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Adventures in Fake Baseball

seawolf17 Aug 30 2012 11:36 AM

Started an Out of the Park Baseball Mets franchise mode in 1992, to rewrite a little history. Well, it's 1998, and this happened in a May game against the Pirates: Top 11th: Mark Thompson pitching for Pirates. 6-6. LF Chad Curtis: double 2B Craig Biggio (acquired in 1992 in a Bonilla/Murray trade): single, Curtis to 3rd. 1B John Olerud: walk PH John Flaherty (for Benitez): walk, RBI (7-6 Mets) C Todd Hundley: grand slam, 4 RBI (11-6 Mets) 3B Edgar Martinez (acquired in 1992 in a Gooden/Sid/HoJo trade): single RF Jacob Cruz (1995 1st round pick): walk CF Kenny Lofton (acquired in spring 1998 for Lance Johnson): single SS Damion Easley (acquired in July 1994 with Flaherty for Rick Reed, Mackey Sasser, and Jeff McKnight): single, RBI (12-6 Mets) Curtis: walk, RBI (13-6 Mets) Biggio: grand slam, 4 RBI (17-6 Mets) --pitching change-- Olerud: single Flaherty: flyout Hundley: home run, 2 RBI (his second of the inning - 19-6 Mets) Martinez: groundout Cruz: HBP Lofton: groundout 13 runs, 9 hits in the top of the eleventh inning. Three home runs, including two grand slams and two from Hundley. Todd had a 3-3-3-8 line on the day, plus three walks. Biggio, leading off, had 5-5-3-4 line, plus two walks. (Nine Pirates pitchers walked a combined thirteen batters that day.) Poor Mark Thompson, who took the brunt of the damage, saw his ERA jump from 5.79 to 10.35, giving up eleven ER in an inning and a third.

Edgy MD Aug 30 2012 11:40 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I liked that you continued the Mets-in-the-90s tradition of trading centerfielders for centerfielders. Can OotP test players for PEDs and suspend them if they are found guilty?

MFS62 Aug 30 2012 11:50 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Edgy DC wrote: Can OotP test players for PEDs and suspend them if they are found guilty? Only if the owners can talk somebody else into holding the cup. (Are there owners? Is this like strat or fantasy baseball?) Later

Mets – Willets Point Aug 30 2012 12:13 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I thought this thread was going to be about the American League.

seawolf17 Aug 30 2012 01:48 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

No steroids, although I'm playing OOTP11, and OOTP13 was released this spring; I wouldn't be surprised if the most current version has steroids. It's a PC computer game. You can start at any year in history; I figured post-Straw would be a logical place to start. My first order of business? Re-acquire Straw. Took relatively little to pry his huge salary away from LA, actually: traded Tom Filer (threw 8 innings for LA in '92 then retired), Mike Birkbeck (threw 8 innings for LA over the 92-93 seasons, then spent three seasons in the minors and retired after an 0-12, 7.84 season in which he also somehow saved 26 games in AA), and Rodney McCray (spent 1992 bouncing around the league on waivers, then retired). Straw's still active in this world in 1998. He became a free agent after 1995 (.251/46/139), and signed with Toronto for four years, $21 million. Toronto, apparently not impressed (.167/4/11 in 72 AB), dealt him to Pittsburgh. (He was on the DL for the above-mentioned game.) Went .252/29/68 in 322 AB in 1997 (injury), though, so he's still got it. Currently has 490 career home runs.

seawolf17 Dec 14 2012 07:41 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

June 26, 2000: Mets at Reds Bottom 9th: Mets 9, Cincinnati 2. Pitching for Mets: Bill Wertz Hamelin: BB Greer: E1 Greene: groundout to SS (1 out) Whitaker (PH): single, 2 RBI (9-4) Knoblauch: single Spencer: single, RBI (9-5) Rolen: K (2 out) pitching change: Pedro Martinez Jones: double, 2 RBI (9-7) Johnson: HR, 2 RBI (9-9) Hamelin: single (Relaford PR) Greer: F8 Top 10th: Mets 9, Cincinnati 9. Pitching for Reds: Steve Foster Easley: 5-3 McEwing: single Halter (PH): K Biggio: single Beltran: single Floyd: HR, 4 RBI (13-9) pitching change: Dennys Reyes Hundley: K Bottom 10th: Mets 13, Cincinnati 9. Pitching for Mets: Steve Kline Greene: 6-3 Reyes: K Knoblauch: BB Spencer: single pitching change: Armando Benitez Rolen: BB Jones: single, 2 RBI (13-11) Johnson: single, RBI (13-12) Wilkins (PH): double, RBI, Johnson thrown out at home (13-13) Top 11th: Mets 13, Cincinnati 13. Pitching for Reds: Dennys Reyes Delgado: double Olerud: 4-3, Delgado to third Easley: SF, RBI (14-13) McEwing: F7 Bottom 11th: Mets 14, Cincinnati 13. Pitching for Mets: Armando Benitez Greer: double Greene: double, RBI (14-14) Reyes: K Knoblauch: single, RBI FINAL SCORE: Reds 15, Mets 14

Edgy MD Dec 14 2012 08:26 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I hoped you traded the pen after the game. I find in this game that backup infielders who show any utility make great trade chips.

seawolf17 Dec 15 2012 07:12 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I'm Valentinian in my desire for position flexibility on my roster. My starting lineup right now is rock-solid, but everyone on my bench can play at least two positions. My pitching staff has been odd this year. Returned the whole cast from last season, when they were amazing, but have been all over the place this year. Signed Billy Wagner to a five-year extension, then he threw one pitch that night and gave up a walkoff home run.

Edgy MD Mar 06 2013 09:04 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Umm...

Mets – Willets Point Mar 06 2013 09:37 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

All CPF'ers front and center: We need to make "This is just a terrible score Edward" a catchphrase for IGT's and anywhere else we can use it.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 06 2013 09:56 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

That's almost as good as "What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

Fman99 Mar 06 2013 10:19 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Mets – Willets Point wrote: All CPF'ers front and center: We need to make "This is just a terrible score Edward" a catchphrase for IGT's and anywhere else we can use it.

TransMonk Mar 06 2013 12:06 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Sounds like an admonishment Hernandez would give. That is just a terrible score Edward.

metirish Mar 06 2013 12:15 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Hilarious....image saved

Edgy MD Mar 06 2013 12:24 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I'd love tell you I wasn't really trying. I sincerely was, but falling asleep with your finger on the intentional walk button is almost always a bad strategy.

themetfairy Mar 06 2013 01:05 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I recognize that photo ;)

Edgy MD Mar 06 2013 04:23 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

TransMonk wrote: Sounds like an admonishment Hernandez would give. That is just a terrible score Edward. Does Keith keep two Keith cards behind him on the wall of the booth?

seawolf17 Mar 06 2013 04:27 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

The one on the left is Bob Ojeda, the right is Keith's All-Star card. Both from the 1986 Topps set.

TransMonk Mar 06 2013 04:28 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

The one on the left is Bob Ojeda's 1986 Topps cards from the Red Sox. OE: Doh...1 minute too late.

Edgy MD Apr 02 2013 05:30 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

It just gets more and more depressing.

seawolf17 Apr 12 2013 09:07 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Brought up the Wright/Reyes combo to start the 2004 season. Reyes batting eighth, Wright second. (Carlos Beltran established as our leadoff hitter already.) Opening Day: Top of the eleventh inning, Reyes leads off with a double. Two batters later, Wright doubles him in. Floyd then drives in Wright; Mets win 6-4. Game 2: Top of the eleventh inning, Reyes leads off with a single, steals second. Two batters later, Wright singles him in. Floyd then drives in Wright; Mets win 6-4. Bizarre.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2013 08:49 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

This might help our cause, 'cept it happened in the offseason.

metsmarathon Jun 07 2013 06:23 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

i just downloaded iOOTP13 for my iphone. a steal at $4.95. i decided to run this current season and see what happens. it starts off on march 31, and marcum is on the dl - he still has about 4 weeks till he can come off, along with johan santana, out for hte year. so i've basically got he same starting point as the real mets. my rotation, however, is slightly different. 1. harvey 2. niese 3. gee 4. hefner 5. wheeler. yup. computer thought he was a better play than laffey, and who am i to argue. i've still got laffey in the pen as my long reliever. so the first game, ike has already mashed a homer, and harvey is cruising through 5, with a homer allowed and 7 k's. he's on first after a fielder's choice. colin cowgill hits a grounder, and harvey tries to take the extra base. slides into third and... injured! laffey comes in and ultimately gives up 4 in the 8th. it was a very metsian start to my season. harvey is out 6-8 weeks with a strained pcl. in the meantime, i've brought up montero. we'll see how that goes. i love that this is on the iphone. love love love. i don't really have time to sit in front of my home computer all that much, but i've always got my phone. and now, i know what i will always be doing with my phone.

Edgy MD Jun 07 2013 07:23 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Santana made it to opening day for me. He started and threw five dazzling innings and walked off the field. Out for 4-5 months. I'm going to guess OotP's programmers were not very bullish on his health. Harvey is my top starter... for St. Lucie. Wheeler passed him last year and is a solid fixture in my MLB rotation. Dickey, while he was winning the Cy Young Award last year in real life, was walking the planet for me after getting a two-year pre-emptive extension. Now I can't trade him for magic beans.

Nymr83 Jun 07 2013 09:08 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

metsmarathon wrote: i just downloaded iOOTP13 for my iphone. a steal at $4.95. [...] i love that this is on the iphone. love love love. i don't really have time to sit in front of my home computer all that much, but i've always got my phone. and now, i know what i will always be doing with my phone. you'll need this

seawolf17 Aug 27 2013 01:05 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Played smg in a little lunchtime Strat, 09 Mets (me) at 88 Mets (him). Santana vs Cone. Ugly early; Cone let the first three batters of the game on, but I only scored once, on a Francoeur SF. Gregg Jefferies answered with an RBI single in the bottom of the inning, and Kevin Elster drove in a run in the second. Then we scored four in the top of the third on a leadoff walk and six singles. Jefferies homered in the bottom to make it 5-3 at the end of the third. The offenses quieted down for a while. Cone struck out eleven in seven innings and left down 5-3, but then Randy Myers left the barn door open, giving up six in the top of the eighth, punctuated by a two-run HR from David Wright. I pulled Santana after five for a PH, and the bullpen of Figueroa (1.2 IP), Misch (0.1), Redding (1, with a run), and Feliciano (1) finished it out. Final score, 11-4 Oh-Niners.

Mets – Willets Point Aug 27 2013 01:19 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

seawolf17 wrote: Final score, 11-4 Oh-Niners. This is just a terrible score, smg.

Edgy MD Oct 11 2013 08:31 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

And this is just a terrible way to go out.

metsmarathon Oct 15 2013 07:05 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

i hope pete rose jr was not your alias in the game...

Edgy MD Oct 15 2013 07:48 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Oh, dear me, no. And really, who flips out on the minor league franchise when he gets fired? It's not them, but the big-league overlords who pull the plug on your tenure. I guess it's initially more engaging when they try and make it more authentic by introducing unusual and non-baseball life factors into the game's progression, but suddenly, it gets spooky. What of the actual ballplayer who might try and play and see his alternative life unfold in the game? Some guy's wife just died --- a real player, not a fictionally generated one. The alternative O's just laid Peter Angelos to rest the other day. At least he led a long alternative electronic life.

seawolf17 Oct 15 2013 02:49 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Actual guy behind us at a Ducks game a few years ago: "Hey, that Pete Rose Jr., there? That's Pete Rose's son."

Edgy MD Dec 10 2013 08:41 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

The season is over! Your season score this year is 53 out of 100. This is a very good score, Edward.

seawolf17 Dec 10 2013 09:16 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Just scored a 100 out of 100 despite losing the seventh game of the 2005 World Series tonight to a juggernaut Twins team that repeated as Series champs. I loaded the bases down by a run in the ninth, but Freddy Sanchez struck out to end the Series. Tony Saunders, who won Game 7 of the NLCS behind seven shutout innings, took a 2-0 lead into the seventh but fell apart and gave up five runs. We chipped back with homers from Wright in the seventh and Piazza in the eighth, but couldn't come all the way back.

Edgy MD Dec 11 2013 06:38 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

There I was feeling all big about mice elf.

metsmarathon Dec 11 2013 10:59 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

i'm about halfway through the 2013 season on the iootp 13 app. i've got an interesting team, and have made a number of moves. i'm not sure if they're helped or hurt, but my team is, to my mind, underperforming. i picked up carlos gomez and then flipped him to boston for jacoby ellsbury. i picked up michael bourne for buck and hawkins, then flipped him for austin jackson, who i then flipped for jay bruce. and i recently picked up yoenis cespedis for jordanny valdespin. it seems that, ellsbury aside, when i grab a player, they wickedly underperform, then blossom after leaving my team. very frustrating. also frustrating is david wright, who has 2 home runs (tejada has 3) almost 100 games into the season, and is batting 274/375/369. my team is 44 & 60, despite a 434/440 RS/RA split. i must be a godawful manager to have these guys so massively underperforming their pythagorean expectations...

Edgy MD Dec 11 2013 11:18 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

seawolf17 wrote: Just scored a 100 out of 100 despite losing the seventh game of the 2005 World Series tonight to a juggernaut Twins team that repeated as Series champs. I loaded the bases down by a run in the ninth, but Freddy Sanchez struck out to end the Series. Tony Saunders, who won Game 7 of the NLCS behind seven shutout innings, took a 2-0 lead into the seventh but fell apart and gave up five runs. We chipped back with homers from Wright in the seventh and Piazza in the eighth, but couldn't come all the way back. Do you manage the team or just GM? I've been managing the team in games. The team refers to me as the GM and Terry Collins as manager, but Collins just retired on me. I guess, even if I'm making the game calls, a manager is useful as a head coach, so I'm weighing whether to go outside the organization for help or promoting Backman. Starting in 2012, my OotP universe didn't get the menu that the post-Madoff/post-Omar Mets were on an austerity kick. That terrible 1 out of 100 score was me trying to GM and manage on the real budget that the real Mets played under that year. For 2013 I worked under the generous budget the game gave me, but there was little left over after I signed Wright for a LTBB contract similar to the one he got in weal wife, and then Johan and his $25 million went down on opening day. This year, after not picking up Johan, and with Duda/Davis/Tejada having developed and produced far beyond their real world parallels, I have beaucoup bucks to play with, Lincecum and Hamilton on the market. I have a real chance to excel, and look forward to going all Minaya on the market, crashing and burning, and ending up with another terrible score, and promising my wife I won't waste another second on the evil game.

metsmarathon Dec 11 2013 11:24 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

i'm both manager and gm. i don't really know how best to get my guys to hit to their potential, as if anything i do has any impact on that. i surmise that the iphone app has less control over some things than the full gmae does, but sometimes i really wish i had hte option to just say 'swing for the fences' or 'just make slappy contact, you jackass - there's a guy on third with one out. don't be a fucking hero."

seawolf17 Dec 11 2013 12:03 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Edgy MD wrote: Do you manage the team or just GM? I do a little of both. I'll put together the team in the offseason, simulate through spring training, then play each game up until the draft on June 15. Once I'm confident I've got the team where I want it, I'll simulate for a while, stopping for major injuries and things, then I play most of September and the playoffs. I'm about to start 2006 with this crew: CF Beltran (FA after 2006, contract offer pending) 3B Wright LF Floyd C Piazza 1B Carlos Pena (FA after 2006, contract offer pending) 2B Freddy Sanchez SS Reyes RF Rocco Baldelli (Grady Sizemore will miss 2006 with a torn MCL) Bench: Josh Bard C, Willie Harris, Aubrey Huff, Corey Patterson, Shinjo SP: Rick Ankiel (acquired in a 6-for-1 deal before the 2004 season, went 17-6 and 17-5 the last two years and has hit .333 with six home runs in those two seasons) Joe Nathan Tony Saunders RA Dickey Johan Santana (Yes, my #5. I called him up in 2003 and he went 5-3, 5.33 in 10 starts, then went 10-11, 5.01 in 29 starts in 2004, so I kept him in AAA for most of 2005. But Kerry Wood, who I signed to a big FA deal a few years back, hurt himself in Spring Training, so Johan gets another shot.) My bullpen was a bunch of superstars for me last season, and : Jose Valverde (3.23), Octavio Dotel (3.64), TJ Tucker (2.89), Pedro Feliciano (4.57), Randy Choate (2.76), Nelson Cruz (2.13), and closer BK Kim (1.82, 43 saves). Cruz is also hurt, so Grant Roberts takes his place to start 2006.

Edgy MD Dec 11 2013 12:09 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Should we propose doing a forum league?

seawolf17 Feb 21 2014 09:32 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Winner-take-all LDS game 5? Pedro says "not today, Cardinals."

Edgy MD Feb 21 2014 09:36 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

That didn't happen. What season is that from? OE: The best part may be "Ground Outs - Fly Outs: P Martinez 3 -1." His fielders had to make four outs all day.

seawolf17 Feb 21 2014 10:12 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

That's why this is the 'adventures in fake baseball' thread, Edge. 1997. We needed an ace at the beginning of 1996, so I made a blockbuster: Reggie Jefferson (who I'd signed that offseason but wasn't playing -- but he's earned 5.5 WAR in the last two seasons for Montreal), Mark Clark (28-21, 3.40 ERA the last two seasons), Roberto Hernandez (who saved 14 games for the Expos in '96), and Alex Ochoa (who's settled into a nice fourth OF role for them) for Pedro and Cliff Floyd (who hit .212 last year, but became my starting LF in midseason '97 and finished with a .969 OPS in 340 AB).

Edgy MD Feb 21 2014 10:31 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

That's a great trade. No guarantee that Pedro becomes the Pedro he was with the Sox, but he sure looks like it. I needed an ace too. I cut a load of salary and was chasing after Tim Lincecum. He had me up to $33.5 per annum million over seven years before I said "this is crazy." I signed Josh Johnson instead for $22 million per over four. This game is an incredible time-waster. Yet, it might all be worth it for a 23-strikeout win-or-go-home playoff game. Were you managing? Did you have to leave him in with an "exhausted" label?

seawolf17 Feb 21 2014 11:25 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Clark started the season 5-1, 3.48 in six starts for me in 1996, so I was definitely selling high. But he did have a 6.1 WAR for them this season, and signed a 6 yr/$33 M extension in August. (Pedro extended with us for 4/$17.5, though.) I played the whole game. I was up 6-1 after seven and got the bullpen going just in case, but he just kept striking guys out, so I rode him the whole way. He struck out the side in the eighth and the ninth. He also lost Game 1, 3-2, despite pitching a complete game and striking out 14. Crazy.

TheOldMole Feb 22 2014 01:09 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I've been playing OOTP because it's the only game available for tablet, but not happy with it. I'm playing the 1948 season, and I had the trade function turned on, and suddenly the Cubs traded Hank Sauer to the Gisnts. So I turned it off, but now I can't make the trades that really got made during the course of the season. But what really sealed it for me was yesterday when I was playing the Dodgers against the Porates, and PeeWee Reese led off the game with a home run, followed by PeeWee Reese who hit a home run. So now with nobody out in the top of the first, the Dodgers lead 2-0, and Reese is 2 for 2. Hardly seems worth continuing the season.

Edgy MD Feb 22 2014 01:34 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I ran into a glitch like that two or three times in two or three seasons. Only way I've thought of to deal with it is to leave the game open and the computer unplugged and force it to crash without saving. Still think we should do a forum league.

TheOldMole Feb 22 2014 05:13 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

I'd be up for it.

Zvon Feb 22 2014 05:19 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

Count me in. Fake baseball is right in line with fake baseball cards :)

seawolf17 May 30 2014 08:27 AM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

My 1999 Mets got no-hit last night by Jamie Moyer (7 2/3, six walks) and Miguel Batista (1 1/3, two walks), then Bill Pulsipher, after pitching 8 2/3 scoreless himself, gave up a walkoff solo home run in the bottom of the ninth. Urg.

Edgy MD Jul 21 2014 08:27 PM Re: Adventures in Fake Baseball

So, my team was a juggernaut. Up by over a dozen games as September opens. I had my eye on some minor leaguers who could help me in October, so I made sure to call them up before September 1. When September 1 came around, I called up everybody on my roster who was healthy. I had a 38-man active roster. Why not? A few days into September, I realize that almost all of my minor league teams had qualified for their post-season, but I had stripped them all of their best players through September promotions. So I sent a bunch of my callups back down until their minor league playoffs ended. Now that I've called them back, I learn that none of them are eligible for the post-season. They're treated as guys as came up after September 1, even though they had originally come up earlier. Some of these players had been with me for months and were key parts! I now have only one eligible catcher!