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Francesa Erupts
bmfc1 Aug 23 2012 04:11 PM |
Is there anything in here that's wrong? I hope that this was playing the front office.
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seawolf17 Aug 23 2012 04:33 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
This is GOLD.
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2012 05:19 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I'm starting to tire of all of the current griping about the Mets. Especially when it comes from some asshole like Francesca. The team's rebuilding; it's essentially in teardown mode. They're gonna suck for a while and there's no way around it. It's probably best to accept the status quo, suck it up and endure it. This was a long time coming. The FO was never willing to rebuild before, always believing that some past his sell date former star - a Mo Vaughn here or a Tom Glavine there - was enough to take the Mets over that last hump and to the promised land, all the while masking the barren foundation that the Mets were built on. The longer this rebuild was delayed, the more damage and rot there would be to fix. The day of reckoning has finally arrived and it makes no difference whether it was born from level-headed thinking or a financial crisis that threatened to strip the Wilpons of their team. The rebuild is here, and the team ain't gonna get fixed in half a season, watered down wild card or no watered down wild card. Of course, management has to market the team and sell seats, so they're gonna make unrealistic statements about the state of the franchise. We, the hard-core, should know better and shouldn't waste our time parsing Alderson's MetSpeak, looking for absurd guarantees that hint at near-future meaningful games in the late season. There's nothing wrong with hoping for the Mets to exceed expectations, but this griping when the team plays exactly as the so called expert expect them to play is wearing thin.
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metirish Aug 23 2012 05:36 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Who the fuck is he screaming at?
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MFS62 Aug 23 2012 06:21 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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It isn't screaming. The gas bag opened up and let the hot air out. He must have enjoyed the shit out of doing that. Later
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G-Fafif Aug 23 2012 06:23 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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This is incisive analysis in the broad context of where this franchise stands, but after sitting through three of these four games, I'm utterly down with Screaming MF on this one. He's especially right about Collins and his BS about we tried, we were close. The last TC presser I sat in on, during the Marlin series, included "we're only losing by a little," which to me was an alarm bell rung by a desperate manager who has no idea what else to do or say.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 23 2012 08:04 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
The problem is that he's whipping the dumbest of fans into demanding they go out and buy more Jason Bays. I'm also at a loss as to what will happen, and I guess I was hoping they'd rebuild more radically by now, but that they suck shouldn't be a surprise at this stage I suppose.
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Kong76 Aug 23 2012 08:40 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I heard that this afternoon, thought he was going to have
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Ashie62 Aug 23 2012 08:47 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Playoffs! you're talking to me about Playoffs!!!!
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Ceetar Aug 23 2012 10:05 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
This a day after he claimed he wasn't going to talk about the Mets anymore.
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Edgy MD Aug 24 2012 07:00 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
The thing about Terry is that he's out of ideas. It happens to every manager at some point, but some are protected by the talent their GM gives them --- Joe Torre, Ron Washington.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 24 2012 07:07 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I hope next year to see a new manager, a new catcher, a new second baseman, three new outfielders and what the hell, a new coaching staff.
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Edgy MD Aug 24 2012 07:08 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
That's a big start.
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bmfc1 Aug 24 2012 08:01 AM Re: Francesa Erupts Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2012 08:34 AM |
Who would have expected Francesa to speak more truth about the Mets than Marty Noble--Noble comes across as so far up Fred Wilpon's ass that he could perform a colonoscopy:
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 24 2012 08:29 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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If I knew you were gonna respond, I'da written Gl@v!ne instead of Glavine. Collins isn't part of the solution, I agree. But in all fairness, a three headed triumvirate of John McGraw, Gil Hodges and Davey Johnson couldn't squeeze out a meaningful number of extra wins. I wonder who'd win the fight for the Rolaids tablets, though?
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Edgy MD Aug 24 2012 08:30 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I'm going to go with the three-headed guy.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2012 10:26 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Just listened to the whole thing for the first time...
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Vic Sage Aug 24 2012 11:03 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
my problem with Fatscessa's rant isn't that its not factual or accurate -- it basically is, as far as that goes -- it's that it's not TRUTHFUL.
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Ashie62 Aug 24 2012 11:20 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Fatessa may be a big mouthed jackass....
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Edgy MD Aug 24 2012 11:23 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Frayed Knot Aug 24 2012 11:30 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
The other problem is he somehow feels the need to create a bunch of strawman arguments (as if there weren't enough ACTUAL ones) that he can then easily knock down.
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Edgy MD Aug 24 2012 11:34 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Listen, folks. It's my fault. I've been selling McHugh as Marichal for two years now.
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smg58 Aug 24 2012 12:36 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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I was hopeful for .500. Am I disappointed? Yes. Am I surprised? No. One thing that I think gets lost in this is that as horribly as the team has played for the last month, they're still within a game of two division rivals who came into the season with infinitely higher expectations. Yeah, a lot of people (certainly myself included) got their hopes up when the team started well. It didn't work out, oh well. But if they can pull themselves together enough to finish ahead of one or both of the Phillies and Marlins, that would still be something for me.
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Zvon Aug 24 2012 03:40 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Youch!
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Fman99 Aug 24 2012 03:49 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Forty five seconds. Had to stop. If I wanted to listen to a big douchy blowhard yelling his fool head off I'd just go to YSIII and throw a dart.
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Ashie62 Aug 24 2012 05:56 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Fman....your kid needs a screenname
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themetfairy Aug 24 2012 06:22 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
For the record, Fman's son is the sweetest boy you'd ever want to know. Engaging and polite.
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Ashie62 Aug 24 2012 06:30 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
kissup lol
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Fman99 Aug 24 2012 07:05 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Thanks friend! Fboy and I both enjoyed your company and conversation, as we do every summer at Citi Field :)
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 25 2012 07:59 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Bad ass!
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metirish Sep 13 2012 06:49 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Francesa erupts........................now falls asleep.......hilarious
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Swan Swan H Sep 13 2012 09:02 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Jeez, that's funny. The Ralph Kramden bugeyes when he snaps back to life are the topper.
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G-Fafif Sep 13 2012 01:23 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Stop talkin' about dis nonsense. Mike was restin' his eyes.
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MFS62 Sep 13 2012 01:31 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
What a coincidence!
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metirish Sep 13 2012 01:51 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
@sportswatch(Neil Best) Caller made a "narcolepsy" crack to Francesa, who took issue. "Why don't you add up the hours [I've been on the air], you jerk," he said.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 13 2012 04:31 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
With that sense of humor on him, it's got to be a nonstop, breezy, carnival ride being married to this guy.
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Edgy MD Sep 13 2012 07:17 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I think it would be nice if everybody would make references.
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Frayed Knot Sep 14 2012 07:22 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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I suspect MF was voted least likely to be able to make fun of himself in HS. The stupid thing is, one quick self-effacing line and this story is essentially over before it starts but he can't do that. He'd much rather deny the undeniable and pretend the whole thing never happened. Plus, as I mentioned in the other thread where this was discussed, his first reaction upon snapping out of it seems to be to get on the intercom and blame the behind the glass guys for allowing it to happen. Couldn't be his fault. It's like when callers start out by asking Mike not to cut them off too quickly and he hides behind the defense that he never cuts folks off because Mad Dog worked the controls when they were together or the producers take care of it during his solo gigs. Except that story quickly fell apart once the YES simulcasts started because they clearly showed Francesa making the hand-gesture each time as a signal for the guy to be cut-off. So I guess technically he's right, HE never presses the 'drop' button that ends caller's points in mid-sentence so he sticks with the story that it's not him. Now, at least parts of the national sports media have picked up on the sleeping story and are making jokes about it.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 14 2012 07:32 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I like that he tried to explain away the sleeping thing in the context of all the awards he's been nominated for.
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Edgy MD Sep 14 2012 07:40 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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irish posted the story from the Telegraph. That's inter-national non-sports media making a fool of him. Sucker.
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G-Fafif Sep 14 2012 12:53 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
The other night, when some graphic wasn't up on SNY fast enough to suit Keith's taste, he said "someone must be sleeping in the truck," to which Gary added, "there's a lot of that going around."
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metirish Sep 18 2012 04:41 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Caught a few minutes of Francesca on the drive home today, he was incredulous about the Mets rescheduling the rainout for Thursday.
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Edgy MD Sep 18 2012 06:41 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Callers more or less have been yanking his chain like this. Poor jerk.
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seawolf17 Sep 18 2012 07:25 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Does have excellent fashion sense, though.
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metirish Sep 18 2012 07:44 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
He's looking more and more like Paulie Walnuts these days,.
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Frayed Knot Sep 18 2012 08:10 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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So I guess the Mets should have checked with the Yanx and Giants before making their schedule then? -- Oh wait, but teams don't make their own schedule! Well then maybe they should have scheduled the rain-out as a Wednesday DH? -- Oh wait, but the Yanx were also rained out and are scheduled for a Wednesday DH so that wouldn't have been any good either. Besides, what the point of avoiding a poor attendance day on Thursday only to go with a DH instead and lose an entire game's attendance! What exactly did he want them to do in this case? Besides like not play the game at all I guess. This is almost as good as the time he was scolding MLB for having over-lapping playoff games in the 1st round -- "You wouldn't see the NFL doing something this stupid!!" Gee, the NFL has a total of 11 playoff games (vs up to 41 for MLB) which it spreads out over a 5 week span (vs 3 weeks in baseball) and yet somehow the NFL manages to slot those games so where none overlap! Man they must be fuckin' geniuses over there! And, btw, how many people do you suppose would be killed or injured if Francesa really did erupt?
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MFS62 Sep 18 2012 09:54 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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That depends on how thinly you can spread about a ton and a half of hot steaming bullshit. Later
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soupcan Sep 21 2012 01:49 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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metirish Jan 28 2013 11:29 AM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Never ends with Francesa
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Frayed Knot Jan 28 2013 07:15 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
The contest foul-up story is apparently true, although Deadspin's "reporting" skills sound a bit thin on the whole police escort thing.
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Ashie62 Jan 28 2013 09:22 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
And next year he can do it in NJ.
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MFS62 Jan 29 2013 09:38 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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The appropriate escort for him would have been to strap him to the back of a flatbed and had those "Wide load" warning cars in front of and behind it. Later
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Valadius Apr 29 2013 12:02 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I just listened to Francesa for probably the first time in about 8 years - he just sounds disinterested. Why is he still on the air?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2013 12:05 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Offhand? Though he'd never publicly admit it, I'm guessing it's because his options outside of what he's doing now are somewhat... limited.
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Ceetar Apr 29 2013 12:05 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Because sports radio is dying and no one's interested in getting innovative.
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Valadius Apr 29 2013 12:10 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Good lord, WFAN - "Mike's on! He's ready to go!" is by far the worst half-hearted plug I've ever heard in my life.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2013 12:12 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
The real answer is that despite how awful he is, he's making money for the station. The real question shouldn't be "why is he on the air?" but instead "why does anyone listen to him?"
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2013 12:12 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Everyone who works here is present today!
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Ceetar Apr 29 2013 12:16 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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I was still listening occasionally when they went to that. He teased the new intro for about a week (because NBC retained the rights to Mike'd Up and he had to change it) and I don't think he could've gone with a replacement that required less effort. It was an opportunity to take a fresh step forward, and nothing..
Because people want to listen and talk sports. They want to hear what's going on and talk about it, and there just aren't those options, particularly when you're doing something non-computer related where you can't just stream something better or use your phone constantly, or are limited to the radio somehow. He's making money for the station because the station continues to make money, or they think they do anyway. Presumably they have ratings and such that suggest that the numbers drop during the weeks he's on vacation, justifying his salary, although I suspect that has more to do with the summer time than his absence and that you could drop a half-trained monkey in there with much the same results.
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metirish Apr 29 2013 01:48 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Francesa on Collins
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2013 02:10 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
Keep in mind, this is a guy who will talk for hours about politics, or horses, or the Oscars.
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Frayed Knot Apr 29 2013 02:11 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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Translation: I didn't have the scoop
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Edgy MD Apr 29 2013 02:32 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
"I can't be compelled to read it because, well, frankly, why read? I mean... outside of menus, what's the point?"
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metsmarathon Apr 29 2013 02:34 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
"i'm not gonna talk about this story because i'm pretty sure i'll say something stupid enough to get me fired"
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2013 02:46 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
At the risk of sounding snarkophobic, what does Deadspin hope to get out of Francessa except to hear him embarrass himself on this topic?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2013 03:07 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
I don't think that's the point, exactly-- it's more, here's the guy, and of course this is how he reacted to this.
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metirish May 22 2013 01:00 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
More solid gold from Francesa.........
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Vic Sage May 22 2013 02:12 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
while i happen to share his disinterest in soccer, he is the one with a sports talk show, and excluding discussion of a major sport just cuz he's not interested in (ie, he knows nothing about) it is the equivalent of malpractice.
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Ceetar May 22 2013 03:06 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
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I don't know if we can count soccer as 'major' although mentioning the stadium in passing is at least worth noting. Even if its' in a "does anyone care about soccer and will they go?" way. on the other hand, I'd put it about golf, tennis and horse racing and he talks plenty about those. more hockey though.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 22 2013 08:28 PM Re: Francesa Erupts |
About 1/3 of baseball coverage-- mostly, the old-timey stuff-- could be categorized as "sports malpractice."
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