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IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

G-Fafif Oct 02 2012 10:49 PM

74-88, with alternating dollops of Pollyannish BS when they play well and overwrought doom and gloom when they don't filling the Metscape That was me when asked in another thread what the Mets' record would be in 2012. The Mets are 73-88. There was plenty of Pollyannish BS when they played well. There was plenty of overwrought doom and gloom when they didn't. I'll go out on a limb and make one more prediction: there will be no more games after today. So, Mets, win the one that's left and make me look more prescient than I could possibly be in real life. Or as the lady in those anti-Bloomberg soda radio ads put it with clipped enthusiasm, C'mon...Mets.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 06:34 AM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

I hate that lady. But I'm with her today. C'mon...Mets.

bmfc1 Oct 03 2012 06:43 AM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Attn seawolf17: Adam Rubin ?@AdamRubinESPN Marlins will start Stony Brook U./New Rochelle H.S. product Tom Koehler against the Mets in the season finale, while using entire bullpen

MFS62 Oct 03 2012 08:34 AM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Attn seawolf17: Adam Rubin ?@AdamRubinESPN ..., while using entire bullpen Just what the players on both sides want, a 6 hour ballgame. Later

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 08:53 AM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

I think it'll be shorter than most. Lots of pitchers doesn't necessarily make a game longer. Lots of mid-inning pitching changes does. I'm not sure that's the plan.

Fman99 Oct 03 2012 10:08 AM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Agreed -- I predict lots of first pitch swinging today.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 11:48 AM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Mets =#4080FF]Marlins [list=1][*]Tejada, ss[/*:m] [*]Murphy, 2b[/*:m] [*]Wright, 3b[/*:m] [*]Davis, 1b[/*:m] [*]Hairston, rf[/*:m] [*]Duda, lf[/*:m] [*]Shoppach, c[/*:m] [*]Torres, cf[/*:m] [*]Hefner, sp[/*:m][/list:o] [list=1][*]Petersen, lf[/*:m] [*]Hernandez, cf[/*:m] [*]Reyes, ss[/*:m] [*]Stanton, rf[/*:m] [*]Lee, 1b[/*:m] [*]Solano, 2b[/*:m] [*]Buck, c[/*:m] [*]Velazquez, 3b[/*:m] [*]Koehler, sp[/*:m][/list:o] Wright expected to leave the game early, according to Terry. Not on the Forever Plan, like Reyes, I would hope. Seems like Hairston's started the last two weeks straight.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2012 12:07 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

That's one of the many reasons why I'm skeptical about the "Jason Bay won't have to compete for a job in the spring" stories we've been seeing. Terry seems to have given up on Bay, and deservedly so. I have to think that that portends how it will be next year, if Bay somehow makes the team. (Which I also highly doubt.)

Ceetar Oct 03 2012 12:16 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That's one of the many reasons why I'm skeptical about the "Jason Bay won't have to compete for a job in the spring" stories we've been seeing. Terry seems to have given up on Bay, and deservedly so. I have to think that that portends how it will be next year, if Bay somehow makes the team. (Which I also highly doubt.) Bay won't have to compete for a job in the spring. Someone will pick him up for the minimum after the Mets release him and he'll probably earn a bench spot based on veteranness.

Vic Sage Oct 03 2012 12:27 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

bmfc1 wrote: Attn seawolf17: Adam Rubin ?@AdamRubinESPN Marlins will start Stony Brook U./New Rochelle H.S. product Tom Koehler against the Mets in the season finale, while using entire bullpen With me being a SB alum and with my daughter going to New Roc HS, and my son a few years from there (and with a Mets loss tying me for the win in the "predict the Mets" thread), I'm cheering for Koehler today. Go Fish!

G-Fafif Oct 03 2012 12:52 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

If Jason Bay somehow rustles up two or three at-bats and gets at least two hits, he will NOT have the lowest season batting average of any Met ever to garner 200 plate appearances. But judging by this lineup, I think Al Weis's 1968 can rest easy.

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2012 12:54 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

A corner OFer in the 21st century looking to match the BA from the backup SS set during the most hitting-depleted season since the dead-ball era is a rather low bar indeed.

G-Fafif Oct 03 2012 01:12 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Frayed Knot wrote: A corner OFer in the 21st century looking to match the BA from the backup SS set during the most hitting-depleted season since the dead-ball era is a rather low bar indeed. And I'm confident Bay can't clear it. Not won't, but can't.

Ashie62 Oct 03 2012 01:15 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Cant...Spirit may be willing but the talent is gone baby gone.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 01:50 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Mets fans, MLB hears you, and has therefore elected to make today's game free through mlb.tv.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 02:11 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Okay folks, this is it. Can't believe its the last game of 2012.

TransMonk Oct 03 2012 02:13 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

I'm guessing that Jose doens't lay down a bunt single and then take the rest of the game off.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2012 02:16 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Let's pound this Stony Brook chump.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 02:17 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

TransMonk wrote: I'm guessing that Jose doens't lay down a bunt single and then take the rest of the game off. Tejadas fine season and individual at bats which are a joy to watch has me sayin " Jose who?"

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 02:17 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

It could happen. Ruben Tejada misses the hurry-up memo and opens by singling on his seventh pitch.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 02:18 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ew. For once I think Davis should go off on an ump. That was no strike.

G-Fafif Oct 03 2012 02:21 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Zvon wrote: TransMonk wrote: I'm guessing that Jose doens't lay down a bunt single and then take the rest of the game off. Tejadas fine season and individual at bats which are a joy to watch has me sayin " Jose who?" It doesn't by any means tell the entire tale, but as we speak, Reyes and Tejada have identical batting averages of .287. Wish they still played together.

Ceetar Oct 03 2012 02:24 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

G-Fafif wrote: Zvon wrote: TransMonk wrote: I'm guessing that Jose doens't lay down a bunt single and then take the rest of the game off. Tejadas fine season and individual at bats which are a joy to watch has me sayin " Jose who?" It doesn't by any means tell the entire tale, but as we speak, Reyes and Tejada have identical batting averages of .287. Wish they still played together. indeed. better together would be preferable. Actually Tejada has had a 'eh' season and showed very little growth that has me a little concerned. plays the premium position and is probably above average defensively so that doesn't kill you or anything, but it's not a strength either.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 02:25 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

The Mets have announced that Steve Chillcott will be given an at-bat during this game. Mets spokesman Jay Horowitz reports that the team is also looking for Hank McGraw so they can "throw him a bone" as well.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 02:25 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ceetar wrote: Actually Tejada has had a 'eh' season and showed very little growth that has me a little concerned. plays the premium position and is probably above average defensively so that doesn't kill you or anything, but it's not a strength either. Tejada has a 1.8 WAR which is about equal to Reyes on a per-PA basis. Being above average defensively at shortstop --- or anywhere, really --- is indeed a strength. How is shortstop "the premium position"?

Mets – Willets Point Oct 03 2012 02:26 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Zvon wrote: Okay folks, this is it. Can't believe its the last game of 2012.

TransMonk Oct 03 2012 02:26 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

The Mets have about a dozen concerns that are bigger than Tejada, IMO.

Ceetar Oct 03 2012 02:30 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Edgy DC wrote: Ceetar wrote: Actually Tejada has had a 'eh' season and showed very little growth that has me a little concerned. plays the premium position and is probably above average defensively so that doesn't kill you or anything, but it's not a strength either. Tejada has a 1.8 WAR which is about equal to Reyes on a per-PA basis. Being above average defensively at shortstop --- or anywhere, really --- is indeed a strength. Function of defense metrics apparently. I obviously haven't watched both concurrently, but Reyes always seemed better defensively to me. But it's not about Jose. Jose is much better. It's about Tejada putting up the same WAR in more PA than last year. Walking less. striking out more. B-R lists him at 88 OPS+.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 02:31 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Okay folks, this is it. Can't believe its the last game of 2012. Ha!:)

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 02:36 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ceetar wrote: Function of defense metrics apparently. I obviously haven't watched both concurrently, but Reyes always seemed better defensively to me. I'm not sure why. I'm happy with the measurement. Ceetar wrote: But it's not about Jose. Jose is much better. I disagree. Ceetar wrote: It's about Tejada putting up the same WAR in more PA than last year. Apparently WAR has more meaning when comparing Tejada to Tejada than when comparing Tejada to Reyes. Ceetar wrote: Walking less. striking out more. B-R lists him at 88 OPS+. It's been a shit second half for everybody, especially a guy who got hurt. Tejada is, indeed, 12th on a good list of valid complaints.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 02:41 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Never thought Id get to use this one. TY Torres.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 02:45 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

RE-SIGN TORRES!!

seawolf17 Oct 03 2012 02:46 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Difficult rooting for the Mets on my own twitter account while also actively rooting for Koehler on the Stony Brook account.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 02:53 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

That may be it for Wright. And, I don't really think so, but it may be it-it.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 02:54 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 02:56 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Way to unpack the suitcase, Z.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 03:01 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

And with that 20th jack... Scott Hairston has officially priced himself out of the Mets' picture. Congratulations to Scott. Look at his teammates surrounding him. You KNOW they're happy for him. The couldn't BE happier. Everybody is.... OH! There's Justin Turner with the pieface!

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2012 03:03 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Edgy DC wrote: Mets fans, MLB [crossout]hears you[/crossout] realizes they couldn't sell this game even if they sprinkled a combination of crack cocaine and chocolate frosting on it, and has therefore elected to make today's game free through mlb.tv. Fixed it for you

Zvon Oct 03 2012 03:24 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Edgy DC wrote: Way to unpack the suitcase, Z. Ha, yea, everything must go! Will me saying Hefners pitching a fine game be whammy inducing?

Zvon Oct 03 2012 03:28 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2012 03:31 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ike picks the final day of the season to start going opposite field. His double kicked up chalk on the LF line and the HR just snuck in inside the LF foul pole. That's either a nice fluke or a nice sign.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 03:34 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Frayed Knot wrote: Ike picks the final day of the season to start going opposite field. His double kicked up chalk on the LF line and the HR just snuck in inside the LF foul pole. That's either a nice fluke or a nice sign. Its a fluking nice sign.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 03:35 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

OH, Muffy fields a tuffy.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 03:39 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Surprised to see Hef out there in the sixth.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 03:41 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Oh, and Wright is out.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 03:51 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Tejada with 3 hits today including his 26th double. Now batting .289.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 03:55 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Edgy DC wrote: Surprised to see Hef out there in the sixth. More so in the 7th.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:01 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Justin legs out his first triple in the bigs. Nice poke off the wall in center.

duan Oct 03 2012 04:07 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

doff of the cap to whomever (G-FAFIF I assume) is quoting Primo Levi. He's one of my favourite authors. Obviously everything's translated, so it isn't the same as devouring Auster or Irving, but his grasp of humanity is incredible.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:08 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Duda gets beaned and I do believe that's the first time Ive ever seen him really smile. It hit him square on the back of the helmet as he was turning away, slow on ducking, and knocked the helmet off. Didn't look bad but he will take a seat with the other head damaged Mets.

Ashie62 Oct 03 2012 04:09 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Are we dead yet?

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:13 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Lead off triple, then we load the bases, and , of course, end up with nothing to show for it.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:24 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

That's all for Hef. Nice job kid. Drumroll please as I hijack this IGT to celebrate my 12000th post here at the Pool! No applause please. Please, please, sit down my friends. I thank you all for your wonderful company in supporting this sometimes wonderful team.

bmfc1 Oct 03 2012 04:26 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Off-season to do list: get catchers that can catch the baseball. It's part of the job description.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:29 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

bmfc1 wrote: Off-season to do list: get catchers that can catch the baseball. It's part of the job description. And pitchers who can pitch. Pitching does involve getting the ball somewhere over the plate.

Gwreck Oct 03 2012 04:33 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Manny Acosta? Late in the game with the bases loaded? There's no way this can go badly.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:36 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Going from Ramirez to Acosta is like going from a toaster to a toaster oven.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:38 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Valde Ks. Yep, I'm using whatever I got today folks.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:46 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

WOW! What a play by Parnell and Ike.

themetfairy Oct 03 2012 04:50 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Books! And with that, it's the offseason.

Zvon Oct 03 2012 04:53 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

So, Mets, win the one that's left and make me look more prescient than I could possibly be in real life. You made the call! Season over. Please drive home safely

bmfc1 Oct 03 2012 04:59 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

G-Fafif will have the ball to open the '13 season... you don't mess with a winning streak.

Kong76 Oct 03 2012 04:59 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ashie62 wrote: Are we dead yet? The Mets, the forum, or the country if Mitt gets elected?

Zvon Oct 03 2012 05:16 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ill close with my last unused graphic of the year. That's all folks. Don't fret. I'll be playing here all winter

Ashie62 Oct 03 2012 05:23 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Kong76 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Are we dead yet? The Mets, the forum, or the country if Mitt gets elected? Maybe a change of president will changthe Mets Karma. Gonna be a very close election.

Met Hunter Oct 03 2012 05:39 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ashie62 wrote: Are we dead yet? Put Mush into the bathroom. Flushing BAY.

Kong76 Oct 03 2012 06:33 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Are we dead yet? The Mets, the forum, or the country if Mitt gets elected? Maybe a change of president will changthe Mets Karma. Gonna be a very close election. And for the record, I'm not endorsing the other clown. That little dude in the picture reminds me of that guy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest who wanted his cigarettes.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2012 08:31 PM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Nice.

Fman99 Oct 04 2012 04:00 AM Re: IGT 10/3/2012: NYM @ MIA -- If Not Now, When?

Zvon wrote: Valde Ks. Yep, I'm using whatever I got today folks. I approve of this message.