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Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Chad Ochoseis Jul 30 2012 04:42 PM

Adam Rubin says Baxter likely to return today, with Niewy shuffling off to Buffalo to make room. 10:15 start. [youtube]ThdCEVhOPvM[/youtube]

Chad Ochoseis Jul 30 2012 05:06 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Tejada ss Torres cf Wright 3b Hairston rf Davis 1b Bay lf Cedeno 2b Johnson c Hefner p Scutaro 3B Theriot 2B Cabrera LF Posey C Pagan CF Schierholtz RF Belt 1B Crawford SS Bumgarner P

Fman99 Jul 30 2012 07:20 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Dog tired, 55 minutes before the first pitch. Fuck you, rotating spherical Earth.

Ceetar Jul 30 2012 07:36 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Fman99 wrote: Dog tired, 55 minutes before the first pitch. Fuck you, rotating spherical Earth. fuck you Walter O'Malley? or Horace Stoneham in this case?

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 08:47 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Jason Bay looks the test case for the discussion between Vic and Ceetar about whether a random person could hit major league pitching.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:01 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Let's garner that run back.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:04 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Swan Swan H wrote: Jason Bay looks the test case for the discussion between Vic and Ceetar about whether a random person could hit major league pitching. Seeing him go down on 87-MPH high heat from a lefty this weekend was most distressing.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:07 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Give him heck, Terry.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 09:08 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Since they showed the play that inspired these strips: The real kicker here is that these ran over a month apart.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:10 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Good time for some anti-lefty magic, Bay.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:13 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Bummy G. fears the Bay.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 09:14 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Rubin reminds us that this is the umpiring crew that bollixed up the series in Atlanta.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2012 09:16 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

I got Ronny Cedeno fever.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:17 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Way to give 'em heck, Ronny.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 09:18 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

C'mon Hefner, do hurt 'em.

Gwreck Jul 30 2012 09:19 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

So I tune in, not seeing the lineups and after Bay walks, Ronny comes up. Nice hit. But then there's another hitter (not the pitcher) after Cedeno! And I think to myself, what kind of world are we living in where Jason Bay could possibly be hitting higher than seventh?

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:23 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Shut up! He's a walk machine! A walk machine that just scored the go-ahead run, thank you very much!

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:25 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Ooh, Johnson. Corralling the ball is not your specialty.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:30 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Good play by Ike to get Belt. Surprised they pitched to Crawford, but then they gave up being cute and went ahead and walked him after 2-0.

Gwreck Jul 30 2012 09:30 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Swan Swan H wrote: Rubin reminds us that this is the umpiring crew that bollixed up the series in Atlanta. Costa mentions that there is speculation in the Mets clubhouse that umps have lingering resentment of Alderson, leading to calls against Mets.

Gwreck Jul 30 2012 09:31 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Edgy DC wrote: Good play by Ike to get Belt. Surprised they pitched to Crawford, but then they gave up being cute and went ahead and walked him after 2-0. Keith giving it to Ike on SNY broadcast for not getting the double play.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:34 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Keith would have gotten it. But part of grace is knowing your limitations. Raise your hand if you thought Hef was going to get out of that.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 09:35 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Gwreck wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Good play by Ike to get Belt. Surprised they pitched to Crawford, but then they gave up being cute and went ahead and walked him after 2-0. Keith giving it to Ike on SNY broadcast for not getting the double play. That's the second one of those in the last week or so where Ike had the chance to go 3-6-3 but didn't try. This one was worse in that if you fail to turn it's just one run in the 4th inning. Last time it would have meant the game so more caution was required.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 09:37 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Gwreck wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: Rubin reminds us that this is the umpiring crew that bollixed up the series in Atlanta. Costa mentions that there is speculation in the Mets clubhouse that umps have lingering resentment of Alderson, leading to calls against Mets. I had forgotten about that phase of Alderson's career - just looked it up. Paranoia, or is there something more to it?

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:40 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Torres giving these fans a taste of what they lost today. Looks like he's hurting though. Nieuwie may be back faster than he expected.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 09:42 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Valdy is probably our centerfield backup, but we may be getting some Baxter Axion.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 09:59 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Nice swing by Bay, and good baserunning. It would be understandable, if not necessarily acceptable, to try to stretch that one after not getting a hit in a week. He should get at least one more AB tonight to start a new 0-23 streak.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 10:01 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

And he gets that base anyhow with a steal. But Ronny C. is one heroic act short.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 10:09 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Make that two. How many no-brainer DPs have the Mets not made this year?

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 10:10 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

So how many failed GiDPs that led directly to a run is that this season? My estimate is somewhere around 87 And with Huff limping right out of the box they had all day to turn that one.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 10:14 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

And now the fuck-up leads to multiple runs - and we're still not out of this yet.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 10:20 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Here comes Brad Penny. I am experiencing a sudden urge of optimism.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 10:22 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

I forgot to put Penny on my KTE He'd be on the Olympic Asshole team. In fact he'd be the captain.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 10:26 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

We can't turn double-plays but we're really good at hitting into them

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 10:37 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Not that the Mets aren't digging their own graves here - but geez the Giants are getting a bunch of piece o' shit hits tonight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2012 10:45 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Here's our chance.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 10:45 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

'Spin is the new Staub. OE: Only with operable legs.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2012 10:48 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Hairy!

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 10:49 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

We love Hairy!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 10:49 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

TRADE PRICE! TRADE PRICE! TRADE PRICE!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2012 10:56 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

What the hell, another big moment for Turner.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 10:56 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

TWO-FOR-ONE! TWO-FOR-ONE!

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 10:56 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Wow! This is a celebration of guys who I half expected to be gone by tonight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2012 10:57 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Unusual rally continues.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2012 10:58 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Oh, fuck, it's 1 am

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 10:58 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

ACT NOW, AND WE'LL THROW IN A ROB JOHNSON... ABSOLUTELY FREE!

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 10:58 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Another inning turns on a double play that could have been.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 10:59 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

I didn't expect Johnson to be gone by tonight.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:05 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Rauch on to pitch the eighth. Perhaps more importantly, Valdy on in center.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:07 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

And just think of how much easier that inning could have gone had not every hitter (or most of them anyway) not started their AB in an 0-2 hole

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:07 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Ooooh, a nice quick one from the Rauch monster.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:07 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Edgy DC wrote: Rauch on to pitch the eighth. Perhaps more importantly, Valdy on in center. He looks like an outfielder. Who knew?

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:13 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

OK, let's tuck in Edgy sweetly tonight, you Mets. Love the added runs after the homer.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:16 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Frayed Knot wrote: Ooooh, a nice quick one from the Rauch monster. Just to make it official, yes, they should bring him out for the ninth.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:16 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Good thing we didn't leave Rauch in there. We might have to suffer through another 8 pitch 1-2-3 inning or something.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:18 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Eh, it's not like Parnell is going to put the leadoff hitter on in front of the one guy on this team with power or anything. Oh wait.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:19 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Well, this got ugly in a heartbeat.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:20 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

And so it begins.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:25 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Parnell in July - 10 IP, 4 runs on 16 baserunners Rauch in July - 7.2 IP, 1 run on 5 baserunners So it's not even like we're sticking with the hot hand here

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 11:25 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Is it me, or does each Bobby Parnell outing feel increasingly like a somewhat-talented student who hasn't studied trying to flail his way through a final exam? And great, Bucknor's getting squeezy.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:27 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 30 2012 11:29 PM

This has to be the un-clutch-est defense I've ever seen. All year they've been doing this shit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 11:27 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Good. Lord. Posey wasn't even breaking. AT ALL. Davis could have hung back and played that ball even with the bag. He could have stayed where he was, at the first-base cutout. He could have waited, gotten in front of it, let it hit him in the chest, then scooped it up and been able to throw home if necessary.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:35 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

And yet another infield hit that could have been turned but wasn't.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:36 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Of course it's Scutaro, who couldn't start the DP and had the ball go off his glove during the Mets rally. In his first game as a Giant. Any other karmic indicators going against the Mets here?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 11:38 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Swan Swan H wrote: Of course it's Scutaro, who couldn't start the DP and had the ball go off his glove during the Mets rally. In his first game as a Giant. Any other karmic indicators going against the Mets here? I'm stunned the game didn't end there.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:40 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Edgin with the big balls there. How about getting a lead that not even Acosta can blow?

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:40 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Team effort both ways here. Still, Terry, you shouldna pulled Rauchie.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:41 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Y'know, it's bad enough to cling to strict notions about who has to pitch the 8th inning and who has to pitch the 9th - but it's even worse to reserve the 9th inning for someone who has never shown the slightest hint of earning that kind of respect. And then to just hand it to him following a 7-pitch 1-2-3 8th inning where no PH was needed ...

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:43 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Thank god Hairston showed up tonight. Lord knows that the rest of the middle of the lineup hasn't. We're back to having a Hairy good time again.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:43 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Don't touch my Hair!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 11:43 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

THIS CAN BE YOURS, CONTENDING TEAMS, IF YOU BUY NOW!

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:44 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

You magnificent hairy bastard. Good luck wherever Sandy sends you.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 11:46 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Golden Sombrero, Iron Glove. Ike's left one big Anchor Steamer on the field tonight.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:47 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Golden Sombrero, Iron Glove. Ike's left one big Anchor Steamer on the field tonight. Plus the cement head for not getting the DP earlier.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:47 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Welcome Bax.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:47 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Jason Bay = on-base machine tonight!

Edgy MD Jul 30 2012 11:48 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Swan Swan H wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Golden Sombrero, Iron Glove. Ike's left one big Anchor Steamer on the field tonight. Plus the cement head for not getting the DP earlier. Maybe overdue for a night off.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 11:49 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Mike F*cking Baxter.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:53 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

I'll give Bay this, he's a good base runner. I was screaming 'Stay at 2nd!' on Baxter's hit. oe - and that base just created a run Now we just need 3 or 4 more to make this Acosta-proof

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:54 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Can't anybody here play this game?

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2012 11:56 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Tejada's another one who's had a tough night.

Swan Swan H Jul 30 2012 11:57 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Angry Bruce Bochy is fun to watch. From a safe distance.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2012 11:59 PM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Swan Swan H wrote: Angry Bruce Bochy is fun to watch. From a safe distance. Well, yes. Something that big blows, it could cause a singularity. Acostalypse, now.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 12:01 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Of course he walks the leadoff batter.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 12:02 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Nice that the pr assignment in the last inning got Posey out of the game.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 12:03 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Getting Cabrera is big, but Acosta doesn't seem to appreciate the gift that is Eli Whiteside in Posey's spot.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 12:06 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Ah yes, the old 'retire the all-star but walk the chumps' strategy.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 12:09 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Let's. Wrap. This. Up.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 12:09 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

OK, two out. They can't blow a potential game-ending DP. At least not in this inning.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 12:10 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 12:11 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

O, plurg!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 31 2012 12:11 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

What a terrible fucking pitch to throw when ahead in the count.

The Second Spitter Jul 31 2012 12:13 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

This is sickening, I can't bear to watch.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 12:13 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Damn. Thing. Over. Goodnight, ladies.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 12:13 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2012 12:16 AM

I think we just won it but I'm not totally sure yet.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 12:14 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Well, that was about eight feet short of a disaster.

The Second Spitter Jul 31 2012 12:15 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Edgy DC wrote: Damn. Thing. Over. Goodnight, ladies. Wtf?

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2012 12:16 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

The kicker was that the pitcher was on deck and the Giants had no bench players left, but you couldn't afford to walk Belt the way Acosta was missing the plate because it would have loaded the bases. Belt was probably smart to swing at the first good thing he saw and almost won the game with it.

The Second Spitter Jul 31 2012 12:18 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Fuck I just noticed my broadcast was delayed for some reason. Thanks for the spoilers, guys! (and I mean this non-sarcastically!) [youtube:f6jqjbpg]5Qgh3WNKSRY[/youtube:f6jqjbpg]

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 05:31 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Frayed Knot wrote: Tejada's another one who's had a tough night. This is purely perception, but it feels like Tejada's defense is great _except_ when the pressure's on. or Parnell's on the mound. I swear they play the worst defense when he's pitching.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 06:30 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

The Second Spitter wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Damn. Thing. Over. Goodnight, ladies. Wtf? "The damn thing is over" was an exclamation once uttered by Bob Murphy at the end of another game the Mets won despite going to incredible lengths to give it away. "Goodnight, Ladies" is a nineteenth-century minstrel song. Not questioning the manhood of any of my masculine fellow posters or the players on the team. But I guess you read this post before learning of the ultimate result, which would have made my 2 AM nonsense even more cryptic-sounding. Sorry about that.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 06:56 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

How about the came coming down to Valdy in center twice going back to catch deep flies with his back to the wall? Lub-dub. Lub-dub.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 07:54 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Any reports on what Terry said to Acosta when he went out in the tenth? Howie said he was airing Manny out.

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 08:12 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

via Metsblog “I said, ‘Look, a year ago at this time, you were as good a pitcher as there was in this league. Relax and make some pitches. There are guys right now, they’re fighting for their lives, they’re fighting for their jobs and they all know it. The only thing you can do is take care of the business at hand and that’s try to make pitches and get hitters out. You can’t worry about tomorrow. You can’t worry about anything except the moment.’ … We’ve got to somehow get him to relax, because Manny Acosta two years in a row has been an outstanding pitcher in the second half. We need him now.”

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 08:15 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

True enough. But the "You're better than this, you've proven it, and we all know it" thing is true of all of our relievers. Yet here we are.

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 08:18 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Edgy DC wrote: True enough. But the "You're better than this, you've proven it, and we all know it" thing is true of all of our relievers. Yet here we are. Just tweeted a bunch of Bobby Parnell facts. I imagine it's true of the other relievers as well, but Parnell has been victimized a ton by the defense.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 08:20 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Parnell has been victimized by Parnell often enough as well.

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 08:29 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Edgy DC wrote: Parnell has been victimized by Parnell often enough as well. No one's perfect. Parnell's numbers are good though. Lots of ground balls, way more than anything hard hit. Lots of strikeouts, few walks. few XBHs. I really don't know what else you can ask of him, besides also playing SS.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 08:31 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

It's true. No one's perfect. I can ask him not to not fall behind. I can ask him to not walk the leadoff guy. I can ask him to take that 100-MPH heat and pitch inside on occasion.

Ceetar Jul 31 2012 08:46 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Edgy DC wrote: It's true. No one's perfect. I can ask him not to not fall behind. I can ask him to not walk the leadoff guy. I can ask him to take that 100-MPH heat and pitch inside on occasion. You can ask that all you want, but those are non-results things. (besides the walks) But he doesn't actually walk a lot of guys. 5.8% this year. MLB average is 8.5. He was at 10.1 last year. He's walked 5 of his first 48 batters. So that's actually a wee bit high, but that means he's 6/141 which is 4.3% of his other batters. Of the 50 times he's had a runner on first with less than 2 outs, he's allow 11 hits and a .597 OPS. That's clearly not what 's killing him. he's gotten 6% of double plays opportunities converted behind him, compared to an 11% league average (Mets is 8%)

Edgy MD Jul 31 2012 09:00 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

As long as they're non-results things, I won't ask, then.

Swan Swan H Jul 31 2012 11:09 AM Re: Welcome Bax - NYM @ SFG IGT 7/30/12

Tradition holds that Chad Ochoseis starts tonight's IGT, but if the game runs over four hours again I'm holding Chad personally responsible.