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Edgy MD
Jul 25 2012 10:25 AM

The opening match of a soccerball tourney is almost guaranteed to have two or fewer goals, right? Well don't tell that to the French and American women, who've scored three of 'em and they're only 18 minutes in. US fell behind 2-0, but just struck back to pull within one.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 25 2012 10:37 AM
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It's two-two now thanks to a long ball from the leggy Hope Solo to the leggy Alex Morgan.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 25 2012 11:13 AM
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Carli Lloyd puts the USA up 3-2 in the 55th minute.

Edgy MD
Jul 25 2012 11:16 AM
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Shweet!

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 25 2012 11:40 AM
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Alex Morgan actually made it 4-2, but was subbed-out so she won't have the opportunity for a hat trick.

Ceetar
Jul 26 2012 05:07 PM
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Frayed Knot
Jul 28 2012 03:26 PM
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Women's volleyball games would go a lot quicker if the girls didn't insist on having a huddle after Every. Single. Play.
The defensive team (at least the infield) does this in softball too and I never quite got why.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 28 2012 03:47 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Women's volleyball games would go a lot quicker if the girls didn't insist on having a huddle after Every. Single. Play.
The defensive team (at least the infield) does this in softball too and I never quite got why.


Considering that at least 3-4 of them are touching the ball on any given point, and they rotate positions on-court, and court-coverage responsibilities may shift point-to-point, and they're reacting to what happened the last point... they kinda HAVE to talk. (As for softball... yeah, I don't get that.)

Frayed Knot
Jul 28 2012 04:15 PM
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Yeah, it just seems like it's often less about play calling or strategy than it is about the opportunity to have a solidarity huddle and so each player can tap hands with each other one.
Dudes, it's one point, and half the time it's a point you didn't even win! There are like 40-to-50 of those points per games and there are 3 to 5 games in the match.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 28 2012 07:48 PM
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The solidarity huddle's important, too. I played a lot of doubles tennis growing up, and every coach I ever had (the ones who actually coached, anyway) encouraged some form of communication-- high-five, asspat, actual wordalizing-- between partners on every point. Strategizing/in-game adjustments are PART of it, but not all; mostly, the idea's to keep in your partner's head, making sure that you're all seeing the same things on-court-- "subconscious strategizing," if you will. And Lord knows, there's a lot more to manage on a volleyball court, given a six-person squad.

Frayed Knot
Jul 28 2012 08:09 PM
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I guess my point is that in the team sports for the wimmin that solidarity gathering seems much more important than it is for the men.
On the other hand it's been a while since I saw indoor men's volleyball so maybe they do the same thing following each point.

I like watching indoor v-ball (used to play it a wee bit as well) but it seems to have been replaced as the popular fave by the two-man/woman on-sand variety.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 28 2012 08:17 PM
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Lot of hugging, too. The Aussie team that May/Walsh played today embraced after EVERY point. (High-fiving or chatting or huddling, I get; hugging after fuckups, I don't.)

I found myself watching a bunch of fencing today. Hypnotic stuff.

Ashie62
Jul 28 2012 10:08 PM
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It's all good.

Ceetar
Jul 29 2012 07:31 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Lot of hugging, too. The Aussie team that May/Walsh played today embraced after EVERY point. (High-fiving or chatting or huddling, I get; hugging after fuckups, I don't.)

I found myself watching a bunch of fencing today. Hypnotic stuff.


fencing goes too fast for me, it's hypnotic, but I seem to miss the actual strike.

I watched some handball (on my phone) which is basically soccer with your hands. It always confuses me what you actually do on defense besides stand in the way and it looks like some of the half-ass 'games' kids play in basements when they've got a ball and a net and not much to do.

Caught some archery, badminton. They were saying the shuttlecock (well, they leave off the last part) leaves the racket at upwards of 200 mph sometimes, and obviously rapidly slows down. I played a little badminton in the backyard sometimes when i was little. it's fun.


watching on the phone/computer is interesting. No announcers or narrative and you just watch the action.. You don't really miss them, unless you don't know what's going on like in some of the more obscure sports. Although my wife described watching the swimmingthat way as like watching a fish bowl.

Ceetar
Jul 29 2012 09:40 AM
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"Women's Olympic team archery events debuted in 1988. South Korea has won every gold medal."

Just watched the US get dismantled by China in the quarter-finals.

Kong76
Jul 29 2012 10:43 AM
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Anyone know why one person on a volleyball teams wears a
different color shirt? I find it annoying for some reason.

Really enjoyed the bike races. The aerial and vehicle coverage
gave a nice tour of London.

Ceetar
Jul 29 2012 10:46 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
Anyone know why one person on a volleyball teams wears a
different color shirt? I find it annoying for some reason.

Really enjoyed the bike races. The aerial and vehicle coverage
gave a nice tour of London.


captain maybe?

Frayed Knot
Jul 29 2012 02:43 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
Anyone know why one person on a volleyball teams wears a
different color shirt? I find it annoying for some reason.


It's a fairly recent (like ten years or so) invention where the odd shirt shows the person who is not subject to the rotation process that governs the rest of the players. I'm not sure why it was put in but that particular person seems to serve as a kind of designated setter so maybe it was some attempt to create a permanent spot for a short person.


Really enjoyed the bike races. The aerial and vehicle coverage gave a nice tour of London.


Shoulda watched the just-concluded Tour de France, man. Three weeks of that stuff complete with ridiculous mountains, 60 mph descents, manic sprints at the end, crashes, drug use, drunk spectators, all sorts of crazy shit.

Frayed Knot
Jul 29 2012 05:20 PM
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Synchronized Diving = Really silly

Ceetar
Jul 29 2012 05:32 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Synchronized Diving = Really silly


yeah. I imagine you have to get people roughly the same shape/weight too or else gravity and drag would mess with the synch.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 29 2012 09:11 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Synchronized Diving = Really silly


yeah. I imagine you have to get people roughly the same shape/weight too or else gravity and drag would mess with the synch.


I would be a lot more interested in this sport if there were some kind of a Mismatched-Partner Multiplier (1.5 x every degree-of-difficulty).

BTW... REALLY great/terrible camera shot for the interview with the girl who took the 2nd gymnastics all-around instead of favorite Jordyn Wieber... making sure to keep Wieber in-frame and in-focus-- struggling to hold back a wave of tears-- behind the other gymnast and Andrea Joyce.

Ashie62
Jul 29 2012 09:34 PM
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Jordan did her two questions with class....shes 16

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 29 2012 09:49 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Jordan did her two questions with class....shes 16


I thought she did a good job with that, too. Not easy.

metsmarathon
Jul 30 2012 06:57 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Synchronized Diving = Really silly


yeah. I imagine you have to get people roughly the same shape/weight too or else gravity and drag would mess with the synch.


unless somebdoy's got a sail or freakish batwings, drag will have negligible effect on the synchronicity of the divers. and there would have to be a massive weight differential to cause a fluctuation in the local gravity field density for one diver to experience a greated earthward acceleration. so much so that it's conceivable the lighter diver would get sucked towards the more massive diver. in fact, i might wonder if the diving platform would be able to hold up under hte weight of a diver so supermassive as to cause acceleration due to gravity to meaningfully exceed 9.81 m/s2.

the body-type differences liekyl show up in terms of moments of inertia, which affect spin rates, though i suspect the greatest motivation behind finding divers of similar size and shape is that it psychologically primes judges to perceive similatiy and not dissimilarity.

Edgy MD
Jul 30 2012 07:04 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
unless somebdoy's got a sail or freakish batwings, drag will have negligible effect on the synchronicity of the divers.


ABosloutely! Galileo! Isaac Newton!

Ceetar
Jul 30 2012 07:08 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Synchronized Diving = Really silly


yeah. I imagine you have to get people roughly the same shape/weight too or else gravity and drag would mess with the synch.


unless somebdoy's got a sail or freakish batwings, drag will have negligible effect on the synchronicity of the divers. and there would have to be a massive weight differential to cause a fluctuation in the local gravity field density for one diver to experience a greated earthward acceleration. so much so that it's conceivable the lighter diver would get sucked towards the more massive diver. in fact, i might wonder if the diving platform would be able to hold up under hte weight of a diver so supermassive as to cause acceleration due to gravity to meaningfully exceed 9.81 m/s2.

the body-type differences liekyl show up in terms of moments of inertia, which affect spin rates, though i suspect the greatest motivation behind finding divers of similar size and shape is that it psychologically primes judges to perceive similatiy and not dissimilarity.



Well sure, I wasn't expecting it to have any meaningful impact, particularly a 10-20lb difference, but definitely in perception of judges. Particularly if it looks like one landed later, and they figure she's the lighter one..

ButI guess most of these things are what the practices are for. making sure the stronger person doesn't push off too hard and end up with a higher arch.

I think they need to push the synchronized limits. Get 10! divers doing the same dive at the same time.

hmm, how many of these people go on to work for cirque du Soleil?

RealityChuck
Jul 30 2012 07:41 AM
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Anyone else watching handball? Great sport. Sort of a mix between soccer and basketball. Instead of a basket, there's a goal and a goaltender. Plenty of action and some great athleticism.

It's on the website but not on broadcast/cable. Too bad, but probably since the US isn't in it, NBC doesn't care.

Ceetar
Jul 30 2012 07:53 AM
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RealityChuck wrote:
Anyone else watching handball? Great sport. Sort of a mix between soccer and basketball. Instead of a basket, there's a goal and a goaltender. Plenty of action and some great athleticism.

It's on the website but not on broadcast/cable. Too bad, but probably since the US isn't in it, NBC doesn't care.


I watched some the other day. I wish I could get away with streaming the Olympics at work. It looks real nice on my phone even, i downloaded the app.

Watched a wee bit of water polo too, which is basically the same game just in water.

Frayed Knot
Jul 30 2012 07:56 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Watched a wee bit of water polo too, which is basically the same game just in water.


Yeah, but it's so cruel to the horses.

Ceetar
Jul 30 2012 08:15 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Watched a wee bit of water polo too, which is basically the same game just in water.


Yeah, but it's so cruel to the horses.


You can lead a horse to the water polo pool, but you can't make him play.

Edgy MD
Jul 30 2012 01:23 PM
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This is what I wanted Bobby Valentine to do. Great move. Heartbreaking result.

metirish
Jul 30 2012 01:29 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
This is what I wanted Bobby Valentine to do. Great move. Heartbreaking result.




awful.....some bizarre rules too

Edgy MD
Jul 30 2012 01:42 PM
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And she ends up having to step up and compete for the bronze immediately after her appeal was denied --- a match she loses 15-11.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 30 2012 01:55 PM
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That's sports, sweetheart.

metirish
Jul 30 2012 01:56 PM
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Meant to ask what the Bobby V angle is?

seawolf17
Jul 30 2012 04:57 PM
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RealityChuck wrote:
Anyone else watching handball? Great sport. Sort of a mix between soccer and basketball. Instead of a basket, there's a goal and a goaltender. Plenty of action and some great athleticism.

It's on the website but not on broadcast/cable. Too bad, but probably since the US isn't in it, NBC doesn't care.

Watched Norway/France the other day. Fell deeply, madly in love with roughly the entire Norwegian team. Moving to Norway in two weeks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 30 2012 05:12 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
RealityChuck wrote:
Anyone else watching handball? Great sport. Sort of a mix between soccer and basketball. Instead of a basket, there's a goal and a goaltender. Plenty of action and some great athleticism.

It's on the website but not on broadcast/cable. Too bad, but probably since the US isn't in it, NBC doesn't care.

Watched Norway/France the other day. Fell deeply, madly in love with roughly the entire Norwegian team. Moving to Norway in two weeks.


I feel the same about the Brazilian volleyball team.



Mets – Willets Point
Jul 30 2012 05:55 PM
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[youtube:3ulmz0lg]_JuI8SKpTXk[/youtube:3ulmz0lg]

Kong76
Jul 30 2012 06:20 PM
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I was gonna comment on the hotness of the Brazil team! But,
I'm turning 50 next month and did want people to think (more)
poorly of me than they already do!

Ashie62
Jul 30 2012 07:43 PM
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Welcome to the club. I'm opting for the Dutch Field Hockey team myself..

Edgy MD
Jul 30 2012 09:58 PM
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metirish wrote:
Meant to ask what the Bobby V angle is?


I approve of introducing the mad boldness of civil disobedience in defiance of gross injustice in sports, and I oft wish Bobby Vee tried some back in the 2000 World Series --- a sit-in or pulling his team off the field or such.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 31 2012 02:56 PM
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What if the Olympics were in New York? Interesting examination of what might of been and how the city benefited despite losing the bid.

Ceetar
Jul 31 2012 02:58 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
What if the Olympics were in New York? Interesting examination of what might of been and how the city benefited despite losing the bid.


I'll have to read that, though I suspect I disagree with the premise that we would've been screwed.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 31 2012 03:09 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
What if the Olympics were in New York? Interesting examination of what might of been and how the city benefited despite losing the bid.


I'll have to read that, though I suspect I disagree with the premise that we would've been screwed.


Actually, it's more balanced than that. The basic idea is that there would've been advantages to building some of the facilities for the Olympics but then other good things were built instead.

The Second Spitter
Jul 31 2012 03:29 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
metirish wrote:
Meant to ask what the Bobby V angle is?


I approve of introducing the mad boldness of civil disobedience in defiance of gross injustice in sports, and I oft wish Bobby Vee tried some back in the 2000 World Series --- a sit-in or pulling his team off the field or such.


Reminds me of the 1972 Mens Basketball Gold Medal game.

Ceetar
Jul 31 2012 04:51 PM
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does it have to start with a Tim Tebow reference? *sigh*

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 01 2012 08:58 PM
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What if every sport was photographed like beach volleyball is?

MFS62
Aug 01 2012 09:31 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Welcome to the club. I'm opting for the Dutch Field Hockey team myself..



A few days ago, Yahoo proclaimed them the "best looking team at the Olympics."
They won't get an arguement from me.

Later

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2012 08:31 AM
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Chinese Diver Wins Gold, Is Finally Told That Her Mother Has Cancer And Her Grandparents Died A Year Ago

http://deadspin.com/5931182/?utm_campai ... socialflow

Sports, ladies and gents!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 02 2012 09:00 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 02 2012 09:04 AM

But hey, you weepy, familial-relationships-are-essential-to-what-makes-us-human bitches! TOTAL MEDAL COUNT! HOODEHOOOOOOOOOO!

That's just... it seems from a different era of humankind, doesn't it?

From the comments:

"Oh yeah, one more thing - you're fatally allergic to gol--

Shit."

The Second Spitter
Aug 02 2012 09:02 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Chinese Diver Wins Gold, Is Finally Told That Her Mother Has Cancer And Her Grandparents Died A Year Ago

http://deadspin.com/5931182/?utm_campai ... socialflow

Sports, ladies and gents!


Funny. I was watching a doco on Dan Jansen two days ago (who btw, it my fave Olympian ever).

RealityChuck
Aug 02 2012 10:40 AM
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Anyone see the woman's Badminton match between China and South Korea? Both sides were trying to throw the match and the result was pathetic. Serves went into the net, sometimes two or three times in a row. Players would let the shuttlecock drop even though there wasn't a chance it would be out. Simple serves were returned wide of the court.

Four teams were disqualified because of this (another South Korean team and Indonesia did the same thing in the next match).

The situation was that there was a round robin to enter the final medal tournament. All teams had clinched a berth in the medal round. When one Chinese team lost (legitimately) to the Netherlands, it set up a situation where the second Chinese team would play them in the semifinals. That would have prevented China from winning both a gold and silver. By losing, the Chinese would not play the other Chinese team until the final.

Once South Korea realized what was going on, they wanted to lose so as not to play China in the quarterfinals.

MFS62
Aug 02 2012 11:23 AM
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The US swimming coach thinks the Chinese team is using PEDs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics-- ... tions.html

But that brings up a question - did their Badminton team stop using in order to try to throw the match? Wouldn't want roid rage to kick in and they might accidentally win, would they?

Later

MFS62
Aug 02 2012 05:10 PM
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This is really hard to believe.
http://shine.yahoo.com/team-mom/defense ... 00322.html

Later

Ceetar
Aug 02 2012 07:04 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
This is really hard to believe.
http://shine.yahoo.com/team-mom/defense ... 00322.html

Later


sadly, it's not.

Swan Swan H
Aug 03 2012 07:55 PM
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In spite of myself I find it endearing when gazillionaire professional athletes (LeBron, Wade, etc.) show up to cheer on their comrades in the lesser-known sports.

Frayed Knot
Aug 03 2012 08:56 PM
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So I flick over between innings to see NBC showing the women's 800m swim.
And even though they're showing it half a day after it happened and nearly three hours after they signed on with their prime-time coverage, they still cut out right in the middle of it with commercials because the race, after all, takes about 8 minutes to run so I suppose it's too much to ask that they actually clear a spot that long in order to show the race uninterrupted even though they're choosing exactly when to show it.

And then yesterday I'm reading about how the big-wigs at NBC can't understand why critics are taking them to task over their coverage.

Swan Swan H
Aug 04 2012 09:25 AM
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Watching me some trampoline. After this is slip-n-slide, wiffle ball and Big Wheel racing.

Frayed Knot
Aug 04 2012 11:10 AM
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Now whiffle-ball would make a great olympic sport.
Home country sets up the field and decides on the specific ground rules: OK, hit it off the imitation Big Ben out behind 2nd and it's a double, but if the fielder catches it before hitting the ground it's an out. And anything into the Thames is a do-over ...

Swan Swan H
Aug 04 2012 11:35 AM
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They could use some of the Queen's old hats as bases.

Ashie62
Aug 04 2012 07:11 PM
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Congrats to Michael Phelps just because...

Frayed Knot
Aug 04 2012 07:21 PM
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Exciting men's 10K earlier today.
Two Salazar-coached runners took the top two slots.
Britain's Mo Farah (by way of Somalia & Djibouti) won in front of the home crowd with his American training partner Galen Rupp taking silver.

Frayed Knot
Aug 04 2012 08:39 PM
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Shortest winning distance in the mens long jump in forty years.
Funny how records like that work sometimes.

Swan Swan H
Aug 05 2012 09:23 AM
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Andy Murray takes the gold medal on centre court at Wimbledon, beating Federer 6-2, 6-1, 6-4. Truly, the crowd goes wild.

Edgy MD
Aug 05 2012 12:11 PM
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Nice to see tennis get a top shelf treatment at the Olympics.

Going out to see the men's marathon tonight. Hope to find some place showing it live.

Swan Swan H
Aug 05 2012 12:20 PM
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Hall of Fame hockey announcer Doc Emrick is calling the water polo. Perfect.

Frayed Knot
Aug 05 2012 12:44 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Nice to see tennis get a top shelf treatment at the Olympics.

Going out to see the men's marathon tonight. Hope to find some place showing it live.



???
Men's marathon is next Sunday -- it's always the final morning before the closing ceremonies.
The good news is that it's one of the few events NBC actually will show live. The women's race was this morning.

Swan Swan H
Aug 05 2012 01:39 PM
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The Danish team is picking it up in badminton, and have even bigger medal hopes in tether ball, horseshoes and lawn darts.

OE: Just wanted to say 'shuttlecock.' That is all.

Edgy MD
Aug 05 2012 01:50 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Nice to see tennis get a top shelf treatment at the Olympics.

Going out to see the men's marathon tonight. Hope to find some place showing it live.



???
Men's marathon is next Sunday -- it's always the final morning before the closing ceremonies.
The good news is that it's one of the few events NBC actually will show live. The women's race was this morning.

Thanks, misread the schedule badly.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 05 2012 02:25 PM
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3000 meter steeplechase is on now though.

Swan Swan H
Aug 05 2012 02:31 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
3000 meter steeplechase is on now though.


Humans or horses?

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 05 2012 02:40 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
3000 meter steeplechase is on now though.


Humans or horses?


Humans who run like horses.

Swan Swan H
Aug 05 2012 02:53 PM
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So I started flipping around, and the equestrian jumping was on the main NBC feed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 05 2012 03:28 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Hall of Fame hockey announcer Doc Emrick is calling the water polo. Perfect.


It's a spectacular fit. (Unlike the somnabulent Tom Hammond and track.)

Edgy MD
Aug 05 2012 03:56 PM
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Big-Time Spoiler[/bigpurple]

Mens 100
1) Usain Bolt: 9.63
2) Yohan Blake: 9.75
3) Justin Gatlin: 9.79

New Olympic record for Bolt.

Edgy MD
Aug 05 2012 04:05 PM
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Yahoo Headline wrote:
Bad boy of badminton struts away with gold


There's a bad boy of badminton? And it's not me?

Swan Swan H
Aug 05 2012 04:14 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Yahoo Headline wrote:
Bad boy of badminton struts away with gold


There's a bad boy of badminton? And it's not me?


No, that's already taken, but I believe there are still openings for Bad Boy of bocce, croquet and shuffleboard.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 05 2012 04:27 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Yahoo Headline wrote:
Bad boy of badminton struts away with gold


There's a bad boy of badminton? And it's not me?


No, that's already taken, but I believe there are still openings for Bad Boy of bocce, croquet and shuffleboard.


Much more rebellious is the Bad Boy of Goodminton.

Frayed Knot
Aug 05 2012 10:03 PM
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Big-Time Spoiler[/bigpurple]

Mens 100
1) Usain Bolt: 9.63
2) Yohan Blake: 9.75
3) Justin Gatlin: 9.79

New Olympic record for Bolt.



Y'know, next time you might want to stick a couple of inches or so of space between your spoiler warning and the spoiler itself.

Gatlin's Bronze medal time today was the same as the (eventually disqualified) time notched by Ben Johnson in 1988. And that time, at the time, was a stunner.
With this crew, just a tick below that (9.80) got you 4th place and not even on the podium.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 05 2012 10:38 PM
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It was pretty amazing that in a field of the best runners in the world, Bolt was a few paces ahead of everyone.

metirish
Aug 06 2012 06:37 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
It was pretty amazing that in a field of the best runners in the world, Bolt was a few paces ahead of everyone.




Really, at least this time he didn't slow down to look for friends in the crowd......and really, can't NBC show this stuff live....it's a Sunday for fecks sake.....

metsmarathon
Aug 06 2012 07:05 AM
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i'm really curious who exactly is in the focus group that nbc goes to, that's telling them, "THIS is how i want to watch the olympics"

they've got plenty of channels to give us the live action when it's happening, and still sell us the prime time highlights and tales of american hardship and personal suffering that they're sure we so much want to see.

i don't have too much of a problem with tape delay - it's a necessity when the alternative is to not see the event at all - provided the announcers are live concurrent to the action. i don't want the announcers to be watching tape - i want them to be seeing it live and reacting live. i don't know that nbc is really doing much of this, but it sure feels like it sometimes. moslty, i don't trust them not to do it. but tape delay, i'm fairly okay with. we're constantly watching replays of sporting events whose outocmes are already known and knowable.

Frayed Knot
Aug 06 2012 07:11 AM
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metirish wrote:
... and really, can't NBC show this stuff live....it's a Sunday for fecks sake.....



It seems to us that there'd be little harm in showing it live for the more hard-core fans [which turned out to be late-afternoon EDT - not exactly a spot when networks are adverse to showing sports] in addition to showing their pretend-live version in prime-time later on for the general audience.
It's not like the early showing is going to 'ruin the secret'. Hell, in this day of internet, twitter and the like, anyone who wants to know will already know.
And it's not going to keep the likes of ESPN's 'Bottom Line' crawl or radio updates from spilling the results because they do that now.
And it's not like the race or even hi-lights from it are going to be shown via local stations or 'SportsCenter' due to the early showing because NBC simply embargoes all those anyway.


What it comes down to is that they don't want to offer an option that steals even one set of eyeballs from their prime-time coverage because that's what sets the ad rates.

Ceetar
Aug 06 2012 07:17 AM
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I suspect there are plenty of people that like the human interest stories and just want to see the swimming/gymnastics type events (even If i think that's a little big of chicken/egg because they want to see what NBC has always shown them..) but I can't help but wonder if the broadcast would be better, and MORE viewed, with more highlights. You don't have to show the entire ...say shotput... but show the last 5 minutes of it? bounce around and show some of the highlights from everything.

And show more countries. geeze. Obviously focus on medalling USAers, but even the people here that aren't immigrants are mostly decedent, pretty recently, from immigrants and do have some family ties to Italy or Germany or any number of countries. And hell, some of these athletes are Americans anyway that just happen to have a father born abroad and qualify for their team where they didn't make the cut here. Or something similar.

metirish
Aug 06 2012 07:18 AM
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Yeah, and apparently according to Neil Best the ratings have been huge in prime time.....I understand why they do it and good for them but like you guys said, give us the option. I'm sitting there trying to find the race and instead NBC is showing beach volleyball ....ugh, and even in prime time they give us silly Mary Carrillo features, talk about wasting time.....speaking of , where is Jimmy Roberts?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 06 2012 07:21 AM
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Jimmy Roberts is around, doing his share. Did you know that London had this thing called "pub crawls?"

Frayed Knot
Aug 06 2012 08:04 AM
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The other thing you need to remember about olympics TV coverage is that it's largely aimed towards women.
With men the networks figure that if it's a sport and on TV that they're likely to watch it anyway which allow them to gear their programming towards those who don't automatically watch sports.

So they go heavy on the likes of gymnastics, volleyball and swimming (or figure skating in winter) where female athletes draw at least as much attention if not more than the men, while things like the field events, long a staple of coverage years back, get short shrift. Yeah, they showed the shot-put, but only about six throws in hi-light form with their perennial field-guy Dwight Stones doing about a 90 second voice-over. And remember when boxing was one of the star attractions?

Then of course they go heavy on the personal stories with women viewers in mind as well as, for the casual viewer, cultural features (cue Carillo and/or Roberts) about the host country.

MFS62
Aug 06 2012 08:10 AM
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Maybe they'd attract more male viewers is this were known:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics- ... --oly.html

Note in the article, the hotlink that says there is also unlimited beer at that event.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 12:32 PM
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metsmarathon wrote:
i'm really curious who exactly is in the focus group that nbc goes to, that's telling them, "THIS is how i want to watch the olympics"


I've wondered this myself because I've been watching the Olympics since I was a kid in 1984 and every single time I hear the same complaints:

* they only show Americans
* they fill a ton of airtime with glurgey human interest stories
* they don't show things live even when they can and pretend that the replays are live
* the commentators talk too much and are often embarrassing

28 years I've been hearing the same complaints and I've never heard of anyone content with US network coverage of the Olympics. Even in the early 90s I remember people trying to pick up CBC for better coverage.

So either there's a larger market of people out there who love this crap and I just haven't heard from them, or (more likely) it's a quadrennial event that attracts a lot of interest regardless so people tune in to see what they can see.

Ceetar
Aug 06 2012 12:45 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:

28 years I've been hearing the same complaints and I've never heard of anyone content with US network coverage of the Olympics. Even in the early 90s I remember people trying to pick up CBC for better coverage.

So either there's a larger market of people out there who love this crap and I just haven't heard from them, or (more likely) it's a quadrennial event that attracts a lot of interest regardless so people tune in to see what they can see.


Right, people are tuning in for the content, not the production, but the people producing it think it's about them. It'll be like in October of 2013 when Fred Wilpon thanked the fans for believing in him and sticking with him.

Ask someone that's in Buffalo (or other such border cities) which is better, the Canadian or American broadcasts.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 01:28 PM
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Uh-oh. Speaking of Canada, their women's soccer team is up by one goal on our women in the first half of the semifinal.

metirish
Aug 06 2012 01:31 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Uh-oh. Speaking of Canada, their women's soccer team is up by one goal on our women in the first half of the semifinal.



ah man, I was hoping to avoid the score, this will be shown in prime time right?


SC = 100

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 01:56 PM
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Level, thanks to a corner from Rapinoe and shoddy defending.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 02:12 PM
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Hell of a game going on right now. Sinclair scored her second for Canada and Rapinoe responded almost immediately with her second.

themetfairy
Aug 06 2012 02:13 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
i'm really curious who exactly is in the focus group that nbc goes to, that's telling them, "THIS is how i want to watch the olympics"


I've wondered this myself because I've been watching the Olympics since I was a kid in 1984 and every single time I hear the same complaints:

* they only show Americans
* they fill a ton of airtime with glurgey human interest stories
* they don't show things live even when they can and pretend that the replays are live
* the commentators talk too much and are often embarrassing

28 years I've been hearing the same complaints and I've never heard of anyone content with US network coverage of the Olympics. Even in the early 90s I remember people trying to pick up CBC for better coverage.

So either there's a larger market of people out there who love this crap and I just haven't heard from them, or (more likely) it's a quadrennial event that attracts a lot of interest regardless so people tune in to see what they can see.


Those of us who grew up watching ABC's Olympic coverage, which included competitors and flag ceremonies from other countries, crave what we used to have.

And, G-d forbid, if ever something unexpected happened during the Olympics, Ryan Seacrest is no Jim McKay....

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 02:13 PM
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Holy shit! Sinclair scores a third for Canada.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 02:21 PM
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Wambach equalizes with a pk. 3-3.

Frayed Knot
Aug 06 2012 02:45 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 06 2012 02:48 PM

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
i'm really curious who exactly is in the focus group that nbc goes to, that's telling them, "THIS is how i want to watch the olympics"


I've wondered this myself because I've been watching the Olympics since I was a kid in 1984 and every single time I hear the same complaints:

* they only show Americans
* they fill a ton of airtime with glurgey human interest stories
* they don't show things live even when they can and pretend that the replays are live
* the commentators talk too much and are often embarrassing

28 years I've been hearing the same complaints and I've never heard of anyone content with US network coverage of the Olympics. Even in the early 90s I remember people trying to pick up CBC for better coverage.

So either there's a larger market of people out there who love this crap and I just haven't heard from them, or (more likely) it's a quadrennial event that attracts a lot of interest regardless so people tune in to see what they can see.



The biggest difference is that American TV - NBC in this case - pays so much for rights fees that the only way they can even come close to making back what they laid out (and I don't think they ever actually do) is to turn it into a big prime-time extravaganza. The olympics for the peacock network is as much a part of their brand as it is anything else. Note that the five-rings logo appears next to their name on shows virtually year round whether it's an olympic year or not.. NBC wants you to think of them as 'the olympics network' the way GHW Bush wanted to be known as 'the education president', it's a catchy feel-good slogan.
So while fans of the individual sports wonder why their favorite isn't getting top treatment from the network it's because the fans are mistaking the olympics for a sporting event. It's not a sporting event to the network suits, it's the world's largest reality TV show.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 02:47 PM
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Mets – Willets Point
Aug 06 2012 03:15 PM
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My imaginary girlfriend Alex Morgan scores in the stoppage time of extra time. USA wins 4-3!

themetfairy
Aug 06 2012 07:27 PM
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Watching Latvia playing beach volleyball is making me laugh, for all the wrong reasons.

MFS62
Aug 07 2012 09:56 AM
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The Chinese are leading in total medals 69-64.

Later

metirish
Aug 07 2012 11:17 AM
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Christ, awful stereotyping here in an Australian news site and on USA Today about Irish boxer Katie Taylor




“Punch Drunk: Ireland intoxicated as Taylor swings towards boxing gold”



“For centuries, Guinness and whiskey have sent the Irish off their heads. Now all it takes is a petite 26-year-old from Wicklow,” the opening paragraph read.

“Dark-haired, deep-eyed and engaging, Taylor is not what you’d expect in a fighting Irishwoman, nor is she surrounded by people who’d prefer a punch to a potato,” it continued.

The article was amended and the headline changed after Fairfax Media




“Back home on the emerald-green isle, pints of Guinness flowed freely, perhaps enough to replenish the Irish Sea. The "punters'' inside betting parlors wagered pounds as if they were bits of candy,” wrote the lead sports columnist for USA Today Jon Saraceno.

“It is not hyperbole to suggest that, when Taylor entered the ring, the weight of a prideful, scuffling nation rested on her muscular shoulders.”



lazy journalism right there

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 07 2012 11:39 AM
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Nonsense. It takes a lot of hard work to be as deliberately ignorant as that.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 07 2012 12:22 PM
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Exactly. There's a gallon of flopsweat in every line of that.

metirish
Aug 08 2012 06:18 AM
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I suppose, hate to seem like I am complainer about stuff but that was awful....meanwhile Brit rag claims Katie Taylor as British...haha


metirish
Aug 08 2012 07:22 AM
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Katie Taylor from Bray in Wicklow will fight for the gold tomorrow......well done

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 08 2012 08:54 AM
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This is cool.

Ashie62
Aug 08 2012 11:48 AM
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Is she hot?

Valadius
Aug 08 2012 06:17 PM
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Watching Frank Viola's daughter doing Olympic diving. Frank is there in the stands.

The Second Spitter
Aug 08 2012 08:32 PM
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metirish wrote:
Christ, awful stereotyping here in an Australian news site and on USA Today about Irish boxer Katie Taylor

lazy journalism right there


Mate, this is exemplary cultural sensitivity by the standards of this country. What amuses me is that it's from a newspaper associated with the more "educated" masses....smh@the SMH. Morning tv was mocking the Irish for overreacting.

The morale of the story is thus: don't except better from the descendants of convicts.

Fman99
Aug 08 2012 08:40 PM
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Love the track and field stuff. All of it. I ran track in 9th and 10th grade, I think I still feel personally connected to these athletes by virtue of having competed in the same events.

MFS62
Aug 08 2012 09:28 PM
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Valadius wrote:
Watching Frank Viola's daughter doing Olympic diving. Frank is there in the stands.

Let me guess.
Joba Chamberlain isn't there watching his kid compete in the trampoline.

Later

Frayed Knot
Aug 08 2012 10:19 PM
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Love the track and field stuff. All of it. I ran track in 9th and 10th grade, I think I still feel personally connected to these athletes by virtue of having competed in the same events.


NBC has been good on the track stuff, not so much on the field events.

First problem (as always) is that no American in the event means essentially no event. I think the discuss coverage involved showing a total of three throws. Or maybe it was four.
Then they give the Reader's Digest treatment (aka: Dwight Stones doing a quickie after-the-fact voiceover) to the ones they do show which takes any flow that exists in that event and tosses it out the window. They then compound that drawback by insisting on taking that limited coverage and splitting it up into multiple segments. 'Hey, here's one minute of long jump coverage ... and don't forget to join us sometime next hour and we'll try and show you another minute.'
Shit, if you're going to boil the whole long jump down to just three minutes of taped hi-lights in the first place I think I've got the attention span to handle all in one sitting.


At least with Americans sitting at 1-2 in the decathlon at the end of day 1 it looks like we'll get some serious coverage on that on Wednesday.

Frayed Knot
Aug 08 2012 10:20 PM
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What percentage of competitors do you suppose have the five-ring symbol tattooed on themselves somewhere?

And do you suppose the ones that do had to get IOC permission first?

MFS62
Aug 09 2012 09:30 AM
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I volunteer to check the Dutch Women's Field Hockey team for hidden tattoos.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 09 2012 12:59 PM
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USA women up by 1 early on a Carli Lloyd header in the gold medal match versus Japan.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 09 2012 01:01 PM
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Olympians go underground.

Frayed Knot
Aug 09 2012 01:31 PM
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[bigpurple:3eo25c2t]PARTIAL SPOILER ALERT[/bigpurple:3eo25c2t]




















South Africa's 4x400m relay team failed to finish their heat in the semis when their 2nd-leg runner crashed with a Kenyan runner and both went down in a heap. Pistorius, scheduled to run the 3rd leg, never got the baton.


BUT ... a protest was lodged and it was judged that the Kenyan runner cut off the South African causing him to fall so the SA team was reinstated and will run in the finals tonight.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 09 2012 02:43 PM
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The USA takes the gold with a 2-1 victory over Japan.

MFS62
Aug 09 2012 04:10 PM
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Holy crap!

This guy deserves his own medal.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics-- ... relay.html

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 09 2012 06:43 PM
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What's the deal with the volleyball players and electrical taped shoulders, and the divers and their back tape?

I might guess the latter aids those TV special effects somehow but I actually don't get it.

metsmarathon
Aug 09 2012 08:37 PM
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the tape is kinesio tape. good stuff.

does the back patch have something to do with those silly splashmeters that nbc is showing?

themetfairy
Aug 09 2012 08:58 PM
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metsmarathon wrote:
the tape is kinesio tape. good stuff.



Would you recommend it for minor knee soreness?

Frayed Knot
Aug 09 2012 09:29 PM
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You watch the 1,500 finale to the decathlon and it looks like they're running in slow motion compared to what the top 1,500 guys would run or even compared to a championship 5K pace, and you think they're slacking off and could run faster if they wanted to.
And then seconds after they all cross the finish line you see them laying scattered and exhausted all over the track like someone is having an athlete lawn sale and you remember, oh yeah, there was a bunch of stuff leading up to this.

metsmarathon
Aug 09 2012 09:44 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
metsmarathon wrote:
the tape is kinesio tape. good stuff.



Would you recommend it for minor knee soreness?


mrs.mm swears my it. she got taped up prior to, iirc, the marine corps marathon, and it helped a lot on her way to a rocking pr.

i keep on meaning to give it a try. if i ever run again, that is. (i'm getting there)

they have a website full of application instructions for home use. if you have a chance to go to a taping booth at a race expo, i highly recommend it.

Frayed Knot
Aug 09 2012 10:01 PM
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Bob Costas's smartest decision of his whole Olympics coverage? --- conducting his interviews with these female athletes (swimmers, volleyball players, soccer chicks, etc.) while sitting down.
They might lose him in the picture otherwise.

themetfairy
Aug 10 2012 06:12 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
metsmarathon wrote:
the tape is kinesio tape. good stuff.



Would you recommend it for minor knee soreness?


mrs.mm swears my it. she got taped up prior to, iirc, the marine corps marathon, and it helped a lot on her way to a rocking pr.

i keep on meaning to give it a try. if i ever run again, that is. (i'm getting there)

they have a website full of application instructions for home use. if you have a chance to go to a taping booth at a race expo, i highly recommend it.


I'll look into that - thanks!

And glad that the end of the DL appears to be approaching.

Vic Sage
Aug 10 2012 08:01 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
You watch the 1,500 finale to the decathlon and it looks like they're running in slow motion compared to what the top 1,500 guys would run or even compared to a championship 5K pace, and you think they're slacking off and could run faster if they wanted to.
And then seconds after they all cross the finish line you see them laying scattered and exhausted all over the track like someone is having an athlete lawn sale and you remember, oh yeah, there was a bunch of stuff leading up to this.


worlds greatest athletes, dontcha know.
Ha.
World's most consistently mediocre athletes at a random selection of track & field events is more to the point.
but win and get your face on a box of wheaties and you get to fuck a Kardashian (the WRONG Kardashian, but still).

MFS62
Aug 10 2012 08:16 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
mrs.mm swears my it. she got taped up prior to, iirc, the marine corps marathon,

You married a Marine?

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 10 2012 08:23 AM
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When I did the Boston-NY AIDSRide many years ago, on the third day I ended up with achilles tendonitis and it was too painful to pedal. The guy in the medical tent taped up my ankles and it was like a freakin' miracle and I finished the ride. And that is about the most athletic thing I can ever say about my life.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 10 2012 08:39 AM
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Vic Sage wrote:
worlds greatest athletes, dontcha know.
Ha.
World's most consistently mediocre athletes at a random selection of track & field events is more to the point.
but win and get your face on a box of wheaties and you get to fuck a Kardashian (the WRONG Kardashian, but still).


I know you're just funnin', but... come on, man. One still has to do most-- if not all-- events pretty damn well to get points, and one would also be hard pressed to get most track thoroughbreds to perform more than ONE of their specialized races a day.

But if speed's your thing... did you-- or anyone else here-- see David Rudisha yesterday? 1:40 for a half-mile? JEBUS.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 10 2012 08:41 AM
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twas ridiculous.

That one Decathlete, Trey Hardee or whatever, needs to chill.

Edgy MD
Aug 10 2012 08:58 AM
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Trey Hardee], most likely to display paintings of himself as a centaur.

Vic Sage
Aug 10 2012 09:10 AM
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I know you're just funnin', but... come on, man. One still has to do most-- if not all-- events pretty damn well to get points, and one would also be hard pressed to get most track thoroughbreds to perform more than ONE of their specialized races a day.


i am joking (mostly), and decathletes are pretty remarkable. But a guy who can do a shot put, a long jump, a pole vault and a sprint is unlikely to do all (or even any) of those things well enough to be an Olympic champion (they require such different skills and body types), but if he does them all (plus 6 other events) over 2 days, at performance levels that wouldn't medal or even necessarily make it past qualifying rounds but better than the group of other freakish decathletes against whom he is competing, he's (as King Gustav said) "the world's greatest athlete". Well, maybe Jim Thorpe was, when the King called him that, but i doubt many others have been.

I actually think they should change the Women's Decathlon back to the ancient Greek "Pentathlon": long jump, discus throw, javelin throw, sprint and a wrestling match. And it should be done naked... you know, for tradition's sake.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 10 2012 09:12 AM
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You're going to want to grease them, too, to cut down on friction injuries.

Edgy MD
Aug 10 2012 09:19 AM
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I agree that what constitutes "athelticism" is pretty subjective, but the decathlete definition --- running, jumping, throwing --- is a pretty good one, though hardly definitive. Swimming? Climbing? Something for hand-eye coordination? A shuttle run to measure quickness? Greco-Roman wrasslin? Are these nor core skills of an athlete?

Ceetar
Aug 10 2012 09:32 AM
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Vic Sage wrote:
I know you're just funnin', but... come on, man. One still has to do most-- if not all-- events pretty damn well to get points, and one would also be hard pressed to get most track thoroughbreds to perform more than ONE of their specialized races a day.


i am joking (mostly), and decathletes are pretty remarkable. But a guy who can do a shot put, a long jump, a pole vault and a sprint is unlikely to do all (or even any) of those things well enough to be an Olympic champion (they require such different skills and body types), but if he does them all (plus 6 other events) over 2 days, at performance levels that wouldn't medal or even necessarily make it past qualifying rounds but better than the group of other freakish decathletes against whom he is competing, he's (as King Gustav said) "the world's greatest athlete". Well, maybe Jim Thorpe was, when the King called him that, but i doubt many others have been.

I actually think they should change the Women's Decathlon back to the ancient Greek "Pentathlon": long jump, discus throw, javelin throw, sprint and a wrestling match. And it should be done naked... you know, for tradition's sake.


Isn't that like saying da Vinci should've stuck to painting though?

I'm in for the Pentathlon. They can still play beach volleyball if they like too.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 10 2012 09:33 AM
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American Decathalon

1. Home Run Derby
2. Pitching velocity
3. Field Goal Place Kicking
4. Three-point shootout
5. H-O-R-S-E
6. Slam Dunk Contest
7. Freestyle skateboard
8. Disc golf
9. Stoop ball
10. Jumping over school buses on a motorcycle.

Ceetar
Aug 10 2012 09:36 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
American Decathalon

1. Home Run Derby
2. Pitching velocity
3. Field Goal Place Kicking
4. Three-point shootout
5. H-O-R-S-E
6. Slam Dunk Contest
7. Freestyle skateboard
8. Disc golf
9. Stoop ball
10. Jumping over school buses on a motorcycle.


need beer pong in there somewhere.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 10 2012 09:39 AM
Re: Olympian Action!

Ceetar wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
American Decathalon

1. Home Run Derby
2. Pitching velocity
3. Field Goal Place Kicking
4. Three-point shootout
5. H-O-R-S-E
6. Slam Dunk Contest
7. Freestyle skateboard
8. Disc golf
9. Stoop ball
10. Jumping over school buses on a motorcycle.


need beer pong in there somewhere.


Probably could sub that in for stoop ball since kids these days would be more experienced at beer pong. Oh, and at the Olympics the game will be called Malted Beverage Table Tennis.

Ceetar
Aug 10 2012 09:46 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
American Decathalon

1. Home Run Derby
2. Pitching velocity
3. Field Goal Place Kicking
4. Three-point shootout
5. H-O-R-S-E
6. Slam Dunk Contest
7. Freestyle skateboard
8. Disc golf
9. Stoop ball
10. Jumping over school buses on a motorcycle.


need beer pong in there somewhere.


Probably could sub that in for stoop ball since kids these days would be more experienced at beer pong. Oh, and at the Olympics the game will be called Malted Beverage Table Tennis.


the sponsor for that one could pay for the whole Olympics.

MFS62
Aug 10 2012 09:48 AM
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A few years ago, USA Today polled a group of "experts" from a wide range of sports. And when all the voting was done, they voted one thing as "the most difficult thing to do in sports". By a wide margin. It was hitting a baseball.
Many athletes who excelled at other sports could barely do that at a minor league level. The list includes Michael Jordan, Bill Sharman and Jim Thorpe.
Edgy, there's your hand- eye competition event. Maybe a home run derby kind of competition.

Later

Edgy MD
Aug 10 2012 10:43 AM
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Michael Jordan walked in off the street and put up a .556 OPS in AA at 31 after not facing live pitching since high school. I defy anybody to do as well, much less anybody with the massive strike zone of 6'6" NBA player.

Jm Thorpe was a player and I have no doubt he could have played big league ball and played it modestly well --- fat ass, crappy stance, and all --- hadn't history been otherwise conspiring.

Frayed Knot
Aug 10 2012 11:09 AM
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Basketball players are the world's greatest athletes and it's not even close.
I know this because the guys on ESPN tell me that all the time.



Women do the Heptathlon btw. No 100m sprint, no pole vault, no discus (and the 200m & 800m subbed in for the 400m and 1,500m that the men do)
Jackie Joyner-Kersee was one of the few who could compete (and win) in that and also was world-class at one of the individual events, the long jump.

Edgy MD
Aug 10 2012 11:17 AM
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Essays are trying to tell me that Usain Bolt has destroyed his reputation by ripping Carl Lewis, particularly among Americans who love their Carl Lewis.

Only problem is that (a) Lewis picked this fight, (b) Americans that I know either don't give two thoughts to Carl Lewis in a year or dimly remember him as a great sprinter who revealed himself to be a complete tool in dubious pursuit of Michael Jackson-level celebrity, and (c) even the most reactionary patriot remembers him as a butcher of the national anthem.

Bolt's got a mouth as fast and dangerous as his feet. So did Lewis. He may well turn out to be doper and his see his reputation crumble, but it won't go up in flames because he talked back to Carl Lewis when asked.

Frayed Knot
Aug 10 2012 11:23 AM
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Carl Lewis seems almost ARod-ish to me.
Unbelievably talented, rich and famous because of it, and praised to the high heavens by most, yet not secure enough in all that to keep from sniffing out the praise he isn't getting.

metirish
Aug 10 2012 11:27 AM
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It all seems a bit desperate from Lewis , shitty thing to say about Jamaica right after they go 1-2-3 in the 200.
Here is something I can't ever remember about Lewis. the other night when Bolt was being interviewed by some TV station he paused because the Spanish National Anthem started and let it play through.Some of the Irish athletes that have met him say he's great fun and easy to be around....no "stay away from me" BS.....


Meanwhile here is a bunch of pics showing a bored Bolt destroying the competition.


http://deadspin.com/5933655/photos-of-u ... /gallery/1

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 10 2012 11:43 AM
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A good amount of Reggie in there, too.

Swan Swan H
Aug 10 2012 11:48 AM
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Just a random snapshot - last night before the 200m final Bolt finished putting his stuff in the plastic bin behind the starting blocks. The attendant, who is likely under orders not to bother the athletes or face certain death, stared straight ahead. Bolt got his attention, then gave the guy a fist bump. The next shot was straight-on looking at Bolt, and the attendant was over his shoulder sporting a huge grin. Nice.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 10 2012 12:18 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
A good amount of Reggie in there, too.


I read this as "A good amount of Reggae in there, too."

Ceetar
Aug 10 2012 12:19 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Just a random snapshot - last night before the 200m final Bolt finished putting his stuff in the plastic bin behind the starting blocks. The attendant, who is likely under orders not to bother the athletes or face certain death, stared straight ahead. Bolt got his attention, then gave the guy a fist bump. The next shot was straight-on looking at Bolt, and the attendant was over his shoulder sporting a huge grin. Nice.


That stuff is worth so much more than 5 minutes of Costas or whoever blabbering on about him. Keep the cameras on the stars and the events.

Edgy MD
Aug 10 2012 01:51 PM
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It's also quite possible that Lewis has a long-time grudge, having lost his World's Fastest Dude title to roiding Jamaican Ben Johnson (running for Canada) in the 1987 World Championships and the 1988 Olympics. The titles were both retroactively awarded to Lewis but he missed his crowning moments on both occasions and just cam off as a jerk in post-race interviews --- though a jerk eventually proven correct.

Frayed Knot
Aug 10 2012 03:04 PM
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That one Decathlete, Trey Hardee or whatever, needs to chill.


You mean TREY FROM TEXAS WHO TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH RED BULL AND OTHER CAFFEINE HE CONSUMES EACH DAY? THAT GUY?

The two Americans are supposedly friends and all but it was pretty easy to discern which was the Texan and which the west coast (Oregon) native.



btw, since I complained pre-Olympics about NBC's tendency to barely cover things like the decathlon -- [OK, nine events are already in the bag and here's the standings at the end of them ... now we'll show you the 1,500 even though it's only a formality at this point] -- I suppose I need to complement them for actually showing at least part of all ten events this year.
The only problem was that, as far as I could tell, there were apparently just two competitors entered plus a bunch of extras that I think were just there to round out the TV shot like seat-fillers at an awards show. And, oddly enough, both guys happened to be wearing similar uniforms.

Eaton and Hardee, in addition to being 'mericans, were 1-2 from the very first round so it was natural that they got the lion's share of the coverage. But, over the two days, at least four* different athletes held on to 3rd place at some point and the story of who had it and how each were grabbing and/or losing that spot was a total mystery to the audience.


* I specifically remember a Russian, a black Canadian, the eventual bronze medal Cuban, and the most stereotypical German guy you ever saw in your life all holding onto to 3rd place at some point during the events.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 10 2012 03:21 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
the most stereotypical German guy you ever saw in your life


Was he wearing leiderhosen or an SS uniform?

Frayed Knot
Aug 10 2012 05:07 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
the most stereotypical German guy you ever saw in your life


Was he wearing leiderhosen or an SS uniform?


He didn't look like a Nazi necessarily, just kind of like the bigger, more athletic brother of the guy singing 'Tomorrow Belongs to Me' at that beer garden in 'Cabaret'

In fact, this is him




But your question does make me wonder whether there's a 'Bavarian Games' or something where they compete in leiderhosen the way Scots compete in kilts during their Highland Games.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 10 2012 06:08 PM
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I was just trying to think of the most stereotypical German things possible. But you're right, he looks German. He could be model for a poster from the 1936 Olympics.

Swan Swan H
Aug 10 2012 07:38 PM
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OK, assume someone on this board knows the answer. Halfway through the second leg of the 4x400 relay the runners are allowed to break from their lanes. How do the runners taking the second baton pass line up? It's not in original lane order, because the US was in lane 9 but lined up third from the inside. Is it by approximate position? The whole thing looks like the lunch bell just rang on pizza day.

Ashie62
Aug 10 2012 08:02 PM
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You folks know little about Germany.

But, I guess stereotyping is quicker.

Edgy MD
Aug 10 2012 08:46 PM
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I know loads about Germany.

Vic Sage
Aug 10 2012 09:11 PM
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i used to have alot of relatives who knew all kinds of things about Germany. Ironically, the Germans killed them all, leaving me ignorant on the topic.

Ashie62
Aug 10 2012 09:19 PM
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If anyone did that type of stereotyping with Jewish athletes there would be holy hell. It doesn't make it right.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 10 2012 10:33 PM
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[Clicks heels together]
[Salutes in assent]
[Rolls half-German eyes]

Frayed Knot
Aug 10 2012 10:34 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2012 01:35 PM

Swan Swan H wrote:
OK, assume someone on this board knows the answer. Halfway through the second leg of the 4x400 relay the runners are allowed to break from their lanes. How do the runners taking the second baton pass line up? It's not in original lane order, because the US was in lane 9 but lined up third from the inside. Is it by approximate position? The whole thing looks like the lunch bell just rang on pizza day.


The short answer is that the runners pretty much make things up as the race goes along.
1st pass is while you're still in lanes so that's no problem, but the 2nd & 3rd can get a bit dicey.

Where you most want to be, of course, after the lanes break, is on the inside - and since the leader among the incoming runners is most likely to be on the inside his/her receiving partner should get first dibs on that inside lane for the pass. I don't know exactly how the rules that govern the process are expressed or enforced (I suspect it's mostly honor code) but a waiting receiver hogging the inside lane even as his team is bringing up the rear could get his squad disqualified for blocking the others since that scenario would almost certainly cause a ton of criss-crossing arms, legs, bodies, and batons as inside runners have to cut over to try and pass to outside receivers and vice versa and so on.

Where it gets interesting is that the exact order of the incoming runners isn't always clear and can still be changing in the late meters of each leg which in turn leads to a lot of jockeying for position among the receivers even to the point where things can start to resemble the lane underneath an NBA basket complete with boxing out techniques and blatant shoving.




I'm impressed that none of the U.S. squads have screwed up any baton passes so far.
The record of our teams in recent years has been about the same as NYM catchers holding on to throws from the outfield ... y'know, like once in a while the deal ends up without the transfered object laying on the ground somewhere while a guy nearby stands there staring into his empty hand or glove.
Of course there's still the men's 4x100 on Saturday night.

Vic Sage
Aug 11 2012 06:52 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
If anyone did that type of stereotyping with Jewish athletes there would be holy hell. It doesn't make it right.


if you're referring to me, my statement wasn't a "stereotype"; it was a statement of historical fact (albeit slightly exaggerated) about my family history. And the last time Jewish athletes were stereotyped, it was in Munich in `72. There was indeed holy hell to pay, but it was paid by the athletes themselves. Aly Raissman paid tribute to them last week, while the Olympic Committee chose to forget the 40th anniversary of their deaths.

Swan Swan H
Aug 11 2012 07:45 AM
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Thanks, FK.

Ceetar
Aug 11 2012 09:35 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:



But your question does make me wonder whether there's a 'Bavarian Games' or something where they compete in leiderhosen the way Scots compete in kilts during their Highland Games.


Sure, I'm going in September.


You've got the "how many litres of beer can you carry contest.



Plenty of leiderhosen and dirndls.

Kong76
Aug 11 2012 10:22 AM
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My great grandfather came to NY from Germany. There is a town
in Germany with the same surname. I always wondered if immigration
just slapped that last name on him or if there was some other significance.
Anyway, he had red hair and so did my grandfather (so I was told).
If Hollywood has a Nazi movie that they're casting, that pictured dude
could definitely play a Nazi.

The end of gold-medal soccer match was exciting! That guy that missed
the late header is going to have nightmares for a month.

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2012 11:08 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
My great grandfather came to NY from Germany. There is a town in Germany with the same surname.
I always wondered if immigration just slapped that last name on him or if there was some other significance.


Otherwise known as pulling a Vito Corleone,

Kong76
Aug 11 2012 11:20 AM
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Good one!

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 11 2012 11:24 AM
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North American teams claim the gold in both women's and men's soccer. Suck it Europe and South America.

metsmarathon
Aug 11 2012 08:51 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
metsmarathon wrote:
mrs.mm swears my it. she got taped up prior to, iirc, the marine corps marathon,

You married a Marine?

Later


nah, they let anyone run the race.

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2012 09:20 PM
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Gotta like Usain Bolt's t-shirt that he was wearing at some point during the training films they were showing.

WALK
JOG
RUN
SPRINT
BOLT

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 11 2012 10:10 PM
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I think I enjoyed the Holley Mangold shirts more:

RUNNING SUCKS

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
North American teams claim the gold in both women's and men's soccer. Suck it Europe and South America.


Yeah... can't say I was rooting for our North American brethren earlier today. Though I wish our neighbors to the south no ill otherwise, well, I'd rather root for Man U or the Gunners than a Mexican soccer team; I assumed that most USMNT fans felt the same way.

Kong76
Aug 12 2012 08:25 AM
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ES PAN A
ES PAN A
ES PAN A

I know an upset is unlikely, but it would be a lot of fun!

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2012 08:26 AM
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Putting up a 4:42 mile at Mile 24 of the marathon - as eventual gold medal winner Steven Kiprotich of Uganda did - strikes me as something inhuman.

Kong76
Aug 12 2012 09:05 AM
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USA up by only a tiny sniffle at the half.

ES PAN A
ES PAN A
ES PAN A

Kong76
Aug 12 2012 10:04 AM
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Well, that sucked.
Spain a handful of bricks away from Olympic history.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2012 11:53 AM
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I only saw a chunk of the 2nd half - plus don't know enough about basketball for my opinion mean much anyway - but the U.S. seemed content to just sit outside and chuck threes, something which struck me as kind of an odd and rather timid (not to mention boring) strategy even as Spain certainly had little trouble getting inside. I assume it had something to do with knowing going in that your biggest weakness was a lack of size and, ultimately, I guess they won because they simply nailed their bombs at a better rate then did the Spanish. But, aside for LeBron getting loose once due to a Spanish mix-up and the occasional put-back off an offensive rebound, I don't think I saw them score inside about 15 feet, or even try to.

In the end, a close game, but not necessarily a thrilling one.


And then they were nearly guilty of premature self-congratulations.
And hey, Doug Collins, just a bit over the top with the praise maybe? I really don't need to hear more stories about the "hardships" LeBron has gone through, particularly when you act as if;
1) a series of random occurrences somehow befell him in recent years as opposed to his life being the result of events he specifically set in motion,
and
2) the horror of having to wait until the second year of his self-picked team for his NBA championship somehow makes him the American equivalent of Oscar Pistorius

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 12 2012 12:22 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:

Yeah... can't say I was rooting for our North American brethren earlier today. Though I wish our neighbors to the south no ill otherwise, well, I'd rather root for Man U or the Gunners than a Mexican soccer team; I assumed that most USMNT fans felt the same way.


Yeah, but since the US men's U23 team couldn't even bother to qualify for the Olympics, may as well bask in some reflected glory. Besides it's the first time CONCACAF claimed a gold. And any success for the Mexican team has to ultimately good for the US too.

Kong76
Aug 12 2012 12:26 PM
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Doug Collins is a dickhead.
I'm happy for Chandler, who I think is the most 'rootable' guy on
the team by a long shot.
Would have been happier if he got the silver.

Vic Sage
Aug 12 2012 12:51 PM
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we got away with no injuries to Chandler or Anthony, so "yea!"
that's the extent of my interest.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 12 2012 01:41 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
we got away with no injuries to Chandler or Anthony, so "yea!"
that's the extent of my interest.


Fourth-quarter ankle sprain-- or something along those lines-- for Melo, no?

MFS62
Aug 12 2012 02:36 PM
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Spoiler Alert


Its 4:30 PM EST on Sunday, and the closing ceremonies are going on right now.
I'm not going to divulge which team is the happiest.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 12 2012 03:59 PM
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MFS62 wrote:

I'm not going to divulge which team is the happiest.


Probably the Danes because they're all going home to Denmark to have sex with the Danish person of their choice.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 12 2012 09:49 PM
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I was gonna say something but I know one Danish person and I'd totally bang his wife.

MFS62
Aug 13 2012 07:48 AM
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MMYF asked why Level 42 and Wang Chung weren't there.
If the Pretenders showed up, I missed them, too.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 13 2012 08:44 AM
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I was kind of shocked that the Stones, Elton John and Coldplay stayed away from this business. (Less so about Bowie, Bush, and ELO-- despite use of their music-- but still...)

MFS62
Aug 13 2012 08:57 AM
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I think Sir Elton was at the opening ceremonies.
At least they didn't have Duran Duran sing about the next games in Rio.

Later

Edgy MD
Aug 13 2012 01:50 PM
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Crazy that two of three US men's marathoners pulled up lame, while the other got an impressive fourth place, but all three Ethiopians were non-finishers? Wow.

Kong76
Aug 13 2012 01:55 PM
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*insert* stereotypical Ethiopian comment here */insert*
And don't get me started on Ugandans either.

metirish
Aug 14 2012 03:41 PM
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Deadspin decided to track how many times countries and athletes got mentioned by NBC, it is interesting to say the least.

http://m.deadspin.com/5934242?utm_campa ... socialflow

davidayden399
Sep 26 2012 06:55 AM
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Edgy MD
Sep 26 2012 07:05 AM
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