Master Index of Archived Threads


IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Frayed Knot Sep 18 2012 10:27 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 19 2012 12:37 PM

... although the forecasts for getting this one in aren't looking too good. Apres Cliff Lee, le deluge. What we'll probably see is either a DH tomorrow or both teams have an open date on Thursday as well. If and when it does come off it'll be Matt Harvey's last start of the year before he gets shut down. Unfortunately for Matt, the offense was shut down long before he ever got here, like sometime in early August. He's scheduled to face Tyler Cloyd, who sounds like he ought to be out on his private yacht trying to land a marlin. Not to be confused with his cousin Cloyd Tyler who's definitely more at home trolling for catfish in some bayou.

G-Fafif Sep 18 2012 01:11 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Mets decide Harvey too valuable to mess around with in iffy weather, will throw Hefner to the wind tonight, if there is a tonight.

G-Fafif Sep 18 2012 01:13 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Mets also don't care if Fred Lewis blows away. Lewis-RF Murphy-2B Wright-3B Davis-1B Duda-LF Turner-SS Valdespin-CF Shoppach-C Hefner-RHP

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 18 2012 01:16 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Hefner. Get off my lawn.

HahnSolo Sep 18 2012 01:24 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Christ. Hope no one bought tickets thinking Harvey was starting.

themetfairy Sep 18 2012 01:46 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

HahnSolo wrote: Christ. Hope no one bought tickets thinking Harvey was starting. I was thinking about it. Glad I held off.

G-Fafif Sep 18 2012 01:50 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

They can all blow away, too. Rollins SS Pierre LF Utley 2B Howard 1B Mayberry CF Brown RF Frandsen 3B Kratz C Cloyd P

G-Fafif Sep 18 2012 02:25 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Fred Lewis and Jeremy Hefner can come inside now. Rainout. Makeup Thursday night.

Edgy MD Sep 18 2012 02:34 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

My vision of the remaining lineups of the season being Bayless got off to a good start.

themetfairy Sep 18 2012 02:40 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Is Harvey pitching tomorrow?

Mets – Willets Point Sep 18 2012 03:44 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

More rainouts means more potential starts for R.A. Dickey! Dickey, rain, rain, rain, Dickey, rain, rain, etc. He could potentially get 15 more starts this way.

Ashie62 Sep 18 2012 04:51 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Fred Lewis was a "can't miss" type prospect around 2007, oh well...

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 12:39 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Date updated on the IGT - as is the Philly pitcher as mgr Charlie uses the occasion of the rain-out to swap his pitching around, so we'll get Hamels today on his regular rest and Cloyd gets bumped to tomorrow. Harvey still starting for the Mets.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 12:49 PM Re: IGT 9/18/12 Phils @ Mets

Ashie62 wrote: Fred Lewis was a "can't miss" type prospect around 2007, oh well... Fred Lewis was a 2nd round pick (66th overall) by the Giants out of Southern University in 2002, two years after he passed on signing w/Montreal when they picked him in the 20th round while in Junior College. After his good season in A-Ball* in 2004, Baseball America ranked him as the #78 prospect in their pre-2005 rankings although that's not only the highest he ever got but also the only time he ever showed up in their Top-100. Promising prospect but never exactly in the "can't miss" category. * beware of Cal League stats for a hitter

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 12:55 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

The only time I ever really read the words "can't miss" are in when the term is applied in retrospect by someone claiming a prospect has been oversold.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 04:57 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Well, 'can't miss prospect' or not, Fred loses his start to the rain-out and the revamped line-up as a result of Philly's switch to a LHP Tejada - 6 Murphy - 4 Wright - 5 Hairston - 9 Davis - 3 Shoppach - 2 Duda - 7 Torres - 8 Harvey - 1

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 05:15 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

1st batter = Insurmountable lead Oh well, we were in it for a while.

The Second Spitter Sep 19 2012 06:11 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

OMG the Mets tied the ballgame.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 06:37 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

I wonder how many votes Rob Dibble would get for biggest asshole to step on the mound over the last 27 years? For those not listening to the TV crew Dibble was part of the topic of conversation during tonight's game

Swan Swan H Sep 19 2012 06:56 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

It's a bird It's a plane It's SUGARPANTS

Swan Swan H Sep 19 2012 06:57 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: I wonder how many votes Rob Dibble would get for biggest asshole to step on the mound over the last 27 years? For those not listening to the TV crew Dibble was part of the topic of conversation during tonight's game That depends. How many people have never heard of Roger Clemens?

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 07:22 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Harvey is/was certainly one positive to come out of this season. I'd be pressed to come up with a second one though. Be nice if we can hang on to this one and get him the win.

bmfc1 Sep 19 2012 07:43 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Did Harvey say "we've got a good defense" as Murphy made the error?

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 07:48 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: Did Harvey say "we've got a good defense" as Murphy made the error? Yup - although not technically an error because Ruiz didn't advance on the play. Harvey was, of course, referring to the two GiDPs behind him earlier in the game but, yeah, that was unfortunate timing on Muffy's part. Nice inning by Parnell - and it seems like a while since I've typed that sentence. Even the one hit was a broken bat bloop and he had to get an extra out due to the bad throw by Murph.

The Second Spitter Sep 19 2012 07:49 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: Harvey is/was certainly one positive to come out of this season. Fatsecca tomorrow morning: "I like the kid. He's got some nice stuff. But he's no Tom Seaver. He's not Tom Seaver. Like i said, he's got some nice stuff, but he's not Tom Seaver....AND ANYBODY WHO THINKS HE'S TOM SEAVER IS SERIOUSLY DELUDING HIMSELF!!!!!!!! FOR GOD'S SAKE, HE'S NOT TOM SEAVER!!!!!!...." " Now somebody pass me another donut because I can feel my blood sugar dropping"

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 07:52 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Gotta get one (or more) of these runners in here.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:01 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Let's go, Torres!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 19 2012 08:01 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Well, it would have been nice, anyway.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:02 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Surely. Fastest guy on the team there.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 19 2012 08:04 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

F the Phils and the Horst they rode in on.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:06 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Jason Bay, defensive replacement. Josh Edgin, closer. Edgy DC, uncomfortable. Jimmy Rollins, strikeout victim.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 19 2012 08:07 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Nice start to the inning, as Edgin's slider screws Rollins into the dirt, trying to check his swing.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:08 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Gameday has Ty Wigginton's name under Juan Pierre's photo. Phunny.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:09 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

That's II!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 19 2012 08:10 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Wigginton makes like Pierre, minus the contact-- he's down on three swings, the last on another rude, tilting slider.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:16 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Fartbreaking.

Kong76 Sep 19 2012 08:16 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Everyone who knew the HR was coming say yay.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 19 2012 08:17 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Dammit.

bmfc1 Sep 19 2012 08:18 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Are you fucking kidding? Is there any joy left for Mets fans? We can't even win when the starter gives up one pitch. Why the fuck do we endure this?

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 08:18 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: Gotta get one (or more) of these runners in here. As I was saying.

Met Hunter Sep 19 2012 08:19 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Serves ya right to anyone that continues to watch this. Its like still watching the Titanic after its 50 below the ocean.

bmfc1 Sep 19 2012 08:19 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

And fuck you Shorty for putting Edgin in that situation Rauch has been great the last two months, you piece of shit. Lefty/righty who gives a fuck other than a brain dead old timer with no feel for the game.

Swan Swan H Sep 19 2012 08:20 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Papelbon is coming in. We got this.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:21 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Three runs on three hits. Growf.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 08:22 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

I had no problem with using Edgin there. With 4 straight* LHBs coming up I would have made the same call. * Rollins is switch but hits much better these days from the left side

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:26 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: And fuck you Shorty for putting Edgin in that situation Rauch has been great the last two months, you piece of shit. I think it was a perfectly justifiable decision given the choices also.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 19 2012 08:27 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: I had no problem with using Edgin there. With 3 straight* LHBs coming up I would have made the same call. * Rollins is switch but hits much better these days from the left side Same here-- Utley and Howard both do much poorer, career-wise, against fastball-slider lefties (see: Feliciano). Good process, bad results. AND 'Spin gets jobbed... and run.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 08:29 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Do I even need to mention that Jeter walked tonight on a ball six inches closer to the plate than the one Valdespin just got wrung up on? No I don't, do I?

bmfc1 Sep 19 2012 08:30 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Of course Brown makes a great catch. If it was Bay, it would have just gone off his glove. Should Shorty have come out to tell the ump he missed the call and defend his player?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 19 2012 08:32 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Not only are we giving/coughing up games, we're giving/coughing up games to a desperate, playoff-chasing Phils team. We're keeping their postseason dreams on life support.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 08:32 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

If you want someone(s) to blame this on put it, as usual, on the offense 9 hits + 3 walks + a HBP + 2 SBs has to equal more than 2 runs, especially when one of the runs came via one swing of the bat. And, aside from that Brown play there in the 9th, it's not like the Phillies were playing amazing defense either.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 08:35 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Not only are we giving/coughing up games, we're giving/coughing up games to a desperate, playoff-chasing Phils team. We're keeping their postseason dreams on life support. Well it's only fair seeing as how we're keeping the desperate dreams of the Brewers alive too, and that we're contributing to the dreams of the division title for the Braves, and to the dreams of their first ever title for the Nationals. And then next week we can do the same for the Pirates. We're an equal opportunity looser.

The Second Spitter Sep 19 2012 08:43 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 19 2012 08:55 PM

There's no fucking accountability in this club, because they all know Fred won't eat a contract. I wonder how worried Sandy is about the current state of the Mets (that is provided he's still aware which club he's at.) It's not he has to worry about job security or anything. Like I (and some others here have said) Moneyball is archaic and never had any success in the first place.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 08:54 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Well, maybe less reluctant to than others, but he ate the last years of Perez's and Castillo's contracts. That's a $20 million (or so) sandwich. Do you really think the continued presence of Bay in the clubhouse helped make tonight's loss happen? Or is it Terry's continued employment to which you refer?

The Second Spitter Sep 19 2012 08:56 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

I was referring to everybody from the GM down. (see my above edit)

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2012 09:01 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

The Second Spitter wrote: There's no fucking accountability in this club, because they all know Fred won't eat a contract. I know we're all pissed off here, but this doesn't even remotely make sense. - Is there any doubt that virtually everyone on this team right now is playing for a starting job and/or a contract next year? The individual situations differ, but isn't Bay trying not to get cut loose and see his career end in shambles?; aren't Ike & Duda essentially fighting for the same position?; or Dickey & Wright for possible extensions?; or Hairston for a more substantial role?; or Murphy, or Turner, or Torres, or any and all of the catchers to win or save starting jobs? - and considering that Fred has eaten large portions of the contracts of two of the last three managers prior to this one, plus authorized over $20mil worth of dead wood in Perez & Castillo just one winter ago, exactly how does anyone on either side of the dugout rail get the notion that they're bullet-proof no matter what they do or how they perform?

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 09:18 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

The Second Spitter wrote: I was referring to everybody from the GM down. (see my above edit) I would disagree with both halves of your added comment about Moneyball also. I don't think folks even agree with what "Moneyball" means, except being smart and confident enough to question and test assumptions, which I'd say has certainly worked since time immemorial, though doesn't always pay off directly for the smart and bold ones.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2012 10:00 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

"It was up -- middle up," Edgin said about the fateful pitch to Howard. "That's what he's paid to do. He's a big guy, paid to hit home runs. I give him a meatball, so he's going to do it."

The Second Spitter Sep 20 2012 02:21 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: There's no fucking accountability in this club, because they all know Fred won't eat a contract. I know we're all pissed off here, but this doesn't even remotely make sense. - Is there any doubt that virtually everyone on this team right now is playing for a starting job and/or a contract next year? The individual situations differ, but isn't Bay trying not to get cut loose and see his career end in shambles?; aren't Ike & Duda essentially fighting for the same position?; or Dickey & Wright for possible extensions?; or Hairston for a more substantial role?; or Murphy, or Turner, or Torres, or any and all of the catchers to win or save starting jobs? - and considering that Fred has eaten large portions of the contracts of two of the last three managers prior to this one, plus authorized over $20mil worth of dead wood in Perez & Castillo just one winter ago, exactly how does anyone on either side of the dugout rail get the notion that they're bullet-proof no matter what they do or how they perform? My issue isn't with the player personnel or the roster, per se. The point I was trying to make is that the front office staff have to be as accountable for this debacle as TC and the players. Given that Alderson was previously working for the Commissioner's Office, the same Commissioner's office that made all those friendly loans to Mets that prevented the club going the same way as the Dodgers, I don't think Fred's gonna be in a hurry to chop-off the hand that fed him when his situation was most dire. If you disagree with this fine. Edgy DC wrote: I would disagree with both halves of your added comment about Moneyball also. I don't think folks even agree with what "Moneyball" means, except being smart and confident enough to question and test assumptions, which I'd say has certainly worked since time immemorial, though doesn't always pay off directly for the smart and bold ones. I'm always wary of blindly following a dogma. In a nutshell, Moneyball is about exploiting asymmetric information in the baseball labor market. However, the economic models which it is based on predict a return to the status quo in the long-run because in baseball terms, every team now uses the same criteria (more or less) for their drafting/trading/FA decisions. So unless you can exploit other statistics, it's a frivolous pursuit. It's clear from what Paul DeMensa has said over the last year that they are adhering to this philosophy. So they are either using (a) different, unproven metrics (I'll take a wild guess that BABIP is one of them) (b) the previous metrics with minimal benefit or (c) ownership is intervening in their decision-making process which is impacting on (a) or (b).

Fman99 Sep 20 2012 04:20 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

I watched the whole thing. And I laughed when ol' Nostril Face went yard, at the absurdity of it and also the total "saw it coming"-a-tude of it. At this point in the season, it's hard for me to get that worked up about one more loss.

themetfairy Sep 20 2012 06:24 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

My favorite moment last night happened before the game. I caught some of the pregame activities, including Phil Niekro giving R.A. Dickey "The Claw" behind his back -

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2012 06:39 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

The Second Spitter wrote: My issue isn't with the player personnel or the roster, per se. The point I was trying to make is that the front office staff have to be as accountable for this debacle as TC and the players. Given that Alderson was previously working for the Commissioner's Office, the same Commissioner's office that made all those friendly loans to Mets that prevented the club going the same way as the Dodgers, I don't think Fred's gonna be in a hurry to chop-off the hand that fed him when his situation was most dire. If you disagree with this fine. Well I'm not sure I can agree or disagree because I'm not clear what your point is. If it's that Alderson -- knowing that Fred is beholden to the MLB office and unwilling to eat any contracts (aside from the ones he's constantly eaten over the years that is) -- feels that he has a job for life which, in turn, makes the players and coaching staff play as if their jobs are all secure for the foreseeable future because they know the GM has no interest in the performance of the team, then I guess I disagree.

Edgy MD Sep 20 2012 06:49 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

The Second Spitter wrote: I'm always wary of blindly following a dogma. In a nutshell, Moneyball is about exploiting asymmetric information in the baseball labor market. However, the economic models which it is based on predict a return to the status quo in the long-run because in baseball terms, every team now uses the same criteria (more or less) for their drafting/trading/FA decisions. So unless you can exploit other statistics, it's a frivolous pursuit. It's clear from what Paul DeMensa has said over the last year that they are adhering to this philosophy. So they are either using (a) different, unproven metrics (I'll take a wild guess that BABIP is one of them) (b) the previous metrics with minimal benefit or (c) ownership is intervening in their decision-making process which is impacting on (a) or (b). I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but it seems you're hammering for the disposal of Alderson and possibly DePodesta. Seeing as his work has taken place while paring 25% from the payroll since 2010 (and the team has pared 37% since 2009), I'm going to reserve judgment on Alderson, even as I wish he was more present and available during this losing streak. Regarding DePodesta, as director of player development and scouting, it's certainly way to early to judge his work. (Has Nimmo not come fast enough?) Nearly $40 million comes off the books this year, so it's the first time Alderson's management team gets to build, rather than merely re-arrange. Under any circumstances, I feel pretty certain that neither Torres' double play, Edgin's meatball to Howard, nor Wright's final out were connected to them feeling undermotivated due to the continued employment of the director of player development.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 20 2012 06:53 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

It was probably because they were demoralized by Dillon Gee's shoulder.

Edgy MD Sep 20 2012 07:33 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Second-Guess Theater, in Which We Try to Look at What the Mets as a Team Could Have Done Besides Not Give up the Meatball [list]Should Collins have squeezed (squozen?) with Torres? Should Collins have pinch-hit for Torres? With whom? Cedeno? Lutz? Should Collins/Warthan have not used up their mound visit for Wigginton, and instead trusted Edgin then and gone out to prep him regarding Howard? Should Shoppy have gone to the mound to warn Edgin what not to throw to Howard? (Did he? Would he really know?) Should Collins have ordered a pitch-around on Howard, and then, if Edgin lost him, have gone to Rauch to pitch to Ruiz? Should Collins have gone matchup-crazy, going to Rauch to pitch to Wigginton, and then Carson to pitch to Utley and Howard?[/list:u] Not a lot of good options among those. I think scoring more might have been a good idea.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 20 2012 07:48 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It was probably because they were demoralized by Dillon Gee's shoulder. LOL. My scary suspicion is that The Plan, such as it was, consisted to a large degree of exploiting financial advantages in the draft for the first couple years but that strategy was neutered somewhat by the stupid new bonus cap rules that went into effect this year. Meantime the few things they were hoping would go up this year (Duda, Davis, Nieuwenhuis, Thole) went sideways and/or down. I can't explain the bullpen struggles and neither can you. I'm actually long past worrying about it and hopeful it can be pretty good next year given what we've seen from Parnell, Familia, Ramirez, Edgin, Carson etc. Anyway, that doesn't really bother me. The Braintrust did well with Cedeno and Hairston, both strong bench players. Pie in the sky here, but I think they find the scratch to sign Justin Upton (buddy of Wright's, could be a "good buy" given his so-so 2012 season), go with a Hairston/Nieuwenhuis platoon in RF and trade Davis for a left fielder or a catcher who can really hit, maybe they've got something.

Edgy MD Sep 20 2012 07:57 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Can you imagine if they seemed to build their offseason strategy around catering to Wright --- signing Upton over Ludwick and Bourne or even Hamilton, and made Super Joe manager? While I more or less like those moves on their own merits, such a perception could backfire and lead to a hate campaign against Wright if and when these moves fail, as most moves do.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 20 2012 08:08 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: "It was up -- middle up," Edgin said about the fateful pitch to Howard. "That's what he's paid to do. He's a big guy, paid to hit home runs. I give him a meatball, so he's going to do it." I'm gonna have something with meatballs for lunch today. I can't get that picture out of my head.

Edgy MD Sep 20 2012 08:15 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

batmagadanleadoff Sep 20 2012 08:17 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Madkes?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 20 2012 08:30 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter.

The Second Spitter Sep 20 2012 08:46 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. This gives me a Wyclef jean parody idea, but I'm afraid nobody will get it.

Vic Sage Sep 20 2012 09:44 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. This has been my mantra since April.

MFS62 Sep 20 2012 09:49 AM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It was probably because they were demoralized by Dillon Gee's shoulder. If you eat a few of those meatballs in that picture, you could get a clot in more than just your shoulder. Later

batmagadanleadoff Sep 20 2012 05:55 PM Re: IGT 9/19/12 Phils @ Mets

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy DC wrote: "It was up -- middle up," Edgin said about the fateful pitch to Howard. "That's what he's paid to do. He's a big guy, paid to hit home runs. I give him a meatball, so he's going to do it." I'm gonna have something with meatballs for lunch today. I can't get that picture out of my head. That meatball parmigiana hero sandwich I had this afternoon is still weighted down in my stomach, like a lead balloon. It musta multiplied in the last few hours. I feel like I have twin or triplet sandwiches in there. I'm done eating for today. Oh. And fuck you, Josh Edgin. [youtube]bvso-HGJqs4[/youtube]