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Mets – Willets Point
Oct 25 2012 10:53 AM

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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 25 2012 11:13 AM
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Been upgraded to a CLASS ONE KILLSTORM, Kent Brockman reports.

MFS62
Oct 25 2012 11:18 AM
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The Hurricaine now over Cuba is heading in our direction. The US Weather Service computer models show it moving out to sea as it travels North. International Weather Service models have it heading right over Long Island and Connecticut.
Here's rooting for those good ol' American programmers.

Later

metirish
Oct 25 2012 11:35 AM
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Between this and the election the TV media will be happy



Joan Blackburn, been doing the weather in Ireland since I can remember, the most monotonous person ever, would not be a fit for the up tempo reporting over here.

Swan Swan H
Oct 25 2012 12:09 PM
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Ceetar
Oct 25 2012 01:03 PM
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we getting snow and rain and hurricane and wind and all that? I'm getting excited.

Frayed Knot
Oct 26 2012 06:46 AM
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Latest thing I saw shows the worst of this expected to hit sometime on Monday or Tuesday depending on where specifically in the northeast we're talking about.
I was kind of hoping to see some football games played in that kind of weather (from the safety of my TV of course) but it looks like it'll get here about 24-48 hours too late for any of that fun plus only two games look to be in its path anyway, one in Philly and the Jets home game. All other northeast teams either have the week off or are safely on the road.

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 26 2012 01:12 PM
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How bad is it looking, really?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 26 2012 01:27 PM
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Gonna be a boon for retailers, with plenty of advance notice and a whole weekend to shop before the storm arrives. BUY MILK AND + BREAD FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!! AND BATTERIES!!!! AND ROOFING NAILS!!!!! AND GENERATORS!!!!!

Ceetar
Oct 26 2012 01:33 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Gonna be a boon for retailers, with plenty of advance notice and a whole weekend to shop before the storm arrives. BUY MILK AND + BREAD FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!! AND BATTERIES!!!! AND ROOFING NAILS!!!!! AND GENERATORS!!!!!


beer.

buy beer.

metirish
Oct 26 2012 01:34 PM
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Three term Mike holding a press conference on NYC preparing for Sandy......no large sodas for her.....

NOAA says it has weakened a little.

themetfairy
Oct 26 2012 02:13 PM
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We have a battery-operated margarita machine; we're set.

Ceetar
Oct 26 2012 02:46 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
We have a battery-operated margarita machine; we're set.


make sure you have enough tequila.

themetfairy
Oct 26 2012 02:47 PM
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But of course!

Ceetar
Oct 26 2012 02:49 PM
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Actually that's probably sound advice with or without storms.


mmmm..blue agave..

Ashie62
Oct 26 2012 07:47 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
We have a battery-operated margarita machine; we're set.


Classic!

MFS62
Oct 26 2012 08:50 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Gonna be a boon for retailers, with plenty of advance notice and a whole weekend to shop before the storm arrives. BUY MILK AND + BREAD FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!! AND BATTERIES!!!! AND ROOFING NAILS!!!!! AND GENERATORS!!!!!

If you have to buy a lot of batteries, it means you probably don't have a generator. So, how are you going to keep the milk and eggs from spoiling?

Later

Ceetar
Oct 26 2012 09:01 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Gonna be a boon for retailers, with plenty of advance notice and a whole weekend to shop before the storm arrives. BUY MILK AND + BREAD FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!! AND BATTERIES!!!! AND ROOFING NAILS!!!!! AND GENERATORS!!!!!

If you have to buy a lot of batteries, it means you probably don't have a generator. So, how are you going to keep the milk and eggs from spoiling?

Later


huge fucking ice box.

Ashie62
Oct 26 2012 09:53 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
we getting snow and rain and hurricane and wind and all that? I'm getting excited.



My favorite time to be in a bar.

seawolf17
Oct 27 2012 06:21 PM
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Saw a dude at the grocery store toting five 20-packs... of AA batteries. Good news, friend! Your remote controls will be SET. Your flashlights, not so much.

Kong76
Oct 27 2012 08:10 PM
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Funny thread ... hope it gets funnier

Frayed Knot
Oct 27 2012 09:44 PM
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Ceetar
Oct 27 2012 10:15 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Saw a dude at the grocery store toting five 20-packs... of AA batteries. Good news, friend! Your remote controls will be SET. Your flashlights, not so much.


my flashlight runs on double AAs. also, my cellphone works as a flashlight.

cooby
Oct 28 2012 01:42 PM
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Last week, including yesterday, I was wearing a tee shirt and shorts. We just carved our pumpkin and I had on sweats and a hoodie and I was freezing! Something is definitely on its way.

Oh, and the cats are ultra antsy...

Ceetar
Oct 28 2012 02:25 PM
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cooby wrote:
Last week, including yesterday, I was wearing a tee shirt and shorts. We just carved our pumpkin and I had on sweats and a hoodie and I was freezing! Something is definitely on its way.

Oh, and the cats are ultra antsy...


My cats haven't budged in hours. fast asleep. but I guess I'm a good 20 minutes further from the storm.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 28 2012 02:40 PM
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Swapped out the screen windows for "real" ones in the sunroom and smooshed more silicon into the usual areas. This "room" -- it's a 3-season thing in bad repair that came with the house -- gets wet every time it rains so we don't expect we'll be spared this time, just sort of hoping it's not too bad since that's where we put the stinky cat box & food.

We're a block and a half from the first evacuation zone.

cooby
Oct 28 2012 02:43 PM
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Good luck Widey...I'll be thinking of you, and all of you who are closer than I am.

It's supposed to be right over us by Wednesday, and stall. Goodie.

Kong76
Oct 28 2012 02:47 PM
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Hope ya'll stay dry, 'bucket.
Dude on the news said worst storm in recorded history ....
we'll see ...

Edgy MD
Oct 28 2012 03:56 PM
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I've got liberal leave on Monday and the trains shut down even if I wanted to come in. And it's not supposed to be over Pennsylvania until Wednesday? Sounds like this is going to grind the east coast to a halt for the better part of a week.

Not that our problems amount to a pile of beans, but I've got to get out of the house. I came home Thursday and my wife is already sick of me.

Ceetar
Oct 28 2012 04:09 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I've got liberal leave on Monday and the trains shut down even if I wanted to come in. And it's not supposed to be over Pennsylvania until Wednesday? Sounds like this is going to grind the east coast to a halt for the better part of a week.

Not that our problems amount to a pile of beans, but I've got to get out of the house. I came home Thursday and my wife is already sick of me.


NYC shutting trains shortly, all NJ schools seem to be closed. I think landfall is supposed to be Central/South Jersey tomorrow evening right? finishing like lunch time on Tuesday?

I'm not actually going to have to go to work tomorrow right?

Kong76
Oct 28 2012 04:43 PM
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I feel better, Aikmen's wing man is praying for us all ...

cooby
Oct 28 2012 04:52 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I've got liberal leave on Monday and the trains shut down even if I wanted to come in. And it's not supposed to be over Pennsylvania until Wednesday? Sounds like this is going to grind the east coast to a halt for the better part of a week.

Not that our problems amount to a pile of beans, but I've got to get out of the house. I came home Thursday and my wife is already sick of me.


I think that was an early estimate. We will have our worst of it tomorrow and tomorrow night too.

Ah well, as long as we all have power, I am sure we will keep each other informed! Stay safe everyone!

metirish
Oct 28 2012 06:18 PM
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Kong76
Oct 28 2012 06:43 PM
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Not to be impatient, but they've already been wrong
about today and this evening ...

... I forecast some wind in the morning, 66.66667% chance
of rain ...

... seek shelter!!! NOW!!!

metirish
Oct 28 2012 07:21 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
Not to be impatient, but they've already been wrong
about today and this evening ...

... I forecast some wind in the morning, 66.66667% chance
of rain ...

... seek shelter!!! NOW!!!


really, I expected a lot of crap today....now it's 7pm ish monday....although My9 has it coming in at 2am Tuesday morning.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2012 10:17 PM
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This one isn't going to miss.

MFS62
Oct 29 2012 07:43 AM
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This is not a funny situation for the people who will be flooded or lose power.

Later

cooby
Oct 29 2012 10:05 AM
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That is really true, 62; I think we are all just very nervous.



One more lighter note though: My RIP sound activated tombstone in the front yard is having a blast.

Kong76
Oct 29 2012 10:07 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 29 2012 10:15 AM

The suspense is killing me.
Wish the leaves on my large red maple tree were more turned
so they would blow off and away.

MFS62
Oct 29 2012 10:09 AM
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cooby wrote:
That is really true, 62; I think we are all just very nervous.
One more lighter note though: My RIP sound activated tombstone in the front yard is having a blast.


My wife just put on her makeup, in case she gets interviewed by a TV news crew. It happened to a lot of folks from our town during the snowstorm/ power outages last year.

Later

cooby
Oct 29 2012 10:15 AM
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Now THAT is preparedness! :)

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 29 2012 10:18 AM
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Yeah! Maybe I should do the same!

Ceetar
Oct 29 2012 10:22 AM
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Yoshi's ready.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 29 2012 11:19 AM
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East River. Not up onto the pavement yet, but high for sure. Wind scarier than water at the moment.

metirish
Oct 29 2012 11:23 AM
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Yeah the winds are really picking up here , scary.

cooby
Oct 29 2012 11:32 AM
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Yes, here too...getting some big gusts and pouring rain. And it isn't even really landed yet.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 29 2012 01:34 PM
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Storm-caused crane collapse in midtown, on W. 57th, just across from Carnegie Hall. BetterHalfer is at work in a hotel across the street. I'm having some needed scotch right now while the girl naps.

cooby
Oct 29 2012 01:49 PM
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Is she home safe?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 29 2012 01:57 PM
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No. Working. Right there. (She's management; she went in last night before trains went down, and packed to be there through Wednesday.)

Kong76
Oct 29 2012 02:02 PM
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It will be a miracle if something doesn't go snap, crackle or
pop here!! Dog is all wound up, not a good sign.

cooby
Oct 29 2012 02:06 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
No. Working. Right there. (She's management; she went in last night before trains went down, and packed to be there through Wednesday.)



Aw, poor her!

sharpie
Oct 29 2012 06:53 PM
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Gigantic tree in front of the neighbor's house landed on top of our far smaller tree. Afraid that one will be toast as well.

Kong76
Oct 29 2012 06:57 PM
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Sorry to hear, Cal.
Had local police on for an hour before, had to turn it off.
Trees down everywhere in town.

Kong76
Oct 29 2012 08:09 PM
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Took dog out and there's shingles in back yard. Black ones,
thankfully we have greyish ones.

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 29 2012 08:10 PM
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Sadly, it looks like this storm is living up to the hype. I hope all of you down in New York and New Jersey are doing okay and that the really scary photos are just making things look worse than they really are.

Kong76
Oct 29 2012 08:12 PM
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The water in the city looks like a nightmare

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 29 2012 09:20 PM
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We are fine. Cable is out but power still on. Woman up the street was hit by a falling branch this morning. Friends to the west and east had some water issues but its receding now and radio says winds are slowing. Had to duct tape the sunroom panels but that's holding too. Hoping morning tides aren't too bad hope the rest of you are ok too.

seawolf17
Oct 30 2012 01:38 AM
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There are a lot of things wrong with our house, but apparently the specific location ain't one of them. We lost power from about 3:00 to about 9:00 yesterday, but we're otherwise entirely clear. Leaves all over the place, but no other obvious damage. Really lucked out.

smg58
Oct 30 2012 05:43 AM
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Good morning! Things are actually just fine here We lost power for 45 minutes last night, but we're otherwise up and running.

Edgy MD
Oct 30 2012 07:35 AM
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Came through in one piece.

I wrap up the dogs for a walk, open the door, and they take one look and turn to me with this face that says "Are you INSANE?! I'd sooner explode."

metirish
Oct 30 2012 07:39 AM
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Glad to see that all seems OK in the 'pool....MFS62?

Pelham Bay looks fine, our house is fine, checked the roof etc....and the tree in the backyard is fine....I did walk to the deli this morning and noticed a lot of roof material scattered around our house , not from my roof apparently....I feel really fortunate , very grim around NYC....sad to see.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 30 2012 08:00 AM
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Looks like lower Manhattan took it up the chute. No power below 39th, lots of water damage, subways are screwed. We are fine. Was shocked to awaken to restored cable.

metirish
Oct 30 2012 08:04 AM
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Yeah lower Manhattan looks terrible.....and the devastating fire in Breezy Point...... terrible , the handbags between the mayor of Atlantic City and Gov.Christie is bizarre to say the least , seems both are using this event to air their public laundry.

Kong76
Oct 30 2012 08:47 AM
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Glad to see here and on fb that most 'poolers rode Sandy out
pretty well. Have some clean-up to do this afternoon, but happy
it's cosmetic and not much all things considered.

Nice to see the sun pop out for a half hour before.

sharpie
Oct 30 2012 09:02 AM
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Giant tree that fell prevented us from leaving our house. Various neighbors called 311 (I couldn't get through) and the worst of it was cleared by 11am.

That being said, part of that giant tree is still on top of my car. Have to wait on that.

Otherwise, fine, kept power.

themetfairy
Oct 30 2012 10:02 AM
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On the bad side, we lost electricity, phone and internet. It could be a week before they return.

On the good side, we have hot and cold water, there was no flooding, and we only lost one branch in the backyard (nowhere near the house).

We're hanging out at D-Dad's office today. Once we go home, I'm not sure how long it will be before we have communications access again.

cooby
Oct 30 2012 10:04 AM
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Glad to see that those who have checked in are safe, though maybe shaken.

Nymr83
Oct 30 2012 10:16 AM
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Power lost somewhere during the 1st quarter last night and hasn't come back yet, everything else seems fine

Frayed Knot
Oct 30 2012 11:21 AM
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Are all the kids from 'Jersey Shore' OK because, you know, that's really the important thing.

Fman99
Oct 30 2012 11:25 AM
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Upstate NY got off easy as the storm turned more west than northwest. Not enough to spare me a leaky bedroom window, service call tomorrow morning.

themetfairy
Oct 30 2012 11:27 AM
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cooby wrote:
Glad to see that those who have checked in are safe, though maybe shaken.


Shaken, but never stirred

Swan Swan H
Oct 30 2012 11:43 AM
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We lost the power around 7:15 last night, but had no damage to the house or cars. I'm at work, my wife and daughter are home.

Ceetar
Oct 30 2012 01:40 PM
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No power, no hot water. Had to have ice cream for lunch. No property so no real worries. At the mall charging phones. Lots of stuff broken, some treesdown railroad gate bar things broke off. We didn't get much rain here though. Far enough from water that it wasn't an issue.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 30 2012 02:37 PM
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BetterHalfer made it home via really frightening drive after their hotel-- just below the well-publicized dangling crane in midtown-- was evacuated. Rode it out at home with no power outage (save a flicker during the worst of it) and so little damage, watching the news/reading Twitter and scanner updates almost left me feeling guilty.

metirish
Oct 30 2012 04:47 PM
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Parts of NJ from the air look like the aftermath of Katrina. Absolutely terrible scenes from there.

cooby
Oct 30 2012 05:01 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
BetterHalfer made it home via really frightening drive after their hotel-- just below the well-publicized dangling crane in midtown-- was evacuated. Rode it out at home with no power outage (save a flicker during the worst of it) and so little damage, watching the news/reading Twitter and scanner updates almost left me feeling guilty.


I am glad she is safe; give her a big hug!

metirish
Oct 30 2012 05:07 PM
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cooby wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
BetterHalfer made it home via really frightening drive after their hotel-- just below the well-publicized dangling crane in midtown-- was evacuated. Rode it out at home with no power outage (save a flicker during the worst of it) and so little damage, watching the news/reading Twitter and scanner updates almost left me feeling guilty.


I am glad she is safe; give her a big hug!


Yeah really, driving in that last night had to have been frightening.......and for those waiting at home. Glad all its OK.

cooby
Oct 31 2012 07:21 AM
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It's been raining about 60 straight hours now

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 31 2012 07:29 AM
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Sunshine. Huh.

Edgy MD
Oct 31 2012 08:15 AM
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Where I come from, now a lot of rubble.











Vic Sage
Oct 31 2012 08:15 AM
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when i opened our back door onto the patio and stepped out into the storm on Monday night, the winds were like nothing i'd ever felt before, nor ever seen outside a special effects-laden disaster movie.

But we were virtually unscathed. We never lost power, we didn't flood (not even the typical stuff i get in the basement during a hard rain), and the only damage was the big old tree next door dropping some big limbs on our patio and fence along the side of the house (instead of crashing down on us, which seemed not only likely but imminent). The first night we had a slumber party and all slept downstairs on blowup beds in the den, because I didn’t want anyone in the bedrooms upstairs, given the tree situation. My daughter's bedroom was particularly vulnerable, so she moved some of her belongings downstairs too (it was interesting to see what she valued -- stuffed animals, snapshots, softball trophies, and autographed TWILIGHT pictures). My son just got a few stuffed animals, but he practiced finding my most valuable box of comics in the cabinet, getting ready to risk his life for their preservation. I was so proud.

New Rochelle was hit pretty hard overall (though less hard than some other areas, i'm sure), so we were VERY lucky. In the aftermath, i walked around and noted downed trees and power lines everywhere and flooded areas along the Sound. 2/3 of the town without power; most traffic lights are out. No place to buy a quart of milk. My kids are both home (no power in the schools) and very happy about it. Although they're going to be considerably less happy by the loss of Halloween tonight -- I don’t think too many of our neighbors are in a celebratory candy-giving mood, even if it was safe to actually walk around (which it's not).

My brother, who lives in Dobbs Ferry, is sleeping at our house, because he lost power. His wife was stuck in the city and can't get out yet. He's driving in to get her today. I drove in and am back at work, but i'm the only one here.

All in all, we were pretty damn lucky. I'm so sorry for those of you who weren't.

Ceetar
Oct 31 2012 08:22 AM
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Edgy: That's breezy point? (Lack of power hasn't given me a ton of news)

Always surprises me to see fire damage during hurricanes, you'd think it wouldn't last. But it didn't seem like it dumped as much rain as was expected, and those winds probably whip fires around pretty fast.

Nymr83
Oct 31 2012 08:24 AM
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Got on a bus at 8am trying to get to work... Not even half way there yet. Stay home folks!

metirish
Oct 31 2012 08:30 AM
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Nymr83 wrote:
Got on a bus at 8am trying to get to work... Not even half way there yet. Stay home folks!



damn, that totally sucks......the roads(hutch,cross bronx, sprain) were fine this morning, although you could see how bad they had been with trees shoved to the sides, some exit ramps closed....

Ceetar
Oct 31 2012 08:32 AM
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metirish wrote:
Nymr83 wrote:
Got on a bus at 8am trying to get to work... Not even half way there yet. Stay home folks!



damn, that totally sucks......the roads(hutch,cross bronx, sprain) were fine this morning, although you could see how bad they had been with trees shoved to the sides, some exit ramps closed....


Considering going to Queens (from N NJ) this evening, maybe it's not worth the hassle.

metirish
Oct 31 2012 08:33 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
metirish wrote:
Nymr83 wrote:
Got on a bus at 8am trying to get to work... Not even half way there yet. Stay home folks!



damn, that totally sucks......the roads(hutch,cross bronx, sprain) were fine this morning, although you could see how bad they had been with trees shoved to the sides, some exit ramps closed....


Considering going to Queens (from N NJ) this evening, maybe it's not worth the hassle.



Unless it is absolutely vital I wouldn't.

Ceetar
Oct 31 2012 08:36 AM
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metirish wrote:
metirish wrote:
Nymr83 wrote:
Got on a bus at 8am trying to get to work... Not even half way there yet. Stay home folks!



damn, that totally sucks......the roads(hutch,cross bronx, sprain) were fine this morning, although you could see how bad they had been with trees shoved to the sides, some exit ramps closed....


Considering going to Queens (from N NJ) this evening, maybe it's not worth the hassle.



Unless it is absolutely vital I wouldn't.


They've got power and hot showers (maybe I should make some friends in my own state?) and cold beer. But yeah.

Maybe the upper west side. that's only like 15 minutes away.

Edgy MD
Oct 31 2012 08:37 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Edgy: That's breezy point? (Lack of power hasn't given me a ton of news)

Always surprises me to see fire damage during hurricanes, you'd think it wouldn't last. But it didn't seem like it dumped as much rain as was expected, and those winds probably whip fires around pretty fast.

One thing we did on the Rockaway Peninsula back when it was a popular summer area was to over-expand our homes and cover like 75% of our plots. In the summer, the homeowners would move to a back house and rent out the main house piecemeal. The overdevelopment of wood structures left just a few feet between houses, an easy gap for flames to jump.

cooby
Oct 31 2012 08:37 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Where I come from, now a lot of rubble.














Breezy Point ranks right up there with Katrina as one of the saddest things I have ever seen in my life

Vic Sage
Oct 31 2012 08:41 AM
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i wonder how my old town of Sea Gate, on Coney Island, fared. I assume pretty badly since it was right in the path of Sandy... a beach community surrounded by water on 3 sides, at the southern tip of Brooklyn/LI, at the mouth of NY Harbor, just sitting there waiting to get smacked. It used to be a fave for weather reporters to use as a reporting locale during nasty NorEasters, but i didn't really hear or see anything about it this time.

metirish
Oct 31 2012 08:45 AM
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Vic Sage wrote:
i wonder how my old town of Sea Gate, on Coney Island, fared. I assume pretty badly since it was right in the path of Sandy... a beach community surrounded by water on 3 sides, at the southern tip of Brooklyn/LI, at the mouth of NY Harbor, just sitting there waiting to get smacked. It used to be a fave for weather reporters to use as a reporting locale during nasty NorEasters, but i didn't really hear or see anything about it this time.




not good apparently

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sand ... JE5Z2_7JiM

G-Fafif
Oct 31 2012 11:37 AM
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Approximately 31 hours without power in Baldwin, recently resolved. We had gotten through the worst of it stormwise until the power went out around 5:30 AM Tuesday, presumably as part of LIPA's systemwide assessment. Assessment presumably checked out, knock wood and anything else one has handy.

Not as fortunate: My sister and her husband in another part of town, closer to water. They rode out the storm with us until they judged it safe to go home, when they found their crawl space and its contents destroyed, and their basement and its contents having suffered major damage. Ton of mud everywhere. And they were lucky compared to next-door neighbor whose house burned down and another neighbor who had a tree fall on their house. As I told her, you have your house intact (in that you're still in it with no actual structural damage) and you have your selves intact (and they're insured). Still, I feel terrible.

So one-plus days in dark with no TV, no Internet, et al, eating refrigeratable goods out of the freezer before they could go bad...no problem at all.

Next challenge: Negotiating limited-service LIRR and, for Mrs. Fafif, the 7 Line where she works.

But no complaints. Absolutely none.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 31 2012 11:57 AM
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We lost power at 10:41 p.m. Monday night. It went back on sometime this morning while I was at work, so I don't know the exact time but I'd say we were without power for about 36 hours. No damage, just a little inconvenience. Like G-Fafif, I have nothing to complain about.

Ceetar
Oct 31 2012 12:01 PM
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was just out looking for lunch (went to Burger King. yeah yeah, diet, whatever) Target was closed. There was a good 100+ yards of cars waiting at at least two different gas stations.

Ceetar
Oct 31 2012 02:42 PM
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I know it's a little sadistic, but I'm fascinated by pictures of the devastation.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 31 2012 02:46 PM
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Reminds me how shockingly easy we got off. I feel terribly guilty.

Greenpoint right now is like Manhattan, streets and stores are packed as nobody is leaving for work.

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 31 2012 02:53 PM
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I feel guilty about the title I gave this thread.

cooby
Oct 31 2012 03:01 PM
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Sandy has lived up to her name.

Willets, don't feel bad Buddy, you didn't make it happen!

Chad Ochoseis
Oct 31 2012 04:37 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 31 2012 06:20 PM

Here's a map of my town...



I've heard that the eastern and southern parts of town are largely under water. Eastern is mostly industry and strip malls, but that southern tip is all homes. Don't know how bad the damage is, but evacuation notices were sent out in advance and I believe people generally listened.

My building is on high ground in the center of town, and I'm on the top floor. So no direct damage. We have heating/cooling units on the roof, and four of them got blown around in the storm and are probably totaled. Fortunately, they stayed on the roof. A pine tree was uprooted and grazed the building...probably some damage, but not huge.

Wind gusts reached 77 mph. A very large tree blocked an intersection about two blocks away...



No power. No internet connection even when I used backup power. I had a couple of bars on my cell when I woke up at 5:30 this morning, but otherwise no. Occasional cell service if I walk around town. Last I heard, power might not be back until Tuesday.

My office, 25 miles to the northwest, was barely affected at all, so that's where I'm staying tonight. I drove up here at 4:30. The highways in NJ are clear, though a lot of streets are blocked and many traffic lights (including every light in my town) are out. The half of the office that works in non-hard hit areas showed up dressed in usual business casual, and I got a couple of funny looks in my sweatshirt and ripped jeans.

Ceetar...don't know what your power situation is, but if you can read this and need to microwave something, feel free to come over. Send me a PM.

themetfairy - I heard from our mutual friend in your area, and she got her power back a couple of hours ago. So there's hope!

Glad people are generally doing well.

themetfairy
Oct 31 2012 05:04 PM
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Chad - I'm glad you're ok.

I'm glad for our friend. A lot of people are getting power back, but we're out due to a blown transformer and lots of downed trees and wires by it (If you can access my Flickr pix, you can see the damage). There weren't any workers out there about an hour ago, when we decided to drive to D-Dad's office for the evening (lights! heat! internet! oh, the joy of it all!), so I'm guessing we're nowhere near getting back online :(

Mets – Willets Point
Oct 31 2012 05:48 PM
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MTA subway map starting tomorrow. Yikes!

Edgy MD
Oct 31 2012 06:51 PM
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"Looks like somebody whose arteries aren't working." --- Mrs. Edgy

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 31 2012 07:19 PM
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No 7, no L. On my run tonight I encountered Hipster Rush Hour on the Williamsburg Bridge footpath. We are homebound through the weekend as my office has no power.

metsmarathon
Oct 31 2012 08:40 PM
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We've got (limited) power and heat because we have awesome neighbors whose generator puts out juice to spare. No Internet and half the house is dark, but minimm can watch DVDs and Phineas & Ferb in our bedroom so it's all good. His day care has power as of this evening so he gets back to his regular grind tomorrow. I think he's sick of us, and is super frustrated by the fickleness of electrons whose peculiar motions he cannot begin to fathom.

Work for me and mrs.mm was on at noon. We drove in with the intent of dropping her off and me coming back with minimm. The network was down so mrs.mm's office was sending people home unless they needed to plug in and recharge or just to commiserate and recharge. My office, also without network access, was allowing people to work from home of they wanted so we came back. I don't think minimm would have let me stay anyway.

Work is closed tomorrow, as I don't think the network is back up, and also to allow those of us who are truly non-essential to stay home, stay off the roads, save gas, and to allow us to recover ourselves. If the network (and phones and email) are down, we wouldn't be terribly productive anyways.

Edgy MD
Nov 01 2012 06:25 AM
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Much credit to Ochoseis for remembering in his time of challenge to reach out to folks who are more compromised. More power to that man and that attitude.

metirish
Nov 01 2012 06:43 AM
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I hope this is not out of place but this lady has given many of us reason to smile.....Bloomberg's ASL lady.....her mom and three siblings are deaf.....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... Sandy.html

Edgy MD
Nov 01 2012 11:15 AM
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Supposedly a line for buses near the Brooklyn Bridge.

Ceetar
Nov 01 2012 11:33 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:

Supposedly a line for buses near the Brooklyn Bridge.


Given what I've about the shear volume of commuters that use the Subway, doesn't surprise me. Hell, some of those areas are sometimes jam packed just from the people walking TO the transit stations.

meanwhile in suburbia, I drove past two gas stations open on 23N in Wayne. did a u-turn, measured. .8 mile line for one, .6 for the other. The .8 one appeared to also have a fender bender.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 01 2012 01:50 PM
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Gas station open just three blocks from us at Castle Hill/Cross Bronx... with an estimated three-hour line. And our infrastructure is FINE.

metirish
Nov 01 2012 01:54 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Gas station open just three blocks from us at Castle Hill/Cross Bronx... with an estimated three-hour line. And our infrastructure is FINE.



fuck, wife just called me about such lines in the Bronx, going to see about getting gas up here in Valhalla.

metirish
Nov 02 2012 06:01 AM
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I can't believe they are running the marathon Sunday. LWFS said it best on his FB........add to that they they are setting up staging ares, generators etc in Central park.....bring that stuff to where it is needed....I would not at all be surprised if there was trouble a long the route.

My sis in law is NYPD.....currently logging many hours per day in Brooklyn, getting pulled to work the marathon, she says the cops are not happy about this at all.

Chad Ochoseis
Nov 02 2012 06:19 AM
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Thanks, Edgy.

metirish wrote:
LWFS said it best on his FB


Damned right.

The office park where I work is next to a gas station. I walked over to the local Domino's for lunch yesterday (yeah, I was desperate) and the line was snaking through the very large parking lot - would easily have been half a mile or more if the cops had let the line spill onto the road. It was shorter when I left work at 7, but still looked like it was a good 20-30 minute wait.

If anyone needs gas and wants to take a chance and head there tonight, PM me for the exact location. It's about 20 minutes from the GWB.

My girlfriend's apartment complex has power, so I'm staying with her. I could get to work today, but don't want to use the gas, so I'm working from home. The downside of power is that the TV's on and I'm listening to political advertising. In a deep blue state. That's just been through a hurricane.

Nymr83
Nov 02 2012 06:46 AM
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Running the marathon is just plain stupid. Transportation has yet to be fully restored, but we're going to shut down bridges and roadways for the majority of the day for a race? Stupid. Taking away police from disaster areas to supervise a race? Stupid. People without homes can't find hotel rooms because of marathon? Stupid.

Bloomberg? Stupid as usual. I have to say I really feel that he is example A for term limits as he has gotten worse and worse the longer he has been in office.

Frayed Knot
Nov 02 2012 06:58 AM
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So in this NBC-televised concert-thon tonight, what are the odds of Bruce playing either:
a) 'Fourth of July Asbury Park (Sandy)'? -- aka, the song that kicked off this thread
or
b) 'Lost in the Flood'?

Probably not good for either one me thinks.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2012 07:11 AM
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The beach I spent my formative years is largely gone. But that was the descendant of many a strand. Dredged and re-dredged as former storms took away pieces of her. But now, the pride of Rockaway, the longest urban beach in America, is only scattered hints of itself.

The boardwalk I took my first steps, exploded. But that was that too was descended from boards gradually replaced along the way, right? Various lightning strikes must have forced the whole thing to have been gradually rebuilt two or three times completely over the last century. But now the whole thing is shattered into splinters and big rafts made from the planks that held to each other, washing across the peninsula smashing people's houses apart.

The church where I prayed, cried, took my sacraments. Virtually deleted.

My grandmother's house, where she took care of infant me, where I took care of doddering her. The magical shorefront pad from which I launched into what had to be the longest commute in New York City, 90 minutes to mid-town. In a long lonely winter, I read Ulysses there. (Didn't make me less lonely, neither.) When it became impossible to maintain my grandmother there and I left for DC, my family in one of those hasty decisions that are made among estranged brothers, sold it for $45,000. Boom times followed and you can still find it on multiple listing services for 10 times that. Don't pay. It's a memory now, burned to the ground and the rubble and the cinders washed away with the storm surge, leaving just a charred foundation.

Back while I finished up my last semester over the summer in college, I received strange news. My parents had joined a yacht club. A yacht club. I thought it was a fucking joke. It seemed so embarrassingly and disturbingly unlike them, I didn't want to even talk about it. They were city-dwellers, survivors of an Irish ghetto that had a lot to be proud of with the suburban life they built and raised us in, but a yacht club was a bridge too far. They certainly would never have darkened the door of any of the local tanned and snooty (and frankly anti-Semitic) golf or tennis clubs around us. What gives? But my dad was a do-it-yourself boatbuilder as a teenager, and in his retirement, he wanted to indulge his old hobby. And this seemed to him a manageable way to maintain a slip for his boat. I saw the place and I was more forgiving. Really, it was a glorified boathouse, a hotplate kitchen, a bar, and the dock. So for the last twenty years of his life, he scraped barnacles off his boat and they developed friendships, built a new community, and cared for and mourned for each other as their generation died off. When my dad died, my mom made noises about leaving, and I, now 180 degrees turned, told her not to. Keep paying her dues, and it'll give her an excuse to get out once every few weeks.

But as a younger generation took over, the contributions and connections of the oldies became less relevant, and when a new tax assessment hit the place, the dues were raised precipitously, and the widowed members were asked to pay the same amount as the full boating members with multiple slips. That didn't seem fair. Al my mother was doing anymore was going down there twice a month to make sandwiches for the younger members. So she wrote a tearful letter of resignation, and they didn't even think to write her back and call, thank her for her years of service, my father's leadership as commodore. That was a few weeks ago. The place, as you may guess, is destroyed, their boats in piles or washed miles away wrecked like so many S.S. Minnows in the ruined garden of somebody's former beloved seaside home. (In the end, I guess, I was right. It now truly is a fucking joke.)

We have our stories, and are thankful for that, but with each phone call I get, I learn that the settings for all these stories are now places that used to be. It's staggering.

But all my people are safe. And many can't say that. Apart from that, all is vanity.







metsmarathon
Nov 02 2012 07:28 AM
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metirish wrote:
I can't believe they are running the marathon Sunday. LWFS said it best on his FB........add to that they they are setting up staging ares, generators etc in Central park.....bring that stuff to where it is needed....I would not at all be surprised if there was trouble a long the route.

My sis in law is NYPD.....currently logging many hours per day in Brooklyn, getting pulled to work the marathon, she says the cops are not happy about this at all.


i am shocked and appalled that the marathon is being conducted this weekend. the ONLY rason for it is so the new york road runners does not have to either issue refunds to all the entered participants or allow them free entry into next year. i mean, on the one hand, cancelling hte marathon would be ruinous for them financially, but there are things of greater import.

and i cannot believe that the city would go along with it.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2012 07:31 AM
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I like to think most runners would be cool to see their fees go to a charitable effort to help people rebuild or to assist the bereaved.

New York, though, takes pride in its resiliency and I'm sure the race will be framed as a symbol of that resiliency, even if it really turns into a waste of hotel rooms and airport capacity.

Ceetar
Nov 02 2012 07:33 AM
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I think I'd be okay with the Marathon if it didn't seem to be so clearly diverting researches and energy. I don't have a problem with the Knicks and Nets playing for instance. Life goes on, and should, it doesn't wait until the last person affected by the storm is back on their feet. But the Marathon is a minor inconvenience even in good times.

Of course, we've got huge corporations running on generators wasting gas too while their employees are worried about finding enough to get in and out, and cops are being diverted to control gas lines as well.

metsmarathon
Nov 02 2012 07:58 AM
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if hte marathon were next week, i'd have zero problem with it. the real issue is that recovery efforts in and around the course itself are ongoing. and while its an economic boon to the area, it is also a stress, and i don't really think it wise to stress the system so. emergency workers are needed to keep order and keep people safe in their ruined neighborhoods, not to keep people off a race course. there's a fuel shortage and they'll be running hte whole damned thing off generators, while the area itself is still struggling to regain power.

its clear and understandable that the nyrr does not want to lose the revenue they draw for the race, and at least they're doing the right thing in allowing runners to cancel and retain their entry for next year (provided they pay next year's entry fee as well). but it is a race for them to recover their entry fees much moreso than it is a race to recover the area. the road runners have said they will donate over $1 million, or $26.20 per entrant. they charge $255.

i get it. it can't be postponed. and those who are ready and willing to run are, well, ready and willing to run. i just don't know that it's wise. i also wonder if there will be a backlash against nyrr for holding the race, and whether this will sully their reputation, and if that potential cost is worth it... but people have a short memory sometimes...

Chad Ochoseis
Nov 02 2012 08:24 AM
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Have the "runners" walk the route. Modify it a bit so it goes over the Brooklyn Bridge and into lower Manhattan rather than using the Queensboro. That way, the runners can walk supplies from areas that were less hard hit, like Bay Ridge and upper Manhattan, into the areas that need it. Carry food and water. Carry some gas cans. Carry something like this:



so that people can charge batteries and cell phones. Clean up some debris. The winner is whoever does the most work as measured in foot-pounds. Or reaches the most people. Or carries hot food the longest distance while still keeping it above room temperature. Or whoever.

Right now, the losers are the NYRRC.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2012 08:27 AM
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That only seems half crazy.

Ceetar
Nov 02 2012 08:31 AM
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note from a friend about NYU medical center. 'Sav' is a post-doc researcher or whatever his actual title is.

This will probably make Debbie really sad, but NYU medical center lost all of their lab animals... they all drowned when the pumps failed. Their animal core is in the freaking sub basement, right along the water. Brilliant idea.
Sav said it's really freaky there. The backup generators failed, so the entire hospital is pitch black. They managed to restore some of the back up system, so his boss is making him go in every day to check that their freezers are still running. There are no windows on his floor and he has to walk up 17 flights of stairs. It's just sad that he's gotta bring a flashlight to work.

metirish
Nov 02 2012 08:34 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
note from a friend about NYU medical center. 'Sav' is a post-doc researcher or whatever his actual title is.

This will probably make Debbie really sad, but NYU medical center lost all of their lab animals... they all drowned when the pumps failed. Their animal core is in the freaking sub basement, right along the water. Brilliant idea.
Sav said it's really freaky there. The backup generators failed, so the entire hospital is pitch black. They managed to restore some of the back up system, so his boss is making him go in every day to check that their freezers are still running. There are no windows on his floor and he has to walk up 17 flights of stairs. It's just sad that he's gotta bring a flashlight to work.




great article on this

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... _dead.html

Ceetar
Nov 02 2012 08:40 AM
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apparently before the subways were running he ended up walking from Long Island City after teh 59th street bridge and then from there down to 29th because the buses just didn't go.

Chad Ochoseis
Nov 02 2012 08:41 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
That only seems half crazy.


I was only being half serious. It's (a) crazy and (b) a hell of a lot saner than running the marathon the regular way.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2012 08:51 AM
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Make it work.

Ceetar
Nov 02 2012 09:14 AM
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friend in Rockaway who, probably stupidly, decided to ride out the storm at home.

Hi gang, we are safe now at my sisters house in floral park. I dont have my phone. I also dont have anybody's phone number. Thank you all for your prayers. Everything is gone, destroyed. It is so bad down Rockaway, the news isnt showing it, but no one is there helping. No cops no national guard, no fema. People are fighting to survive and we were all trying to help eachother, except the looters who mostly only come at night. Send me your numbers in private and will try to check the fb account.

metirish
Nov 02 2012 09:33 AM
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Some good news

Andrew Cuomo @NYGovCuomo
Gov: Millions of gallons of gasoline are now in the harbor & going through the network #fuel #gas #tankers #NYS

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 02 2012 09:37 AM
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I hope not literally in the harbor.

Meanwhile, runners plan to boycott and volunteer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 02 2012 09:47 AM
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Bloomy and the RYRR look like absolute shits, but that's a pretty big tanker to turn on a dime.

Would be great if they'd postpone it a week and allow them rich international tourists to spend more of their rubles and pesos and euros here.

seawolf17
Nov 02 2012 09:51 AM
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Have the "runners" walk the route. Modify it a bit so it goes over the Brooklyn Bridge and into lower Manhattan rather than using the Queensboro. That way, the runners can walk supplies from areas that were less hard hit, like Bay Ridge and upper Manhattan, into the areas that need it. Carry food and water. Carry some gas cans. Carry something like this:



so that people can charge batteries and cell phones. Clean up some debris. The winner is whoever does the most work as measured in foot-pounds. Or reaches the most people. Or carries hot food the longest distance while still keeping it above room temperature. Or whoever.

Right now, the losers are the NYRRC.

Interesting idea. Then the people who bitch and moan because they want to run are the bad guys, not the NYRRC.

Chad Ochoseis
Nov 02 2012 09:52 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Make it work.



Looks like someone is. From that link that WP posted:

Runners will show up at the starting line, but will break off en masse at different points of the city to deliver supplies to places hardest hit and without power. This will mean departing from the race, to head to various buildings, running up and down stairs delivering water and canned goods, etc. Runners will show up to the marathon, as scheduled. Runners who want to help should post the words, “I’M HERE TO HELP!” somewhere on their bodies.


Seawolf - fair point.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2012 09:56 AM
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That's what I'm talking about.

Long have I wondered, when I come across Xtreme sports risk junkies --- if you get a thrill from risking your life, go to a relief camp Papua New Guinea or Haiti and risk cholera. Let's pass on outbadassing each other on the X Games.

Runners running relief supplies through the streets of New York may not work at all, beyond symbolically, but it's surely a good start.

Ceetar
Nov 02 2012 10:02 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
That's what I'm talking about.

Long have I wondered, when I come across Xtreme sports risk junkies --- if you get a thrill from risking your life, go to a relief camp Papua New Guinea or Haiti and risk cholera. Let's pass on outbadassing each other on the X Games.

Runners running relief supplies through the streets of New York may not work at all, beyond symbolically, but it's surely a good start.


The two things are not mutually exclusive.

If they're not going to cancel the thing, I'm not sure how not participating helps anyone if they've already diverted the (man)power. helping out the affected people is not mutually exclusive either. Go to SI and help out then, and if you ALSO want to run the race? hell, do so. I'm not begrudging anyone their individual decision to help out or not help out. I'm not sure specifically using the marathon as a vehicle to help is the most efficient way though.

metirish
Nov 02 2012 10:42 AM
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Good man Mr. Gandhi


S.I. Hotel Owner Won't Kick Out Guests to Accommodate Runners

As anger percolates over the the decision to hold the New York City Marathon, at least one hotel owner on Staten Island, where the race starts, said he would not kick out those displaced by Hurricane Sandy to accommodate runners who have reserved a room.

“Our main priority here is to help people in the Staten Island community who have lost their homes to the storm, said Amit Gandhi, the owner of a Holiday Inn Express.

With many parts of Staten Island decimated by the storm and many residents lacking the basics, many residents and local politicians are furious that marathon organizers are continuing with their plans.

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said he believed holding the marathon was feasible given the scope of the recovery and was a sign of a return to a semblance of normal life in the city.

But Mr. Gandhi said his first priority had to be the people staying in his hotel whose homes have been destroyed or are uninhabitable.

“We have concerns from our in-house desks who were scheduled to check out due to the marathoners,” Mr. Gandhi said. “But they are here because their houses were destroyed, and we’re not going to ask them to leave. Any distressed family, we are extending their stays. With marathoners, we do expect a lot of cancellations. If some marathoners come and we don’t have availability, we will do our best to find them another hotel, probably somewhere in New Jersey.”

Vic Sage
Nov 02 2012 10:56 AM
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This situation has me mad enough to spit nails.

Look, i don't care for the marathon under the best of circumstances. If somebody wants to run 26 miles on a treadmill or a track, or around the central park reservoir, then fine. I mean, i think they're nuts to do it, but it's no skin off my nose. But the NYC marathon causes city-wide traffic and gridlock problems, and is a pain in the ass. Sure, it brings in alot of money, so its a tradeoff that's worth it, i suppose. Usually.

But not this year.

This year, we need all our city resources to be used in helping folks in dire straights in the area. we need our remaining hotel rooms for homeless locals; our fuel and food and water for families in need; and police, EMT, and firemen keeping us safe and saving our lives and homes. We don't need to be housing, and feeding, transporting, and protecting alot of out-of-towners here for a foot race. The money isn't going to be worth it this year, especially when you consider how many fewer racers there will be, and how many fewer hotel rooms, and restaurants, and downtown touristy stores and venues will be available to take the marathoners' money. It won't be a windfall this year, Mr. Mayor, and since that's the only justification for it, it seems a poor one indeed.

And that's even before you get into the morality or appropriateness of sponsoring such an event at this time. And if a single life is lost, or a single home collapses, or a single illness is contracted from contaminated water, which could have been averted with a more rational allocation of our limited resources, then this decision is not only immoral... at that point, it becomes criminal.

metsmarathon
Nov 02 2012 11:06 AM
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Vic Sage wrote:
It won't be a windfall this year, Mr. Mayor, and since that's the only justification for it, it seems a poor one indeed.


this.

Ceetar
Nov 02 2012 11:10 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
It won't be a windfall this year, Mr. Mayor, and since that's the only justification for it, it seems a poor one indeed.


this.


are we sure of this? I'm hardly connected enough to know if it'll be a windfall, but i bet those bars and restaurants closed all week and hoping to get up and running and have some actual customers this weekend feel differently.

metirish
Nov 02 2012 11:16 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
metsmarathon wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
It won't be a windfall this year, Mr. Mayor, and since that's the only justification for it, it seems a poor one indeed.


this.


are we sure of this? I'm hardly connected enough to know if it'll be a windfall, but i bet those bars and restaurants closed all week and hoping to get up and running and have some actual customers this weekend feel differently.




yeah, if they are total dickheads they feel this way, you would need to be a real heartless dick to think this way.

Vic Sage
Nov 02 2012 12:21 PM
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heartless or not, its just not realistic. The power is still off in large parts of every borough, as well as nearby Jersey, Westchester and LI. Those areas are not likely to get power for another week at least, though i'm sure areas here and there will come on line along the way (i'm sure they're focusing on lower manhattan). Even if the lights went back on TODAY, businesses won't necessarily have the supplies or staff to be fully operational on Sunday. Its just a logistical impossibility for there to be as many options as usual for visiting marathoners and NYRRC staff to spend their money, especially with about 1/2 of those registered actually expected to show up and run, given the circumstances.

you don't have to be in the inner circle to see that, any way you slice it, there will less benefit to the city than unusual in hosting this event which, given the normal disruption the even causes residents every year, would call its value into question. When you consider what the supplies and personnel could be doing INSTEAD... then it just seems insane.

metsmarathon
Nov 02 2012 12:31 PM
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if the marathon were next weekend, i would have zero problem with it commencing as planned. next week, it might be a good, or great, thing. both as a needed distraction and as an economic boost.

this week? no.

at best it will be a hot mess.

themetfairy
Nov 02 2012 02:28 PM
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After approximately 93 hours, I'm up and running again. Electricity, phone and FiOS are all back.

I'm beyone ecstatic. I'm even almost warm again :)

G-Fafif
Nov 02 2012 02:37 PM
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Just came back from helping my sister and her husband clear out a wet basement. Just a mess (the water got to four feet high) and heartbreaking from a stuff point of view. So much stuff crammed into their crawl space over nearly 30 years, whether it was forgotten or treasured...gone. Probably not treasured if it was in the crawl space, but the basement was a different story. My bro-in-law a big collector of films, comics, pulps -- so much of it destroyed. And their power's still not on. They'll be staying here tonight after bunking in a hotel last couple of nights.

FEMA guy showed up in the middle of our cleaning and schlepping. Competent, empathetic soul. I noticed my sister didn't use the occasion to spout her anti-government vitriol.

metirish
Nov 02 2012 03:10 PM
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Andrew Siff on NBC reporting that the marathon is cancelled......no other news....

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 02 2012 07:26 PM
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MFS62
Nov 02 2012 08:56 PM
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Lost power Monday afternoon, just got it back about 20 minutes ago.(10:20 PM Friday). Some storm damage to trees, nothing major with us, but some people in town were devistated by downed trees. The main road out of town was finally unblocked (trees and downed electrical lines) morning.
How did it go for all of you? Didn't read through the thread.
I'll check in on the board tomorrow.
Going to bed.
Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 02 2012 09:50 PM
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Gas station open just three blocks from us at Castle Hill/Cross Bronx... with an estimated three-hour line. And our infrastructure is FINE.


Actually, 3:11, start to finish. Weird little pseudo-community grew in that time, covering for drivers who had to duck into a bodega or restaurant restroom... and fought off would-be line-cutters aggressively but surprisingly politely. (Most of those, when confronted, played dumb and sheepishly circled back in the direction of the line's end.)

Wifey and the kid came out and joined me when they got bored at home... just in time for me to duck into a Spanish restaurant and empty the bladder. When I got to the pumps, I swear I felt like I'd won something.

Headed to Jersey tomorrow to deliver blankets and other reliefstuff to still-powerless (and waterless, in some cases) family.

This is weird.

'There's this bar - it's got Hennessy, Captain Morgans, 12 year old Maclallan, vodka and cases of Heineken...well what were we going to do? We had a party. We needed to let off steam.'


This puts things in perspective.

In one of the neighborhoods, yelling through the buildings for survivors, Kristy saw a body tied to the porch of a house. Her companions, addressing her shock said, “at least his family will be able to find his body”.

Frayed Knot
Nov 03 2012 06:41 AM
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So kind of a general question here: Is every storm from here on out going to be cited as one that wouldn't have occurred except for global warming (or "climate change", depending on which phrase is in these days) or only some of them?

I mean I get the concern and all and I'm not coming out in favor of ignoring the question or anything. But when Mayor Bloomberg and Gov Cuomo (among others) plus most of the media simply state without a trace of doubt that, despite all the complexities of global climates and atmospheric movements and everything else that goes into making weather both on a large and local scale, the existence and/or path of this storm can only be explained by some phenomenon that most had barely heard of 20 years ago, I get a bit skeptical of the unquestioning self-assurance.

You know what was unique about this storm? -- that it got to our latitude and hung a sudden left.
Other than that, not much.

Ceetar
Nov 03 2012 08:06 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
So kind of a general question here: Is every storm from here on out going to be cited as one that wouldn't have occurred except for global warming (or "climate change", depending on which phrase is in these days) or only some of them?

I mean I get the concern and all and I'm not coming out in favor of ignoring the question or anything. But when Mayor Bloomberg and Gov Cuomo (among others) plus most of the media simply state without a trace of doubt that, despite all the complexities of global climates and atmospheric movements and everything else that goes into making weather both on a large and local scale, the existence and/or path of this storm can only be explained by some phenomenon that most had barely heard of 20 years ago, I get a bit skeptical of the unquestioning self-assurance.

You know what was unique about this storm? -- that it got to our latitude and hung a sudden left.
Other than that, not much.


also, high tide, so the timing was bad. And the huge monstrosity of it was creating record pressure systems that hurt the tides more. And the other pressure systems/storms hitting at the same time and getting gobbled up.


Citing global climate change because we got two real epic storms in two years in the Northeast is like saying Ruben Tejada is going to break Barry Bond's record because he homered in the first two games of the season.


Of course, taht's not reason to AVOID the discussion of climate change, to whatever extent it exists, because conservation and rsepect of the planet and it's resources are important whether or not sea levels are rising and if that's because of something we did or is a nature cycle of the planet, which has been around a long time before we started _really_ measuring the weather.

Edgy MD
Nov 03 2012 08:49 AM
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So kind of a general question here: Is every storm from here on out going to be cited as one that wouldn't have occurred except for global warming (or "climate change", depending on which phrase is in these days) or only some of them?

I mean I get the concern and all and I'm not coming out in favor of ignoring the question or anything. But when Mayor Bloomberg and Gov Cuomo (among others) plus most of the media simply state without a trace of doubt that, despite all the complexities of global climates and atmospheric movements and everything else that goes into making weather both on a large and local scale, the existence and/or path of this storm can only be explained by some phenomenon that most had barely heard of 20 years ago, I get a bit skeptical of the unquestioning self-assurance.

You know what was unique about this storm? -- that it got to our latitude and hung a sudden left.
Other than that, not much.

The politicization of this storm, while bodies are still in the water, was nauseating and paralyzingly depressing. And of course, it was frequently done by folks who decried it's potential politicization by others.

Maybe Republicans did cause this storm, and maybe Democrats clearly managed it better than Republicans would have. I have nothing but guesswork. Maybe we can get all the data in and wait until Monday morning for that.

Else, I'm with Ceetar on this. The storm gives us data. And it's important to use all the data we have and act wisely. Grabbing the data that confirms your bias and screaming SEE! in the middle of the crisis --- not so much.

Ceetar
Nov 03 2012 08:55 AM
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I can practically guarentee there's going to be a conspiracy theory, politically, around this storm. Maybe less so because these aren't really swing states( but hey, if Philly is powerless and it keeps people away from the polls, that's a big deal)

Frayed Knot
Nov 03 2012 11:08 AM
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also, high tide, so the timing was bad. And the huge monstrosity of it was creating record pressure systems that hurt the tides more. And the other pressure systems/storms hitting at the same time and getting gobbled up.


Oh a lot of factors went in to making this storm particularly destructive: the timing of the full moon; the particular placement; the lay of the land of eastern Jersey and NY harbor and LI's south shore; the population of the area; other weather patterns, etc. But there was very little about the storm itself that made it particularly unlike others that have been making landfall (or often not) over decades and centuries. That it was so slow-moving hurt a lot. Other than that, the super-low pressure was probably the most remarkable thing but, although physically lager than most storms, it also had winds which barely qualified it as a hurricane. Other storms over the years could have done equal, less, worse, or even simply different kinds of damage, but none of them made a wild left turn when they got to 39 degrees or so north latitude.

And, if we're looking for man-made culprits in this thing, we should probably start at our trend towards building lots of things real close to water on low-laying lands while at the same time being increasingly dependent on the power grid. When the old-timers on Long Island's east end talk about the 1937 hurricane (the "Big One" - they weren't naming them back then) which devastated that area and then went on to trash eastern New England with hundreds of dead in a much less densely populated area and time, they talk about all kinds of problems it created but none of them involved not having a place to charge their iPads or fill-up the 24 gallon gas tank on their SUVs.



The politicization of this storm, while bodies are still in the water was nauseating and paralyzingly depressing. And of course, it was frequently done by folks who decried it's potential politicization by others.


I wasn't even thinking about the politicization of it --not that there wasn't that I'm sure, I just didn't hear it specifically from Cuomo or Bloomberg (other than during Bloomy mentioning it in passing during his rather tepid endorsement of Obama)-- it was more just the matter-of-fact-ness in the way the two talked about it, as if not only was the more general concept of increased storms due to global warming a settled issue but so was the "fact" that this particular storm wouldn't have happened without it. It's like, 'yeah, hurricanes happen all the time, but now that this one hit us it's got to be someone's fault'.

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 03 2012 12:27 PM
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Climate change may or may not be driving more frequent and more dangerous storms. What it is definitely doing is causing global temperatures to rise which causes glaciers to melt which causes the ocean levels to rise. The greatest cause of destruction both from Katrina and Sandy was not the wind and rain of the storm itself but coastal flooding. If the ocean levels rise further the next storm will cause a shit-ton more flooding. So while there may be a chance of more frequent and more violent storms due to climate change, I think the greater concern right now is that rising ocean levels could make what a generation or two ago may have been a mild, passing tropical storm far more dangerous since the most densely-populated parts of the world are in low-lying, coastal areas that no longer have any wiggle-room to escape the floods.

smg58
Nov 03 2012 12:58 PM
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Plus, the storm was sustained by water temperatures off the coast that were near-record level for this time of year. Katrina was fueled by record sea surface temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico. Climate scientists will tell you that one storm does not indicate a trend, but we've been using the sentence "one storm does not indicate a trend" uncomfortably often.

Frayed Knot
Nov 03 2012 03:17 PM
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And again, my purpose here wasn't to deny or even debate the existence and/or effects of global warming but rather to take issue with what I see/hear as the growing and almost automatic use of it as an explanation for just about any weather event or, seemingly with some folks, each and every variance from the norm. I haven't been alive for the entire history of the world but I have it on good authority that bad storms and tragic results from them occurred prior to the last decade and a half or so.

MFS62
Nov 03 2012 04:33 PM
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I think we should cut the scientific and political discussions into separate thread(s) or reserve them for another day. I'm more interested in finding out how the other CPF-ers who were in or near the path of the storm fared. For example, has anyone heard from Metfairy? Is she ok? I got a PM from Cooby, who said she's ok.

Later

Chad Ochoseis
Nov 03 2012 05:07 PM
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Metfairy's fine. The one guy who I haven't seen posting for a while is Swan Swan H.

MFS62
Nov 03 2012 06:09 PM
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Thanks.
Keep us posted.

Later

Swan Swan H
Nov 03 2012 07:04 PM
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Chad Ochoseis wrote:
Metfairy's fine. The one guy who I haven't seen posting for a while is Swan Swan H.


Thanks for the good thoughts, Chad. We live in Merrick, and were among the very luckiest of Long Islanders. Zero damage to the house, just 72 hours or so with no power during which we were still able to cook on the gas stove (and heat water for a makeshift shower). Hell, we watched a movie on my laptop each night and I even got to introduce our daughter to The Odd Couple movie. The closest we've had to anything crazy is that my wife ran out of gas this morning while trying to get gas in her car, and I had to scoot over with the half-gallon or so we had left in the can for the lawnmower and get her car back home.

I work for a computer services provider, so we were expected to get to work as best we could and I got in each day with little extra effort. My wife and daughter work for Hofstra, and my wife was off all week. Our daughter works at the Medical School, and they were back on Thursday.

Our son was in South Carolina (he works for Tough Mudder and had just finished an event) and had to drive back up, but he was in a hotel for the extra couple of days and more comfortable than folks up here.

We know so many people still without power, several who cannot return to their homes, and others who lost massive amounts of property and sentimental items. We escaped Irene and Sandy with nary a scratch. If it's because of where our house is located it's dumb luck, because the primary reason we chose this location is its proximity to the local bagel shop (more or less - we're a couple of blocks from the shopping area and six from the railroad station).

MFS62
Nov 03 2012 07:20 PM
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Good to hear you're ok, Swannie.
All CPF-ers accounted for?

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 04 2012 05:13 AM
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Batmags appears to have vanished, but pre-storm.

Methead
Nov 04 2012 07:18 AM
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Power just came back on around midnight last night after being out since Monday afternoon. I'm in Fairfield CT, which is still about 20% powerless but I assume that's mostly in the beach areas.

Didn't have any damage to the house, trees lost a couple branches but not a big deal. We had hot water and a gas stove, so it was nothing more than a minor annoyance compared to what a lot of people are going through.

No problems getting gas, although I was able to hold out until yesterday.

themetfairy
Nov 04 2012 09:09 AM
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An Interactive Look at the Jersey Shore Damage

Just heartbreaking....

G-Fafif
Nov 04 2012 12:19 PM
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The psychological damage to a relative I've watched intermittently crumble these past few days is pretty heartbreaking, too.

Chad Ochoseis
Nov 04 2012 12:59 PM
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The mayor of my city, who I used to think was OK, but sounds like he's losing grip wrote:
We need PSE&G to understand the urgency of restoring electrical power to our community. I am asking everyone with phone capability who reads this message to call PSE&G at 1-800-436-7734. That number again is 1-800-436-7734. Please call that number more than once to emphasize that power is still out in your neighborhood.


Link

It's entirely possible that the folks at PSE&G aren't actually aware that a storm hit New Jersey and that some places don't have power. So everyone in a city of 65,000 people who has a working phone needs to pester them. Cuz there's nothing like flooding an already stressed out agency with nuisance calls to make sure that you get put first on their list. It's not going to be the list you want to be on, but you'll be first.


OE - Swannie, glad things are good. Fafif, hang in there.

Ceetar
Nov 04 2012 07:31 PM
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grabbed some of that gas stuff, was nice. caught a rumor about the last rest stop on the garden state parkway, so dumped the 1.5 gallons into my 12 gallon tank and drove the 12 miles to the rest stop. Past a sign that read "rest area closed, no gas, do not line up". Ended up having to get Super ($3.90) but fine with me. (well, that and the $1.50 toll)

So that should get me through the week. If we're still in a gas crisis a week from now I have a feeling things are going to be pretty bad.

metirish
Nov 05 2012 08:25 AM
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Got gas this morning in Hawthorne, no lines at the Sunoco and Mobil.......contrast that with the BP down the street from me in Pelham Bay, got an email from Lorcan's school saying that the line at the BP station went all the way down St. Theresa Av. and that be prepared for that on Monday morning for drop off. I thought, great at least they have gas....I took a walk down there at 10pm last night and talked to two guys in line.....in fact no, there was no gas, the line formed there at 5:30 that morning in hopes of a gas delivery.....crazy. I walked down St. Theresa Av. and noticed some of the people asleep in there cars, one guy was out stretching and I asked him how long he had been there, 8am.....I called that BP thins morning, no gas and no idea when delivery was coming(sounded a bit flaky on that though).

Anyway, came to work in Valhalla, called the Mobil, gas with no lines, hit a Sunoco before the Mobil and filled up.

Ashie62
Nov 05 2012 05:27 PM
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The least the storm could have done is take down Citified.

Kong76
Nov 05 2012 05:29 PM
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Seems a bit extreme, there's been enough havoc for one
week already without such nonsense.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 05 2012 07:57 PM
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It appears-- at least from driving past it twice at around twilight-- that the storm knocked out either some of the letters in the external signage spelling "CitiField" or the power supply to them.

Edgy MD
Nov 05 2012 08:46 PM
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I'm rather curious about the impact on the Cyclones' stadium.

Ceetar
Nov 05 2012 09:16 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I'm rather curious about the impact on the Cyclones' stadium.


they're using it as a staging area for rescue vehicles I believe.

G-Fafif
Nov 06 2012 05:11 AM
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Every town or village on Long Island "feels like it's been forgotten" in the wake of the storm, but the residents of those towns or villages are strong/resilient/come together in a time of crisis.

SOURCE: Local news

cooby
Nov 06 2012 05:43 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
It appears-- at least from driving past it twice at around twilight-- that the storm knocked out either some of the letters in the external signage spelling "CitiField" or the power supply to them.



I was wondering how the field fared.

Ceetar
Nov 06 2012 06:44 AM
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cooby wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
It appears-- at least from driving past it twice at around twilight-- that the storm knocked out either some of the letters in the external signage spelling "CitiField" or the power supply to them.



I was wondering how the field fared.


I think I read they had it barricaded enough that everything inside was fine. The field is probably less of a concern than say the carpeting and stuff in the clubhouse.

Ashie62
Nov 06 2012 11:10 AM
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8 days of the basement flooded no power, no heat and such.

I would not make a good camper, I am a popsicle.

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 07 2012 10:25 AM
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MTA map looking much better.

cooby
Nov 07 2012 01:09 PM
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Is it snowing there now?

Swan Swan H
Nov 07 2012 01:16 PM
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It is where I am, but it's not sticking. It's 34 degrees and pretty windy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 07 2012 01:20 PM
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It's, like, slushy.

Edgy MD
Nov 07 2012 01:22 PM
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My brother posting from Bell Harbor.



Not quite understanding why relief efforts are centered on the peninsula. Shouldn't folks be staying/getting evacuated until some degree of services can be restored?

cooby
Nov 07 2012 01:29 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
It's, like, slushy.



Good night, nurse. You guys can't win.

Edgy, is that where he lives?

Edgy MD
Nov 07 2012 01:44 PM
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No, but it's where we were born and spiritually can't get away from, so he's helping in the relief efforts, God bless him.

cooby
Nov 07 2012 01:54 PM
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God bless him, indeed!

themetfairy
Nov 07 2012 02:32 PM
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G-Fafif
Nov 07 2012 03:11 PM
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LIPA gave a press briefing a little while ago that Omar and Jeffy would laugh at for its unprofessionalism.

cooby
Nov 07 2012 07:06 PM
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themetfairy wrote:



That is very beautiful

seawolf17
Nov 07 2012 07:11 PM
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Look, folks, I know there's weather out there. But it's not that bad, and we just had an entire week of classes canceled. So no, we're not canceling classes tonight or tomorrow.

themetfairy
Nov 07 2012 09:05 PM
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Thank you cooby :)

MFS62
Nov 07 2012 09:10 PM
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My usual 50 minute drive home took 5 1/2 hours tonight because of that very pretty slush.

Later

Ceetar
Nov 07 2012 09:22 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
My usual 50 minute drive home took 5 1/2 hours tonight because of that very pretty slush.

Later


I suspect it had more to do with the other drivers. That's horrible.

metirish
Nov 08 2012 06:36 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
8 days of the basement flooded no power, no heat and such.

I would not make a good camper, I am a popsicle.




this is just fucking awful.......still no power Ashie?

I know a guy from home who's a LIPPA costumer, no power and seemingly no answers...


Coumo fired his NY OEM chief yesterday, he got busted for sending crews to his own house to remove trees.......jerk

Frayed Knot
Nov 08 2012 06:37 AM
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At least Chris Mathews is "so glad" for last week's storm.

metirish
Nov 08 2012 06:38 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Look, folks, I know there's weather out there. But it's not that bad, and we just had an entire week of classes canceled. So no, we're not canceling classes tonight or tomorrow.



thank you


Left work at 4 yesterday like always, sprain brook parkway was awful, no visibility, so happy to get to the cross bronx and then the hutch.

smg58
Nov 08 2012 07:06 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Look, folks, I know there's weather out there. But it's not that bad, and we just had an entire week of classes canceled. So no, we're not canceling classes tonight or tomorrow.


Yes, I just drove in through it, thanks a lot. :-)

G-Fafif
Nov 08 2012 09:57 AM
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My sister and brother-in-law are in their tenth day sans power. They and their block are waiting for LIPA's assessors/inspectors to certify whether their homes are safe to be "energized," which is the opposite of the state the residents of said block have been in. From what I can gather, it's a situation being replayed on many blocks on the South Shore of Long Island. LIPA had said, at the storm's outset, seven to ten days for just about everybody, which sounded like playing for time, and it was. Yesterday's LIPA briefing could've been held by Sgt. Schultz, as they knew no-o-o-o-othing.

Sandy was framed as the worst storm ever, so it would figure that the damage would not be easily resolved and the recovery time would not be instantaneous (and this is a region not famous for its patience). But geez this is a utility that, one year after Irene blew its reputation to bits, was overwhelmed going into this thing.

(Though I've got my lights and I'm very grateful for that aspect of LIPA's service.)

Ceetar
Nov 08 2012 01:02 PM
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cooby
Nov 09 2012 07:11 AM
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Like!

Edgy MD
Nov 09 2012 07:25 AM
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Have to get on your belly in the snow to get that shot.

Ceetar
Nov 09 2012 07:27 AM
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Have to get on your belly in the snow to get that shot.


not that I'm against flopping around in the snow like a soccer player, That's all on a picnic table, so I just had to crouch. :-D


Benjamin Grimm
Nov 09 2012 07:32 AM
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It's also possible to take a photo without having the camera directly in front of your face.

metsmarathon
Nov 09 2012 09:07 AM
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especially if its a digital point and shoot!

Ceetar
Nov 09 2012 09:10 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
especially if its a digital point and shoot!


or a cellphone with no viewfinder!

G-Fafif
Nov 11 2012 04:49 PM
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13 days later, my sister got her power back. Or half of it. Their basement is toast, electrically, and their boiler is out. But lights and Internet upstairs, which surely beats nada.

LIPA (or "LIPER" in the inevitable angry-resident interview airing on News12 Lawn Guyland at regular intervals) is a communications disgrace never mind how long it took to plug people in.

themetfairy
Nov 11 2012 05:50 PM
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At least now she can get a space heater. Not ideal, but better than freezing inside the house.

Ceetar
Nov 11 2012 09:03 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
13 days later, my sister got her power back. Or half of it. Their basement is toast, electrically, and their boiler is out. But lights and Internet upstairs, which surely beats nada.

LIPA (or "LIPER" in the inevitable angry-resident interview airing on News12 Lawn Guyland at regular intervals) is a communications disgrace never mind how long it took to plug people in.


I heard today that they literally RAN OUT of telephone poles. Just hearsay..but that seems rather like a restaurant not having enough forks or something.

seawolf17
Nov 12 2012 06:19 AM
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We went to a KFC one night for dinner and they ran out of chicken.

Rumor or not, it was Cuomo who stated -- or at least publicized -- the "ran out of poles" thing.

Frayed Knot
Nov 12 2012 06:35 AM
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NY Post -- A Long Island Power Authority official told a crowd of 300 Rockaway residents that they would need to hire a licensed city electrician to inspect their homes before LIPA could restore power, and suggested the homeowners [u:2l634zty]print out inspection forms from the Internet[/u:2l634zty].

Edgy MD
Nov 12 2012 07:21 AM
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We're a week away from a riot.

Edgy MD
Nov 12 2012 10:30 AM
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Hurricane food drive Wednesday from 9-5 at Shmiti Field. Bring 10 items or more of nonperishable food, get voucher for 2 April tickets.

Nymr83
Nov 12 2012 02:56 PM
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Mets finding creative ways to fill those empty April seats, will probably make a profit on giving them away once they charge parking and concessions.

themetfairy
Nov 16 2012 10:26 AM
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It's two and a half weeks later - how is everyone doing?

We were more inconvenienced than anything - five days without power and we had to throw out a lot of food. Other than that, we did fine - no flooding, only one downed tree branch (not near the house, although on top of the spot where we used to have a swingset) and a lost week of school (somewhat ameliorated by the cancellation of the NJ Teachers Convention, which allowed the district to have classes last Thursday and Friday). I went running today on a route I hadn't run since before the storm and had to duck under a couple of precariously balanced branches (I should have just run around them. Next week I'll run in the street instead of on the sidewalk for that stretch). Overall, I consider myself very lucky.

Edgy MD
Nov 16 2012 10:29 AM
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Haven't heard from sharpie of late, have we?

Ceetar
Nov 16 2012 11:53 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Haven't heard from sharpie of late, have we?


chimed in about Costa Rica being beautiful Wednesday evening.

Edgy MD
Nov 16 2012 12:00 PM
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Coolio. Thanks. Was worried.

Chad Ochoseis
Nov 16 2012 05:29 PM
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A friend of mine in Long Beach wrote:
Electricity came back just this past Tuesday. Heat and hot water (new boiler) won't come untill Dec 3! We are hanging in there but it's strange.Using kerosene heaters and waiting on a few electric ones we ordered. Everyone's belongings are still out in the street, waiting to be taken away. We were very lucky in that we just lost the basement and the car. Still have to rip out the drywall, but everything else was taken out. I go to Manhattan and everyone thinks L.B. is all cleaned up;they have moved on. It feels like I live in a different world. They are shocked when I tell them the situation.

Ashie62
Nov 16 2012 07:49 PM
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To rub it in....2 weeks of heck, ass end of double pneumonia and now the xray of my lung shows a spot that requires a cat scan.

Anybody familiar with an epicardial fat pad???

themetfairy
Nov 16 2012 08:43 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
To rub it in....2 weeks of heck, ass end of double pneumonia and now the xray of my lung shows a spot that requires a cat scan.

Anybody familiar with an epicardial fat pad???


Apparently it's common, and not a problem.

Ashie62
Nov 17 2012 09:17 AM
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Thank you!!!!

themetfairy
Nov 17 2012 10:43 AM
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You're very welcome. This is what librarians do :)

cooby
Nov 19 2012 11:53 AM
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Geez Ashie, take care!

Ashie62
Nov 19 2012 07:42 PM
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cooby wrote:
Geez Ashie, take care!


It gets better! Found out today I have thrush. A fungal illness common to people with compromised immune systems.

Nymr83
Nov 20 2012 07:49 AM
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Plenty of downtown businesses still without power in the area between the SI ferry, wall street and the south street seaport. Including the dunkin donuts on liberty street. Dunkin donuts really needs to be con ed's priority right now :)

Edgy MD
Nov 20 2012 11:44 AM
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Met figures planning a visit to Long Beach next week.

Jeff Wilpon and Johan Santana spotted in Coney Island distributing supplies.

sharpie
Nov 20 2012 11:49 AM
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Just read this and thanks for your concern, Edgy.

No damage for me other than a tree falling and landing on my car which gave it a dent in the roof but it still runs. 17-year old car so what's one more ding?

Edgy MD
Nov 20 2012 12:26 PM
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Glad to have you back.

Mart Harvey reportedly slinging hot meals in Rockaway as we speak.

Ceetar
Nov 20 2012 12:26 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Met figures planning a visit to Long Beach next week.

Jeff Wilpon and Johan Santana spotted in Coney Island distributing supplies.


Johan was out and about helping last week too wasn't he?

Harvey too:

The Mets are providing 300 hot meals to serve to Far Rockaway residents continuing the organization’s efforts to help New York recover from Hurricane Sandy.

The United Methodist Center has been an active part of the Far Rockaway community for 20 years serving hot meals and pantry items to the underserved in the community. The center also offers spiritual guidance once a week.

The Mets are working with long-time partners Rock and Wrap It Up! to distribute the meals. Rock and Wrap It Up! is the premier food recovery charity in sports.

Swan Swan H
Nov 20 2012 12:26 PM
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Some Mets folks trying to give a hand.



Jay Horwitz, Matt Harvey, Jeff Wilpon and Dave Howard were among the Mets employees on hand serving hot meals at the United Methodist Center in Far Rockaway on Tuesday. The soup kitchen feeds the area needy throughout the year, in part through unsold food delivered from Citi Field after games.

G-Fafif
Dec 06 2012 10:43 AM
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I was in my hometown of Long Beach last week with Jon Niese, Mrs. Niese to be, Jay Horwitz, a clutch of beat reporters, some camera crews and a lot of people still reeling from a month-old storm. That experience, paired with a visit to the City by the Sea three months earlier (when my companions were Howie Rose, Josh Lewin and a host of Mets by proxy), is chronicled here.