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Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 07:32 AM

So, pow-pow-pow, 14 dead at a Dark Night Rises screening.

TransMonk
Jul 20 2012 07:48 AM
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Sickening and sad.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 20 2012 08:17 AM
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Raise your hand if you have a douchebag Facebook pal who took this opportunity to push a pro-gun agenda.

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 08:17 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
The Second Spitter wrote:
On a final note, it is somewhat unfortunate the franchise will be rebooted after this, as some other members of Batman's rogues gallery may have benefited from the more seriously-toned approch. I was especially looking forward to Batman locking horns with the villain known as RUSH, the loopy right-wing shock jock who bores innocent civilians to death with incredulous stories of liberal conspiracies.

How about some KGBEAST action?

I never understand why they insist on rebooting. Change actors, fine, I get all that, but do you really have to keep going back to origin stories?

Particularly with Batman/Spiderman that even the general public knows well. There are thousands upon thousands of cool comics/stories with these guys. Just go the the Dr Who/James Bond route the story isn't anchored to one actor.

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 08:18 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Raise your hand if you have a douchebag Facebook pal who took this opportunity to push a pro-gun agenda.

anti-gun agenda no?

I haven't checked. I'm sure it's there. People are always pushing agendas and I just laugh at them.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 20 2012 08:22 AM
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No, I meant pro-gun. Sarah Palinesque 'God bless the victims of this tragedy, if only an armed citizenry were watching this movie blah blah blah...' blullshit

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 08:32 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
No, I meant pro-gun. Sarah Palinesque 'God bless the victims of this tragedy, if only an armed citizenry were watching this movie blah blah blah...' blullshit

geeze, that spin didn't even occur to me.

TransMonk
Jul 20 2012 08:40 AM
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Probably because that spin only makes sense to people with mild to severe brain damage.

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 08:42 AM
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seeing some bad parenting agenda going around too looks like.

It is possible to talk/grieve/discuss a news story/tragedy without breaking it down like you would a sports game right?

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 08:55 AM
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Where's the violent-entertainment-begets-violent-culture angle?

A little time to grieve and digest before the finger-pointing would be nice.

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 09:01 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Where's the violent-entertainment-begets-violent-culture angle?

A little time to grieve and digest before the finger-pointing would be nice.

I saw one of those too.

Grand Theft Auto specifically.

themetfairy
Jul 20 2012 09:17 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
No, I meant pro-gun. Sarah Palinesque 'God bless the victims of this tragedy, if only an armed citizenry were watching this movie blah blah blah...' blullshit

Yeah, I saw one person post a "this is why I carry" diatribe.

Sickening.

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 10:10 AM
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Youngest victim was three months old. Ugh.

TransMonk
Jul 20 2012 10:12 AM
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French premiere cancelled today.

This event may severely cut into TDKR's box office returns.

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 10:20 AM
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They would do well to write it off by donating any and all profits to appropriate beneficiaries, starting, of course, with the victims and families.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 20 2012 10:40 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 20 2012 11:17 AM

If everyone was trained to use firearms and carried them everywhere they go, shootings like this wouldn't happen. Most criminals wouldn't dare to try and would be taken out swiftly if they did. Just think of how the army who all have access to firearms and some of the best weapons training in the world responded to the Ft. Hood incident. Oh wait...

Frayed Knot
Jul 20 2012 11:07 AM
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What is it about this movie?
Not that I think the shooting spree had anything to do with the content (it couldn't, could it?) but a couple of days ago I was reading about a web site shutting down because of on-line threats being made against those reviewers who didn't give it good enough reviews.

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 11:30 AM
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I'm not endorsing this perspective, because it's woefully premature, but there's chatter out there that the perp is an Occupy guy who thought the movie presented characters analogous to Occupiers in a negative light.

seawolf17
Jul 20 2012 11:33 AM
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And there's chatter that he's a "registered Democrat," and one pundit who claimed he was a Tea Partier. Eff all that.

Who brings a six-year-old to a midnight showing of an R-rated movie, by the way?

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 20 2012 11:45 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I'm not endorsing this perspective, because it's woefully premature, but there's chatter out there that the perp is an Occupy guy who thought the movie presented characters analogous to Occupiers in a negative light.

That's as dumb as someone saying that the character Bane represents Bain Capital.

seawolf17
Jul 20 2012 11:55 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
I'm not endorsing this perspective, because it's woefully premature, but there's chatter out there that the perp is an Occupy guy who thought the movie presented characters analogous to Occupiers in a negative light.

That's as dumb as someone saying that the character Bane represents Bain Capital.

Bane was created in 1993 by the same conspiracy-minded folks who put the fake birth announcement in the Honolulu papers in 1961.

metirish
Jul 20 2012 12:10 PM
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NRA official tweet this morning.....

NRA responds to tweet

Here is the official comment from the NRA regarding the tweet:

A single individual, unaware of events in Colorado, tweeted a comment that is being completely taken out of context.

metsmarathon
Jul 20 2012 12:42 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
If everyone was trained to use firearms and carried them everywhere they go, shootings like this wouldn't happen. Most criminals wouldn't dare to try and would be taken out swiftly if they did. Just think of how the army who all have access to firearms and some of the best weapons training in the world responded to the Ft. Hood incident. Oh wait...

nobody's carrying on a military base except the security. the guns are all kinda locked up. they're funny like that.

Nymr83
Jul 20 2012 12:51 PM
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NRA official tweet this morning.....

NRA responds to tweet

Here is the official comment from the NRA regarding the tweet:

A single individual, unaware of events in Colorado, tweeted a comment that is being completely taken out of context.

taking things completely out of context to get attention for themselves is what the media does best!

Centerfield
Jul 20 2012 01:27 PM
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Just awful. I guess we will soon see metal detectors at movie theaters.

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 01:29 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
Just awful. I guess we will soon see metal detectors at movie theaters.

strip searches and removing your shoes as well.

Sunrise Multiplex in Valley Stream has had a metal detector for decades.

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 01:30 PM
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I remember detectors at the Sunrise Multiplex at least as far back 1991.

Ceetar
Jul 20 2012 01:40 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I remember detectors at the Sunrise Multiplex at least as far back 1991.

They also have(had?) ice cream at the concessions from a semi-famous local ice cream place, that I cannot recall the name of.

Frayed Knot
Jul 20 2012 03:22 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I remember detectors at the Sunrise Multiplex at least as far back 1991.

Probably installed after the Christmas night (1990) shooting at the opening night showing of 'Godfather Part III'
That was the first thing I thought of after hearing about this this morning.
What is it about premiers?

themetfairy
Jul 20 2012 03:26 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
I remember detectors at the Sunrise Multiplex at least as far back 1991.

Probably installed after the Christmas night shooting at the opening night showing of 'Godfather Part III'
That was the first thing I thought of after hearing about this this morning.
What is it about premiers?

Big crowds.

Lots of excitement.

Bigger headlines....

Nymr83
Jul 20 2012 04:16 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
I remember detectors at the Sunrise Multiplex at least as far back 1991.

Probably installed after the Christmas night shooting at the opening night showing of 'Godfather Part III'
That was the first thing I thought of after hearing about this this morning.
What is it about premiers?

Big crowds.

Lots of excitement.

Bigger headlines....

I can understand wanting to shoot someone after the huge letdown of Godfather III

Frayed Knot
Jul 20 2012 04:31 PM
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That one (IIRC) was some kind of turf-war where several belligerents happened to find themselves in the same theatre at the same time.
Nothing like the obviously pre-planned spree in Colorado.

Ashie62
Jul 20 2012 04:34 PM
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My personal experience with guns only runs to our old high school Rifle team.

I became afraid of guns then, and some of the people on the team.

They tend to get used..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 20 2012 04:51 PM
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I remember when all shootings at movie theaters were "apparently gang-related." (Y'know, because they happened at movies like "New Jack City," or "Juice.")

Nymr83
Jul 20 2012 05:40 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
That one (IIRC) was some kind of turf-war where several belligerents happened to find themselves in the same theatre at the same time.
Nothing like the obviously pre-planned spree in Colorado.

I'd dispute the notion that a shooting isn't "pre-planned" when someone leaves their house with a gun and then takes shots at someone because they belong to a rival gang/group. "I'll shoot them if i happen to see them" is still pre-meditation imo.

The Second Spitter
Jul 20 2012 06:11 PM
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Shame Charlton Heston's dead. He could have attended the hastily organized NRA Rally in Aurora, CO which I'm sure will take place next week.

Seriously wtf is wrong with CO?

Columbine, Buell Elementary, and now this. What's one impressive CV.

Edit: Buell Elementary was in Michigan.

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 08:49 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
I'm not endorsing this perspective, because it's woefully premature, but there's chatter out there that the perp is an Occupy guy who thought the movie presented characters analogous to Occupiers in a negative light.

That's as dumb as someone saying that the character Bane represents Bain Capital.

I haven't seen the film, and I certainly had no intention to before the shooting, but I understand from the reviews that the film has characters that reviewers are seeing as analogous to Occupy protesters.

The Second Spitter
Jul 20 2012 09:21 PM
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I'm not endorsing this perspective, because it's woefully premature, but there's chatter out there that the perp is an Occupy guy who thought the movie presented characters analogous to Occupiers in a negative light.

That's as dumb as someone saying that the character Bane represents Bain Capital.

I haven't seen the film, and I certainly had no intention to before the shooting, but I understand from the reviews that the film has characters that reviewers are seeing as analogous to Occupy protesters.

You could interpret it this way, but I'll be naive and say it was coincidence:

MAJOR SPOILER TO THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (CODED IN YELLOW): A major plot point to the film involves Bane literally "occupying" the Gotham Stock Exchange (filmed on the location outside the Broad Street subway station, of course), executing some bogus backdated trades, holds and kills hostages and then escapes.

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2012 09:29 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure the script was mostly developed prior to the flowering of the Occupy movement. My only point was that if trigger boy was seeing a parallel (which, I must underscore, is still largely a point of speculation), he wasn't the only one. In fact, I would guess that, since it was a midnight opening night showing, any parallel that offended him was a second-hand understanding gleaned from the reviews.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 20 2012 10:46 PM
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The Second Spitter wrote:

Edit: Buell Elementary was in Michigan.

A school I once covered. It's in a Flint suburb that's more of an extension of the city, and not a good one. I'd just started working for the paper in Grand Rapids, but still living in the Flint area when that happened. Interviewed the mother of the girl at the Million Mom March. Horrible.

The Second Spitter
Jul 20 2012 11:15 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:

Edit: Buell Elementary was in Michigan.

A school I once covered. It's in a Flint suburb that's more of an extension of the city, and not a good one. I'd just started working for the paper in Grand Rapids, but still living in the Flint area when that happened. Interviewed the mother of the girl at the Million Mom March. Horrible.

I remember from the movie it was near a GM Plant that had been shutdown. A friend looked into this case in detail for her Doctorate. The perpetrator is readily available on fb in case anybody's interested. (I had second thoughts about posting the link).

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2012 10:20 AM
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From the "I thought they were watching every thing we do" file: A private citizen orders 6,000 rounds over the internet and red lights don't go off somewhere?

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 21 2012 10:41 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
From the "I thought they were watching every thing we do" file: A private citizen orders 6,000 rounds over the internet and red lights don't go off somewhere?

No, the suspect is white.

Nymr83
Jul 21 2012 11:43 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
From the "I thought they were watching every thing we do" file: A private citizen orders 6,000 rounds over the internet and red lights don't go off somewhere?

No, the suspect is white.

a non-white suspect would have bought them out of the trunk of a car, not over the internet :)

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2012 11:57 AM
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I guess I brought this on myself.

bmfc1
Jul 22 2012 04:02 PM
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One of the victims was a Mets fan:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31 ... etail.html