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ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 03:33 PM

GAME 1 ARod in lineup, batting 6th. All other news shrinks in comparison Pettitte vs Fister Fister?, I hardly kn .... Fister [28 y/o; 10-10; 3.45; 1.19] faced the opponents once this year and pitched to a ND on August 9th. The opponents won the game after Fister was removed when (say it with me folks) they hit back to back HRs in the 8th (Teixeira & Chavez) Pettitte [40; 5-4; 2.87; 1.14] did not face the Tigers this year.

Ashie62 Oct 13 2012 04:47 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Gotta root for a guy a Fister.

themetfairy Oct 13 2012 05:32 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Ich bin ein Tigers fan.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 07:27 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Not that I trust that 'Pitch Box' that TBS uses constantly to be complete accurate, and not that Fister hasn't created some of his own problems all by himself ... but jeez have the Tigers gotten one borderline call yet tonight?!? Just sayin'

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 08:22 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Fister going on another one of his K barrages. That's four in a row now on the heels of the 9 in a row he had a month ago against KC. Helps that he's not getting screwed on the calls like he was earlier in the game. oe: and there goes the streak as I'm typing.

Fman99 Oct 13 2012 08:39 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Delmon Young solo shot puts the good guys up 3-0 in the eighth. I'm enjoying the shit out of game 1 thus far.

themetfairy Oct 13 2012 08:44 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Garcia's RBI single makes it 4-0 Tiggers!

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 09:03 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

I'm betting that Austin Jackson is the only MLer ever to have his name consist of two state capitals. Unless there was like some native american from a bunch of years back named Little Rock Tallahassee or something. Why yes, I am in need of serious professional help.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 13 2012 09:07 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

POP QUIZ: What percentage of MFY "fans" watching this are verbally expressing a wish to have Jackson instead of Granderson right now? How many of those have no idea that their team traded Jackson to get Granderson?

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 09:13 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: POP QUIZ: What percentage of MFY "fans" watching this are verbally expressing a wish to have Jackson instead of Granderson right now? How many of those have no idea that their team traded Jackson to get Granderson? And how many are complaining in part because Granderson doesn't play enough "small ball" to suit them, as if they'd somehow be better off it they could trade in his 40-whatever HRs for more bunts and fewer Ks? And remember also about that trade that Phil Coke was the throw in. And then there was Ian Kennedy who wound up in Phoenix by the time the whole thing was done.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 09:19 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Good thing the Tigers got those two late runs because I don't trust Valverde as far as I can throw him ... and nobody can throw that big load very far.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 09:26 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

So what do you think, this game about a 50/50 toss-up at this point?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2012 09:35 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

what the fuck

themetfairy Oct 13 2012 09:37 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Holy shit....

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 09:38 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

The only real surprise is that it's the same fuckin' guy each time - and that he's 65 years old. Usually when you've got a bench that goes 13 deep with guys who can hit 20+/yr they simply take turns.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 09:44 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Is Soriano going to read the inside of his fucking hat and write something into the ground between each pitch? No wonder these games take 5 hours.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 10:08 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Wasn't the move to PR for Granderson a bit ... odd? I mean, since when did Granderson require a runner?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2012 10:23 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

This is gonna suck

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 13 2012 10:46 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Well, hey, maybe the folks behind the dugout/in left field/everywhere in the stadium DID know what they would eventually miss.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 10:48 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

If the Tigers can get either or both of these runs in I give them an even shot at winning the game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2012 10:51 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

I bet you a million dollars his achilles just tore.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 10:52 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: This is gonna suck Not sucking at the moment. Of course things could change at any time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 13 2012 10:58 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Well, hey, maybe the folks behind the dugout/in left field/everywhere in the stadium DID know what they would eventually miss. Derek Jeter's last game, apparently. Yikes.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 10:59 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Well, hey, maybe the folks behind the dugout/in left field/everywhere in the stadium DID know what they would eventually miss. Derek Jeter's last game, apparently. Yikes. Couldn't tell what that was, but it didn't look good for the home folks. Ankle maybe?

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 11:01 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Now here is where the Granderson switch-out comes into play. If Swisher gets on (well, he didn't as I type) then you've got essentially the worst HR hitter on the team in Gardner as the tying run instead of your best HR hitter. Just thought that was an odd play is all.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2012 11:04 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

So was that result better in the long run than if they closed out the 9th all clean and easy? I dunno. I would have opted for the easy way even if Yanx wind up more demoralized by it all in the end.

G-Fafif Oct 13 2012 11:28 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Jeter's ankle fractured, out for rest of postseason. Most devastating MFY injury since Rivera went out and MFYs had to settle for division title, best record in league. Or maybe since Babe Ruth contracted the clap and they went on a forty-year dynastic run.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2012 12:03 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

It's a lot more fun to root against the MFYs with a healthy Jeter in the fold.

TransMonk Oct 14 2012 02:22 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old.

smg58 Oct 14 2012 06:04 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Wow this has been a terrible couple of days for closers. I need to stop going to bed early.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 14 2012 08:09 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

TransMonk wrote: Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old. Luckily they have a guy who can play shortstop who is only 37 years old.

Ceetar Oct 14 2012 08:32 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It's a lot more fun to root against the MFYs with a healthy Jeter in the fold. Cause you can hope he fails and his postseason numbers drop.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2012 09:00 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Mets – Willets Point wrote: TransMonk wrote: Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old. Luckily they have a guy who can play shortstop who is only 37 years old. Girardi immediately ruled out moving Rodriguez over to SS. Not only has it been years for him but, hell, he can't even commit to keeping him in the batting order at his point. Jayson (what's that Y doing in there?) Nix, who filled in for the last inning last night, can play SS and Eduaro Nunez, who was inactive for this series due to the Tigers mostly RH hurlers, was added to the roster to replace St. Derek of Jeteria. Nunez is a better hitter than Jeter at this point so it's not like they're going to lose anything there (unless you subscribe to the whole clutch factor thing) but he's a butcher in the field. Maybe you'll see him during Sabathia's game(s) on the theory of more Ks means fewer ground balls to boot.

Ceetar Oct 14 2012 09:33 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: TransMonk wrote: Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old. Luckily they have a guy who can play shortstop who is only 37 years old. Nunez is a better hitter than Jeter at this point so it's not like they're going to lose anything there (unless you subscribe to the whole clutch factor thing) but he's a butcher in the field. Maybe you'll see him during Sabathia's game(s) on the theory of more Ks means fewer ground balls to boot. Nunez fields more balls too though, so it's probably a wash defensively. He's not as good a hitter though, in fact he's pretty bad. had decent numbers in his small ML stint this year, but was horrible in the minors.

Swan Swan H Oct 14 2012 09:47 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Matthews and the other hacks have already written their stories for this series: If the Yankees win they rallied together, 25 men playing as one to win it for their fallen captain If the Tigers win it proves that Jeter is indispensable I need hockey. NOW!

Ceetar Oct 14 2012 10:34 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Swan Swan H wrote: Matthews and the other hacks have already written their stories for this series: If the Yankees win they rallied together, 25 men playing as one to win it for their fallen captain If the Tigers win it proves that Jeter is indispensable I need hockey. NOW! Jesse Spector wrote: Good news is that Derek Jeter is now free to mediate NHL labor talks. Gift basket to the side that makes concessions first.

metsguyinmichigan Oct 14 2012 11:38 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Heck, the Yankees now will be able to use a shortstop who actually has range.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2012 01:14 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

I caught about 45 minutes of FAN after the game last night (as late as it was I was a bit too keyed up still to sleep) and, in addition to the expected main topic which was speaking of Jeter in funeral-like tones -- "he would have wanted the Yanquis to go on" ... well, shit, he isn't dead, it's just a fuckin' injury. Clubs deal with them and go on ... y'know, like the Orioles had to without Markakis -- the biggest theme of the night was Swisher and man was he getting creamed! Now obviously he deserves a lot of it: he isn't hitting; there were two catchable balls his way that led to runs; etc., but it went beyond that. Suddenly his goofy-guy act isn't funny anymore; fans are convinced that the fact that he hasn't hit in October means he never will, he's a fuckin' clown who shouldn't be re-signed, and so on. Girardi was getting his share as well, mostly for the usual crime of not making any of his 30 HR/yr guys bunt more often.

Ceetar Oct 14 2012 01:27 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

[url]http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/how_much_does_losing_jeter_hurt_the_yankees_on_paper/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter So there you have it folks. Jeter is not worth any more to the Yankees than Jayson Nix.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2012 02:59 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Sanchez and Kuroda throwing darts. Through three complete in about 50 minutes. What is, actual baseball?

MFS62 Oct 14 2012 03:04 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Ceetar wrote: So there you have it folks. Jeter is not worth any more to the Yankees than Jayson Nix. That might be worth its weight in gold when the Yankee fans in my office want to use his injury as an excuse for losing. Later

bmfc1 Oct 14 2012 04:36 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Not that I'm complaining, but that's an awful call in favor of Detroit. And it ends up costing the MFYs 2 runs.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 14 2012 05:27 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

We're takin to Detroy-oy-oyt! Comin out of New York, Detroit!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2012 05:36 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

With-- Ye Gods-- Verlander looming in Game 3. I [crossout]almost feel sorry for[/crossout] look forward to virtually every encounter I'll have with MFY fans over the next few days.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2012 05:49 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Yanx got royally screwed on that call ... and I don't care. Not to continually dwell on the Jeter injury or anything, but wasn't it nice to hear a telecast without every play by the SS being touted as if not only great but one only that SS could have made with such verve and panache? Peralta & Nix each made a couple of plays that, while not great, were nice little tricky, well-made plays, but none of them were fawned over like they [crossout]might[/crossout] would have been had it been ol' whatisname out there. The ARod & Swisher verbal beatings likely to continue tonight and straight through for the next 48 hours until the next game. Cano has been just as awful but he's got a bit more equity built up and has no obvious replacement. No surprise that all Yanqui runs so far in the series (all four of them) via the HR. Cue more calls for Girardi to start bunting.

metirish Oct 14 2012 06:56 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Love you first line there FK........it's a joy to behold watching them lose. Leyland handled the closer question perfectly I thought, he's still my closer, we need him but he's getting a rest tonight,went with Coke and stayed with him, nice. As an aside, Olbermann has been claiming on twitter that he is NOT a MFY fan, only a costumer....the guy is nuts.

Fman99 Oct 14 2012 07:08 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

This series is going so well it gives me a boner.

G-Fafif Oct 15 2012 05:45 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Nick Swisher whining about MFYS III hostility toward him to the Snooze reads like an Onion story almost. My favorite part is his sudden realization that MFYS III isn't Care Bear Village. Nick Swisher’s relationship with the fans at Yankee Stadium — especially his beloved Bleacher Creatures in right field — admittedly has taken more hits in these playoffs than he’s managed at the plate. Swisher is mired in his fourth consecutive postseason slump since joining the Yankees, and the pending free agent has been noticeably stung that the fans booed their one-time favorite and several teammates throughout most of the back-to-back home losses Saturday and Sunday against the Tigers. “As the game progresses, you’re trying to go up there and get a hit. If you don’t, people let you know about it,” said Swisher, who is batting .154 with one RBI through seven postseason games this October. “It’s a tough spot. Hey man, I guess that’s playing in New York... That’s New York for you. “It’s a crazy game. Being here in New York, obviously there’s a lot of expectations. I don’t know what to say, bro. I’m just going to kind of let it go.” But the always gregarious Swisher couldn’t let it go, especially since he believes some fans made it personal with verbal attacks this weekend aimed at him and several inappropriate tweets about him to his wife, actress JoAnna Garcia. “(Saturday) night was pretty big. A lot of people saying a lot of things that I’ve never heard before,” Swisher said. “Prime example - I missed that ball in the lights and the next thing you know, I’m the reason that (Derek) Jeter got hurt. It’s kind of frustrating. They were saying it was my fault.” Swisher, who may have played his final home game as a Yankee if the series doesn’t return to New York, normally does an emphatic military salute to the Bleacher Creatures during their customary first-inning roll call, but he admittedly took warm-up throws closer to the infield and noticeably toned down his interaction with those fans during Sunday’s 3-0 loss. “That’s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,” said Swisher, who is an unfathomable 1-for-34 with runners in scoring position in his postseason career. “Especially your home, where your heart is, where you’ve been battling and grinding all year long. It’s just frustrating, man. You never want to be in that spot. It’s not like you’re trying to go out there and do bad on purpose. It’s just tough, man. “It hurts. Sometimes I’m a sensitive guy and some of the things people say, they get under your skin a little bit. I’ve been lucky to be here for the past four years, bro. We’re not going to go out like this. We’re going to go to Detroit and give everything we’ve got.” Swisher even allowed that it might be beneficial to the Yankees to get away from the Bronx for the next three games - well, two, at least - after the hostile reception they’ve received at times from the home crowd while struggling to produce runs in the postseason. “Maybe, man. I’ve been so fortunate to be here and play every day. When things kind of turn like that, it kind of hurts a little bit,” Swisher said. “This is the type of city and crowd that really rallies around their team. That’s the reason we’ve got 27 championships. To go through a stretch like this where it’s kind of a negative attitude, a negative type setting, that’s tough. But hey, that’s part of the game. Rightfully so. There are a lot of expectations here and I guess when you don’t get the job done, you’re going to hear about it. “I’m one of those guys that if you give me a hug, I’ll run through a brick wall for you, man. It just seems right now like there’s just a lot of... I’m trying to find a way to word this the right way. . . . It’s tough. It’s really tough. You want to go out and play for your city, play for your team. Right now, it’s just really tough.”

bmfc1 Oct 15 2012 05:57 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Good thing he's strategizing about how to minimize the reaction during the "roll call" rather than thinking about the game. Maybe if those mean fans give him a hug (bro), he'd play better.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2012 11:24 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

I haven't listened to Francesa more than a handful of times all year, but I tuned in today to hear what road he was going to take on the Yanx -- and he was surprisingly tough on his team. - Yes Jeter's injured but all teams have hurdles they have to overcome. He didn't add that we hear nothing about how they just squeaked by a team missing Markakis who is a much bigger part of the O's offense than Jeter is to the Yanx, so I'll do it here. - Yes the ump's call sucked but the Yanx have gotten plenty go their way over the years so you can't yell foul now. Get over it and hit. - Complaining about Cano not hustling and looking lax on defense sounds hollow now when no one gets on him when he does those things all year as long as he's hitting - empty seats in the stadium were 'covered up' for TV purposes. He claims entire sections that were empty in the 3rd inning were suddenly filled by the 6th - Why is Swisher surprised (see GF's above post) to discover that the fans aren't happy with him? - You want breaks? Make you own!

metsmarathon Oct 15 2012 12:34 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

“That’s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,” said Swisher wow, yeah, i mean, who would ever think new york fans would be hard on a struggling athlete. that like never happens. ever.

Ceetar Oct 15 2012 12:46 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

metsmarathon wrote: “That’s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,” said Swisher wow, yeah, i mean, who would ever think new york fans would be hard on a struggling athlete. that like never happens. ever. It's like he's completely oblivious to everything about the A-Rod/Yankees fan relationship. This is shaping up to be a pretty horrific ending to the season for the Yankees. not selling out, ushers moving fans into empty seats so it looks better, guys making postseason outs at historic paces, not hitting, Jeter getting hurt. I think we're one rampant steroid allegation from George rising from the grave to stir up some chaos.

metsmarathon Oct 15 2012 01:03 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Ceetar wrote: metsmarathon wrote: “That’s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,” said Swisher wow, yeah, i mean, who would ever think new york fans would be hard on a struggling athlete. that like never happens. ever. It's like he's completely oblivious to everything about the A-Rod/Yankees fan relationship. This is shaping up to be a pretty [crossout]horrific[/crossout] terrific ending to the season for the Yankees. not selling out, ushers moving fans into empty seats so it looks better, guys making postseason outs at historic paces, not hitting, Jeter getting hurt. I think we're one rampant steroid allegation from George rising from the grave to stir up some chaos. fixed it for you

Ceetar Oct 15 2012 01:04 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

terrifically horrific.

metirish Oct 16 2012 06:04 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Rodriguez just keeps on giving....... A-rod plays field Hits on gals at ALCS game By EMILY SMITH Last Updated: 7:50 AM, October 16, 2012 Posted: 3:36 AM, October 16, 2012 He’s got balls. Shameless Yankee slugger Alex Rodriguez was playing so poorly against the Detroit Tigers Saturday night that he was yanked from the lineup — but that didn’t stop him from trying to score. After being replaced in the bottom of the eighth inning in Game 1 of the American League Championship Series, the highest-paid Yankee openly flirted with a pair of pretty women two rows behind the dugout — even sending them a ball bearing a note asking for their phone numbers, a witness told The Post. “I watched him flirt with two admittedly very cute young women nearby,’’ the witness said. Instead of rooting on his teammates as they struggled to stay alive during the tense game at Yankee Stadium, A-Rod, 37, had a ball boy toss the young women a baseball inscribed with a message asking for their numbers. “Alex was holding a pen and wrote a note on a ball which was thrown at the women by a ball boy,’’ the witness explained. “The girls, who had already caught two balls, seemed bemused at first and tried to hand the ball to another fan, but other fans noticed the note on it and yelled at them to read it. “The note asked them to write their phone numbers on the ball and throw it back,’’ the witness said. “One of the girls, with darker blond hair, wrote . . . on the ball and threw it back at A-Rod, who gave her a big smile.” “They exchanged a few glances after that,’’ as A-Rod took a powder while a pinch-hitter took his place at the plate. Raul Ibanez performed under pressure, tying the score in the bottom of the ninth. In the 12th, team captain Derek Jeter broke his ankle — and A-Rod finally wised up, the witness said. “The flirtation stopped once Derek Jeter got hurt,” the source said. The Yanks wound up losing 6-4. They also lost again to the Tigers 3-0 on Sunday. Fans sitting behind the dugout at Saturday’s game said they were disgusted after witnessing A-Rod’s shenanigans, which were more befitting a sixth-grader than a serious ballplayer. “I was absolutely stunned that even . . . A-Rod would not be focusing on such a critical game, supporting his teammates, and was instead more interested in adding another couple of phone numbers to what must be a very, very large collection,’’ one said. A-Rod’s rep referred questions to a team spokesman, who didn’t get back to The Post last night. Rodriguez is currently dating wrestler Torre Wilson. As Page Six revealed last year, Jeter also has used baseball memorabilia to win over the ladies. After bedding a beauty, he’d send her home alone with gift baskets of autographed memorabilia. He is dating model Hannah Davis, who was spotted in his family box Saturday.

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 06:45 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Jeter never would've done that. He would've called up and had an usher take the two woman secretly out back to the clubhouse to wait for him.

metirish Oct 16 2012 06:51 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Ceetar wrote: Jeter never would've done that. He would've called up and had an usher take the two woman secretly out back to the clubhouse to wait for him. Ha! then this “The flirtation stopped once Derek Jeter got hurt,” the source said. of course it did, I'm surprised the world didn't stop.

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 07:17 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

This isn't something _I_ generally judge people for, but many do. Can people (Buzz Bissinger most recently 2 hours ago) un-sarcastically write "Baseball's classiest act" about a guy dating a 22 year old girl 16 years younger than him? Hannah Davis:

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 07:41 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Isn't there some kind of goofy formula for determining the "proper" limit for guys dating younger women? Something like half your age plus 7 years sticks in my head. If that's correct then this 22 y/o would be out of bounds for Jeter: X=(38/2)+7= 26 As for ARod: I've long thought that he gets a lot more abuse than he deserves but, holy sheeeet, he deserves a whole lot of it.

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 07:55 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: Isn't there some kind of goofy formula for determining the "proper" limit for guys dating younger women? Something like half your age plus 7 years sticks in my head. If that's correct then this 22 y/o would be out of bounds for Jeter: X=(38/2)+7= 26 As for ARod: I've long thought that he gets a lot more abuse than he deserves but, holy sheeeet, he deserves a whole lot of it. Yeah, that's the formula that makes its way around. I mean, 18 months ago she couldn't even drink. Or is it somehow 'okay' because she's famous too and famous people exist solely for our entertainment? If it was A-Rod, I can't imagine the media/fans letting it go. And the thing about him is most of this stuff is not that big a deal if he owned it, but he seems so to so desperately want the approval that these things come off so much worse for him. Isn't noticing hot women in the stands one of those things that people are always joking about players doing? And hell, I bet plenty of them have done just what A-Rod did over the years.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2012 08:22 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Buzz Bissinger's transition to full-on douche is just astounding. He spent a few hours last week cursing out people on Twitter in a lame attempt to "support" Lance Armstrong while also making a somehow noteworthy pronouncement that he will vote for Romney this time. I was mildly shocked that didn't come with a birthing/Muslim comment (or maybe it did).

metirish Oct 16 2012 08:26 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: As for ARod: I've long thought that he gets a lot more abuse than he deserves but, holy sheeeet, he deserves a whole lot of it. That's the thing with him isn't it?, he just seems to always do the inappropriate thing , he is so easy to dislike , never mind who he plays for.

seawolf17 Oct 16 2012 08:50 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

He is dating model Hannah Davis, who was spotted in his family box Saturday. OH MY GAWD HANNAH DAVIS IS IN DEREK JETER'S BAWX!

metirish Oct 16 2012 08:51 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Nicely played Wolf.....

MFS62 Oct 16 2012 09:06 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

seawolf17 wrote: He is dating model Hannah Davis, who was spotted in his family box Saturday. OH MY GAWD HANNAH DAVIS IS IN DEREK JETER'S BAWX! (Channelling f-man) And, I'd guess, vice versa. Later

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 10:18 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Buzz Bissinger's transition to full-on douche is just astounding. He spent a few hours last week cursing out people on Twitter in a lame attempt to "support" Lance Armstrong while also making a somehow noteworthy pronouncement that he will vote for Romney this time. I was mildly shocked that didn't come with a birthing/Muslim comment (or maybe it did). Sounds like Bissinger could be one of those later-in-life converts to the right side of the aisle - and, as in just about anything, there are few more committed than a convert. But back in his 'Friday Night Lights' days (1988) I seem to recall a chapter where, in describing the whole Odessa/Midland area, he essentially calls the folks who live there a bunch of dopes for supporting GHW Bush's presidential run while being too stupid to realize that his policies were all bad for them.

Lefty Specialist Oct 16 2012 12:11 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

This isn't something _I_ generally judge people for, but many do. Can people (Buzz Bissinger most recently 2 hours ago) un-sarcastically write "Baseball's classiest act" about a guy dating a 22 year old girl 16 years younger than him? Hannah Davis: You know, I'd let her break my ankle. Nightly.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 02:23 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Donald Trump, as usual, thinks the Yanqui struggles are all about him. According to what passes for news in the NYPost, a story says that Trump is tweeting and yapping to anyone who'll listen that the reason Jeter is hurt and ARod isn't so good anymore is because neither owns property with him like they used to. Jeter completed the sale of his Trumpaholic place just last week. On to [u:192hrvpw]Game 3[/u:192hrvpw] Verlander is actually just 1-1 in 3 starts against the Yanx this season - took a No-Decision against them on April 27: 5 runs (4 earned) on 7 hits over 6. HRs by Rodriguez & Martin. Yanx won it walk-off style in the 9th - got hung with a loss at home on June 3rd: 5 runs (3 earned) on 9 hits + 4 BBs over 6.1 IP. HRs by ARod again plus Jeter leading off the game - before finally getting a 'W' on Aug 6th: 2 runs (both unearned) on 9 hits over 8 IP w/14 Ks Guy needs to do something about his defense. Phil Hughes was 1-1 vs Detroit in 2 starts: - tossed a CG against Verlander in the June 3rd game, allowing just 1 run on 4 hits, 8 Ks & 3 BBS - then lost on August 7th, giving up 4 runs on 8 hits in 4.1 IPs and taking 102 pitches just to get that far. Yanx got two in the 9th off Valverde in this game too but fell a run short as Granderson popped-out with 2 on. I predict no Jeter HRs tonight.

Fman99 Oct 16 2012 03:00 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Ceetar wrote: Jeter never would've done that. He would've called up and had an usher take the two woman secretly out back to the clubhouse to wait for him. That's nothing. Whitey Ford used to beat off into styrofoam cups and hand them out to "lucky fans." Talk about getting a little piece of Whitey to take home with you, yeesh.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 16 2012 03:25 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Then there is classy, all-American Yankee Mickey Mantle's favorite memory.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 03:39 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Then there is classy, all-American Yankee Mickey Mantle's favorite memory. So are we talking about multiple blow jobs here from the entire bull pen or did the relief corps simply take turns on a single blow job? Inquiring minds want to know but, sadly, Mick isn't clear on this point.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 03:41 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

ARod - NOT in the starting lineup for game 3 Swisher - NOT in the starting lineup for game 3 Eric Chavez to start as is Brett 'I haven't started since April' Gardner

bmfc1 Oct 16 2012 04:36 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Rodriguez now has more time to hit on women in the crowd.

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 04:40 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

bmfc1 wrote: Rodriguez now has more time to hit on women in the crowd. There will actually be people in the stands to hit on too.

metirish Oct 16 2012 04:54 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: ARod - NOT in the starting lineup for game 3 Swisher - NOT in the starting lineup for game 3 Eric Chavez to start as is Brett 'I haven't started since April' Gardner wow, Swisher has really helped his Free Agency with post-season. He has been awful in the post-season forever http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ni01.shtml

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 07:49 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Hughes randomly developed a case of 'ouch', taken out of the game, but presumably added to the list of Yankees Yankees fans now detest.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 07:52 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Cabrera's hits seem to employ some kind of booster rocket in mid-flight. Shit he's scary!

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 08:01 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: Cabrera's hits seem to employ some kind of booster rocket in mid-flight. Shit he's scary! you could always pitch around him to get to Fielder!

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 08:12 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

This game seems like the score should be greater than 2-0 I hate games when I get that feeling because the game is really still on the edge even though I'm ready to prematurely put it in the Win column.

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 08:40 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: This game seems like the score should be greater than 2-0 I hate games when I get that feeling because the game is really still on the edge even though I'm ready to prematurely put it in the Win column. especially when it leaves the door open for the Yankees. Verlander at 101 through 7. And seemingly less effective. I don't know how much longer you go with him.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 08:44 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

As long as he wants.

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 08:46 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: As long as he wants. well yes, but when is it no longer the most effective decision?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2012 08:57 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

As long as the Tigers hang on and win, I like that Opponent wastes every arm for Game 4 in pursuit of being 2-hit. Yes, I want a sweep.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 09:10 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Verlander after ~110 pitches > Papa Fatty at 0 pitches

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 09:15 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: Verlander after ~110 pitches > Papa Fatty at 0 pitches I tend to agree, it's just that he threw a ton of pitches in both ALDS games and seemed to maybe be tiring a bit.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 09:21 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

It's such an advantage to the Yanx to have an iconic SS on their side to make run-saving plays in the field and then hit HRs in the 9th inning ... Oh wait.

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 09:23 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Let's hope that Coke is the real thing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2012 09:28 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Lucky hit by Texy, but Cano is dangerous

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 09:29 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

I'd like him to teach the Yanx to suck in perfect harmony

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2012 09:31 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

sweat

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2012 09:36 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

strike 3

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 09:36 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: sweat Sweet!

Ceetar Oct 16 2012 09:37 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Yankees wish they were playing a team like the 2004 Yankees now.

themetfairy Oct 16 2012 09:38 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Whew!

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2012 09:38 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

That inning was [bigpurple:3atfa1u4]HUGE[/bigpurple:3atfa1u4] The difference between being up 3-0 and just 2-1 with Sabathia on the mound can't be over-stated.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2012 09:39 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Yup. Phil Coke > Grandymancan

MFS62 Oct 16 2012 10:01 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: It's such an advantage to the Yanx to have an iconic SS on their side to make run-saving plays in the field and then hit HRs in the 9th inning ... Oh wait. They obviously miss the inspiration Jeter gave them. So here's an idea. Each MFY can tape a Jeter baseball card to a brick and shove it up their ass. Later

Ashie62 Oct 16 2012 10:10 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

I am waiting for a rumor that Jeter will sack up for game 4.

Nymr83 Oct 17 2012 06:25 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Really loving this Tigers series so far!

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2012 06:32 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

The opponents have been 'Goose-egged' in 28 of the 30 innings played so far. And, even though it's so obvious it hardly needs to be said, all their runs have come via HRs

bmfc1 Oct 17 2012 06:39 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Jeter's BFF Ian O'Connor said somewhere yesterday that there could be a "dark period" ahead for the MFYs.

Ceetar Oct 17 2012 06:45 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

bmfc1 wrote: Jeter's BFF Ian O'Connor said somewhere yesterday that there could be a "dark period" ahead for the MFYs. the writers seem to smell blood in the water. But of course, if they manage to not continue a downward spiral to three decades of mediocrity, they'll be the first to praise the process.

themetfairy Oct 17 2012 06:49 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Justin Verlander, American Hero!

seawolf17 Oct 17 2012 07:02 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

metirish Oct 17 2012 07:37 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Nice graph, but let's not put the Mets up there for either time period.

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2012 07:59 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Jeter's BFF Ian O'Connor said somewhere yesterday that there could be a "dark period" ahead for the MFYs. the writers seem to smell blood in the water. But of course, if they manage to not continue a downward spiral to three decades of mediocrity, they'll be the first to praise the process. Yeah, I think we're going to hear a lot of talk along these lines in the near future even if for no other reason than to say that you were the first to say so if/when it does happen. But between the age of the roster, the injuries (not unrelated to the age thing), the questionable sign/don't sign choices (Swisher, Granderson, Cano), the lack of ready talent on the farm (last year's hot pitchers all went backwards and/or got injured), the one title in a now 12 year span (barring the unthinkable), a possible sweep (the first during this era I believe), and maybe even just a plain running out of luck and good fortune, it is a logical view to take even if a bit dangerous for a team that's better able than any other to restock and reload at the drop of a hat - a hat containing a few hundred million dollars that is. When they missed the playoffs in '08 their response was to drop a half-billion $$ or so on FAs.

Ceetar Oct 17 2012 08:02 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

George isn't here anymore though. These Yankee owners (not that this wasn't George's main priority too) want to make money, and the luxury tax seems to be something they don't want to deal with.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 17 2012 08:03 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

I think they money they want to make is what they will receive for selling the team... NOW!!!!

MFS62 Oct 17 2012 08:25 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Ashie62 wrote: I am waiting for a rumor that Jeter will sack up for game 4. He will slowly pull himself up out of the chair and say "Mr. President, I can walk!" If not, the motivational speech in the clubhouse tonight will be "Win one for the backhand flipper". Later

metsmarathon Oct 17 2012 08:34 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think they money they want to make is what they will receive for selling the team... NOW!!!! any chance of getting the wilpons to buy?

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2012 01:39 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

btw, I meant to mention this the other night so I better do so now as it's looking increasingly like the next meaningful baseball game to be played in the Bronx is going to be next April: - How great was it that Smoltz must have referred to the little league dimensions of YSIII about 46 times during the course of those first two games?

metirish Oct 17 2012 03:20 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, I meant to mention this the other night so I better do so now as it's looking increasingly like the next meaningful baseball game to be played in the Bronx is going to be next April: - How great was it that Smoltz must have referred to the little league dimensions of YSIII about 46 times during the course of those first two games? Man, I loved Smoltz for that , he was unrelenting about the pace.

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2012 05:05 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

[u:1phqkalo]Game 4[/u:1phqkalo] Sabathia vs Scherzer Scherzer [16-7; 3.74; 1.27] was, along with CF Austin Jackson and Phil 'Two Saves' Coke, was among the haul that Detroit got for trading Curtis Granderson. And that would be the Curtis Granderson who isn't starting tonight. He's sitting in favor of Brett Gardner and, once again, Eric Chavez is in for ARod.

Kong76 Oct 17 2012 06:10 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

This game would have started on time if it wasn't the Opponent.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 17 2012 06:19 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Kong76 wrote: This game would have started on time if it wasn't the Opponent. What's the excuse for the delay?

seawolf17 Oct 17 2012 06:22 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

They're waiting until the Cap'n is fully healed. And until Verlander retires.

Ashie62 Oct 17 2012 07:08 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

There is a front that will hit Detroit or miss in about 1/2 hour. Sager says if it rains game will be cancelled. If it misses baseball will be played tonight..

Kong76 Oct 17 2012 07:21 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Stupidest delay in the history of stupid delays.

Fman99 Oct 17 2012 07:45 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Kong76 wrote: Stupidest delay in the history of stupid delays. They scrubbed this game because it might rain. That is just fucking retarded.

Ashie62 Oct 17 2012 08:33 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Same forecast tomorrow. That would be one more day to get the pins out of the Captain's ankle.

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2012 09:33 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Rain started falling about 90 minutes after the scheduled start time of 8 p.m., and a steady rain fell for hours afterward. Major League Baseball officials said the contest was postponed "in an effort to preserve the integrity of an uninterrupted full nine-inning game." More rain is forecast for the Detroit area on Thursday morning, but it is expected to clear up completely around noon.

MFS62 Oct 17 2012 09:48 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: Rain started falling about 90 minutes after the scheduled start time of 8 p.m., and a steady rain fell for hours afterward. Major League Baseball officials said the contest was postponed "in an effort to preserve the integrity of an uninterrupted full nine-inning game." More rain is forecast for the Detroit area on Thursday morning, but it is expected to clear up completely around noon. Where was that integrity when they allowed the NL game to start and then had an over 3 hour rain delay during the game? Or are we not allowed to ask that? Later

Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2012 04:08 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Shhhh!

metirish Oct 18 2012 05:50 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

seawolf17 wrote: They're waiting until the Cap'n is fully healed. And until Verlander retires. Dying over here

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2012 06:50 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

MFS62 wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Rain started falling about 90 minutes after the scheduled start time of 8 p.m., and a steady rain fell for hours afterward. Major League Baseball officials said the contest was postponed "in an effort to preserve the integrity of an uninterrupted full nine-inning game." More rain is forecast for the Detroit area on Thursday morning, but it is expected to clear up completely around noon. Where was that integrity when they allowed the NL game to start and then had an over 3 hour rain delay during the game? Or are we not allowed to ask that? Later To be fair, the rain didn't hit the NL game until the bottom of the 7th whereas in Detroit I think they had a pretty good idea it was coming soon than that. Could they have started anyway? -- Sure, and it would have ended about the 4th inning to be resumed today which would have taken out both starting pitchers. Then they would have had to either push the whole thing back a day anyway or played a game and a half today which brings in the question about what that does to Wednesday ticket holders. No simple solution here. Did the league somehow want to do the AL teams a favor while screwing the NL? -- Not sure why they'd want that. By going ahead with the NL contest it wound up screwing FOX's whole broadcast night to the point where first-run shows were canceled or interrupted and they pay the league a lot more money than what TBS shells out. TBS merely had to throw in a bunch of re-runs plus got to run Conan at his regular hour instead of delayed; it didn't hurt them in the slightest. Does this wind up helping 'the opponents'? -- Probably not. Yeah they were saved from using Sabathia for only half a game but it's not like the Tigers wanted that for Scherzer either. Plus, if the opponents have any chance at pulling this one out they were going to want CC to go in game 7 and now, with game 4 pushed back and the off-day between 5 & 6 removed, his potential start for game 7 just went from the already short 3 days rest down to 2. IOW, Phil Hughes, ladies and gentlemen, is your Game 7 starter for the team with the $200 million payroll!

metirish Oct 18 2012 07:04 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Plus is sets up Verlander to start game 7.......but let's hope they finish it tonight and Verlander gets to start game 1 of the WS. BTW, he is somethign else to watch. and, Darling and Smoltz are a great team.

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2012 07:23 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Well Verlander always was set up for game 7, that hasn't changed because the date of game 7 hasn't changed (unless there are more rain-outs). What has changed is that CC's start moves from Wednesday to Thursday and the potential off-day between games 5 & 6 gets wiped out meaning that a potential Verlander-v-Sabathia match-up for game 7 sees Verlander with [u:1u7abzy6]Two[/u:1u7abzy6] extra days of rest compared to CC instead of just one. Of course this is all just gum-flapping because the good lord in heaven or the lucky chair in your TV room (whichever you choose to worship) won't let things get to that point.

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2012 01:29 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

[u:6yclver7]Game 4 - Take 2[/u:6yclver7] 4:00 TBS Same pitching match-ups and line-ups as the game never started last night -- aka No ARod, no Granderson

Lefty Specialist Oct 18 2012 01:31 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

metirish wrote: Plus is sets up Verlander to start game 7.......but let's hope they finish it tonight and Verlander gets to start game 1 of the WS. BTW, he is somethign else to watch. and, Darling and Smoltz are a great team. Smoltz has surprised me. He's quite easy to listen to, makes good points and has a good sense of humor. He does play well off Ronnie; I didn't think two pitchers in the booth would work but it has. TBS sure beats the pants off of Tim McCranky and Joe 'What do you think, Troy Aikman?' Buck. My only fear is that Ronnie will be lured away from our pop stand of a franchise for Network Bucks. Keith probably fears it, too. Then he'd have to work 150 games a year.

Swan Swan H Oct 18 2012 01:38 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

And on the same day that his season could very well come to an end, NBC has cancelled Animal Practice, the preposterous-looking sitcom starring Nick Swisher's wife JoAnna Garcia-Swisher.

HahnSolo Oct 18 2012 02:38 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Yankee killer (TM Francesa) Delmon Young drives in the first run of the game. 1-0 Tiggers, bottom 2. Scherzer has 4 Ks through 2.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 03:16 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Tuning in from Niamey looking for American glory. Miguel Cabrera sometimes looks like a Venezuelan Don Zimmer.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 03:25 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Avisail Garcia singles in run number two. Assist to Yankee defense. Jeter wouldn't have let that happen. Sure.

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2012 03:33 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Tiggers aren't exactly smacking CC all over the lot, but they are bleeding him to death (or at least as far as the critical list) with bingles, some long counts, and with the help of some shaky MFY IF defense. Gotta be close to 80 pitches thru 3 for Sabathia even though he's only been nicked for 2 runs.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 03:35 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Benching A-Rod... great strategy until you realize... nobody else in your lineup will hit for you either. Girardi either has some dirt on the guy or has a chip on his shoulder the size of Texas. What a maniac.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 03:42 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Kablammo.

Ashie62 Oct 18 2012 03:42 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Yankees descent into hell is in sight.

Kong76 Oct 18 2012 03:48 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

. [bigpurple:24w3pdgo][horseface]CC see ya![/horseface][/bigpurple:24w3pdgo]

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 03:53 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Detroit, I salute you. $99-119 million left on that man's contract.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 04:15 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Detroit sure looked like an excellent team coming out of spring training. They were never the league's juggernaut this season, but they finished strong and sure seem like one of those teams that chose the right time to peak. Wow.

HahnSolo Oct 18 2012 04:20 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Edgy DC wrote: Detroit sure looked like an excellent team coming out of spring training. They were never the league's juggernaut this season, but they finished strong and sure seem like one of those teams that chose the right time to peak. Wow. Looking at them now, it's baffling that they only won 88 games in a crappy division.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 04:27 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

A little early for Scherzer to run out of gas, I fear.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 04:32 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

And we have an A-Rod sighting. And we have an A-Rod out.

metirish Oct 18 2012 04:33 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

wasn't that a beautiful thing?

themetfairy Oct 18 2012 04:52 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

And now our old friend Octavio Dotel is pitching!

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 05:04 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

![/bigpurple]

Swan Swan H Oct 18 2012 05:31 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Why do I have the best wife in the world? She just said "I'll get the dishes. You go inside and watch the Yankees lose."

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 05:33 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Best Yankee beatdown since the Jay Witasick game,

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2012 05:34 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

"Hey honey, is that goose just about cooked yet?"

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2012 05:35 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: "Hey honey, is that goose just about cooked yet?" ""Yes it is dear"

Kong76 Oct 18 2012 05:36 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

George just soiled himself in the after-life.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2012 05:50 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

What in the world are they planning to do this offseason? They've got more hateful dead wood than a Victorian mansion. Their brand took such a tarnishing tonight. The Mets are a team made low by the owners investing all their money in Bernie Madoff. The Yankees are looking for all the world like a team made low by the owners investing all their money in the Yankees.

MFS62 Oct 18 2012 06:09 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

If you've been waiting to listen to Mike Francessa lose it again tomorrow, take some time to listen to Steven A. Smith on ESPN radio (NY). He has been just as bad a moaner as Francessa, but maybe twice as loud. And he uses "we" when referring to the team. It will be fun switching between the shows on my drive to work tomorrow to see who blows a gasket first. Later

Swan Swan H Oct 18 2012 06:16 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Speaking of radio, I got in the car tonight just after it went to 2-0, and got to hear to both homers off of CC. Thanks to XM I could listen to the Tigers, Yankees and ESPN crews call the action, and I had the Detroit guys on for the homers, but after the second home run I was glued to the Bickersons on the Yankee 'cast. It was 6-0, the Yankees had yet to get a hit, and boy was it funereal. Funnier than the comedy channels, for sure.

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2012 06:57 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

MFS62 wrote: If you've been waiting to listen to Mike Francessa lose it again tomorrow, take some time to listen to Steven A. Smith on ESPN radio (NY). He has been just as bad a moaner as Francessa, but maybe twice as loud. And he uses "we" when referring to the team. It will be fun switching between the shows on my drive to work tomorrow to see who blows a gasket first. Later It is NEVER a good time to listen to Steven A. Smith If I needed the escape plans for the coming nuclear holocaust and his was the only station I could tune in I'd skip it and take my chances. Besides, Francesa, when I heard him the other day anyway, wasn't moaning at all - and that was on the day following that horrid call at 2nd base that screwed them. He spent his entire intro that day warning Yanqui fans against moaning telling them they had gotten enough breaks themselves over the years so crying about not getting them now wasn't an option.

themetfairy Oct 18 2012 07:04 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

And there was much rejoicing :)

MFS62 Oct 18 2012 07:16 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

Frayed Knot wrote: Besides, Francesa, when I heard him the other day anyway, wasn't moaning at all - and that was on the day following that horrid call at 2nd base that screwed them. quote] Since that time, he has been beating the Yankees like a rented mule. And screaming while doing it. A really fun listen. Later G-Fafif Oct 18 2012 07:34 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Congratulations to humanity and the Detroit Tigers. themetfairy Oct 18 2012 08:02 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Here's to the Winners! John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 18 2012 08:41 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST I'm gonna miss John and Suzyn, I really am. Caught almost the whole thing by radio driving today. Frayed Knot Oct 19 2012 06:22 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST I always like to check the newspaper the morning after the Yanx get eliminated just to make sure I wasn't the victim of some elaborate prank. So let's see here ... Yup, it really happened! OK, you may all now carry on with your days. Ceetar Oct 19 2012 06:54 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm gonna miss John and Suzyn, I really am. Caught almost the whole thing by radio driving today. I couldn't do it. I listened to the ESPN feed. batmagadanleadoff Oct 19 2012 07:01 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Frayed Knot wrote: I always like to check the newspaper the morning after the Yanx get eliminated just to make sure I wasn't the victim of some elaborate prank. So let's see here ... Yup, it really happened! seawolf17 Oct 19 2012 07:31 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST That Post cover is pretty funny. batmagadanleadoff Oct 19 2012 08:50 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST seawolf17 wrote: Nothing unusual here. This is how it should be. Two good baseball teams in a short series are in a crap-shoot. Thus, a team that makes the playoffs (I'm not counting the new one game WC qualifier as playoffs) has, essentially, a one in eight chance of winning the World series, whether it's the team with the best record in baseball or the wild card team with the worst record. That's how I see it. The Bobby Cox Braves get too much disrespect for supposedly not winning more WS', but they won about as many as they ought to have won. Lefty Specialist Oct 19 2012 09:32 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm gonna miss John and Suzyn, I really am. Caught almost the whole thing by radio driving today. Caught the magical inning listening to the Yankee broadcast, and the schadenfreude was so thick you could cut it with a knife. Sterling knew it was over, and something drained out of his voice. It was like he was slogging through molasses. Defeated. Delicious. By the way, if you've ever heard the radio broadcast of the 10th inning of Game 6 in '86, the same thing happens to Bob Murphy's voice after the Sox tack on a run to make it 5-3. Bob's voice loses the spring in its step as he contemplates a long painful winter. (Spoiler alert: he gets it back and then some a few minutes later.) Mets – Willets Point Oct 19 2012 09:37 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST TIGER, tiger, burning bright In the forests of the night, What immortal hand or eye Could frame thy fearful symmetry? In what distant deeps or skies Burnt the fire of thine eyes? On what wings dare he aspire? What the hand dare seize the fire? And what shoulder and what art Could twist the sinews of thy heart? And when thy heart began to beat, What dread hand and what dread feet? What the hammer? what the chain? In what furnace was thy brain? What the anvil? What dread grasp Dare its deadly terrors clasp? When the stars threw down their spears, And water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile His work to see? Did He who made the lamb make thee? Tiger, tiger, burning bright In the forests of the night, What immortal hand or eye Dare frame thy fearful symmetry? MFS62 Oct 19 2012 09:47 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Lefty Specialist wrote: Caught the magical inning listening to the Yankee broadcast, and the schadenfreude was so thick you could cut it with a knife. Sterling knew it was over, and something drained out of his voice. It was like he was slogging through molasses. Defeated. Delicious. The same thing happened to Yankee Announcer Mel Allen during the last game of the 1963 World Series. Later metirish Oct 19 2012 12:21 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Vic Sage Oct 19 2012 12:42 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST What immortal hand or eye Could frame thy fearful symmetry? What must've been going on with the English language in London during the late 18th century that William Blake thought those 2 lines rhymed? metirish Oct 19 2012 12:48 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Ah, the NY Post Lefty Specialist Oct 19 2012 01:42 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Well, if New Yorkers don't date the Yankees because they're losers, then where exactly does that leave the Mets? At home watching Flash Gordon re-runs? I live in New Jersey, so it's not an issue for me. Edgy MD Oct 19 2012 05:40 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Yeah, the News front cover and the Post front and back covers all leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. The Yankees losing in the playoffs doesn't make them beneath their fans, and it's the typical cheap pandering populism of the tabloids to suggest otherwise. Three and half million saps walked through the turnstiles and dated the team this season and I imagine as many or more will next season. MFS62 Oct 19 2012 09:02 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Lefty Specialist wrote: Well, if New Yorkers don't date the Yankees because they're losers, then where exactly does that leave the Mets? At home watching Flash Gordon re-runs? HEY! I watch Flash Gordon re-runs. When I played sports in high school, my nickname was Flash, not only for my running speed but because my friends knew I liked those old Flash Gordon serial films. When channel 13 showed them as part of fund raiser, I taped them. Later batmagadanleadoff Oct 20 2012 08:57 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Frayed Knot Oct 20 2012 09:45 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Let me guess, those Curtis Granderson vision problems suddenly popped up between the end of his 43 HR season and the beginning of the playoffs, right? Baseball Prospectus did a wonderful skewering of the overly-simplistic Daily News 'Keep 'em or Dump 'em' poll essentially by just letting the results speak for themselves. Mets – Willets Point Oct 20 2012 10:39 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Whoah! Newsday is taking a measured, rational approach that's completely out of line with newspaper tabloid headline writing conventions. Lefty Specialist Oct 20 2012 12:54 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST MFS62 wrote: HEY! I watch Flash Gordon re-runs. When I played sports in high school, my nickname was Flash, not only for my running speed but because my friends knew I liked those old Flash Gordon serial films. When channel 13 showed them as part of fund raiser, I taped them. Later I'm betting that George Steinbrenner was a Big Ming The Merciless fan. G-Fafif Oct 22 2012 12:26 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST Every series thus far but ALCS goes the maximum. The MFYs are a blot on baseball's showcase month and should therefore be contracted. Though I suppose their having imploded will do for now. metsguyinmichigan Oct 22 2012 06:23 PM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST G-Fafif wrote: Every series thus far but ALCS goes the maximum. The MFYs are a blot on baseball's showcase month and should therefore be contracted. Though I suppose their having imploded will do for now. Bad ass! bmfc1 Oct 23 2012 06:23 AM Re: ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST "A good indication it's autumn: the Yankees are cleaning out their lockers."--David Letterman, 10/22/12