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IGT 8/24 Astros - Lyles vs Niese - What the car said...

The Second Spitter
Aug 24 2012 03:12 AM

Fair comment is not a defense for damage with malicious intent in NSW!

(Apologies for the in-joke)

Ashie62
Aug 24 2012 11:21 AM
Re: IGT 8/24 Astros - Lyles vs Niese - What the car said...

This should be a hoot...Lyon 2-10

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 24 2012 11:28 AM
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He's gotta be thinking that today he has a good shot at 3 and 10.

G-Fafif
Aug 24 2012 01:19 PM
Re: IGT 8/24 Astros - Lyles vs Niese - What the car said...

What didn't work yesterday is transformed into something else today.

Tejada SS
Baxter RF
Wright 3B
Davis 1B
Turner 2B
Valdespin LF
Torres CF
Thole C
Niese P

bmfc1
Aug 24 2012 01:35 PM
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Valdespin is a 2B, if anything. He doesn't have the baseball instincts to play OF. He screwed up in LF on Wednesday (it may have been Tuesday, when he overran the bloop single), CF yesterday, let's see what happens tonight.

Edgy MD
Aug 24 2012 01:43 PM
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Takes a lot of baseball instincts to play 2b, also.

bmfc1
Aug 24 2012 02:07 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Takes a lot of baseball instincts to play 2b, also.
Obviously, but he's shown none for the OF so put him back in the IF where he played in the minors. If Murphy can become almost a mediocre 2B, then so can JV.

G-Fafif
Aug 24 2012 02:12 PM
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I can live with Valdespin at any of his top three positions, but I wish they would pick one and let him get comfortable there for a week or more. He's not hopeless in the outfield, I don't believe, but he's not gonna get any better being jerked around. And he might get better at 2B if given some time there if they're having fourth or fifth thoughts about Murphy.

Edgy MD
Aug 24 2012 02:20 PM
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Well, I'd say outfield is more about athleticism and less about sport-specific skills. It's just that his experience there is limited. I'd guess he has more of a future there, to the extent that he has a particular future at any position.

I think he's done a lot more damage-per-inning in the infield historically, but we haven't seen it.

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2012 02:55 PM
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1) I don't think we know that Valdespin is more natural or mistake-free in the IF than in the OF
2) we actually have some living, breathing, and occasionally functioning IFers currently on the roster

IOW, he may not be ideal out there but right now he is more needed there. Plus it's not like the W/L record is going to be all that altered (or that it'll be all that important even if it is), or that his development is going to be all that retarded by stashing him out there for the time being.

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 03:15 PM
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Who-stons lineup:

Altuve 2B
Gonzalez 3B
Wallace 1B
Francisco LF
Pearce RF
Greene SS
Snyder C
Barnes CF
Lyles P

The third baseman's first name is Marwin, which is proof that when you compromise, nobody wins.

Ashie62
Aug 24 2012 03:16 PM
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I want 3 slugging OF's, ok?

bmfc1
Aug 24 2012 03:27 PM
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I'd like to see JV play everyday at 2B because I don't see anyplace else that's suitable for him. Second choice is one place, everyday.

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2012 03:38 PM
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I think that in this case you are ...
- being too quick on the trigger to decide that he's an asset at 2B but can not be a good OF. Details and evidence are limited in either case.
- over-blowing the idea that bouncing around in different positions is bad for him. Plus, let's face it, a handful of big PHs aside, it's not like his offense [.245 BA - .281 OBA] has done all that much to warrant an everyday position all his own. He's young, he'll adjust.

bmfc1
Aug 24 2012 03:42 PM
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FK: Please don't say "you are" because I don't think I am either of those and just because you think "I am" doesn't make it so. You could have said "I think you are".

Your points are valid, and I appreciate your considered opinion because it's usually intelligent and thoughtful. Please at least try to give mine the same deference.

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2012 03:48 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I think that in this case you are ....

bmfc1
Aug 24 2012 03:49 PM
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I think I appreciate the gesture!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 24 2012 04:21 PM
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Aside from overrunning that one ball the other night-- unless I'm misremembering-- Valdy's actually covered LF quite credibly, no?

(OE: In an EXTREMELY small sample size-- so much so as to render the number not-so-credible-- Fangraphs disagrees; he's actually been a net asset in center, as per UZR... and a massive liability at both the corner OF spots AND SS.)

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 05:22 PM
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Juan Neise surrenders nada in the premiero inningo of El Noches Merengue.

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 05:23 PM
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Miguel Baxtero grounds out to Tyler Verde.

And David Wright with the old El Whiffo.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 05:25 PM
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Los Mets unis. Kool!

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 05:31 PM
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That video session stuff looks very boring. He sits there all alone like that?

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 05:33 PM
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Zvon wrote:
That video session stuff looks very boring. He sits there all alone like that?


That was just for the SNY crew. Once they left he put on 'Steel Magnolias.'

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 05:35 PM
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Barnes at 2nd after the ribby double: "LETS GO!" as he twirls his fingers.

If Im pitchin, straight in the buttocks next time up. If he ends up scoring, right in the middle of the back.

K, so its gonna be the back.

Ashie62
Aug 24 2012 05:53 PM
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I dont think I give a shit anymore if Sugarpants comes back.

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 05:55 PM
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Flushing, NY (AP) - Continuing a recently disturbing trend, another rally was mercilessly killed by Mets players this evening. According to witnesses, the Mets had runners on first and third with none out when the next two batters grounded into a fielder's choice and a double play.

"I've see this sort of thing before," said F. Mann, a visitor from upstate NY. "Between the junkyards across the street and this mess, property values around here are goin' straight in the crapper, if you catch my drift." Authorities have promised action before, yet the senseless killing continues.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 24 2012 05:56 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Flushing, NY (AP) - Continuing a recently disturbing trend, another rally was mercilessly killed by Mets players this evening. According to witnesses, the Mets had runners on first and third with none out, when the next two batters grounded into a fielder's choice and a double play.

"I've see this sort of thing before," said F. Mann, a visitor from upstate NY. "Between the junkyards across the street and this mess, property values around here are goin' straight in the crapper, if you catch my drift." Authorities have promised action before, yet the senseless killing continues.


Bullet of cool.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 05:57 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Swan Swan H wrote:
Flushing, NY (AP) - Continuing a recently disturbing trend, another rally was mercilessly killed by Mets players this evening. According to witnesses, the Mets had runners on first and third with none out, when the next two batters grounded into a fielder's choice and a double play.

"I've see this sort of thing before," said F. Mann, a visitor from upstate NY. "Between the junkyards across the street and this mess, property values around here are goin' straight in the crapper, if you catch my drift." Authorities have promised action before, yet the senseless killing continues.


Bullet of cool.

Ha. Agreed.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 06:01 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
I dont think I give a shit anymore if Sugarpants comes back.


After David hits his 200th I'm not sure if there will be anything to watch for. I guess R.A.'s run for 20 wins, which, it seems now, the way the team is playing, is another big mountain for him to climb.

Ashie62
Aug 24 2012 06:04 PM
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with the nice start I thought the Mets could sign Wright in the off season.

Then disaster struck all around.

Go R.A.!

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 06:10 PM
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Oh, and there is the [u:1h3jv7b3]team batting race[/u:1h3jv7b3]:
Tejada: .306
Wright: .317


[u:1h3jv7b3]Doubles:[/u:1h3jv7b3]
Wright:36
Murphy:33

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 06:13 PM
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Zvon
Aug 24 2012 06:15 PM
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Wow, actually hit the foul pole. They will review but no way thats called back. GRATZ WRIGHT!

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 24 2012 06:15 PM
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Ashie62
Aug 24 2012 06:22 PM
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YEAH!

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 06:37 PM
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I really like the blue jerseys. I'm glad they are gonna be a regular thing next year. But then again, at one point I thought the Mets should go with orange jerseys, and I drew this around 30 years ago. So........

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 06:51 PM
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SHIT. Well, he had to try for two there. Nice and fortunate play by that outfielder.

Fman99
Aug 24 2012 07:00 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Flushing, NY (AP) - Continuing a recently disturbing trend, another rally was mercilessly killed by Mets players this evening. According to witnesses, the Mets had runners on first and third with none out when the next two batters grounded into a fielder's choice and a double play.

"I've see this sort of thing before," said F. Mann, a visitor from upstate NY. "Between the junkyards across the street and this mess, property values around here are goin' straight in the crapper, if you catch my drift." Authorities have promised action before, yet the senseless killing continues.


I appreciate that even the fictionalized version of me managed to work an anal sex joke into the mix. Well played, Mr. Mann!

Fman99
Aug 24 2012 07:07 PM
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Zvon wrote:


Sharp!

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2012 07:09 PM
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Let's see now ...
- we're into a battle of the bullpens
- we don't hit other teams' pens
- other teams hit the crap out of ours
- we need more than two runs if we're going to win this game
- we haven't snagged more than two runs in a full game in nearly a week

IOW, it ain't lookin' good.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 07:10 PM
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Great play there by Tejada.

Thnx Fman. Just threw a 200 on top of a kaboom, but that did come out kool.

Three hits. We have 3 total hits in the 7th. Gaaaaaaaah!

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 07:14 PM
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4 hits. YAY!

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 07:19 PM
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Zvon wrote:
4 hits. YAY!


Terry said they were leaving too many runners on base, so they corrected that by not getting anybody on base.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 07:27 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Zvon wrote:
4 hits. YAY!


Terry said they were leaving too many runners on base, so they corrected that by not getting anybody on base.


FIRE HIM!




I kid. I'd fire Sandy first.

Fman99
Aug 24 2012 07:44 PM
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Darn.

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 07:46 PM
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Every freakin' game looks the same. This is like a Hanna-Barbera cartoon where the same house-rock-tree keep passing in the background.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 07:50 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Every freakin' game looks the same. This is like a Hanna-Barbera cartoon where the same house-rock-tree keep passing in the background.


lol. I remember the cheaper, older Batman cartoons where they drove down the street in the Batmobile and the backround was always the same block or two, over and over and over. That bothered me.

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 07:54 PM
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Decent appearance by Acosta. That hook he threw to the last batter (I have no idea who it was) was pretty nasty.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 07:59 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Decent appearance by Acosta. That hook he threw to the last batter (I have no idea who it was) was pretty nasty.


Credit where credits due, I guess. But I don't think there is one guy in that bullpen that could do anything to balance out the damage done. They are responsible for 25 losses. 25! I have a hard time saying anything good about any of them even when they do good, and that is a real shame.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 24 2012 07:59 PM
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Come. Fucking. On. With. The. Fishing. Ike.

bmfc1
Aug 24 2012 08:00 PM
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That was an awful AB by Ike. He needed to get on, down 2 runs, and he swung at everything.

Swan Swan H
Aug 24 2012 08:02 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Swan Swan H wrote:
Decent appearance by Acosta. That hook he threw to the last batter (I have no idea who it was) was pretty nasty.


Credit where credits due, I guess. But I don't think there is one guy in that bullpen that could do anything to balance out the damage done. They are responsible for 25 losses. 25! I have a hard time saying anything good about any of them even when they do good, and that is a real shame.


Yeah, I'm grasping for anything positive here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 24 2012 08:04 PM
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We're fans of Groundhog Day, basically.

Zvon
Aug 24 2012 08:08 PM
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Looking for the right image.

Would anyone be offended if I posted an image of a big stinking steaming pile of shit?

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2012 08:11 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
That was an awful AB by Ike.


He's had about 400 of those this year.

themetfairy
Aug 24 2012 08:11 PM
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That's less offensive than the pile of shit that the team has been leaving on the field lately.

Mr. Met Puppet Guy
Aug 24 2012 08:15 PM
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Well, that was deflating, Mr. Met. What say we get some Carvel on the way home?

Huh? You like that, don't you?

Fman99
Aug 24 2012 08:22 PM
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Mr. Met Puppet Guy wrote:
Well, that was disappointing, Mr. Met. What say we get some Carvel on the way home?

Huh? You like that, don't you?


Wow, I almost missed this. Here, Mr. Met Puppet Guy, here's the pic again for you to make a thumbnail.

Fman99
Aug 24 2012 08:23 PM
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Mr. Met Puppet Guy wrote:
Well, that was deflating, Mr. Met. What say we get some Carvel on the way home?

Huh? You like that, don't you?


That is fan-fuckin-tastic.

Mr. Met Puppet Guy
Aug 24 2012 08:42 PM
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Thanks, Fman! Mr. Met looked really crappy in my original Avatar, didn't you, Mister?

Huh? WHAT?!

This is, um, really embarrassing... Mr. Met saw you behind us yesterday. He said he thought you were kind of a weirdo.

Fman99
Aug 24 2012 08:58 PM
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Yeah, you gave him a nine inning prostate exam, and I'm the weirdo. WHATEVS.

Ashie62
Aug 25 2012 02:19 AM
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In the Round Robin of suck

Colorado 4-0
Astros 1-0
Mets 0-5

Frayed Knot
Aug 25 2012 05:47 AM
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"Offensive" review from last night:
4 hits -- 3 singles and a HR. But one of the singles was turned into an out
3 walks plus a HBP
6 fly-outs

and then there were the 17 ABs that failed to get the ball out of the infield: 5 Ks; 12 GOs for 13 outs (1 GiDP); plus 2 "line-outs" although I think even that is a rather generous term for a ball that just happened to be caught in the air by an infielder, certainly there was nothing hard-hit about either of them.

The wet-newspaper syndrome continues

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 25 2012 08:29 AM
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{Nice accomplishment by individual Met player} as Mets fall to {name of opposing team}.

Fill in Wright hits 200th career home run and Astros.