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Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Mets – Willets Point Jul 19 2012 02:44 PM

The news is abuzz that Romney will announce his VP candidate soon, so now is the time to get in your prediction in our quadrennial Pick the Republican VP Candidate Contest. Last time around Farmer Ted correctly picked Sarah Palin in those halcyon days when the rest of us didn't even know who she was.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 19 2012 02:46 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

I'll say Portman of Ohio.

sharpie Jul 19 2012 02:48 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

I'll go T-Paw.

TransMonk Jul 19 2012 02:50 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

So many choices for alliteration...Romney/Rubio, Romney/Ryan, Romney/Rice. I'll take the demon's spawn from my state: Ryan.

Swan Swan H Jul 19 2012 03:04 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Jindal

Edgy MD Jul 19 2012 03:07 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Jindal's right for so many reasons. Looks so false in front of the camera, though. Ryan would be a great choice for the country, as the debate is going to be centered around how to close the budget gap so he'll be in the center of it anyway. I don't see Romney risking so much on the pick though.

Mets – Willets Point Jul 19 2012 03:11 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Rand Paul, or maybe Paul Ryan. Some kind of Paul.

Swan Swan H Jul 19 2012 03:22 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Rand Paul, or maybe Paul Ryan. Some kind of Paul.

sharpie Jul 19 2012 03:36 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Looking back at the 4-year-ago link I see I picked Pawlenty then. If wrong this time I promise to pick him next time as well.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 19 2012 04:30 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Whoever is the poorest, bootstrappiest of the bunch, T-Paw, I guess.

Ashie62 Jul 19 2012 05:18 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Rubio

Chad Ochoseis Jul 19 2012 06:12 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Rand Paul, or maybe Paul Ryan. Some kind of Paul. I'm guessing Pawl Enty, for the same reason as JCL. Also, some name recognition and political experience. I'd been thinking Susana Martinez, but I don't see Romney taking that kind of risk when the election is almost a dead heat. She's more of a "what the hell, we're down by twelve, so let's try a Hail Mary" kind of pick.

Fman99 Jul 19 2012 07:13 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Jeremy Lin.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 19 2012 08:51 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

When shit gets weird, go with the Floridian. Rubio.

jerseyshore Jul 19 2012 09:59 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

susanah martinez, governor of New mexico

Edgy MD Jul 19 2012 10:30 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Rubio is 42 and looks about 21. In a debate, he'll look like he's asking Joe Biden if he can borrow the car.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2012 06:08 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

"And he'll galvanize the young people, because he's youngish-looking!" -Some pundits, somewhere Martinez is an interesting pick, but I really think he'll stick with Florida or the South (Haley from SC?).

metirish Jul 20 2012 06:22 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Chris Christie

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2012 06:57 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

metirish wrote: Chris Christie He's verbally taken himself out of it - not that that puts an end to things necessarily. He's also going to be the keynote speaker at the convention, something you wouldn't think would be the case if he were under consideration for the Veep job. But yaneverknow. This is also probably as good a time as any to point out that the VP choice almost never matters on the positive side for the candidate although the wrong pick (Sarah Palin) has been known to hurt now and then.

Edgy MD Jul 20 2012 07:27 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

It's still in many ways more interesting than the presidential primaries, because candidates are being pursued, rather than pursuing. What makes you a VP candidate is whether you can build coalitions, shatter assumptions, assuage fears, sacrifice your interests for a higher cause. What makes you a presidential candidate is whether you have an astoundingly high self-regard.

seawolf17 Jul 20 2012 09:27 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

I say Rubio also.

Edgy MD Jul 20 2012 09:30 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

"Hi, I'm here to pick up Courtney for the prom."

Ashie62 Jul 20 2012 10:39 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Edgy DC wrote: "Hi, I'm here to pick up Courtney for the prom." Josh Thole?

Mets – Willets Point Jul 20 2012 10:43 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Frayed Knot wrote: This is also probably as good a time as any to point out that the VP choice almost never matters on the positive side for the candidate although the wrong pick (Sarah Palin) has been known to hurt now and then. I doubt Palin hurt McCain much. She had (and still has) a lot of support from the Republican base who consider McCain a RINO. If anything hurt McCain it was a massive financial collapse under the GOPs watch a month before election day.

sharpie Jul 20 2012 10:47 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Considering that McCain lost the election quite convincingly, it was far more than the economic collapse. How Palin hurt was that it blunted his best argument: that he had experience and that we shouldn't trust the safety of the country to someone unproven. Then he picked a half-term governor who it seemed had hardly looked at a world map.

Edgy MD Jul 20 2012 10:59 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

She was a desperate measure in a desperate time, gave the campaign its best two weeks, but ultimately proved a liability. The team was losing hard and had to try something with a potential for a big payoff, despite its risk. She was the political equivalent of pinch-hitting your .220 hitting slugger. She hit a seventh-inning three-run homer to tie the game, but then they had to send her out to the field and she booted everything hit her way. Romney's situation certainly isn't that desperate, and he certainly seems far more risk averse.

seawolf17 Jul 20 2012 11:00 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Edgy DC wrote: She was a desperate measure in a desperate time, gave the campaign its best two weeks, but ultimately proved a liability. The team was losing hard and had to try something with a potential for a big payoff, despite its risk. She was the political equivalent of pinch-hitting your .220 hitting slugger. She hit a seventh-inning three-run homer to tie the game, but then they had to send her out to the field and she booted everything hit her way. Romney's situation certainly isn't that desperate, and he certainly seems far more risk averse. That's a good analogy, methinks.

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2012 11:00 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

I don't think McCain was going to win under almost any circumstance so I'm not trying to claim that the choice of Sarah P is what caused him to lose, only that I think she hurt him more than she helped. Sure she's popular with a portion of the Republican base, but she also turned off at least as many in the middle who really determine outcomes. Throw in the fact that there's little evidence that VPs sway voters towards their candidate in large enough numbers to turn just about any election and often don't even bring their home state into the win column.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2012 04:18 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

On election night I'm getting lotsa snacks and diet Pepsi. I believe it will be a late night.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2012 04:39 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

I find that bourbon works better, either way. Really, though... it's virtually all academic. VP choices do less to get people to the booth than gay-baiting ballot initiatives do.

Nymr83 Jul 20 2012 05:42 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

I really have no clue. My guess will be Sen. Portman in a bid for Idaho, but I just dont see anyone exciting.

Mets – Willets Point Jul 20 2012 06:04 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Nymr83 wrote: I really have no clue. My guess will be Sen. Portman in a bid for Idaho, but I just dont see anyone exciting. Too bad it won't be Natalie Portman. That would be exciting. She wasn't born in the USA though.

Swan Swan H Aug 10 2012 10:00 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Rumors have ol' Willard picking Paul Ryan, with the announcement happening Saturday in Virginia.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2012 06:15 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Score one for the rumor mill.

G-Fafif Aug 11 2012 06:43 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Ryan is first major-party veep nominee to share last name with previous Met since Barry Goldwater's 1964 selection of Bill Miller -- or as Casey Stengel called him, Nelson.

Mets – Willets Point Aug 11 2012 08:50 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Rand Paul, or maybe Paul Ryan. Some kind of Paul. Oh yeah, prognosticator prime!

TransMonk Aug 11 2012 09:05 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

TransMonk wrote: So many choices for alliteration...Romney/Rubio, Romney/Ryan, Romney/Rice. I'll take the demon's spawn from my state: Ryan. I'll emphasize demon spawn. I don't know that this pick even gets him Wisconsin.

Ashie62 Aug 11 2012 09:09 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Congrats T-Monk...he's gone from your state.

Swan Swan H Aug 11 2012 09:20 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Fox News already has a timeslot reserved for Ryan's show beginning in December.

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2012 11:02 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Damn, my guess was Meg Ryan TransMonk wrote: I don't know that this pick even gets him Wisconsin. VP choices not picking up their own state for their party would be nothing unusual.

Kong76 Aug 11 2012 02:09 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

He's very anti-abortion, and we all know that all that really matters is what a woman does with her body and what might be growing inside of it. I can't see this team dethroning the disaster that exists so it's gonna be four more years.

Gwreck Aug 11 2012 08:28 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Frayed Knot wrote: VP choices not picking up their own state for their party would be nothing unusual. Winning tickets where the VP nominee doesn't win their own state are unusual, however. Last time was when Nixon won in '68 but did not carry Maryland.

Ashie62 Aug 12 2012 11:21 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

I believe Ryan has scared every senior or senior to be in the US.

MFS62 Aug 12 2012 12:56 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Ashie62 wrote: I believe Ryan has scared every senior or senior to be in the US. The funniest are those signs that say things like 'Keep the Government away from my Medicare". And they have shown up at pro- conservative rallies, too. Later

Edgy MD Aug 13 2012 06:54 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Didn't know Ryan was selected until this morning. Probably the healthiest choice we could have had as a country, as much of the debate is going to center around his budget anyhow. OE: said as much on 7/19. Boo, me.

Chad Ochoseis Aug 13 2012 08:03 AM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Ashie62 wrote: I believe Ryan has scared every senior or senior to be in the US. The irony being that Ryan's plan preserves Medicare for anyone born before 1957. Depending on your view of government's role in funding health care, you may think that his plan rocks or you may think that it's the worst idea since the DH rule. But one thing it doesn't do is affect Medicare for people who are currently receiving it.

Nymr83 Aug 15 2012 12:38 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

The chances that it decides the election are slim, but I don't know if this choice represents a good strategy. The Republican narrative for this election should be "this is a referendum on Obama and his failed economic policies" while this pick instead draws attention to Ryan's own (non-mainstream) policies. I would have gone safe and innocuous, pushed Romney as the economic expert and gone with someone like Sandoval/Portman to try and pull a swing state.

seawolf17 Aug 15 2012 12:46 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Nymr83 wrote: The chances that it decides the election are slim, but I don't know if this choice represents a good strategy. The Republican narrative for this election should be "this is a referendum on Obama and his failed economic policies" while this pick instead draws attention to Ryan's own (non-mainstream) policies. I would have gone safe and innocuous, pushed Romney as the economic expert and gone with someone like Sandoval/Portman to try and pull a swing state. I'd vote for Natalie Portman. But eff Sandoval after the whole All-Star Game thing.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:33 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

It brings math to the election...how bout that.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:35 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Ashie62 wrote: I believe Ryan has scared every senior or senior to be in the US. The irony being that Ryan's plan preserves Medicare for anyone born before 1957. Depending on your view of government's role in funding health care, you may think that his plan rocks or you may think that it's the worst idea since the DH rule. But one thing it doesn't do is affect Medicare for people who are currently receiving it. Most of this board will be affected by Ryan's plan until Mitt sees he is going to lose Florida and backs away.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:36 PM Re: Pick GOP VP 2B PDQ

Wheres Valadius with all this? Is Menendez under indictment yey?