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IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

G-Fafif Aug 15 2012 02:59 PM

New leadoff hitter: Baxter-RF Tejada-SS Murphy-2B Wright-3B Davis-1B Valdespin-LF Torres-CF The Awesome Josh Thole Whose Value Should Never Be Joked About - C Dickey-P

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 04:46 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Baxter leading off..I'm stoked!

G-Fafif Aug 15 2012 04:57 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Let's hope this lineup REALLY takes Leake! What?

Zvon Aug 15 2012 05:08 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

This one means something.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2012 05:33 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

How about Valdy playing that carom perfectly but the throw coming in a half hour late? Dickey not have it tonight or what?

Zvon Aug 15 2012 05:42 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Edgy DC wrote: How about Valdy playing that carom perfectly but the throw coming in a half hour late? Dickey not have it tonight or what? He might have too much. That ball is really moving. But the Reds seem to be able to get their bat on the ball when they need to. Yea, that throw from Valde was super weak.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2012 05:51 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Yeah, Howie talking about Thole having his hands full tonight as he gets his second passed ball. He's specuating now about Shoppach's experience.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 05:54 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Edgy DC wrote: Yeah, Howie talking about Thole having his hands full tonight as he gets his second passed ball. He's specuating now about Shoppach's experience. Premature Howie, although Thole is a human passed ball.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 05:58 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

How about this bullshit about R.A.'s bracelet? I would think those strings hanging off his glove would be much more distracting than the bracelet. Thats a bunchAbull that they make him take that off. I like how when he got back in the dugout he took it and stuck it inside his hat. I bet one of his kids gave him that. If Dusty wanted to distract him just the time wasted on it was enough. But he won't effect Dickey. Just the game time.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2012 06:03 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Well, at least there won't be two perfect games today. And we break the shutout too - although not in a good way.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:03 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

TIED! But damn all these DPs lately.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:09 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Gahdooty! Well, that cudda been a 2 run blast. Nice pick off of Bruce. Another homer? PoopyGah!

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:10 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

I think the Reds strat is a good one. Swing as hard as you can and if you hit it.........

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:13 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Chuck and duck!

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2012 06:20 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

The main problem with those HRs is that three runs seems beyond the capability of our offense these days.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:30 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

I'd like to buy Thole a stout after the game.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:30 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Grab those bats and start usin em you bums!

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:37 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Is that brand new news there? The 6 man rotation? I know they were talking about different stuff like that.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:37 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Zvon wrote: Grab those bats and start usin em you bums! like that?

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:38 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Jeezusfrakinchrieees.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:39 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Pitching..4 starters, 9 or 10 man staff..Livest arm closes. It used to work!

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:39 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Zvon wrote: Jeezusfrakinchrieees. Zvon, you came back this year for this?

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:40 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Frazier is from Toms River, not Hoboken

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:41 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Ashie62 wrote: Zvon wrote: Jeezusfrakinchrieees. Zvon, you came back this year for this? Its not like they wouldn't be doing this if I wasn't here. ;)

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:44 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Hefner time

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 06:44 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Zvon wrote: Zvon wrote: Jeezusfrakinchrieees. Zvon, you came back this year for this? Its not like they wouldn't be doing this if I wasn't here. ;) GOLD

Zvon Aug 15 2012 06:50 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Ashie62 wrote: Zvon wrote: Jeezusfrakinchrieees. Zvon, you came back this year for this? Ya know when I was gone I didn't stop rooting for the Mets. And I never will. I may turn my back on them from time to time, but they are my team thru thick and thin. My number one wish would be new owners, but this might not happen any time soon. So I'll just keep rootin and wishin. It helps that I love watching baseball no matter who's playing. Just love the game.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2012 06:58 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

- Mike Leake was struggling over the last month or so ... Cured! - Jay Bruce has been in a slump ... Cured! - Scott Rolen sitting out for the last week ... Cured! The Mets have a better track record than the doctors on Gray's Anatomy

Zvon Aug 15 2012 07:00 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Frayed Knot wrote: - Mike Leake was struggling over the last month or so ... Cured! - Jay Bruce has been in a slump ... Cured! - Scott Rolen sitting out for the last week ... Cured! The Mets have a better track record than the doctors on Gray's Anatomy And their own doctors are awful.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 07:01 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Leake was cured of shoplifting.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2012 07:02 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Weird night for Dickey: Whole lotta strike-outs (10 I think) but a bunch of balls hit on the nose too.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 07:02 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

OHHHH! What a play by Wright!

Zvon Aug 15 2012 07:05 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Frayed Knot wrote: Weird night for Dickey: Whole lotta strike-outs (10 I think) but a bunch of balls hit on the nose too. I really think the Reds were just thinking : swing as hard as you can, not at where the ball is (cause it won't be there), just around it, and if you hit it it'll go places. Far places.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 07:12 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Zvon wrote: Weird night for Dickey: Whole lotta strike-outs (10 I think) but a bunch of balls hit on the nose too. I really think the Reds were just thinking : swing as hard as you can, not at where the ball is (cause it won't be there), just around it, and if you hit it it'll go places. Far places. I think Valdespin does that^ all the time, knuckler or no.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 07:21 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 15 2012 07:21 PM

And Leake is gonna pitch a complete game against us? Ugh come-on, and least knock him the fuck outta there guys. Tholes playing like hes been knuckleyezd.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2012 07:21 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Look at it this way: If we keep hitting like this we won't see Chapman the whole series.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 07:28 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Tejada might end up with a higher batting average than Wright by seasons end. Both at .321 atm.

Zvon Aug 15 2012 07:33 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Well, R.A., you ain't gonna get no Cy Young pitching like that. And if that bracelet business did upset you, pooh pooh, shame on you.

Fman99 Aug 15 2012 07:36 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Well that sucked a big sucky sucky suck.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2012 07:50 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Whoever arranged for the Mets to pitch so well, play so hard, and luck into so many wins in the first half... congrats. You got me.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 15 2012 08:21 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Whoever arranged for the Mets to pitch so well, play so hard, and luck into so many wins in the first half... congrats. You got me. You can fool Pythagoras some of the time....

Ashie62 Aug 15 2012 08:42 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Zvon wrote: Tejada might end up with a higher batting average than Wright by seasons end. Both at .321 atm. Well, remember Wright is 'not a superstar" lol

MFS62 Aug 16 2012 08:01 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Frayed Knot wrote: Look at it this way: If we keep hitting like this we won't see Chapman the whole series. That glass isn't just half full, its f'n overflowing. Good point, though. Later

Ceetar Aug 16 2012 09:41 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

batmagadanleadoff wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Whoever arranged for the Mets to pitch so well, play so hard, and luck into so many wins in the first half... congrats. You got me. You can fool Pythagoras some of the time.... If they had played to their Pythagoras record in June, things would probably be looking much better right now. I think they played 3 under it.

Vic Sage Aug 16 2012 09:57 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

When pendulums swing back, and trends revert to the mean, they don't stop at the balancing point. they blow right on by, then slink back. The fact was that we were BABIP-ing and "2-out RBI"-ing our way to more early wins than our overall production could justify or sustain. And now the trend has reversed. wow, shocker.

Ceetar Aug 16 2012 10:15 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Vic Sage wrote: When pendulums swing back, and trends revert to the mean, they don't stop at the balancing point. they blow right on by, then slink back. The fact was that we were BABIP-ing and "2-out RBI"-ing our way to more early wins than our overall production could justify or sustain. And now the trend has reversed. wow, shocker. yeah, no. That's saying that if you flip a coin 10 times and get 8 heads, you'll probably get 8 tails in the next 10 flips.

Vic Sage Aug 16 2012 10:43 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

no, that's saying that the more times you flip the coin, you more likely you'll reach it's true balancing point (50/50, in the case of a coin). If you have a run of heads, the more likely you'll have a run of tails. Now that's meaningless in projecting what the next single toss is (its always a 50/50 shot with a balanced coin), but over the long run, "reversion to the mean" isn't an opinion. It's mathematical reality. of course the Mets don't have a 50/50 balancing point. Their balancing point is only knowable retroactively. But Pythagoras does give us some objective guideposts along the way to see where we are and allows us to estimate if a correction or reversion (or "adjustment" as you like to say) is likely.

Ceetar Aug 16 2012 10:47 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

If you have a run of heads, the more likely you'll have a run of tails no. If you flip a coin and get 10 heads in a row, the most probable result for 100 flips is 55 heads.

metsmarathon Aug 16 2012 11:16 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Ceetar wrote: If you have a run of heads, the more likely you'll have a run of tails no. If you flip a coin and get 10 heads in a row, the most probable result for 100 flips is 55 heads. yup.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 16 2012 11:30 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

metsmarathon wrote: Ceetar wrote: If you have a run of heads, the more likely you'll have a run of tails no. If you flip a coin and get 10 heads in a row, the most probable result for 100 flips is 55 heads. yup. So? That doesn't contradict Vic's post. It's still trending towards a reversion to the mean. After 10 flips you had a 100% outcome for heads. After 100 flips, it's down to 55%. Keep on projecting and you'll get closer and closer to 50% with every single projected marginal flip.

Edgy MD Aug 16 2012 11:41 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

If you're flipping a coin.

Mets – Willets Point Aug 16 2012 11:46 AM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

Should've traded Dickey while he was at his apogee.

metsmarathon Aug 16 2012 01:09 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

batmagadanleadoff wrote: metsmarathon wrote: Ceetar wrote: If you have a run of heads, the more likely you'll have a run of tails no. If you flip a coin and get 10 heads in a row, the most probable result for 100 flips is 55 heads. yup. So? That doesn't contradict Vic's post. It's still trending towards a reversion to the mean. After 10 flips you had a 100% outcome for heads. After 100 flips, it's down to 55%. Keep on projecting and you'll get closer and closer to 50% with every single projected marginal flip. well a possible point, other than striving for accurate information regarding probability and chance, is that the mets weren't exactly due for a string of ten tails after the first half of their season came out mostly heads. they were due for a sting of 50/50 splits. now, they're getting all tails. hell, they flip a coin into the air, and two coins land, both tails. so maybe they're due for this bad spell to regress to the mean as well. sure, they weren't as good as they played in the first half, but they sure as hell can't be as bad as they are now. can they...? well... i hope not.

Frayed Knot Aug 16 2012 03:13 PM Re: IGT 8/15/2012 NYM @ CIN: We'll Always Have Dickey

The 2nd half slide is a lot simpler to explain than pythagorean shifts (that 'gap' had self-corrected prior to the tumble) or reversions to the mean involving 2-out hits or whatever. Pre-ASB: RS = 4.58/G; RA (ERA) = 3.97 Post-ASB: RS = 3.64/G; RA = 5.10 Basically Wright stopped being an MVP candidate, Nieuwenhuis & Duda stopped hitting (and eventually stopped playing), Tejada missed a month and Ike has never really started hitting. On the other side, Johan went from good to awful (with a stop at unavailable), Dickey slid from fantastic to merely very good, and Gee stepped out of the picture altogether. And virtually nobody, save for Rauch and maybe Muffy, has had a better 2nd half than 1st