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metirish
Jul 23 2012 01:17 PM

Rangers trade foir Rick Nash and give up not much of anything , Artem Anisimov, Brandon Dubinsky, Tim Erixon, and a 1st round pick.


Oh Baby!

Ceetar
Jul 23 2012 01:24 PM
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Islanders supposedly made a trade for some guy on the Ducks, who apparently is trying to find a loophole to coming here. doh.

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 01:36 PM
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Note to self: Find out who Rick Nash is ... no rush, anytime between now and October would be fine.

Swan Swan H
Jul 23 2012 01:45 PM
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FK, all you need to know is that Rick Nash is way better than any of the guys they got rid of is now or will ever be. A big, strong winger who has been very productive while being the only thing resembling a scorer on his team for years.

The Rangers also get back a third round pick and a minor leaguer - bookkeeping, really. This is huge, and if they sign Shane Doan it will set them up nicely for the next few years.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 23 2012 02:09 PM
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A Rangers first-rounder isn't likely that much more valuable than a BlueJacket third-rounder, either.

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 02:29 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
FK, all you need to know is that Rick Nash is way better than any of the guys they got rid of is now or will ever be. A big, strong winger who has been very productive while being the only thing resembling a scorer on his team for years.


My NHL knowledge peaked sometime during the Reagan administration.

Vic Sage
Jul 24 2012 09:56 AM
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Nash - Richards - Callahan
Hagelin - Stepan - Gaborik
Rupp - Boyle - Kreider

McDonagh - Girardi
Del Zotto - Staal

Plus, i'll take Shane Doan for a few mill, Alex.

Then we'll be ready to RUMMMMMMMMMBLE!

TheOldMole
Jul 25 2012 08:30 PM
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They gave up good value. But they really needed one more goal scorer.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 25 2012 08:44 PM
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They gave up ~2 fewer pieces (like, Del Zotto-shaped pieces) than they would have had to late last year.

Swan Swan H
Jul 25 2012 08:50 PM
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Yup. Nash might have helped in the playoffs, but Sather waited them out and ultimately gave up the least he could expect to for a guy like Nash, and that will pay off for years to come. Well done, I believe.

Frayed Knot
Sep 21 2012 06:36 AM
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Note to NHL: If you find yourself in the midst of your second Management-caused work stoppage in less than a decade and the third in the last seventeen years, it's probably time to re-think your entire business model.

metirish
Sep 21 2012 06:42 AM
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Note to NHL: If you find yourself in the midst of your second Management-caused work stoppage in less than a decade and the third in the last seventeen years, it's probably time to re-think your entire business model.



yeah really, all on Bettman's watch too......

Frayed Knot
Sep 21 2012 07:04 AM
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On his watch? Hell, it's at his behest.
Although actually I think the mid-90s lost half-season was pre-Bettman, but whatever.

The thing is, the NHL owners are now exactly where the MLB owners were during the '94 season strike/cancellation, in a spot where the fight is really more amongst the owners than it is an owner v player brawl. In both cases the owners were/are unable to come up with a way to split the money between themselves, an argument which pits the richer ones against the bottom feeders to decide where the whole capitalism vs socialism line should fall. The owners' answer, then and now, is essentially that because the richer clubs don't want to financially prop up the poorer ones the league as a whole wants to take the needed money out of the players' share.
IOW, they want to fix the the agreement which served as the last fix because that fix really didn't fix what they designed it to fix. And remember that the owners got virtually everything they wanted with that last fix meaning it's essentially their fix that they're trying to fix.


It's there's ever a North American league which is ripe for a English football-style division with promotion/relegation system it's the NHL (well, the NBA too is already pretty much at least mentally stratified between the glamour franchises and the ones serving as schedule fillers, only they're not nearly as desperate). I don't see it happening because the ones getting demoted would suddenly see their franchise values plummet and they'll argue that that's not a situation they agreed to or were prepared for when they got into this business. But, in the end, if it's a choice between that and outright large scale contraction/going out of business options, it might be the smart move.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 21 2012 08:12 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
It's there's ever a North American league which is ripe for a English football-style division with promotion/relegation system it's the NHL (well, the NBA too is already pretty much at least mentally stratified between the glamour franchises and the ones serving as schedule fillers, only they're not nearly as desperate). I don't see it happening because the ones getting demoted would suddenly see their franchise values plummet and they'll argue that that's not a situation they agreed to or were prepared for when they got into this business. But, in the end, if it's a choice between that and outright large scale contraction/going out of business options, it might be the smart move.


I've long thought this same thing myself. It would also play a role in the trend of recent decades of franchises awarded/moved to Sun Belt cities that pay to be "major league" versus Canadian cities that actually have a hockey fan base. In pro/rel you can have a hockey team if you make it competitive and fiscally viable enough to participate in the top league.

TheOldMole
Sep 23 2012 10:59 AM
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I don't see the NHL doing this, but they've actually been more innovative than most pro sports.

Frayed Knot
Sep 26 2012 11:07 AM
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TheOldMole wrote:
I don't see the NHL doing this, but they've actually been more innovative than most pro sports.


The one thing I like that the NHL has done in recent years was their centralization of replay review of goals. Their initial forays into replay technology took them a while before they got all the kinks out, but I think they've got it right now.
Not sure what other innovations you're thinking of.



Meanwhile, Edmonton's owners met with Seattle city officials this week with an eye towards moving there if they can't weasel a new arena out of their current city.
And so it goes.

Edgy MD
Sep 26 2012 11:09 AM
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Just finished Slaughterhouse Five about ten minutes ago.

Ceetar
Oct 24 2012 08:24 AM
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Islanders set to make a big announcement from Brooklyn this afternoon. Twitter rumor sounds like moving* to Brooklyn.

*of course, that's like 2015, and also requires the NHL to actually play games.

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2012 02:53 PM
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And it is indeed a move to Brooklyn starting in fall 2015 (unless another lockout is on the sked for that year - every three years seems about right these days)
It's sad, but also inevitable, and those who run Nassau County (not necessarily the ones there now, but those prior to them) have only themselves to blame.

For years the corrupt, one-party County & Town of Hempstead gov't treated the Nassau Coliseum and the area surrounding it as their own private fiefdom and spent much of their time dragging their feet on updating and/or replacing that building as they fought over who was going to get the lion's share of the graft and kickbacks for any new project. But while they were busy haggling over the specifics of their corruption they suddenly started to get voted out of office and found themselves in a situation where, with deficits booming, they had to look for a deal requiring voter approval in a weakened economy. When that route predictably fell though there was suddenly a alternate opportunity just a few miles to the west that allowed the team to bypass all the entrenched bureaucracy and insider bullshit of their home area.

metirish
Oct 24 2012 03:07 PM
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It is sad that a team with their history is moving, like you said though it was inevitable......Brooklyn sure beats Kansas City though.

Name?

Brooklyn ??
New York ??

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 24 2012 03:10 PM
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I'm totally "psyched" for the "Islanders" to play "hockey" in Brooklyn.

Swan Swan H
Oct 24 2012 03:13 PM
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They say the name is not changing. They're going to the western edge, but they will remain on Long Island physically if not spiritually.

metirish
Oct 24 2012 03:52 PM
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That's just silly I think, they should make a clean break. You are not playing on Long Island you WangKer.

Ceetar
Oct 24 2012 05:23 PM
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metirish wrote:
That's just silly I think, they should make a clean break. You are not playing on Long Island you WangKer.


sure they are. And besides, they're the _New York_ Islanders. There is no imaginary border where people in Rosedale root for the Rangers and people in Valley Stream root for the Islanders. So while they're moving away from some Suffolk county fans, they're moving closer to other fans. Still in the same area as their fanbase after all, so they're not 'breaking' anything.

Plus now fans can actually get to games on weekdays that work in the city. And it's a much nicer place near a transit hub.

metirish
Oct 24 2012 06:29 PM
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I guess I never knew Brooklyn was in long Island.

d'Kong76
Oct 24 2012 06:47 PM
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Are they going to be called the Brooklyn Something? Never understood
why the Dodgers and now the Nets are the Brooklyn Whatevers. The
Mets aren't the Queens Metropolitans, the Skanks aren't the Bronx
Yankees? The Jets and Giants aren't the East Rutherford ....

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 24 2012 07:17 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
Are they going to be called the Brooklyn Something? Never understood
why the Dodgers and now the Nets are the Brooklyn Whatevers. The
Mets aren't the Queens Metropolitans, the Skanks aren't the Bronx
Yankees? The Jets and Giants aren't the East Rutherford ....



The Dodgers were in Brooklyn when it was still an independent city.

d'Kong76
Oct 24 2012 07:23 PM
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They became the Dodgers in the late 20's early 30's

themetfairy
Oct 24 2012 07:23 PM
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metirish wrote:
I guess I never knew Brooklyn was in long Island.


On Long Island.

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2012 07:28 PM
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American pro (big four) sports teams [u:3s37qx06]without[/u:3s37qx06] an official city or state name in their name:

Brooklyn Nets
Tampa Bay Rays/Buccaneers/Lightning
Golden State Warriors
New England Patriots
Carolina Panthers & Hurricanes

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2012 07:34 PM
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metirish wrote:
That's just silly I think, they should make a clean break. You are not playing on Long Island you WangKer.


New York Islanders will still make sense.
They'll still be in New York and they'll still be on Long Island.



And while I know that most Queens & (especially) Brooklyn people don't think of themselves as being on Long Island, I've often wondered how many of them actually have no idea that they are on Long Island.
I suspect it's a lot.

Ceetar
Oct 24 2012 07:45 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:



And while I know that most Queens & (especially) Brooklyn people don't think of themselves as being on Long Island, I've often wondered how many of them actually have no idea that they are on Long Island.
I suspect it's a lot.


You think the bridges and tunnels they have to go over/through to get OFF the Island would be the clue.

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2012 07:53 PM
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Or the lack of bridges and tunnels they're required to go through/over to get to Nassau County ... although I suspect the retort to that from many of them would be: "why the hell would I ever want to go to Nassau County?"

metirish
Oct 24 2012 08:06 PM
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Well, apparently I have learned something new today.......wow

Ceetar
Oct 24 2012 08:12 PM
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Or the lack of bridges and tunnels they're required to go through/over to get to Nassau County ... although I suspect the retort to that from many of them would be: "why the hell would I ever want to go to Nassau County?"


to see the Islanders.

well, for a little while more anyway.

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2012 08:40 PM
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metirish wrote:
Well, apparently I have learned something new today.......wow


Of course you are somewhat excused from not knowing on account of not growing up in this country much less this area.
I just get a kick out of those folks (and I've talked to a few) who have lived in Brooklyn and/or Queens their entire lives and insist that they're on some land mass that's separate from Long Island.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 24 2012 08:54 PM
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Wouldn't have expected to be but I'm kind of excited about this, if only because the prospect of going to a home Islanders game just went from nearly impossible to almost probable.

Vic Sage
Oct 24 2012 09:06 PM
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when i was attending Stony Brook in the early 80s, I was not only a Brooklyn kid having to put up with the bumpkins of deep Suffolk, I was a Ranger fan dealing with asshole Islander fans as they won cup after cup. That they have endured a prolonged irrelevance delights me. That they are soon going to infest Kings County like a pestilence does not. But it doesn't matter where they move... Potvin will always suck!

MFS62
Oct 24 2012 09:56 PM
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Vic, I haven't been a fan of any hockey team for many years (and I used to root for the Rangers when Andy Bathgate played for them). But the history of the Islanders will be indelibly etched in those four consecutive Stanley Cup championship banners that will hang from the rafters no matter where they play. You sound like a Yankee fan who sneers at the Mets' World Series wins. C'mon, you're better than that.

Now that we've got that out fo the way, I missed the press conference. How will they address the NHL minimum seating capacity? I read the Barclays Center won't be initially configured for hockey to have that minimum number.

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2012 10:21 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
Now that we've got that out fo the way, I missed the press conference. How will they address the NHL minimum seating capacity? I read the Barclays Center won't be initially configured for hockey to have that minimum number.


I don't understand this.
Indoor arenas (basketball/hockey) are being built larger these days than those of a generation ago - like around 20K or sometimes higher, up from the days when they were mostly in the 14-16 range. I don't know what Barclays is designed for but I can't believe it's much under 20K if at all, and even once you adjust for the somewhat wider surface that hockey requires it couldn't possibly be lower than what the Nassau Coliseum holds.
IOW, the Isles' future home almost has to be bigger than their current one (which they weren't filling anyway) so I can't possibly see the league objecting to a once-great team getting out of the oldest and worst building on the circuit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 24 2012 11:02 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
when i was attending Stony Brook in the early 80s, I was not only a Brooklyn kid having to put up with the bumpkins of deep Suffolk, I was a Ranger fan dealing with asshole Islander fans as they won cup after cup. That they have endured a prolonged irrelevance delights me. That they are soon going to infest Kings County like a pestilence does not. But it doesn't matter where they move... Potvin will always suck!


Seconded, by a younger ex-Manhattanite who remembers a LOT of frontrunners in his early-'80s elementary school.

I believe the Barclays can accommodate well over the NHL minimum... it's just that it'll only initially accommodate an estimated 14.5K.

Ceetar
Oct 25 2012 05:47 AM
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yeah Barclays is at 14.5 or something but I think there was something about easily adding another 1000 seats. They do have three years after all, because the Islanders lease at the Colliseum is through 2014-2015 season. Unless they find a way out of that.

Frayed Knot
Oct 25 2012 06:25 AM
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What's the normal basketball seating for the place?
14.5 for hockey seems shockingly small for a modern arena.

Gwreck
Oct 25 2012 06:47 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I don't understand this.
Indoor arenas (basketball/hockey) are being built larger these days than those of a generation ago - like around 20K or sometimes higher, up from the days when they were mostly in the 14-16 range.


Most arenas are in the 17-19K range.

The only Hockey arenas with capacity of 20,000 or higher are the Bell Centre in Montreal (21,273, built in 1996) and Joe Louis Arena in Detroit (20,066, built in 1979).

There are five arenas with NBA capacities over 20k (Chicago, Philly, Washington, Cleveland and Detroit). All were built between 1988 and 1997.

I don't know what Barclays is designed for but I can't believe it's much under 20K if at all


17,734 NBA capacity.

Frayed Knot
Oct 25 2012 06:57 AM
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I wouldn't have thought that the gap between hoops and hockey would wind up being over 3,000 seats but, if so, I guess that explains things a bit.

sharpie
Oct 25 2012 07:52 AM
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I moved with my family from Long Island to California in 1972, the year the LI Coliseum opened. I remember my middle school biology teacher starting class breathlessly talking about the Jethro Tull concert he went to at the just-opened Coliseum. He gave the place (and the band) a rave. I only went there one time (a friend with tickets to see a lousy Yes show in the '80's). I'm sure I'll be in the Barclays Center more than I've been in the Coliseum (have tix to see Bob Dylan there the night before Thanksgiving) as I live in walking distance but it's still unlikely that I'll make it to an Islanders game.

MFS62
Oct 25 2012 08:08 AM
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Gwreck wrote:
17,734 NBA capacity.

That's the number I'd read. But a hockey rink takes up more floor space than a backetball court, so some seats would have to be removed when they put the ice down.

But I also heard some discussion about the pitch of the upper deck. It sounded like it would prevent fans from seeing action close to the near boards in a hockey game. But, hey, we had to stand to see everything closer than the faceoff circle at the old (49th street) Garden, too.

Later

Vic Sage
Oct 25 2012 08:43 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 25 2012 09:05 AM

You sound like a Yankee fan who sneers at the Mets' World Series wins. C'mon, you're better than that.


first of all, no i'm not.

secondly, you've got the metaphor (simile? whatever) backwards. The Rangers hadn't won a cup in like a 1000 years at that point (and only 1 since), while the Icelanders were winning the cup every fucking year, like it was such an easy thing to do. If anybody was a sneering Yankee fan, it was those drunken backwoods douchebag Islander asshats standing on line to fellate Mike Bossy that i had to put up with as they took over the Stony Brook campus every goddamn year i was there. While i didn't wish cancer on them exactly, i didn't and don't wish them well, either, and i'm grateful they have sucked for so long as payment for the 4 consecutive championships (clearly, a deal involving his satanic majesty was involved) and that they won't be the "Brooklyn" Islanders and will instead retain the generic NY appellation.

Ashie62
Oct 25 2012 08:47 AM
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Brooklyn SlingBlades

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 25 2012 11:07 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
They became the Dodgers in the late 20's early 30's


Ok the "Dodgers" didn't play in the city of Brooklyn, but the franchise formed in 1884 when Brooklyn was still a city, 14 years before the creation of the City of Greater New York.

Now the real question is how did the Harlem Globetrotters get their name. Harlem is not even a borough and the Globetrotters don't even have a home arena there.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 25 2012 12:34 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Brooklyn SlingBlades


The obvious alt-naming choice: Brooklyn Art-Ice-ans.

Swan Swan H
Oct 25 2012 12:40 PM
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I look forward to the return of the hip check to the NHL.

Frayed Knot
Nov 02 2012 04:05 PM
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The NHL's annual outdoor New Years Day 'Winter Classic' game - scheduled this year for the football stadium at U-Michigan - has been canceled due to the ongoing player lockout and the payments/publicity which would need to start ramping up in the near future in order to get that game going.
Many thought that, like the NBA and their TV-heavy Christmas Day games, the NHL would target the Winter Classic as their "drop dead date" for settling a deal with the players. Now that that is no longer an option, it's beginning to look increasingly like a complete lost season for the league.

metirish
Nov 02 2012 04:47 PM
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There are two other hockey fans I know at work, we were talking this morning " well at least they haven't canceled the winter classic", half an hour later they did. The season is next.

Ceetar
Nov 03 2012 08:07 AM
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this kinda sucks. I'm not gonna have to watch Nets games to get my sports fix in am I?

Swan Swan H
Nov 24 2012 05:00 PM
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With the NHL season still somewhere off in the distance, my son and my nephew are getting their live hockey fix via Cornell and Michigan, both top-20 teams, who are playing at Madison Square Garden tonight. Cornell has played BU at MSG three times in the past five years.

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 24 2012 05:22 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
With the NHL season still somewhere off in the distance, my son and my nephew are getting their live hockey fix via Cornell and Michigan, both top-20 teams, who are playing at Madison Square Garden tonight. Cornell has played BU at MSG three times in the past five years.


Cornell has the most awesomely obnoxious fan base. I've seen Harvard games where they've basically taken over the arena as the road team. It's kind of the closest thing we get to European football supporters in the US.

Swan Swan H
Jan 06 2013 08:50 AM
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Well, it looks like they'll be playing this season. An agreement has been reached and awaits the vote of the owners and the NHLPA, both of which are expected. As of now a 48 or 50 game season is likely to begin around January 19.

Ceetar
Jan 06 2013 08:55 AM
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Hockey!

Frayed Knot
Jan 06 2013 09:30 AM
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That news actually broke at like 5:00 this morning.
Unable to sleep, I had FAN on at that hour and when they first announced "Breaking News" I couldn't imagine what da fuck could possibly be breaking at that time of day and none of my guesses were good.

This news is, I guess, sorta good.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2013 08:02 PM
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Best-run league in sports.

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 06 2013 08:09 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Best-run league in sports.


They keep their arenas so clean.

Ceetar
Jan 06 2013 09:05 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Best-run league in sports.


certainly know how to adjust supply. People want 82 games, so they'll give us 50 to up the demand.

I did see some poll a couple of years ago that most NHL teams are near the top of the 'fan experience for the price' list of the major sports.

metirish
Jan 08 2013 10:01 AM
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This is hilarious



24 hours later

Dallas Stars ?@DallasStars
At least our #9 got the job done..... RT:" @DallasCowboys Similarly in the category of nobody-cares…the NHL is back!"


Cowboys apologized and Stats accepted

story here

http://deadspin.com/5974140/the-cowboys ... ck?tag=nfl

Swan Swan H
Jan 08 2013 10:08 AM
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It's Texas, so saddlebags at ten paces...

Swan Swan H
Jan 17 2013 06:43 PM
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Watching some NHL preview stuff. Rangers seem healthy, but John Amirante will miss singing the anthem on Opening Night due to a sprained toupee.

Ceetar
Jan 17 2013 10:21 PM
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Islanders are going all the way this year!

Frayed Knot
Jan 18 2013 06:08 AM
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48 games is close to what I'd consider a perfect length for a hockey season.
Now if only they had started it in November so it could end in April rather than as a lead-up to fireworks displays.

Ceetar
Jan 19 2013 06:44 PM
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Hockey's back! Islanders made it almost two periods without losing!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2013 08:43 PM
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I haven't watched a hockey game in 10 years probably, but watched Islanders-Devils tonite. Stoopit Islanders give up the game only what 2 minutes after tying? Aaargh. I think I'm closer to being an Islanders fan than a Rangers fan, as some of my HS friends are strong Islanders guys and they won all those cups while I was growing up. But I sort of rejected all things Long Island in my 20s and never cared much for hockey anywhoo. All that said, I'm oddly excited about the Islanders going to BK.

MFS62
Jan 21 2013 10:04 PM
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The Rangers' goalie paid his respects to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by taking the second half of Sunday's game off.

Later

Ceetar
Jan 28 2013 08:21 AM
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metirish
Feb 01 2013 11:52 AM
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Heard the Islanders radio guys call on the OT goal that beat the Devils last night, great call and rightly so, winning 5-4 ....at the top of his lungs..."and the Islanders have a share of first place"........which would be great if the season started when it was supposed to.


Anyway, Rangers can't score for all their scorers.

Ceetar
Feb 01 2013 12:31 PM
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That was a great Isles Devils game last night.

I don't think the Islanders scoring abilities are an illusion. Might be excited right up until first Mets pitch.

Frayed Knot
Mar 31 2013 06:48 AM
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So let me get this straight; the regular season is going to run through the end of April and then they're going to start with the multi-round playoffs in early May?!?
When's the SC finals going to wrap up ... in August just in time for training camps?

TheOldMole
Apr 03 2013 10:06 AM
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Rangers went out and got themselves a new Prust?

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 03 2013 10:08 AM
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Isn't it kind of late in the season for trades?

Frayed Knot
Apr 03 2013 10:32 AM
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With the whole season both shortened and delayed by the lockout, there's still close to 1/4 of the season still left to play -- so they're about at the same point as where MLB's trading deadline falls.

TheOldMole
Apr 03 2013 02:31 PM
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Rangers trade Gaborik! Inevitable, I think. Good in the long run, I hope.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 03 2013 03:47 PM
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"No mas Gabby," texted my Devils fan cousin.

"We haven't really HAD Gabby since the end of last year's regular season," replied I.

Ceetar
Apr 04 2013 05:29 AM
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I'd like to take this time to point out we made it all the way to baseball season with the Islanders in contention.

The Second Spitter
Apr 04 2013 05:44 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

This thread is racist.

themetfairy
Apr 23 2013 08:23 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Guess who's in the playoffs!

Frayed Knot
Apr 23 2013 08:59 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

The Second Spitter wrote:
This thread is racist.


Why, because the only thing in hockey that's black is the puck and they be smackin' that around all the time?

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 24 2013 07:54 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

themetfairy wrote:
Guess who's in the playoffs!


Um, 2/3's of the league?

Ceetar
Apr 24 2013 08:09 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
themetfairy wrote:
Guess who's in the playoffs!


Um, 2/3's of the league?


hey, it's only 16/30 really.

And no other of the 4 New Yorkish teams are in. ;-)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 24 2013 01:18 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Enjoy every minute of these playoffs, long-suffering Isles faithful.

Y'know, because there won't be many of them, given the Russian riverboat gambler you've got between the pipes.

metirish
Apr 24 2013 01:21 PM
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Excellent article on John Tavares, it will surprise you, trust me on that.



John Tavares, goal machine

themetfairy
Apr 24 2013 01:29 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Enjoy every minute of these playoffs, long-suffering Isles faithful.




Oh, I intend to!



And thanks Irish - that's a cool story!

Frayed Knot
May 07 2013 07:48 PM
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Ice-landers tie things up 2-2 in the always unpredictable NHL playoffs

themetfairy
May 07 2013 07:49 PM
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That was a game that could have gone either way - the score went back and forth quite a lot!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 09 2013 09:20 AM
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2-2 all around. This is fun.

Well, almost as fun as imagining Caps fans' reaction this morning to Alex Ovechkin's Bartleby-like commitment to defense.

[youtube]ZkuYHbKEuZw[/youtube]

[Watch right-hand portion of screen as play develops, then bottom of screen on the replay from center ice]

Mets – Willets Point
May 09 2013 09:43 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Is that number 8?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 09 2013 11:21 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Yep.

G-Fafif
May 10 2013 02:34 PM
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Terrific personal/municipal Coliseum history here from Sam Page.

[County Executive Eugene] Nickerson took his voters' mandate and ran with it. He proposed, on the former site of the Mitchel Field airbase, a new-seven-building complex that would serve as the cultural hub of the booming county. As Peter Botte and Alan Hahn wrote in Fish Sticks, their history of the team, the development would include affordable housing, a sports arena, and a 750,000-volume library: the John F. Kennedy Educational, Civic, and Cultural Center.

By the time the county broke ground in 1969, though, America had shot two Kennedys and agreed to build just one of Nickerson’s buildings, the Coliseum. My grandfather’s generation had grown up, grown sour, and started voting Republican. Nickerson himself had ceded his seat to one, Ralph Caso, who had no interest in affordable housing for Vietnam veterans or libraries named for Kennedy. All the baby boomers needed for culture was hockey and rock music.

My grandfather was a union carpenter, and he made sure he was on the Coliseum project from the beginning. Before the Coliseum, my grandfather had worked on all the major buildings in Manhattan, including the Wall Street banks, for which he reserved a special disdain. He had grown up the son of a tradesman in a neighborhood full of civil servants during the Great Depression. He believed in organized labor and a social safety net, not high finance. He relished the fact that the construction workers and the bankers got off work at the same time. He had an informal rule for the 4 p.m. L.I.R.R. train: The nicer the suit, the more likely it was my grandfather would sit next to him, just to savor the look on his face.

He also had no special fondness for politicians, particularly Caso (at left, with former Islanders owner Roy Boe), whom he had met at a party early in his political career. Caso made a point of pulling my grandmother aside whenever a photo op presented itself. My grandmother thought that Caso must have really liked her, but my grandfather knew what the politician was up to: He was using my 5-foot-nothing grandmother to make himself look tall in the paper.

When the plans were first laid out before Russ Page, as he remembers it, the bottom of the blueprints read simply, “The John Fitzgerald Kennedy Memorial Arena.” After Caso took over for Nickerson, the label simply read “The Memorial Arena,” which raised more than a few eyebrows on the faces of the working-class Catholics who actually had to build the thing. That name lasted for a while, until Long Islanders started to wonder whom exactly they were memorializing. Republicans aren’t dumb—when in doubt, always praise the troops. Hence: the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum.

One day during construction, Ralph Caso himself stood at the edge of the second deck, filming a commercial promoting the new arena. Every time he began to speak, the construction had to halt. After flubbing his lines three times, the head carpenter, Harry Rhodes, shouted, “Hey, Ralphie! You gonna get it right this time?” Like a school teacher in a Bugs Bunny cartoon, the red-faced Caso circumnavigated the Coliseum’s second deck, confronting each worker, demanding he reveal the guilty party. No one snitched, of course.

When the Coliseum was finally completed, George Rennehan, a relation to our family by marriage, the man who got my grandfather into the union, spread the word about a free dinner Caso was hosting for the hard-working carpenters who had built the thing. When George and my grandfather arrived, however, they were served a bag of peanuts and a warm beer. Rennehan, who had not taken shrapnel to his skull on the beaches of Normandy to be tossed peanuts by politicians, grabbed Harry Rhodes’s throat with both hands and demanded his constitutional right to a burger be honored on the drive home.

Had the county built the other six buildings, my grandfather probably could have lent his skills to the community for years to come. Instead, he stuck around the former Mitchel Field to do a different kind of work. He became the guy who would put the goals back on their moorings whenever, in the course of an Islanders game, someone skated into them and knocked them off. This was an important job, with certifiable sociopath Billy Smith minding the Islanders’ net for the better part of two decades.

My grandfather remembers working maintenance for the first sports event at the Coliseum, a Nets game on Feb. 11, 1972. Because Caso had skimped on luxury boxes (and seats in general), some poor fans were ejected from their chairs to make room for Caso himself. Still, karma found Caso after the game, in the form of a similarly scorned press corps.

“They didn't have anything for the press, and Marv Albert was drunk,” my grandfather said. “Marv Albert told Caso, ‘I wouldn't come back to this effin’ dump.’ Albert let him have it, boy.”

It was clear: The Coliseum, from the very beginning, belonged to the people. And that was before the people's hockey team took off.

Swan Swan H
May 13 2013 08:49 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

So, with the Rangers down 3-2 in the series Henrik Lundqvist shut down Alex Ovechkin and the Capitals for 120 minutes - two games, zero goals allowed, and just twelve in seven games.

Imagine Hank backing up the Penquins instead of Marc-Andre Sieve. They might never lose.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 13 2013 09:14 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Swan Swan H wrote:
So, with the Rangers down 3-2 in the series Henrik Lundqvist shut down Alex Ovechkin and the Capitals for 120 minutes - two games, zero goals allowed, and just twelve in seven games.

Imagine Hank backing up the Penquins instead of Marc-Andre Sieve. They might never lose.


"I'm sorry. We were looking for 'Marc-Andre Flurry-of-Soft-Goals.'"

This was the first game all series where someone other than Brassard, Lundqvist, or Moore contributed something of substance... thanks be.

Frayed Knot
May 14 2013 06:28 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

How'd ja like that Leafs collapse?
Up by 3 goals nearing the midway point of the 3rd, Boston gets one back at mid-period then scores twice in the final 90 seconds (18:38 & 19:09) to tie it. The winner came 6 minutes into OT.

A series clinching run like that has so much drama that I hear ESPN is even considering talking about it and showing some highlights. Unless of course there's breaking mini-camp news or LeBron tweet that forces them to bump it.

Swan Swan H
May 23 2013 08:06 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

The Rangers slip the noose, winning in OT to make the series 3-1 Bruins. Zdeno Chara is going to the Hall of Fame, but they're not going to show this game on the induction video.

metirish
May 24 2013 06:38 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

True, bloody awful to watch....the Rangers have turned into the Devils circa mid to late 90's when they were much derided by Colin Campbell , except this Rangers team doesn't have the "interchangeable parts' .

Ceetar
May 24 2013 07:18 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

>

themetfairy
May 24 2013 10:12 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Did you mean this?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2013 11:40 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

metirish wrote:
True, bloody awful to watch....the Rangers have turned into the Devils circa mid to late 90's when they were much derided by Colin Campbell , except this Rangers team doesn't have the "interchangeable parts' .


That this team, given so much offensive talent, is so offensively bad on the power-play, is a big, blinking red flag about Tortorella's tenure, isn't it?

metirish
May 24 2013 12:23 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2013 01:23 PM

I would say yes it is.....the PP is just plain awful. I was reading an article on Boston.com, Dan Shaughnessy wrote it(yes he's an asshole by all accounts, their Lupica if you like), basically it was about how NYC is not a hockey town, true enough too....anyway, something he said struck me..."they have one star player, their goalie"....wow, what about Nash and Richards?, under another coach they would be unleashed and be stars, they were stars before.....bloacking shots, forechecking is admirable but it takes more to win....obviously.


It's the kind of hockey that is hateful to watch.....and probably what the east is known for, yet in game seven against the Caps both teams were unleashed and we had wide open end to end stuff...and it was bloody great......

Mets – Willets Point
May 24 2013 12:40 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Shaughnessy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2013 01:04 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Never mind Richards or Nash-- anyone calling Del Zotto and McDonagh "non-start" players-- by implication or otherwise-- is not a "hockey writer."

metirish
May 24 2013 01:23 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Ah, I meant star players.

TheOldMole
May 24 2013 02:59 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

McDonagh is a star, Del Zotto a year or so away. Staal, when healthy, is a star. Stepan deserves to be called a star at this point, and so does Girardi.

Ceetar
May 24 2013 03:06 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

themetfairy wrote:
Did you mean this?



yes, a perfect representation of what I think about the RAngers and their season.

themetfairy
May 25 2013 06:17 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

And then there were none....

metirish
May 29 2013 12:26 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Tortorella fired, one year remaining on his contract.

Personally I would like to see a western conference style coach come in and play an open expansive game of hockey, not this grinding stuff Tortorella is noted for.

Swan Swan H
May 29 2013 12:41 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

metirish wrote:
Tortorella fired, one year remaining on his contract.

Personally I would like to see a western conference style coach come in and play an open expansive game of hockey, not this grinding stuff is noted for.


So would Nash, Stepan and Hagelin, just to name a few. I even think Hank would like to see a few more goals on their side of the board, no matter if it means more chances against.

Frayed Knot
May 29 2013 08:59 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Oh man!
Coincidental minors were called on account of a tussle along the mid-ice boards just as the Black Hawks put in the would-be winning goal in game 7 with less than 2 minutes left.
Goal was wiped out instead and now the Hawks & Wings are in OT for the right to advance.

Frayed Knot
May 29 2013 09:02 PM
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And Chicago wins anyway, just minutes into OT

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 29 2013 09:04 PM
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Puck Don't Lie.

Frayed Knot
May 29 2013 09:09 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Chicago vs LA + Pitt vs Boston

NHL couldn't have asked for a much better final foursome.

Mets – Willets Point
May 29 2013 09:18 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
Chicago vs LA + Pitt vs Boston

NHL couldn't have asked for a much better final foursome.


All Original Twelve teams.

Frayed Knot
May 30 2013 06:37 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Chicago vs LA + Pitt vs Boston

NHL couldn't have asked for a much better final foursome.


All Original Twelve teams.


Yup, in each case an original six team vs a second six.



Tortorella fired, one year remaining on his contract.


I hope the replacement continues the tradition of warm and cuddly press conferences.

HahnSolo
May 30 2013 06:41 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Chicago vs LA + Pitt vs Boston

NHL couldn't have asked for a much better final foursome.


All Original Twelve teams.


Never heard Original 12 used before; also, the four teams left also happen to be the four most recent Cup champions.

Frayed Knot
May 30 2013 06:49 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
Never heard Original 12 used before;


Neither has anyone else; Willets was making a funny.

metirish
May 30 2013 07:20 AM
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Francesa breaks the news on Torts....this is funny, and so Francesa like.

[youtube:3m7dmeu9]player_embedded&v=375bE1UwwSM#![/youtube:3m7dmeu9]

scroll down in this link to the sound cloud widget and hear Mike slam ESPN

http://deadspin.com/mike-francesa-break ... -510359820

Swan Swan H
May 30 2013 08:27 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

I can see Guy Boucher getting it. If he could get as far as he did with Dwayne Roloson in net a couple of years back, he should be able to build around Lundqvist.

TheOldMole
May 30 2013 01:49 PM
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I liked Tortorella, but firing him was a good move. They need a coach who can craft an offense.

Swan Swan H
Jun 17 2013 08:01 AM
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Ray Bartoszek and Anthony Lanza, who were in discussions to purchase a share of the New York Mets in 2011, are being mentioned as potential buyers for the NHL's Phoenix Coyotes. Should the deal happen the team will likely be moved to Seattle, and the team name could well be the Seattle Metropolitans, after the former PCHA franchise. That team played from 1915-1924, and was the first American team to win the Stanley Cup. According to a few articles out there (I'm old, but I wasn't around in 1917) the team was indeed referred to as the Mets.

The NHL has been looking for a buyer for the Coyotes for quite some time, and with the hard-won conference realignment just about to happen it may be in their best interests to keep the team out west, rather than move them to one of the eastern locations (Quebec City, Hamilton ON) that have been tossed about as potential landing spots for the Coyotes and have to re-fight the realignment battles.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 18 2013 11:20 AM
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Figures that I'm the one posting this wonderful Doc Emrick-Daft Punk mashup here, doesn't it?

Swan Swan H
Jun 18 2013 05:33 PM
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Flipped it, flopped it, gave it, got it. Awesome.

Ceetar
Aug 08 2013 01:45 PM
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A week before the Super Bowl The Rangers and Devils play an outdoor hockey game at Yankee Stadium.

and then the Wednesday before the Islanders and Rangers play one there.

Should be a fun week. Think the mainstream/national media/swarm will be allowed to mention the hockey games happening mere miles away?

Ceetar
Oct 28 2013 10:13 AM
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Islanders pull off a big trade to get Vanek, and the Rangers suck.

Good times.

themetfairy
Oct 28 2013 10:32 AM
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One of the great things about watching Islanders games is getting to hear Howie Rose.

Frayed Knot
Jan 26 2014 08:28 PM
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Is it true that at today's game at YSIII the rink was misshapen in one corner due to the fact that the RF wall was too close to fit the entire thing?

Ceetar
Jan 27 2014 07:48 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
Is it true that at today's game at YSIII the rink was misshapen in one corner due to the fact that the RF wall was too close to fit the entire thing?


I heard simple shots at goal were just flying over the right field wall like Jeter pop-flies.

As long as they fix it for Wednesday.

Frayed Knot
Jan 27 2014 10:39 AM
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And speaking of the YSIII hockey game, this sun glare thing apparently came as a surprise to the folks running the whole deal.
That doesn't speak well of their planning skills.

Ashie62
Jan 27 2014 10:59 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

The NHL will schedule outdoor games until they become common... Thats business..

Frayed Knot
Jan 27 2014 11:30 AM
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They can schedule as many outdoor games as they want, I don't care; I'm just wondering how you can set up a game where the sun being out affects your ability to play it.
- Did this potential problem not occur to them?
- Did they decide to go ahead anyway and simply count on the chance of the sun being hidden by clouds at game time?
- Or did they figure that if it did happen then allowing 50,000 people to sit around in 20 degree weather an extra 45 minute or so during the delay was no big deal?

Frayed Knot
Jan 29 2014 08:20 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
Is it true that at today's game at YSIII the rink was misshapen in one corner due to the fact that the RF wall was too close to fit the entire thing?


I also heard* that no one on any of the three teams that played in these two games was allowed to wear the number 2 on his jersey on account of part of the rink being over the sacred ground of SS.
Is this true?




* OK I totally made that up but I'm sure the idea occurred to someone in Yanqui-land.

Ceetar
Jan 30 2014 08:12 AM
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NBC Sports "sideline reporter" salivated over the Yankees the entire time. ugh. was almost as bad as the Isles defense.

called Jeter, with a catch in his throat, the best Yankee ever, etc. They introduced the Isles PA guy (Isles home game) as being in the booth that was once bob Sheppard's (swing and a miss)

Hey, does Captain Herpes still demand he's special and needs Sheppard's recording for his lineup announcement?

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 30 2014 08:14 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Ceetar wrote:
Hey, does Captain Herpes still demand he's special and needs Sheppard's recording for his lineup announcement?


They still played the recording at the game I went to in September.

themetfairy
Jan 30 2014 09:19 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
was almost as bad as the Isles defense.


Hey - they only gave up two goals!

Not like the football score in Sunday's game.

Ceetar
Jan 30 2014 09:30 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

themetfairy wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
was almost as bad as the Isles defense.


Hey - they only gave up two goals!

Not like the football score in Sunday's game.


Monday's game. That was 6-3? That I was at? *sigh*

themetfairy
Jan 30 2014 09:34 AM
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I meant the Devils/Rangers game at MFYIII on Sunday. The score that day was 7-3.

Ashie62
Jan 30 2014 10:43 PM
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Lundqvist wore MFY Pinstriped pads...

Ceetar
Jan 31 2014 07:25 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Lundqvist wore MFY Pinstriped pads...


Yet another reason to hate him. Did he yell at any ice girls this time?

themetfairy
Apr 30 2014 08:18 PM
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It's always nice seeing the Phucking Flyers lose. Congrats Rangers!

themetfairy
May 27 2014 07:44 PM
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Where are all of the Rangers fans?

I'm an Islanders fan, and I'm finding this Rangers/Montreal game mesmerizing.

On Edit - I wrote that when it was a one goal game. But it's still been a great series so far!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 27 2014 09:05 PM
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Oh, I've been enjoying it. Well, "enjoying" might be pushing it-- playoff hockey buffs my burgeoning ulcer to a nice sheen even when my team isn't a participant.

But, yeah, weird, woolly stuff tonight. Figures that tonight is the night the refs finally start calling Montreal's Serie A-quality diving act what it is.

Frayed Knot
May 27 2014 09:16 PM
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Innuresting strategy pulling the goalie with so much time remaining and, considering the 3-1 lead in games, not exactly a desparate situation for the Blueshirts.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 27 2014 09:28 PM
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Result notwithstanding, I liked it. It's not like cumulative goal-differential is a determining factor in who moves on-- losing little in one game is the same as losing big. Why not roll the dice there?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 29 2014 09:34 PM
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Oh... that's the stuff.

Zvon
May 29 2014 09:45 PM
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Gratz Rangers!! They have been fun to watch.

My father has been a big Ranger fan for many years. I've been watching some of the games with him and getting into it. I used to be more into hockey in the 80s & 90s. I was following the Flyers.
I never went to a hockey game when I lived in NYC. Went to many after I moved to S.J., over in Philly.

Hockey is the most exciting sport to watch live or on TV. I hope the Rangers go all the way!

Vic Sage
May 30 2014 09:10 AM
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I'm not a big hockey fan but, growing up in Brooklyn in the `60s, I follow the Rangers a bit, if just in the media, and root for them. My fandom (such as it is) was fanned into a flame while in college. Going to school on long island in the early 80s, when the Islanders were busy winning 4 cups in a row (with these upstarts stepping over the Rangers to do so, like they were a drunk on the sidewalk), made dealing with obnoxious Islanders fans (redundant i know) a daily pain in the ass. And that made my Ranger leanings more pronounced, if just in self defense.

In `94, my wife and i lived in a 2nd floor apartment in NYC above a street that fed into the Queens Midtown Tunnel. After the Rangers won the final game at MSG to win the cup, Rangers fans were driving home past my window all night, screaming and chanting, with their horns blaring. So i opened the window, stuck my head out, waved a blue towel and cheered along. It went on for hours. It was a great night.

And it's not like I've spent a lot of time waiting for another night like that, but now that its a possibility... well, it's better than a sharp stick in the eye.

Go Blue!
POTVIN SUCKS!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 30 2014 09:19 AM
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I was rooting against the Rangers so Francessa would stop having shitty hockey guests making my lunch hour that much more boring.

Ceetar
May 30 2014 09:29 AM
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I'm still pissed the Rangers won in 94. 1940 was such a great taunt.

Vic Sage
May 30 2014 09:52 AM
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yeah and Potvin still sucks.

themetfairy
May 30 2014 10:22 AM
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What's with the Potvin Sucks chant? The man has been retired for decades.

Vic Sage
May 30 2014 10:57 AM
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it doesn't make it any less true.

Frayed Knot
Jun 02 2014 07:00 PM
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I suppose I would have known this had I thought about it before hearing it, but this SC finals will be the first NY-v-LA championship in any of 'the four majors' (as we say here in the US of A) since Yanx-v-Dodgers in 1981

metirish
Jun 03 2014 06:34 AM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I was rooting against the Rangers so Francessa would stop having shitty hockey guests making my lunch hour that much more boring.



Plus, he really doesn't care for the game ....but that doesn't stop him from telling Bettman how to run the league.....


NHL could not have asked for a better matchup......kudos to NBC/NBCSN for their coverage. Emrick will sit out game one sue to a death in the family. Albert will fill in

Frayed Knot
Jun 03 2014 06:53 AM
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Nothing better than listening to Francesa's claims about paying little or no attention to [fill in the blank*] but then acting like the authority on it when times comes around that it does matter to him.


* hockey, college Bball reg season, Olympics, etc.

Zvon
Jun 04 2014 09:43 PM
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Game one a bummer. Good game though.

metirish
Jun 05 2014 06:49 AM
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Kind of feel we needed that game, still, with the Rangers speed game I feel good.

HahnSolo
Jun 05 2014 08:56 AM
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Agree about the speed. I liked the way the Rangers were skating, at least for the first 2 periods or so. Thought they kind of tightened up in the third. I think John Moore coming back will help. Diaz was a disaster last night, and not making excuses for Girardi, but they were basically going with 2 defense pairings in the 3rd period and OT. Moore and Klein will play more minutes together moving forward.
Bad play all around on the last goal...however if Girardi controls the puck and gets it to either McDonagh or Pouliot, the Rangers have an odd man break. McDonagh probably should have made sure Girardi controlled the puck before moving out of the zone, but the Rangers needed to make something happen. They had been badly outplayed for the preceding 30 minutes or so of game time and needed to create an opportunity.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 05 2014 04:52 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

The thing is, that's kind of McDonagh's game, leaving the zone early on turnovers. Girardi's big mistake was probably going for the long bomb pass there.

Zvon
Jun 07 2014 06:26 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

GO RANGERS!

Ashie62
Jun 07 2014 07:27 PM
Re: NY Rangers, NY Islanders & NJ Devils Thread

Ceetar wrote:
I'm still pissed the Rangers won in 94. 1940 was such a great taunt.


me too... I used to write 1940 on beer coasters, place them in the urinals and let it fly....

Zvon
Jun 07 2014 08:12 PM
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Another overtime. Sheesh.
Alls I can say is it's a good thing I don't care like I would if it was baseball and the Mets.

Zvon
Jun 07 2014 09:03 PM
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Double overtime. Unfreakinbelievable.

That 3rd goal by LA was "NO FAIR!" I was calling for a review.

Zvon
Jun 07 2014 09:40 PM
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DAMN!

They don't come back from this.
Make me eat my words Rangers.

d'Kong76
Jun 08 2014 08:22 AM
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What's with the Potvin Sucks chant?

It's kind of a silly tradition.
I preferred:
Beat Your Wife, Denis, Beat Your Wife! *clap* *clap*
Beat Your Wife, Denis, Beat Your Wife! *clap* *clap*

But whatever. Last night's game was fun to watch.
Feel bad for my Ranger buds, the puck head are
all very excited about this.

A Boy Named Seo
Jun 08 2014 10:31 AM
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I think I'm good on sports teams, but this NYT piece almost made me want to take the Kings home. Reminds me of old, stickball players jus chillin in the neighborhood. Their practice facility is just across the street from my work in sleepy El Segundo (Fman - right next door to your hotel that time you were workin in the hood) and South Bay is a little slice of Mayberry... the slowest, quietest, beachiest version of LA. If I was a baller pro athlete, I'd most definitely live there.

Mostly, I love the Kings advertisement trolling. The Will Ferrell/Go Kings Go shit near is MSG is great in how flippant it is, and they put these sorta jacked up billboards around SoCal during the Ducks series that I could never picture a baseball or basketball team doing. So many OC folks were offended by the Kings org's lack of class. Heh.





Go Kings Go? OK.

Zvon
Jun 09 2014 09:07 PM
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That sucked. They played like shit.

MFS62
Jun 09 2014 09:23 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
What's with the Potvin Sucks chant? The man has been retired for decades.

Potvin led the Islanders to four Stanley Cups. The Ranger fans were envious of that, and Potvin was considered better than the Rangers' poster-boy defenseman Brad Park. So they started that chant during games against the Islanders. I guess they're still feeling jealous.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 09 2014 11:57 PM
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Well, yeah, that... and/or the fact that he more or less ruined Ulf Nilsson's career with that check.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2014 05:08 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
I guess they're still feeling jealous.
Later

Half of the fans who participate in the chant weren't alive
back then, the other half don't know who he is, and still the
other half are drunk.

MFS62
Jun 10 2014 07:30 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
I guess they're still feeling jealous.
Later

Half of the fans who participate in the chant weren't alive
back then, the other half don't know who he is, and still the
other half are drunk.

That 'splained it all.
Later

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2014 07:50 AM
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When in doubt, whip out the Yogi-math

Zvon
Jun 11 2014 09:01 PM
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They shall not hoist it here.


At least, not tonight. Great game.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 12 2014 08:15 AM
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Third star: Martin St. Louis
Second star: King Henrik
First star: LET'S GO! ICE PILE! (clap, clap, clapclapclap)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 13 2014 10:09 PM
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1st hockey 2 I've seen all year. Wow

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2014 10:11 PM
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I've seem only a few minutes here and there - and have seen at least a half-dozen shots hit iron in OT from each side!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 13 2014 10:19 PM
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I think hockey fans might hate mike Emerick but he's pretty great imo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 13 2014 10:27 PM
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What a finish.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 13 2014 10:31 PM
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Dangit.

TheOldMole
Jun 14 2014 05:32 AM
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They put up a fight.

metirish
Jun 14 2014 11:03 AM
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Great game and the 4-1 series win belies a great series , but damn the Rangers asked too much of Hank in this game....

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2014 12:23 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I think hockey fans might hate mike Emerick but he's pretty great imo.


Best p-b-p man in any sport as far as I'm concerned.
The only hockey fans I ever knew who weren't fans of his were a couple a Ranger fans and, although they denied it, I think it was because he worked for the Devils at the time.

btw, Emerick is a huge Pitt Pirates fan.