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IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Fman99 Aug 01 2012 06:03 AM

New month, new winning streak. I am still watching, at least, until I get all sleepy and shit. Jon Niese vs. Matt Cain are your starting pitchers. Matt Cain is neither a mat, nor a cane. Discuss amongst yourselves.

Centerfield Aug 01 2012 01:46 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

New month. Mets will be undefeated in August.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 01:50 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

At least for the next 7 or 8 hours they will be.

sharpie Aug 01 2012 02:32 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Hunter Pence should be making his debut for the Giants. He is neither a hunter nor a pence.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 02:44 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Eli has several Whitesides, Buster is a bit of a Posey, Brett's parents thought he was quite a Pill, Justin is probably Christian, Pagan's no Angel, Gregor is not nearly as Blanco as Barry Zito, and all of Hensley is Clay, not just his feet.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 01 2012 04:12 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Raise Cain's ERA! (For Dickey)

bmfc1 Aug 01 2012 07:59 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

METS: 1. Ruben Tejada (R) SS 2. Jordany Valdespin (L) CF 3. David Wright (R) 3B 4. Ike Davis (L) 1B 5. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B 6. Jason Bay (R) LF 7. Mike Baxter (L) RF 8. Josh Thole (L) C 9. Jon Niese (L) P Giants: 1. Gregor Blanco (L) CF 2. Ryan Theriot (R) 2B 3. Melky Cabrera (S) LF 4. Buster Posey (R) C 5. Hunter Pence (R) RF 6. Marco Scutaro (R) 3B 7. Brett Pill (R) 1B 8. Joaquin Arias (R) SS 9. Matt Cain (R) P

Fman99 Aug 01 2012 08:01 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I know I haven't been around in a couple of days, baby, I'm sorry, I been hanging out with this British chick. I'm back, I had enough of her synchronized diving and her beach volleyball in long pants. She's not my baby, you're my baby, Mets. Let's Go.

Fman99 Aug 01 2012 08:15 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

YEAH KABOOM THAT SHIT RUBE!

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 08:16 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Ruben razed a Cain

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 08:24 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Make this inning count. Not scoring here is the sort of thing that haunts.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 08:31 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Nice poke Tejeda!. Bay, you depress me.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 08:33 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

It's not even about the sailor's golden dream of Jason Bay getting back to his All Star productivity. We might be having a perfectly defensible season if Bay had merely stayed healthy and upped his game to the level of a not-particularly-good corner outfielder --- hit .257 with 12-15 homers.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 08:42 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Two out, two on for Pence. Heckuva greeting. Make like Bay, Hunter.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 08:44 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

And the Mets escape.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 08:48 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Great alternative to boring bunting, Niesey.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 08:50 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Don't try to do to much, Jordany.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 08:51 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I'm still trying to figure out what "the sailor's golden dream" is, or means. There's another run on the force :)

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 08:52 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I'll take that.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 08:54 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I like how Dave didn't totally bail out on that curve to his skullcap. He's over you Cain.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 08:56 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I'm still trying to figure out what "the sailor's golden dream" is, or means. Just making sure somebody's reading. But I like it, and I'm officially coining an idiomatic expression NOW.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 08:58 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Hey, we turned a DP! I'll have to check the records but we may already have turned more so far in August than in the entirety of the month of July.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 09:01 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Nothing egregious so far, but Cain has had every borderline call go his way.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 09:02 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

We're looking good tonite.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:06 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Cain looking bad. I like. Bay looking like Bay. Deeeeepressing. Jeeze, you're supposed to hit Cain well Jason. Is there no hope for you at all?

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 09:07 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Oh, dear, Bay.

Gwreck Aug 01 2012 09:08 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Don't understand 1. Why Bay is hitting 6th (instead of 8th); 2. Why Bay is in the lineup at all (instead of Hairston).

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 09:10 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Frayed Knot wrote: Nothing egregious so far, but Cain has had every borderline call go his way. And then some.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 09:10 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Oh, dear, Baxt.

Gwreck Aug 01 2012 09:11 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

We should have about 3-4 more runs than we do now.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 09:11 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

why did they do that?

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:11 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Gwreck wrote: Don't understand 1. Why Bay is hitting 6th (instead of 8th); 2. Why Bay is in the lineup at all (instead of Hairston). I think this series is his last chance before he's either platooned or benched, from what I've read. Gah! Strike em out throw em out DP.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:15 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: why did they do that? The first time with Baxter up and the element of surprise I can almost get behind the move. Almost, as in if it worked, lol. But once the surprise factor is out of the equation you don't do that again. That's silly. Nice play by Wright.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 09:16 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

A nice quick inning by Niese that puts Cain right back out there with minimal rest and as his pitch count heads for 80+ in just the 4th inning.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:18 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Is Aldersons head really that oval or is that a screen resolution issue?

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 09:20 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Tejada sez: 'I don' need no stinkin' rest'

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:22 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Rubin working on making up for that awful error on the DP last night. Three hits and its only the 4th inning.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:22 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

OMG, what a catch!

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 09:23 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Blanco says, "I don't need my steenking feet." I don't know who this guy in the role of Matt Cain is, but it would be nice to build a pad against him.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 09:23 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Damn!

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:24 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Frayed Knot wrote: Damn! Gah!

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 09:25 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Problem is, we've already passed up several chances (like in each inning) to build up a pad against this ersatz Cain guy. And we know how failure to tack on early tends to come back and bite us.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 09:25 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

God DAMN that was a catch.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:30 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: God DAMN that was a catch. Can't top Baxter cause of the situation, but that was a top five catch of the season, as far as I've witnessed during a game.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:40 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

DAVID!?? gah

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 09:41 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Oh, dear, Wright.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 09:41 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Oh, dear, Murph.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:42 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Hey, lets run ourselves out of innings. That's a plan.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 09:43 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Since Cain was having too much trouble getting NYM batters out tonight we decided to only make him retire one this inning.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:46 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Ugh. Not an awful throw by Wright, Ike shudda been able to scoop that. But ugh. An "ugh" is not quite a "gah".

Ceetar Aug 01 2012 09:47 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Geeze, that's worse than the mistake of spilling butter in the oven that I made tonight.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:49 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Ceetar wrote: Geeze, that's worse than the mistake of spilling butter in the oven that I made tonight. You made an oven? Impressive.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 09:52 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Maybe Bay needs a hitting eye dog.

Ceetar Aug 01 2012 09:56 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Zvon wrote: Ceetar wrote: Geeze, that's worse than the mistake of spilling butter in the oven that I made tonight. You made an oven? Impressive. well I made it smoke anyway.

Gwreck Aug 01 2012 09:58 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Howie dropped this one on the listeners: a trade idea of Bay to Marlins for Heath Bell and John Buck. I'd do that before blinking twice.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 10:00 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Unless it's MTV Rock & Jock Softball, hitting one off the roof of an ambulance is a home run. 2-1 Metsies.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 10:02 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Buck kinda sucks and Bell is making an awful lot of do-re-mi.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 10:08 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Much more so than not I love watching Tejeda's at bats.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:09 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Yeah, a release is more appealing. Let's not run from the Mets' mistakes by bailing the Marlins out of their mistakes.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:11 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Another chance to do some damage here.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 10:11 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Ha! Theriot sucks. Take advantage David.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:17 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

We gotta cash in on this situation. If not, they get three more shots at it to our two and probably two of theirs are going to be against [no don't say it!] our bullpen.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:18 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Wow. Wasted days and wasted nights.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 10:18 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Boy have we fucked up some scoring chances tonite

Zvon Aug 01 2012 10:18 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

GAH! Davis into the DP. Jeeze.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:21 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

So after we were already up 1-0 two pitches into the game, we've out-hit them 6-2 plus been given 4 walks and an error ... and are still only up by one.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 10:22 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Wright trying to make sure no one ever scores against the Mets.

Gwreck Aug 01 2012 10:27 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Buck kinda sucks and Bell is making an awful lot of do-re-mi. The aggregate money on that deal would cost the Mets $5 million. You'd get 1 year of Buck and 2 years of Bell. I tend to think you could get $5M worth out of those two players without too much trouble.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:30 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

It's not like anybody would put in a claim if that deal was to go down next week.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:31 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Jason Bay is up. He has some sort of stick in his hand.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:32 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Edgy DC wrote: Jason Bay is up. He has some sort of stick in his hand. Now if he could only remember what it's used for.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 10:33 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Edgy DC wrote: Jason Bay is up. He has some sort of stick in his hand. Hopefully he's taken up orchestral conducting.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:35 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I got up to wash my face I come back to bed, Jason Bay is on base!

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:36 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Let's hear it for pulling back the bunt.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:36 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Gotta take the bunt off if this dude is going to be this wild !!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 10:38 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Good job Baxxy. He did his best to screw that turn up but it turned out ok.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:38 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Well, opportunities don't get any more golden than this one.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:38 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

This is where I normally complain that umps should make that call more often ... but not here. Smart play by Baxter

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 10:39 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Unfuckingbelieveable

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:40 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Oh, wow.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 10:40 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

NO WAY!

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:40 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Way. It totally happened.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:41 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Unfrickinbelievable ... and it's the right call.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 10:42 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I'm sure the rule is what it is, but why aren't the runners on 2nd and 3rd? That's where they would be were there no interference and Thole got thrown out at first.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 10:43 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Because Thole was bad. Really, I don't know either.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 10:44 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Gah! Replay shows he was inside the line. But very close to getting back to it. Wow, I didn't know that the lane started where the rule applies. So you can start out on the grass as long as your back to the lane for the last 40 feet. So he could have technically been called out even if the ball didn't hit him? Interesting.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:47 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Swan Swan H wrote: I'm sure the rule is what it is, but why aren't the runners on 2nd and 3rd? That's where they would be were there no interference and Thole got thrown out at first. Because to remove the incentive for the offensive team to commit an intentional interference the remedy is that all runners return to their original bases.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 10:50 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Theriot still sucks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 10:50 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 01 2012 10:51 PM

Penny saving bacon? I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:51 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Tejada makes his only out of the game with the bases loaded. And Wright did the same thing earlier.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 10:54 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Byrdak in for a one-out cameo, and gone. Rauch in next, presumably to bunt.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:55 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Frayed Knot wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: I'm sure the rule is what it is, but why aren't the runners on 2nd and 3rd? That's where they would be were there no interference and Thole got thrown out at first. Because to remove the incentive for the offensive team to commit an intentional interference the remedy is that all runners return to their original bases. Think about a situation where the bases are loaded w/1 out, bottom 9, tie game. Batter hits what looks like an easy 6-4-3 DP but the runner on 1st decides to simply play free safety and "intercepts" the throw to 1st. Yeah he's already out, but without the 'runners return' rule his team wins the game. The umps, in that situation, also have the option to call the batter out when the interference is so obviously intentional - but you get the idea.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 10:57 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

7 hits + 8 walks + 1 HBP + 1 error + 4 SBs somehow = 2 runs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 10:59 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Those corners that Cain was getting from Dale Scott for the first few innings seem to have dried up and flown away. No matter.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 11:01 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Nice inning by Rauch. We need some insurance like NOW daddy! No matter who gets the ball in the 9th.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 11:02 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: I'm sure the rule is what it is, but why aren't the runners on 2nd and 3rd? That's where they would be were there no interference and Thole got thrown out at first. Because to remove the incentive for the offensive team to commit an intentional interference the remedy is that all runners return to their original bases. Think about a situation where the bases are loaded w/1 out, bottom 9, tie game. Batter hits what looks like an easy 6-4-3 DP but the runner on 1st decides to simply play free safety and "intercepts" the throw to 1st. Yeah he's already out, but without the 'runners return' rule his team wins the game. The umps, in that situation, also have the option to call the batter out when the interference is so obviously intentional - but you get the idea. If they call that a DP it's three out and no runs score anyway. It would never happen to end a game, but if it happens with none out the run from third should score whether it's intentional or not, since they didn't make a play on that runner. I'm not saying it's not the rule, just that I disagree with the reasoning behind it.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 11:02 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Hey Terry, here's a thought for your upcoming 9th inning dilemma -- why not try the guy who's given up just 3 hits and 2 walks combined over his last 8+ innings, had a .115 BAA and 0.66 WHiP during July? And here's the good part ... he's already in the game and has thrown only 10 pitches.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 11:04 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Hey look! Big-time scoring opportunity!

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 11:05 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I'm not sure if I wouldn't run for Davis and Murphy.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 11:05 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Mets have 1 hit w/RiSP tonight -- and that one didn't even get a run in.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 11:06 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

You've GOT to be kidding me.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 11:06 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Frayed Knot wrote: Hey Terry, here's a thought for your upcoming 9th inning dilemma -- why not try the guy who's given up just 3 hits and 2 walks combined over his last 8+ innings, had a .115 BAA and 0.66 WHiP during July? And here's the good part ... he's already in the game and has thrown only 10 pitches. Oh, dear, that would be lovely. And they fail to score again.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 11:06 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

GAHZOOGLES!

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 11:08 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Jason Bay has become Joe Btfsplk.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 11:09 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

If Parnell walks Posey to start I may have to turn this off.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2012 11:12 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Eleven of the last 15 Mets have reached. Two outs on Los Gigantes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 11:12 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Bobby Pee.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 11:12 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

OOO, we got a call there on Hunter. I dunno Mex, didn't look like a strike to me. But Ill take it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2012 11:14 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

[bigpurple:38t9rzzx]METS WIN THE DAMN THING[/bigpurple:38t9rzzx]

Ceetar Aug 01 2012 11:14 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Mets are 1-0 when I'm sick and have a hot toddy during the game.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 11:14 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Insurance runs are overrated.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 11:14 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Books? /Scratches head //Goes to bed

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 11:14 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

I was sure they were going to blow that one since the 3rd inning. But they somehow managed to blow their opportunities to blow it.

Zvon Aug 01 2012 11:15 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Wow, wacky,wacky game. Good job Parnell.

Swan Swan H Aug 01 2012 11:15 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Ceetar wrote: Mets are 1-0 when I'm sick and have a hot toddy during the game. Any word from your neighbors tonight? Did they get a pizza delivered?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2012 11:17 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

That game doesn't deserve a postgame handshake. It deserves a postgame shrug/embarrassed slink-away.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2012 11:18 PM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Ceetar wrote: Mets are 1-0 when I'm sick and have a hot toddy during the game. Mets are 51-54 this year when I'm pounding vodkas trying to ease the anxiety. OK that's not really true but tonight was one of those times I should have been drinking.

Ceetar Aug 02 2012 05:15 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Swan Swan H wrote: Ceetar wrote: Mets are 1-0 when I'm sick and have a hot toddy during the game. Any word from your neighbors tonight? Did they get a pizza delivered? nope, all quiet over there tonight.

Edgy MD Aug 02 2012 06:43 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Swan Swan H wrote: Eli has several Whitesides, Buster is a bit of a Posey, Brett's parents thought he was quite a Pill, Justin is probably Christian, Pagan's no Angel, Gregor is not nearly as Blanco as Barry Zito, and all of Hensley is Clay, not just his feet. This needs to be celebrated.

Swan Swan H Aug 02 2012 07:20 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 02 2012 08:02 AM

From espn.com: The Mets had 20 baserunners, partly courtesy of nine walks, a hit batter and an error. The last team to have that many baserunners and produce only two runs in a win? That would be the Padres in 2008, against the Mets no less, according to Mark Simon of ESPN Stats & Information. The indispensable UMDB reminds us that it was this beauty, which ended with Scott Schoenweis walking the bases loaded (the last intentional), and then pushing across the game-ending run on a HBP. It was the first of three straight 2-1 losses at Petco, two of which were walk-offs. The other walk-off loss ended when Pedro Feliciano surrendered a leadoff home run in the 10th to Scott Hairston. OE: Typo cleanup (in in the 10th)

Ceetar Aug 02 2012 07:22 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Swan Swan H wrote: The other walk-off loss ended when Pedro Feliciano surrendered a leadoff home run in in the 10th to Scott Hairston. Jerry! Scott Hairston DESTROYS lefties. Make a switch! on edit: Willie! Scott Hairston DESTROYS lefties. Make a switch! This might cost you your job!

Edgy MD Aug 02 2012 07:26 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Wow, what a series. That last game also featured three hit batsmen in one inning by Oliver Perez and Bazooka Joe Smith (and the Padres still didn't score!).

Ceetar Aug 02 2012 07:27 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Edgy DC wrote: Wow, what a series. That last game also featured three hit batsmen in one inning by Oliver Perez and Bazooka Joe Smith (and the Padres still didn't score!). That was Kouzmanoff's 8th HBP that year, of 15. crowding the plate.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 02 2012 08:06 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Edgy DC wrote: Because Thole was bad. Really, I don't know either. Josh Thole ain't no J.C. Martin.

Edgy MD Aug 02 2012 08:17 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Swan Swan H wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: I'm sure the rule is what it is, but why aren't the runners on 2nd and 3rd? That's where they would be were there no interference and Thole got thrown out at first. Because to remove the incentive for the offensive team to commit an intentional interference the remedy is that all runners return to their original bases. Think about a situation where the bases are loaded w/1 out, bottom 9, tie game. Batter hits what looks like an easy 6-4-3 DP but the runner on 1st decides to simply play free safety and "intercepts" the throw to 1st. Yeah he's already out, but without the 'runners return' rule his team wins the game. The umps, in that situation, also have the option to call the batter out when the interference is so obviously intentional - but you get the idea. If they call that a DP it's three out and no runs score anyway. It would never happen to end a game, but if it happens with none out the run from third should score whether it's intentional or not, since they didn't make a play on that runner. I'm not saying it's not the rule, just that I disagree with the reasoning behind it. Yeah, this scenario doesn't justify the rule. (And any runner who can advance far enough down the line to intercept a relay from second base to first but won't simply just safely touch first is insane beyond Jimmy Piersall levels and needs to be kept far away from baseball diamonds.) Calling the batter out and letting the runners accept their advance to the bases they'd have safely advanced to had the play been successfully and cleanly completed seems to make sense. The Mets followed up by making the philosophical point moot with a madly courageous double steal, but of course failed to score.

Frayed Knot Aug 02 2012 10:00 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Edgy DC wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: I'm sure the rule is what it is, but why aren't the runners on 2nd and 3rd? That's where they would be were there no interference and Thole got thrown out at first. Because to remove the incentive for the offensive team to commit an intentional interference the remedy is that all runners return to their original bases. Think about a situation where the bases are loaded w/1 out, bottom 9, tie game. Batter hits what looks like an easy 6-4-3 DP but the runner on 1st decides to simply play free safety and "intercepts" the throw to 1st. Yeah he's already out, but without the 'runners return' rule his team wins the game. The umps, in that situation, also have the option to call the batter out when the interference is so obviously intentional - but you get the idea. If they call that a DP it's three out and no runs score anyway. It would never happen to end a game, but if it happens with none out the run from third should score whether it's intentional or not, since they didn't make a play on that runner. I'm not saying it's not the rule, just that I disagree with the reasoning behind it. Yeah, this scenario doesn't justify the rule. (And any runner who can advance far enough down the line to intercept a relay from second base to first but won't simply just safely touch first is insane beyond Jimmy Piersall levels and needs to be kept far away from baseball diamonds.) Calling the batter out and letting the runners accept their advance to the bases they'd have safely advanced to had the play been successfully and cleanly completed seems to make sense. The Mets followed up by making the philosophical point moot with a madly courageous double steal, but of course failed to score. The example I made up probably doesn't justify the 'runners return' rule on its own because the umps do have the option of calling both runner and batter out, but was merely an example of how intentional interference can occasionally be used to benefit a team if such rules didn't exist. In fact the rule allowing umps to call not just the runner out but the guy behind him also only came about after someone had done just that to win a game. The story I heard involved Brave Joe Aadock who, while running from 2nd to 3rd with one out and bases loaded, simply grabbed the bouncer that his batter hit towards SS and heaved it into the OF. Sure HE was out but the DP was prevented and the run scored. Out of such antics rules are changed. Back to last night, supposing Thole didn't just merely run in a way where he was hoping to get hit but actually took the trouble to turn around and swat the throw with his hands. If he manages to swat it in the right place the runner can come around from 2nd, hence the return rule. IOW, the rule makes no distinction between purposely interfering and when a runner, while breaking a rule, just "happens" to get his by a throw accidentally/on purpose. btw, the only person this rule doesn't apply to is Reggie Jackson. I believe Tommy Lasorda has some opinions on that matter.

Edgy MD Aug 02 2012 10:25 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

If Thole did something that they advance the runners further, that's one thing. But it merely seems fair to allow the runners to remain on the base to which they were advancing uncontested (or indeed, quite possibly had reached) at the point of infraction. Justice, to my thinking, is thus served, and the universe set to rights.

metsmarathon Aug 02 2012 10:27 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

of course, it's stupid that you have to stay foul there when running to the base. if you stay within the lane the whole time, you never touch first.

Edgy MD Aug 02 2012 10:32 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Stay Foul was the title Fman's fourth LP --- the double live one.

Fman99 Aug 02 2012 11:34 AM Re: IGT Wed Aug 1 Mets @ SF

Edgy DC wrote: Stay Foul was the title Fman's fourth LP --- the double live one. Lots of hits on that one, it's the Frampton Comes Alive of cock jokes. I will also admit to using the phrase "Frampton comes alive" in the boudoir at opportune moments.