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Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition
Frayed Knot Jul 24 2012 08:41 PM |
Wandy Rodriguez to the Pirates
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Ceetar Jul 24 2012 08:46 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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McCutchen counts for two hitters these days.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2012 08:46 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Go Buccos, I don't think this will jinx them but they look very likely to finish over .500 this year.
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metsguyinmichigan Jul 25 2012 04:34 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
The Dodgers will announce on Wednesday the acquisition of infielder Hanley Ramirez and left-handed reliever Randy Choate from the Miami Marlins for starting pitcher Nathan Eovaldi and Minor League pitcher Scott McGough, according to a baseball source.
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bmfc1 Jul 25 2012 05:05 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 25 2012 05:53 AM |
Not traded: Cole Hamels signs a 6 year deal to stay with the MFPs.
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Ceetar Jul 25 2012 05:43 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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The Philliies now have 66million invested in three pitchers for the next two years.
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metirish Jul 25 2012 05:54 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Wow, the Marlins dismantling already , what a joke franchise they are .
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Frayed Knot Jul 25 2012 06:14 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
While many media types in the pre-season were touting the Marlins based on their new park-induced spending spree, I remained on the wary side of the fence being skeptical of the team trying to spend their way not merely to get from good to over-the-top but in an attempt to leap directly from the bottom up to contending status. It rarely works and I didn't think it would this time either.
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metirish Jul 25 2012 06:25 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
And for whatever reason fans are not showing up to a brand new stadium. Did they get good pieces for Ramirez?
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seawolf17 Jul 25 2012 06:41 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Eovaldi's not a bad pitcher, but he's not an ace either.
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Edgy MD Jul 25 2012 06:47 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Just amazin' to commit overwhelmingly to Reyes and not Hanley. The Flushing grass musta looked mighty green from Florida. Or they have strong suspicions that Hanley will never be the MVP candidate (indeed, winner) they once had.
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Ceetar Jul 25 2012 06:48 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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And they're taking all those players to the junior circuit. wheeeee
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Frayed Knot Jul 25 2012 07:02 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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Hope the city didn't stick one of those clauses in where they'd guarantee to make-up any short-fall in anticipated revenue if the projected attendance boost didn't materialize. Hell, they gave them everything else.
Doesn't seem like much, does it, for a guy with that talent under control for 2-1/2 more seasons? Guess he gets to move back to SS now.
I know Boston was at least kicking the tires - which would be interesting because that's where he originally came from. Those rumors involved a whole expansive thing that, if true, made it a whole lot less likely to happen. Stuff like Bell & Hanley going in exchange for Crawford and someone else.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 25 2012 07:12 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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Well, yeah... only, onfield-performance-wise, he's more like the Pedro or Randy Johnson of LOOGYs. He's like Byrdak against sinister batters, only better and cheaper. Houston's sale/reload in preparation for the AL West move is exactly what they need now.
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Edgy MD Jul 25 2012 07:15 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Ha! You li-ike Cho-oate! You li-ike Cho-oate!
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metirish Jul 25 2012 07:16 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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If Boston could have pulled that kind of deal off it would have been a stunner. Loria better not say this wasn't a salary dump.....LA Times
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seawolf17 Jul 25 2012 07:21 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
I have a baseball game on my phone, and Choate is the one pitcher in the whole game I can't hit. He's (as far as I know) the only sidewinding lefty in the game, and his pitches just move so much that I can't get a handle on them. So I picture him to be vastly more unhittable than he really is.
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metirish Jul 25 2012 07:23 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
That settles it, if Seawolf , one of phone games great hitters can't hit Choate then he must be brilliant.
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seawolf17 Jul 25 2012 07:25 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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Pretty much, yes.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 25 2012 07:29 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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"Really, it's more of an action-painting-- like drip, but UNlike dripwork at the same time, if you follow-- inspired by the likes of Picabia, or Pollock. Just with more breast implants... and it actually loses value over time. But if you can't see the value in that, well... thanks for the cash all the same. Or, if you'd prefer, 'Buenos gracias.'"
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 25 2012 07:37 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Wait, Carlos Lee is on the Marlins? How did that happen?
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Mets – Willets Point Jul 25 2012 07:42 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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I passed a tv this morning showing ESPN with Alex Rodriguez on the screen and the ticker saying "Rodriguez to the Pirates" and was momentarily confused.
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Ashie62 Jul 25 2012 08:29 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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Speaking of joke franchises this season. Josh Johnson is still available..
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smg58 Jul 25 2012 09:02 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
I had a feeling, given the way that they offered more money instead of no-trade clauses to their incoming free agents, that the Marlins would start dealing if they weren't contending. There are seven or eight obvious reasons why they haven't been a big draw, the first six or seven of which have to do with the economy, but Marlins fans (such as they are) had every right to be skeptical of Loria's intentions.
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Ashie62 Jul 25 2012 09:39 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
It would be funny if they dumped Reyes...
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Nymr83 Jul 25 2012 09:42 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
I saw a stat that, at -12 runs below average, Hanley is the 2nd worst defensive "contributor" in the league this year. His bat may no longer be justifying his glove and the fish may be happy just to get rid of the contract
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Edgy MD Jul 25 2012 09:46 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Sure, it's just funny how quickly policy changes. Is he giving you value on the dollar? Well, as much as Reyes, more or less, and a whole lot more than Heath Bell.
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Frayed Knot Jul 25 2012 11:53 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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That's the nutty thing about what they're doing here. Four months ago they were adding FAs seemingly every week. Two months ago they were dealing away prospects to get established veterans. And now they're dumping established players in an attempt to get younger and cheaper.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 25 2012 02:36 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Does Reyes have a no-trade? Or should he have his bags packed, just in case?
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TransMonk Jul 25 2012 02:41 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Reyes' contract DOES NOT include no-trade protection.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 25 2012 02:42 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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Other than the fact that it's ridiculously backloaded, that is.
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Ceetar Jul 25 2012 02:45 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
only his 6th year, as per MLB CBA 10/5 rules.
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Frayed Knot Jul 26 2012 05:21 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Braves have "moved on" from Ryan Dempster according to GM Wren - which may be a good thing for Atlanta seeing as how Dempster has recently broken his run of great games to the tune of 2 losses and 7 earned over 12 innings in 2 games.
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Nymr83 Jul 26 2012 06:44 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
For the sake of my NL-only fantasy team, I hope Grienke is dealt to Atlanta or LA (also, robbing the Braves of a prospect for a 2 month rental in a year where the Mets aren't contending might be a decent thing.)
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Frayed Knot Jul 28 2012 06:36 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Well, as the old saying goes; 'Fuck your fantasy team'
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bmfc1 Jul 28 2012 08:13 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Good deal for the Nationals--they were supposed to face Greinke tomorrow.
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Nymr83 Jul 28 2012 08:38 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
That was probably as good as the brewers were going to get for a 2 month rental pitcher, so good job by them
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Ashie62 Jul 28 2012 11:07 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Zack Greinke in California. That could be interesting.
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metirish Jul 28 2012 09:21 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
the white sox traded for francisco liriano.
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Frayed Knot Jul 28 2012 09:33 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Rox deal (one-time NYM) Marco Scutaro to SF for an infield prospect.
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Vic Sage Jul 30 2012 08:33 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
i know Scutaro didn't do much in NY, but i liked him at the time and was a little sorry to seem him go. He was one of those scrappy AAAA-type players who hung around long enough to get a shot in the majors, and then the more he played, the better he got. He was like a SuperJoe McEwing (also on the team at the time), but a better hitter. And when compared to Rey Ordonez and Robbie Alomar, i was excited for ANYBODY who would reduce their playing time. He peaked later with Toronto and Boston, and while he didn't really have the range for SS and didn't hit well enough for 2B, he did a bit of everything and seemed like a guy who helped a team, at least a little.
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MFS62 Jul 30 2012 08:41 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
I feel the same about Marco. And Jeff Keppinger, too. I wish them well wherever they go (except against the Mets, of course).
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Vic Sage Jul 30 2012 09:12 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
here's why i don't have the same affection for Keppinger, though i totally understand why you or others might:
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Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 09:53 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Huston Street - long a target of trade speculation - instead just signed at 2-year extension with the Padres.
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Vic Sage Jul 30 2012 10:36 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
could he still be traded?
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Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:59 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
All those Cliff Lee rumors have brought me to the realization that he's the new David Cone.
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Ashie62 Jul 30 2012 12:14 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
If Pence gets traded again he may be the new somebody.
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Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 10:20 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Cubs catcher Geovany Soto - once the 2008 NL rookie of the year but not much since - goes to the Rangers for a minor league arm.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2012 07:42 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Rumor had it the Mets were talking to the Cubs about him, prior to the July freefall.
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Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 08:42 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
-- The Braves acquired right-handed-hitting outfielder Reed Johnson and left-hander Paul Maholm from the Cubs in exchange for two Minor League pitchers, one of them heralded pitching prospect Arodys Vizcaino.
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Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 11:08 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
The Phillies have backed up the truck, thrown in the towel and given up the ghost, not necessarily in that order. Victorino to the Dodgers, Pence to the Giants. The Victorino deal is official and the Pence deal is not yet, but he's a goner, reports say.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2012 11:10 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
And Cliff Lee may also be on his way out.
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Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 11:16 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Ben, that last paragraph is positively Seussical.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2012 11:18 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
You're right! It was totally unintentional. I'm probably groggy with pre-jetlag.
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Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 11:19 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
The potential Hunter Pence deal probably involves Nate Schierholz going back the other way so we'd just be exchanging one enemy RF for another sometime during our current series.
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Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 11:23 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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Pretty cool on the Seuss thing, there.
Hitting the hell out of the ball in the PCL this year, though, and in his 40 PA with Toronto, so he could be a good grab of a guy who might just be blooming late. (And at 24, not as late as all that.)
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metirish Jul 31 2012 11:28 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2012 11:55 AM |
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not seeing that on the twatter but @DKnobler Tommy Joseph goes to Phils in Hunter Pence deal JonHeymanCBS rival gm says catching prospect tommy joseph who goes to #phillies from SF in pence deal is "GREAT" catching prospects , not a lot of them about.
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Ceetar Jul 31 2012 11:34 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
That mean they're considering not resigning Ruiz?
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Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 11:38 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Joseph just turned 21 and is in Double-A, so he's probably a year or two away.
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Ceetar Jul 31 2012 11:50 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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well yeah, I guess you take the best guy you can get and all. But seems like the Phillies are one of those teams that don't actually need a catcher, but probably need a guy at ANY other position.
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seawolf17 Jul 31 2012 11:51 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Philly outfield now empty; Heyman says Alderson just tied Jason Bay up and stuck him in the luggage compartment of an SFO-->PHL United flight.
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metirish Jul 31 2012 11:55 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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Nate Schierholz is in the deal like you said according to various hacks on Twitter......
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Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 01:33 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Jonathan Broxton to the Reds, Rosenthal reports. That's some bullpen they have.
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Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 01:46 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Marlins deal Gaby Sanchez to the Pirates
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 31 2012 01:50 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
I think Sandy's plan is to surge ahead on the subtractions of others.
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Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 01:51 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2012 02:08 PM |
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Now what we need is for Pence's travel plans to get screwed up (nothing serious, just some weather canceled flights or something) causing him to not arrive in SF until say Thursday night. That way the Giants will be playing short for the next couple games. John Sickels on Tommy Joseph -- Hitting .263/.317/.397 for Richmond, eight homers, 25 walks, 62 strikeouts in 300 at-bats. Has caught 48% of runners. Defense and plate discipline have improved, but power production is down. Sharp platoon split, kills lefties (.338/.386/.500) but struggled against right-handers (.236/.292/.359). and on Seth Rosin (the 3rd player going to Philly) -- 4.31 ERA with 68/18 K/BB in 56 innings for San Jose, 49 hits, 10 saves. Has pitched better than the ERA indicates, note strong K/IP ratio.
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Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 02:00 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Heyman -- "Appears Dempster is headed to the Rangers"
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The Second Spitter Jul 31 2012 02:38 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
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For 3B Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks. Wasn't a Christian Villanueva drafted by the Raptors a couple of years ao? Here are all deadline trades: [code]------------ CUBS GET: RHP Jacob Brigham RANGERS GET: C Geovanny Soto, cash considerations ------------ BRAVES GET: OF Reed Johnson, LHP Paul Maholm, cash considerations CUBS GET: RHP Jaye Chapman, RHP Arodys Vizcaino ------------ BLUE JAYS GET: RHP Brad Lincoln PIRATES GET: OF Travis Snider ------------ BLUE JAYS GET: RHP Steve Delabar MARINERS GET: OF Eric Thames ------------ BLUE JAYS GET: RHP Logan Bawcom, OF Leon Landry DODGERS GET: RHP Brandon League ------------ DODGERS GET: OF Shane Victorino PHILLIES GET: RHP Josh Lindblom, RHP Ethan Martin, player to be named later or cash considerations ------------ GIANTS GET: OF Hunter Pence PHILLIES GET: C Tommy Joseph, RHP Seth Rosin, OF Nate Schierholz ------------ CARDINALS GET: RHP Edward Mujica MARLINS GET: 3B Zack Cox ------------ DIAMONDBACKS GET: RHP Matt Albers, OF Scott Podsednik RED SOX GET: LHP Craig Breslow ------------ MARLINS GET: OF Gorkys Hernandez, competitive balance draft pick PIRATES GET: RHP Kyle Kaminska, 1B Gaby Sanchez ------------ REDS GET: RHP Jonathan Broxton ROYALS GET: LHP Donnie Joseph, RHP J.C. Sulbaran ------------ PIRATES GET: RHP Chad Qualls YANKEES GET: 3B Casey McGehee, cash considerations ------------ CUBS GET: RHP Kyle Hendricks, 3B Christian Villanueva RANGERS GET: RHP Ryan Dempster ------------ INDIANS GET: 1B Lars Anderson RED SOX GET: RHP Steven Wright[/code]
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 07:08 AM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
That's former can't-miss, you-can't-get-this-guy-for-Wagner Lars Anderson, yes?
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Frayed Knot Aug 03 2012 07:21 PM Re: Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition |
Yeah I know we're past the deadline, but ...
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