from other sports to baseball games? It's just... strange.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 12:18 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Why do people wear team gear-- jerseys, hats, etc.-- from other sports to baseball games? It's just... strange. My guess is they're fans of neither team playing. If I went to a Yankees-Mariners game, say, I might not want to wear a Mets shirt, but might go with a NY Rangers or NY Giants shirt.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 12:33 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Dempster out due to pitch limit, and Maholm is greeted by singles by Murphy and Wright. Duda up, two on, one out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2012 12:34 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Alderson in the booth, post-Ralph (who-- it pains me to say-- is really starting to show the age, voice- and observation-wise). Some nuggets: BULLPEN: We should expect changes in the "10 days or so, following the [All-Star break]," with guys like Mejia or Edgin getting a call up. Trades may come after more internal options are explored, but likely not before. VALDESPIN: "He brings a lot.. a lot of things to the table. Some of those... things we don't have, you know?" HARVEY: "It's possible that Johan will get stronger, it's possible that Niese continues to develop... but if we have a need, Harvey's getting a LOT closer... the pitches and sequencing are really coming along. A month down the road, he could certainly be a possibility."

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2012 12:37 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

And now they blow a third good chance at chopping away at the lead!

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 12:45 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

And Castro gives the Cubs a lead that will require more than chipping. 7-0 Cubs.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2012 12:56 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Thole definitely has his weak ground-ball stroke down pat. Three in a row so far today resulting in four outs and several potential rallies killed. In recounting his ASG appearances, Keith is conveniently forgetting the '85 game where, as he recounts in his 'If At First' book, he declined the opportunity to be an addition to that squad (albeit a last-minute one).

Ashie62 Jul 08 2012 01:14 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Sandy is such a tease. How about..Bay in left as a righty bat...Torres and Newie share CF...Hairston & Duda platoon. Bullpen...He better find out about these internal options before the deadline. He seemed to infer that Harvey still has command issues with his secondaries. Sandy did not say anything I have not read on this board. So..see how it flies and we still make need an external Right bat and RP..

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2012 01:17 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2012 01:48 PM

Great NYM pitching today ... for 7 of the 9 innings. Sucky NYM hitting today for 9 of the 9 innings.

bmfc1 Jul 08 2012 01:23 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

At least it was over quickly. What a stinker and it's the last game until Friday.

Swan Swan H Jul 08 2012 01:25 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Phils-Braves on TBS. You can hear Ron Darling and watch two teams that don't look any better than the Mets.

Ashie62 Jul 08 2012 01:25 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

These team is not good enough to lose two of three to the Cubs.. Anyway, nice first half but could have been better. Nice job by Terry...Sandy we shall see.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 08 2012 01:35 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

I was actually considering going to this game. I'm glad that the motivation never kicked in. It takes a lot of effort for me to get to Citi Field and it's especially important to avoid the dud games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2012 02:38 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

sat in the sun for 9 long innings behind first base. Thole looked like absolute crap, barely hustling to the bag. Muffy was the only guy who came to play today.

bmfc1 Jul 08 2012 03:37 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Thole looked like absolute crap, barely hustling to the bag. I noticed this, too. It wasn't mentioned on TV but it should have been.

Ashie62 Jul 08 2012 04:41 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

bmfc1 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Thole looked like absolute crap, barely hustling to the bag. I noticed this, too. It wasn't mentioned on TV but it should have been. One tired catcher with one foot on the plane home.

Zvon Jul 08 2012 05:33 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Would have been nice to go into the break with a win here but I'll look at the whole first half and go into it with a very nice feeling instead. I did not expect to be where we are. I hope we are as fortunate from here on out.

Mets – Willets Point Jul 08 2012 06:01 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

Well at least the Mets won't lose to the Cubs anymore this season. Why is it always the shite teams that are our undoing?

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2012 06:52 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

There are three sub-.400 teams in the NL this season: Houston, Colorado, Chicago Mets = 4-8 against them so far.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2012 08:22 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

only guy who showed up today

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2012 09:03 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

The new CFer seemed pretty present, as well.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2012 09:09 PM Re: IGT 7/8/2012 CHI @ NYM: Spin Citi

He's the man now.