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Interminable All-Star Break 2012

G-Fafif Jul 08 2012 02:37 PM

Approximately 122 1/2 hours until there's real baseball again. But who's counting?

G-Fafif Jul 09 2012 03:19 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Just under 99 hours now, though it will feel like more time is being added during the home run derby.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2012 04:08 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

G-Fafif wrote: Just under 99 hours now, though it will feel like more time is being added during the home run derby. More Berman? I Can't Go For That. Here's a little... alternative audio programming to help.

Ceetar Jul 09 2012 05:21 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

G-Fafif wrote: Just under 99 hours now, though it will feel like more time is being added during the home run derby. pro tip: DVR delay and/or mute. Still get to see towering home runs, takes less time. shame the AAA Home Run Derby doesn't appear to be televised. Val Pascucci!

Ashie62 Jul 09 2012 06:39 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

What are the only two days of the year there are no games in any of the 4 major professional sports? (sorry soccer.)

seawolf17 Jul 09 2012 06:53 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

What's with the extra day off this year?

G-Fafif Jul 09 2012 07:02 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

seawolf17 wrote: What's with the extra day off this year? Something to do with the extra playoff spot, I think (or am imagining).

Ashie62 Jul 09 2012 07:13 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Ashie62 wrote: What are the only two days of the year there are no games in any of the 4 major professional sports? (sorry soccer.) The day before and after the MLB All Star game.

Fman99 Jul 09 2012 08:13 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

seawolf17 wrote: What's with the extra day off this year? It's a way of making this week more unbearable. Maybe Chris Berman could come over to my house and yell while we're at it. The fuck.

seawolf17 Jul 09 2012 08:16 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

You've got six dozen fuckin' kids out there, and not single one can catch a single one of these fuckin' fly balls.

themetfairy Jul 09 2012 08:19 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Plus we're stuck watching Kruk stuff his face with ribs - ICK!

Ceetar Jul 09 2012 09:08 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

G-Fafif wrote: seawolf17 wrote: What's with the extra day off this year? Something to do with the extra playoff spot, I think (or am imagining). nah, because that was scheduled before the playoff spot was added (this has been brought up with the worry about ties at the end of the season, since they didn't necessarily leave time) It was always either 3 or 4, I think they just decided to make it uniform for everyone.

Edgy MD Jul 09 2012 10:02 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

VAL! PASCUCCI! Triple-A Home Run Derby winner.

G-Fafif Jul 10 2012 12:48 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

What's with the extra day off this year? Something to do with the extra playoff spot, I think (or am imagining). nah, because that was scheduled before the playoff spot was added (this has been brought up with the worry about ties at the end of the season, since they didn't necessarily leave time) It was always either 3 or 4, I think they just decided to make it uniform for everyone. Not exactly an arbitrary decision; and it does have something to do with larger changes. It's included in the current CBA, albeit for 2013 to 2016. E. 15/15 Realignment Beginning with the 2013 championship season, the Office of the Commissioner will prepare a schedule based on the following criteria: (A) There will be no more than 20 Interleague games. The bulk of Interleague play will be based on a rotating division format, but may include no more than one series against a prime inter-league rival unless they play two two-game series. In the years when the corresponding divisions are scheduled for Interleague play, two series of three or fewer games against the prime inter-league rival may be played. (B) Each Club will play no fewer than 17 games against each Club in its division if the schedule is 181 days or more. Each Club will play no fewer than 18 games against each Club in its division if the schedule is 180 days or fewer. (C) The original schedule may contain one home split doubleheader for each Club. (D) The All-Star break will contain four days for all Clubs. The extra day off seems compensation for the squeezing in of potential scheduled day-night doubleheaders and other complications arising from daily Interleague nonsense to come.

metirish Jul 10 2012 06:28 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Flipped to the HR Derby last night and there was Kruk eating a big tray of ribs.......one of the players getting caught of camera doing the same this while standing next to Brett Butler.......couldn't watch though, Berman kills everything.....heard Cano got booed loudly all night.

Ceetar Jul 10 2012 06:34 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

metirish wrote: Flipped to the HR Derby last night and there was Kruk eating a big tray of ribs.......one of the players getting caught of camera doing the same this while standing next to Brett Butler.......couldn't watch though, Berman kills everything.....heard Cano got booed loudly all night. George Brett brought them over when they interviewed him. It was Adam Jones eating them. Berman is crap, maybe he won't be back next year. I tuned him out most of the night and just watched the hitters. It's a poor production all around though, because their was more than once that they missed home runs. Cano sucks. I'm curious what some of you that are/were against Interleague play in general feel about the tradeoff of possibly getting back some scheduled doubleheaders? it's one of the changes that feels like it's been under-reported. Get an extra roster spot for them too.

metirish Jul 10 2012 06:39 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Ahhhh, George Brett.............who the feck is Brett Butler? agree, terrible production....

Ceetar Jul 10 2012 06:44 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

metirish wrote: Ahhhh, George Brett.............who the feck is Brett Butler? agree, terrible production.... they showed some home runs against the Yankees...and the pine tar incident (of course right?) Brett Butler is the Royals representative that KC apparently wanted Cano to pick, hence the booing. He's been their 1B/DH for a couple of years now, and he's actually pretty good. So much so that KC actually extended him a couple of years ago through 2014. Wait, that's Billy Butler. Is that who you meant?

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2012 06:53 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Berman is crap, maybe he won't be back next year. Seriously? Concocted non-event events like this which thrive on hype, loud calls, and more talk than actual action (see also: drafts, pre-game shows, etc.) are tailor-made made for Chris Berman; they're the reason he's employed. ESPN, which (except for the BB2N gang off in a segregated portion of the Bristol campus) can now go back to ignoring baseball now that what they think is the highlight of the season is over, wouldn't pull him off of something like this at gunpoint. I'm curious what some of you that are/were against Interleague play in general feel about the tradeoff of possibly getting back some scheduled doubleheaders? it's one of the changes that feels like it's been under-reported. Get an extra roster spot for them too. It's so under-reported that I have no idea what you're talking about. What does IL play have to do with double-headers?

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2012 06:55 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Billy Butler (16 HRs this season) is the KC DH who local fans wanted included. Brett Butler is either the former Brave/Indian/Dodger (and brief NYM) or a female actress/comedian.

Edgy MD Jul 10 2012 07:06 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

I'm confused. Is Billy Barty an All-Star?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2012 07:06 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Why is Robinson Cano deciding who is in Home Run Derby? It's just a show for the fans, right? Why would he not choose to have a hometown favorite in the competition? I saw a quote where he said something about how he wanted to choose the best team possible. Why? Does this "count" too?

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2012 07:11 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Why is Robinson Cano deciding who is in Home Run Derby? It's just a show for the fans, right? Why would he not choose to have a hometown favorite in the competition? I saw a quote where he said something about how he wanted to choose the best team possible. Why? Does this "count" too? They've taken to naming "captains" on each side and those guys get to pick their teams - although I suspect there's some league involvement as well. Cano, as defending champ, was this year's AL captain. Matt Kemp was NL captain. And, yeah, you'd think it would be smart to get some local flavor into what is essentially a meaningless contest, although it's tough to argue for kicking out one of Prince, Trumbo or Bautista to do it.

Edgy MD Jul 10 2012 07:26 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2012 07:32 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

So who won this thing? I didn't even try to watch.

Mets – Willets Point Jul 10 2012 07:44 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

There are two threads discussing the Home Run derby and neither of them mentions the winner.

Ceetar Jul 10 2012 08:25 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Why is Robinson Cano deciding who is in Home Run Derby? It's just a show for the fans, right? Why would he not choose to have a hometown favorite in the competition? I saw a quote where he said something about how he wanted to choose the best team possible. Why? Does this "count" too? Cano won last year, and they went to a Captain format. (Matt Kemp, leading in-season HR champ was NL captain) supposedly they picked. I don't know how exactly they picked, or what input MLB ended up having. Billy Butler is not a home run hitter. He's good for about 15-20 on a season, but he's not a slugger. You could've gone Mike Moustakas, but he wasn't on the All-Star Team (better OPS/OPS+ than A-Rod though) which doesn't always matter..but.. As Greg said up above, the possibility of scheduled doubleheaders are part of the new CBA. Part of the flexibility to schedule two uneven sets of 15 teams. Not sure the logistics of it or if that's even necessary, but there will also be a 26th man available for doubleheaders on rosters. Fielder won. I just enjoyed watched the home runs, wasn't concerned with the results. It's like Spring Training where it's fun to just watch guys hit and run and field and pitch again without worrying about the score.

MFS62 Jul 10 2012 09:18 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Another sports story to follow during the break is the never-ending saga of Dwight Howard to the Nets. Also - I saw the headline on Yahoo Sports that Mikkleson (I'm guessing Golfer Phil, not ex-major leaguer Pete) and one of the O'Malley family are looking to buy the Padres. Later

Edgy MD Jul 10 2012 10:01 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Berman is crap, maybe he won't be back next year. Seriously? Concocted non-event events like this which thrive on hype, loud calls, and more talk than actual action (see also: drafts, pre-game shows, etc.) are tailor-made made for Chris Berman; they're the reason he's employed. ESPN, which (except for the BB2N gang off in a segregated portion of the Bristol campus) can now go back to ignoring baseball now that what they think is the highlight of the season is over, wouldn't pull him off of something like this at gunpoint. America loves Berman.

Ceetar Jul 10 2012 10:08 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Is Twitter a reliable source? (I say no) and most of the tweets in my timeline were negative. I'm on this MLB Fan At Bat email list that sends me surveys, and one of the questions was about the announcers. I panned them, but the way the question was worded made it seem to me that they're at least aware there is dislike of Berman (and the Fox guys)

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2012 12:26 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Ceetar wrote: As Greg said up above, the possibility of scheduled doubleheaders are part of the new CBA. Part of the flexibility to schedule two uneven sets of 15 teams. Not sure the logistics of it or if that's even necessary, but there will also be a 26th man available for doubleheaders on rosters. Per the contract language Greg reproduced: "(C) The original schedule may contain one home split doubleheader for each Club." That simply allows for the possibility of clubs writing One Double-Header (as in singular) into the schedule which would be of the Day/Night variety. This is hardly a return to the days of weekly DHs nor do I see it as some positive by-product of inter-league play. DHs in the "good old days" were common for two reasons: 1) travel was long so more off days were needed. This idea put forth by a lot of commentators (in their endless quest to "fix" baseball) that a great way to shorten the season is simply to return to weekly double-headers don't realize what they're saying; players aren't going to agree to play 8 games a week. 2) Clubs felt they needed to give customers a 'two for one" discount in order to increase attendance. Single games now average a MUCH larger pct of a sell-out so the practice wouldn't pay the way it used to.

seawolf17 Jul 10 2012 12:27 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Oh, and Prince Fielder won, a fact that nobody will remember ever.

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2012 12:34 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

MFS62 wrote: Another sports story to follow during the break is the never-ending saga of Dwight Howard to the Nets. One of these years you're actually going to start a [crossout]LI[/crossout], ummmm, [crossout]NJ[/crossout], er ... Brooklyn Nets thread instead of trying to slide Nets info into every unrelated thread you can find.

G-Fafif Jul 10 2012 12:51 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

75+ hours to go...

bmfc1 Jul 10 2012 05:55 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

What's with the extra day off this year? Something to do with the extra playoff spot, I think (or am imagining). nah, because that was scheduled before the playoff spot was added (this has been brought up with the worry about ties at the end of the season, since they didn't necessarily leave time) It was always either 3 or 4, I think they just decided to make it uniform for everyone. Not exactly an arbitrary decision; and it does have something to do with larger changes. It's included in the current CBA, albeit for 2013 to 2016. E. 15/15 Realignment Beginning with the 2013 championship season, the Office of the Commissioner will prepare a schedule based on the following criteria: (A) There will be no more than 20 Interleague games. The bulk of Interleague play will be based on a rotating division format, but may include no more than one series against a prime inter-league rival unless they play two two-game series. In the years when the corresponding divisions are scheduled for Interleague play, two series of three or fewer games against the prime inter-league rival may be played. (B) Each Club will play no fewer than 17 games against each Club in its division if the schedule is 181 days or more. Each Club will play no fewer than 18 games against each Club in its division if the schedule is 180 days or fewer. (C) The original schedule may contain one home split doubleheader for each Club. (D) The All-Star break will contain four days for all Clubs. The extra day off seems compensation for the squeezing in of potential scheduled day-night doubleheaders and other complications arising from daily Interleague nonsense to come. How are we gonna live without having the MFYs brighten out lives six times a season? Revisions to inter-league play mean 3 games against another division in the AL, plus 3 or 4 games against your "rival" EXCEPT every three years, when the Mets are back to 6 against the MFYs when the NL East plays the AL East. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... -games-max My prediction: MLB screws with the schedule so the Mets/MFY series are Saturday-Sunday which means somehow playing a series which ends on Friday.

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2012 06:28 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Concocted non-event events like this which thrive on hype, loud calls, and more talk than actual action (see also: drafts, pre-game shows, etc.) are tailor-made made for Chris Berman; they're the reason he's employed. ESPN, which (except for the BB2N gang off in a segregated portion of the Bristol campus) can now go back to ignoring baseball now that what they think is the highlight of the season is over, wouldn't pull him off of something like this at gunpoint. America loves Berman. And notice that most of those Berman-love quotes involve him calling the HR contest. Again, stuff like the HR derby is the perfect (non)-event for him as he is the perfect (non)-announcer for the (non)-sports fan who tunes into (non)-event like that. It's a perfect fit. But notice that ESPN doesn't put Berman on their Monday Night Football package; that when ESPN had the early round baseball playoffs he wasn't their go-to guy either; and when 'The Masters' sold their Thursday & Friday rounds to ESPN a few years back they had one condition: No Berman! (even though he fancies himself a golf expert).

TransMonk Jul 11 2012 07:58 AM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

http://www.channel3000.com/sports/Grein ... index.html Greinke to start 3 games in a row for Brewers Third start will make franchise history MILWAUKEE, Wis. - Milwaukee Brewers pitcher Zack Greinke is set to make franchise history Friday. He is scheduled to be the team's starting pitcher for the third straight game. Greinke started last Saturday's game, but was ejected in the first inning. The umpire threw him out after he thought Greinke was arguing a call. Since he only threw four pitches on Saturday, the team started Greinke on Sunday. The last Brewers pitcher to start on consecutive games was C.C. Sabathia, who started the game before and after the All-Star break in 2008. Greinke is scheduled [to start] Friday's game, Milwaukee's first game after the All-Star break. This would make him the first pitcher to start three straight games in one season since Red Faber for the Chicago White Sox in 1917.

G-Fafif Jul 11 2012 01:07 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

52 1/2 hours to go...

G-Fafif Jul 12 2012 01:13 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

28 hours and change...

TransMonk Jul 12 2012 01:15 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Four days is too long. I feel like a junkie.

Ceetar Jul 12 2012 01:19 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

TransMonk wrote: Four days is too long. I feel like a junkie. I know! I could even live with the occasional 4 days off if I at least had an out of town scoreboard today, but they did it to everyone. Hell, just give everyone the week off and play the WBC this week instead of the ASG every fourth year.

bmfc1 Jul 12 2012 01:31 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Ceetar wrote: Hell, just give everyone the week off and play the WBC this week instead of the ASG every fourth year. Brilliant! The Crypt Keeper would object (how else could we determine home field advantage in the WS?) but it's a great idea.

G-Fafif Jul 12 2012 01:34 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

While we ask, "When's on next?" Jerry Seinfeld considers "Who's on first?" tonight at 7 on MLBN.

G-Fafif Jul 12 2012 11:05 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Do try and catch the Seinfeld-Costas "Who's On First?" show (under "MLB Network Special," probably) when it airs again. Listening to Jerry dissect a baseball bit is better than Ronnie dissecting the split-finger fastball. Only 18 1/2 hours to go!

G-Fafif Jul 13 2012 01:45 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

Less than four hours remain, pending tarp time. Per Sonny Curtis, we might just make it after all.

Swan Swan H Jul 13 2012 01:51 PM Re: Interminable All-Star Break 2012

G-Fafif wrote: Do try and catch the Seinfeld-Costas "Who's On First?" show (under "MLB Network Special," probably) when it airs again. Listening to Jerry dissect a baseball bit is better than Ronnie dissecting the split-finger fastball. The program was excellent, but after they spoke in the open about the bit being on permanent display at the Baseball Hall of Fame they used a different version for the show.