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Edgy MD Jul 24 2012 07:04 AM

I regret to inform you that I kinda had visions of Wally Backman dancing in my head last night. (The visions were dancing, not Wally, if that's a distinction worth making.) The 2012 Mets have a lot to be proud of, but they're sort of erasing a big chunk of it every night right now. And a big chunk or good will to go along with it. Terry has already had his option exercised for 2013, but that's as much a bonus for the work he's done as a guarantee of his future. I don't think an axing is imminent or anything, but I wonder if something's gonna give. I don't really think too much drama is going to revolve around deadline divestments, as the real interesting case was Johan Santana, and now he's off the table. I think some leadership changes might be coming --- but how many can a team take, without becoming inured. Will more change on top undermine their ability to extend Wright? Will continuing to free fall undermine it?

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 07:14 AM Re: Freefall

barring Wright throwing Collins under the bus, it's not changing. Of course, if they continue to free fall to completely erase the entire first half and play .300 baseball the rest of the way, anything's possible, but that's a long way away right now. I'd like to see Warthen gone though. Hitting coaches are good fall guys too, and the offense has been disappointing, though I do like Hudgens and I don't know that he's to blame for Duda's struggles and it's not really his fault Tejada and Thole aren't power hitters.

TransMonk Jul 24 2012 07:42 AM Re: Freefall

This is 3 post-All-Star free falls and the second on Terry's watch. Very frustrating for sure. It's s hard to expect more from such a young offense. No matter how they finish, I really enjoyed watching their first half. I don't see anyone getting the axe. I still maintain that Sandy and ownership were prepared for much worse than what showed up on the field this season and, if anything, they have to be pleasantly surprised. The no-no and Dickey's June definitely sold some tix that might have otherwise been left on the table. Hopefully, Wright keeps playing at an MVP level and they can hope to sell a few more with a couple of good weeks in August/September. The second wildcard will give a glimmer of hope to a handful of .500 teams during the last month of the season.

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 07:44 AM Re: Freefall

TransMonk wrote: still maintain that Sandy and ownership were prepared for much worse than what showed up on the field this season and, if anything, they have to be pleasantly surprised. while pleasantly surprised, I think it makes their job harder. If say Daniel Murphy proved he couldn't cut it at second even a little, it makes it very clear what to do with him. There seem to be a lot of guys that have been wading in that murky "Part of the future, or need replacing" gray area.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2012 07:48 AM Re: Freefall

I would sooner whack Terry than Sandy, that's for sure. What bothered me as much as anything last night was that it was the second game in this stretch we could have won in regulation (if memory serves) if the pitcher could only get a bunt down. Not up to Terry to execute for them, of course, but somebody's got to answer for the hopelessly casual attention to the finer points this team has shown under his watch.

Mets – Willets Point Jul 24 2012 07:48 AM Re: Freefall

Edgy MD Jul 24 2012 08:01 AM Re: Freefall

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I would sooner whack Terry than Sandy, that's for sure. What bothered me as much as anything last night was that it was the second game in this stretch we could have won in regulation (if memory serves) if the pitcher could only get a bunt down. Not up to Terry to execute for them, of course, but somebody's got to answer for the hopelessly casual attention to the finer points this team has shown under his watch. I'm not sure, but you may be thinking about Nickeas' failed bunt --- the one that almost turned into a double play (and likely should have if not for DiMuro). It would take a lot of good stuff from Nickeas for me to get that taste out of my mouth.

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 08:03 AM Re: Freefall

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I would sooner whack Terry than Sandy, that's for sure. What bothered me as much as anything last night was that it was the second game in this stretch we could have won in regulation (if memory serves) if the pitcher could only get a bunt down. Not up to Terry to execute for them, of course, but somebody's got to answer for the hopelessly casual attention to the finer points this team has shown under his watch. I think the pitchers have, in general, done a better job with most of the fundamentals this year. I imagine we can look up the numbers somewhere, and it's something Terry did in fact mention he was going to work on them with this Spring. Last night you're referring to bot-6 when Thole led off with a single. I doubt that's make or break there and Tejada and Valdespin (who erased two lead-off singles from Tejada) made out after that. What was more damning was the very first batter of the game, when Young failed to snag the liner, then failed to get off the mound quick enough to get it after that. I know he's tall and whatnot, but a little better fielding his position perhaps makes that start a little different.

Edgy MD Jul 24 2012 08:05 AM Re: Freefall

And man, how do we end up with a Star Wars night featuring special guest... Snooki? And then give away a truck unrelated to either? That's a freefall promotional evening, is what it is.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2012 08:06 AM Re: Freefall

I'm thinking of Young last night and Santana in that game he got hammered late. But yeah, Nickeas' bunt sucked too obviously. I don't why we're afraid of replacing him with Ramon Hernandez. We're going to need a better RH hitting reserve catcher sooner or later. And the point wasn't how they'd done this year but how they'd done now for consecutive post-ASBs. They are playing poorly all around.

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 08:20 AM Re: Freefall

Edgy DC wrote: And man, how do we end up with a Star Wars night featuring special guest... Snooki? And then give away a truck unrelated to either? That's a freefall promotional evening, is what it is. That stuff's pretty comment, the stacking. hell it's popular elsewhere. I went to a Sangria festival on Saturday in the Hudson Valley and there was also a high school reunion (that we pissed off) and a wedding.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2012 09:52 AM Re: Freefall

Ceetar wrote: hell it's popular elsewhere. I went to a Sangria festival on Saturday in the Hudson Valley and there was also a high school reunion (that we pissed off) and a wedding. Yes, but were all three being thrown by the same people?

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 09:57 AM Re: Freefall

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ceetar wrote: hell it's popular elsewhere. I went to a Sangria festival on Saturday in the Hudson Valley and there was also a high school reunion (that we pissed off) and a wedding. Yes, but were all three being thrown by the same people? yeah, pretty much. we were on a private winery. All sports teams do that. there is always a giveaway unrelated to the 'irish night' dances before the game while there is a charity group being honored. Star Wars is just more involved.

Edgy MD Jul 24 2012 10:20 AM Re: Freefall

I got it the first time.

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 11:06 AM Re: Freefall

Edgy DC wrote: I got it the first time. want another picture of the truck?

Edgy MD Jul 24 2012 11:27 AM Re: Freefall

Movie party at Ceetar's! Popcorn's on me if you let me pick the first DVD. (Prince & Me! Prince & Me! *swoon*)

Swan Swan H Jul 24 2012 11:29 AM Re: Freefall

XXX then Mona Lisa Smile. Weirdest double-feature EVER.

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 11:31 AM Re: Freefall

Edgy DC wrote: Movie party at Ceetar's! Popcorn's on me if you let me pick the first DVD. (Prince & Me! Prince & Me! *swoon*) anything with Julia Stiles is good.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2012 11:41 AM Re: Freefall Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 24 2012 11:43 AM

Tell me you've watched Cold Mountain more than once, and I'll call you a liar and/or masochist.

Ceetar Jul 24 2012 11:42 AM Re: Freefall

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Tell me you've watched Cold Mountain more than once, and I'll call you a liar and/or masochist. I haven't even watched it once. I believe my wife watched that one without me.

metirish Jul 24 2012 11:44 AM Re: Freefall

Ha! , looks like we were all straining our necks looking at the movies The Last Samurai , very enjoyable movie....underrated perhaps.

The Second Spitter Jul 24 2012 12:17 PM Re: Freefall

And I wonder why I'm fallin' And I wonder why I'm off the ground Don't you ask me why? I'm letting go of my head Coz I’m fallin' [youtube]Ltq-kR6zfHQ[/youtube] Love this song.

Ashie62 Jul 24 2012 06:48 PM Re: Freefall

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Tell me you've watched Cold Mountain more than once, and I'll call you a liar and/or masochist. Vile film

metsmarathon Jul 24 2012 07:49 PM Re: Freefall

wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

metsguyinmichigan Jul 24 2012 08:01 PM Re: Freefall

Ceetar wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Tell me you've watched Cold Mountain more than once, and I'll call you a liar and/or masochist. I haven't even watched it once. I believe my wife watched that one without me. I saw that on television once. Goodness, that was awful! Like, Mets bullpen awful. What a downer! Between the goat-killing old lady and the ultra-evil soldiers killing people -- yuck!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2012 09:01 PM Re: Freefall

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Ceetar wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Tell me you've watched Cold Mountain more than once, and I'll call you a liar and/or masochist. I haven't even watched it once. I believe my wife watched that one without me. I saw that on television once. Goodness, that was awful! Like, Mets bullpen awful. What a downer! Between the goat-killing old lady and the ultra-evil soldiers killing people -- yuck! It's like 1993-- studded with loss and pain, ugly in about seven different ways, and costing way too much for the return.