Aug 14 2012 01:52 PM
Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach
check out Kelly's pet hedgehog, Oliver Rainbow Sparkles. 
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Welcome Kelly Shoppach
| bmfc1 Aug 14 2012 12:19 PM Edited 5 time(s), most recently on Aug 14 2012 01:33 PM |
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Mets acquire Kelly Shoppach for a player to be named later.
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| Ashie62 Aug 14 2012 12:21 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Thole has company.
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| Vic Sage Aug 14 2012 12:27 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 14 2012 12:44 PM |
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while he's certainly better than any RHed C we currently have on the 40-man roster, and probably better than any others in the system too, i'm confused as to why you'd pick up a 32-year old part-time catcher like this in August of a lost season? He's the kind of player you pick up if your in a pennant race and have a need. Is he signed for next year, too? [on edit: no, he's not]
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| G-Fafif Aug 14 2012 12:32 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Acquired for a player to be named later. Even better would be acquired for a player to be named Thole. But this is nice, too.
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| metirish Aug 14 2012 12:34 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Kelly fucking Shoppach, he was supposed to be a big star, or am I conflating him with Saltalamacchia?
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| bmfc1 Aug 14 2012 12:39 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Excellent!
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| Edgy MD Aug 14 2012 12:41 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Woulda been nice six weeks ago, but welcome.
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| Swan Swan H Aug 14 2012 12:42 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I think you're conflating him with Johnny Bench. He's better than what the Mets have in the RH platoon, and it's a low-cost look. It's not like he's holding anybody back.
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| G-Fafif Aug 14 2012 12:47 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Kelly Shopworn?
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| Ceetar Aug 14 2012 12:49 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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He's not there by default, just by not being Kelly Stinnett? (who was a perfect 4/4 in Stolen Bases as a Met)
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| metsguyinmichigan Aug 14 2012 12:50 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I suppose there is not chance the player to be named later is Bay.
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| G-Fafif Aug 14 2012 12:55 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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So you're implying Bay is technically still a player?
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| bmfc1 Aug 14 2012 01:06 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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At bat music:
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| Edgy MD Aug 14 2012 01:28 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Slugs large against lefties, and is Nickeasesque against righties. I wouldn't be surprised if they want to test drive him in 2012 for potential usage in 2013.
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| sharpie Aug 14 2012 01:32 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Picked up his first 2 triples and his first steal (first attempt) this season so he seems to be getting faster.
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| Edgy MD Aug 14 2012 01:40 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Blue Jays moving to acquire Yorvit Torrealba. Cue festival of buyer's remorse.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 14 2012 01:44 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly...K-E-L-L-Y ... Why?
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| Frayed Knot Aug 14 2012 01:45 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 14 2012 01:58 PM |
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The timing does seem a bit odd. But whatthehell.
Shoppach was, in his day, considered a good prospect but, as we all know, that's only occasionally a sign of future stardom. I suppose you'd have to consider his career as somewhat disappointing particularly since he seemed to peak at age 28 before taking a pretty big dive after that. But, despite the low BA, he takes his share of walks (career walk rate = 0.89) and slugs often enough (19 of his 35 hits this season for XBs) to make the occasional difference. Haven't kept up on how he's considered defensively these days
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 14 2012 01:49 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I think maybe we'll find out Rob Johnson hurt himself or something, that might explain the timing.
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| Ceetar Aug 14 2012 01:50 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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more likely, he's Rob Johnson.
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| Ceetar Aug 14 2012 01:52 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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check out Kelly's pet hedgehog, Oliver Rainbow Sparkles.
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| Frayed Knot Aug 14 2012 01:56 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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And just think how quickly Johnson would have been run out of here if he [u:1i425s7c]hadn't[/u:1i425s7c] gotten that dropped 3rd-strike to Ike just in time.
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| G-Fafif Aug 14 2012 02:12 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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| metirish Aug 14 2012 03:34 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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This is funny
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| MFS62 Aug 14 2012 09:41 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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There have been rumors for years that the Mets wanted to get him.
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| RealityChuck Aug 15 2012 06:38 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Thole has his weaknesses, but who does the team have that's any better?
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2012 07:54 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Now? Well, it's got Kelly Shoppach.
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| Swan Swan H Aug 15 2012 11:48 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Shoppach will be the latest in a long and mostly undistinguished line to don #6, per Rubin on his twitterphone.
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| Edgy MD Aug 15 2012 11:51 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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You just hurt Mike Marshall's feelings!
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 15 2012 11:53 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 15 2012 11:53 AM |
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28 posts about Kelly Shoppach in less than 24 hours - a record setting number in the category of posts to talent ratio.
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| Mets – Willets Point Aug 15 2012 11:53 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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They really liked Bay in Boston for some reason I could never figure out.
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 15 2012 11:55 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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"Fuck Mike Marshall"
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2012 11:56 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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40th Met to wear No. 6 (most popular joisey evah)
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| seawolf17 Aug 15 2012 11:59 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I'm pretty sure a search here for "Jason Bay" would definitely blow that record out of the water.
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| Swan Swan H Aug 15 2012 12:05 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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And so would "Jose Lima," although the total would be considerably less if the search were "Jose Lima -wife"
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| Mets – Willets Point Aug 15 2012 12:09 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Or just this gif 
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| Edgy MD Aug 15 2012 12:09 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Unfortunately, the "Welcome Jose Lima" thread became merged with the "Welcome to Ms. Lima" sentiments by the second post, thanks to, um, me.
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| Edgy MD Aug 15 2012 12:17 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Holy crap! That thread has Rotblatt's now-classic explication of the WHOMP statistic. Great job, archivists!
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| Nymr83 Aug 15 2012 12:23 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I think it was because he actually hit the ball when he was there.
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| G-Fafif Aug 15 2012 01:04 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Someday the Mets' array of backup catchers (Thole perhaps among them) can back up Cam Maron, profiled today by Adam Rubin.
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| Vic Sage Aug 16 2012 01:35 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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PTBNL = Pedro Beato.
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| smg58 Aug 16 2012 01:43 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Me no likee either.
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| Ceetar Aug 16 2012 01:46 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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so basically we traded him for a 40 man roster spot next year.
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| seawolf17 Aug 16 2012 02:21 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Which we would have had when we dumped Shoppach and his six weeks of batting .180 anyway.
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| Edgy MD Aug 16 2012 02:27 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Hey now, don't quit on Kelly!
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| Frayed Knot Aug 16 2012 02:28 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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It all makes the timing of this trade even tougher to understand.
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| Swan Swan H Aug 16 2012 02:36 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Let's see if they have Shoppach catch Dickey for the rest of his starts. That is an audition that is worth something, if not necessarily Beato.
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| Ceetar Aug 16 2012 02:38 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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not really. They get 6 weeks of up close and personal evaluation of a guy they had on their radar for next year anyway. And get him to get his feet wet with the pitchers he'd catch. All for a guy they were going to DFA. Which clears up a 40 man roster spot that was being used by a minor leaguer (Shoppach is going to take Nickeas' or Johnson's)
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| Edgy MD Aug 16 2012 02:40 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Wait... we knew Beato was being DFA'd?
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| Gwreck Aug 16 2012 02:49 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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You don't give away prospects (however loosely that term may apply to Beato) for EVALUATION time for a platoon/backup catcher. Seriously?
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| Frayed Knot Aug 16 2012 02:51 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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What Edgy said + what GWreck said.
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| Ceetar Aug 16 2012 02:51 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I think that can be assumed by him being named. Not whether or not he was ever going to be useful, but the Mets only gave him 4 innings, and need relievers that can get the job done/strike guys out. So he clearly wasn't impressing them, and despite Alderson suggesting they haven't started thinking about the 2013 budget yet, they know they'll need roster spots and if they decided Beato was the 40th man and were going to DFA him to get him off the roster anyway.. I think this makes more sense than Alderson was playing dice games with the Red Sox and lost?
You do if he's not a prospect and simply a AAAA reliever that you don't believe is going to work out. I mean, the Mets DFAd Fernando Martinez and Josh Satin this year. Those guys may be higher 'prospects' than Beato.
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| Edgy MD Aug 16 2012 03:09 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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So you mean DFA'd in December or something. OK, I guess. But I see seven or eight free agents and three or so guys to (more or less safely) slide off the roster before him.
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| bmfc1 Aug 19 2012 09:27 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Martino has more on Shoppach today with regard to BV:
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 19 2012 12:19 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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It would be hilarious if Shoppach re-upped, Terry and Bobby Vgot the axe, and the Mets brought on Bobby V at their helm.
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| metsguyinmichigan Aug 19 2012 12:30 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Speaking of F-Mart, has he spent any time in Houston?
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| Edgy MD Aug 19 2012 12:36 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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"That message came from Gonzalez's phone, but those weren't his words. Or even his feelings. He really didn't know what the message said. And if the message looks bad, well, he had nothing to do with it. The primary guy was, um, the guy who isn't here anymore."
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| bmfc1 Aug 19 2012 12:40 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Agreed, Edgy. Gonzalez let Shoppach use his phone? Shoppach knows enough about mobile phones that he was tweeting pix from the Smithsonian yesterday--he would have used his own. Someone there is using the guy that left as a scapegoat.
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| Frayed Knot Aug 19 2012 01:22 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I think Congressman Weiner was using a similar denial ... at least for a while.
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| Edgy MD Aug 19 2012 08:49 PM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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I was thinking of the Reagan Administration during Iran-Contra. "Who's dead? Casey's dead? Well, then, this was all his idea."
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| MFS62 Aug 20 2012 08:38 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Recently recalled again.: http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/arti ... u&c_id=hou The report didn't mention whether he injured himself when he went back to second base. Later
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| Ashie62 Aug 20 2012 11:45 AM Re: Welcome Kelly Shoppach |
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Who's the backup? Shoppach or Thole?
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