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GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

cooby Nov 06 2012 05:44 AM

Have you voted yet?

themetfairy Nov 06 2012 06:35 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Yes, I have :)

Ceetar Nov 06 2012 06:40 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

no.

themetfairy Nov 06 2012 06:41 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

D-Dad and I actually went to the polling place together. I'm wracking my brain, but I think this was the first time that we voted together since living in NJ.

Frayed Knot Nov 06 2012 06:54 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

From what I understand, much of the country voted like six months ago.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 06 2012 06:56 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

No early voting in Pennsylvania. I swung by the school to vote at 7:15 this morning and the pre-work lines were crazy long. I'll go back again at around 11 when the lines should be a lot shorter.

MFS62 Nov 06 2012 07:10 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Frayed Knot wrote: From what I understand, much of the country voted like six months ago. The two best ways to vote - early and often. Later

Fman99 Nov 06 2012 07:41 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Voting after work today. Taking one of the Fkids along with me, and Fwife will take the other when she goes tonight after dinner.

G-Fafif Nov 06 2012 07:46 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Got out and voted. Definitely an uptick in activity (and confusion), given the displaced-voter factor. Somebody from the Rockaways was voting in front of me here in Baldwin -- which Sandy made possible if not ideal. Always jarring when they reapportion every ten years and you find out you live in newly numbered districts.

Edgy MD Nov 06 2012 08:02 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Usually ethically cloudy, too.

Swan Swan H Nov 06 2012 08:05 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Done. No lines - walked right up and cast my ballot. I miss the old lever machines.

Mets – Willets Point Nov 06 2012 08:40 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Voted, for what it's worth.

metsmarathon Nov 06 2012 08:51 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

i find it slightly odd that my polling station is, as many others in my area are, in a church.

cooby Nov 06 2012 08:53 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

I'm done. I was number 229 in my little burg :)

Swan Swan H Nov 06 2012 09:11 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

metsmarathon wrote: i find it slightly odd that my polling station is, as many others in my area are, in a church. Yeah. I'd have felt funny voting for that Kenyan Communist Nazi Muslim in an American church.

metsguyinmichigan Nov 06 2012 09:18 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Done! I was number 255 at 9:30. I miss the old voting machines, too

Vic Sage Nov 06 2012 09:41 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

After work; they changed my polling place to the High School, which is enormous. i hope i can find the voting booths. But i'm still undecided voter... Jill Stein or Rocky Anderson? Decisions, decisions...

duan Nov 06 2012 09:47 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

just a quick question - is the queue to vote actually a common phenomenon? - it gets referenced a bit in the media here since one of the GW Bush elections where they showed footage of people queueing 'past polling time' in an effort to vote. It seems kinda fucked up that you would have something that potentially reduces peoples capacity to vote.

Vic Sage Nov 06 2012 10:04 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

We have had LOTS of things that reduce a person's capacity to vote, from the old poll tax and literacy tests to bullshit bureaucratic hoops designed to suppress the vote among "certain" demographics (even going to the extent of the Ohio governor insisting on a process that his state courts have deemed illegal), to tying up traffic in an area to make it harder for people to get to the poles, to hiding or throwing away ballots, or just not counting them, to encouraging the vote of dead folks. How about instead we: * Get the big money payoffs out of politics by implementing public funding of election campaigns, * Reverse the Citizens United ruling to revoke corporate personhood, and amend our Constitution to make clear that corporations are not persons and money is not speech, * Restore the right to run for office and eliminate unopposed races by removing ballot access barriers, * Require the use of auditable, hand-counted paper ballots in all local, state, and federal elections, * Guarantee equal access to the ballot and to the debates to all qualified candidates, * Provide equal and free access to the airways for all candidates, not just those with big campaign warchests, * Require that all votes are counted before election results are released, * Replace partisan oversight of elections with non-partisan election commissions, * Celebrate our democratic aspirations by making Election Day a national holiday, * Bring simplified, safe same-day voter registration to the nation so that no qualified voter is barred from the polls, and * Protect our right to vote by supporting a “Right to Vote Amendment,” to clarify to the Supreme Court that yes, we do have a constitutional right to vote. -- from the platform of candidate Jill Stein, Green Party

Benjamin Grimm Nov 06 2012 10:05 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

I returned at 11:15 and the line was very short. I think the problem is that so many people don't work close to where they live that they have to squeeze in the voting in the narrow window when the polls are open before and after work. And that's when the lines get long.

Frayed Knot Nov 06 2012 10:29 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

In the spirit of 'early voting' I went out and cast a ballot for William Howard Taft.

duan Nov 06 2012 10:58 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I returned at 11:15 and the line was very short. I think the problem is that so many people don't work close to where they live that they have to squeeze in the voting in the narrow window when the polls are open before and after work. And that's when the lines get long. well that's a reasonable enough cause for a problem, but it's could be exasperated by the closing times that seem to be in place - here we keep the polling booths open till 10pm - obviously it wouldn't suit the election junkies on this side of the atlantic for polls only to be closing at 3am our time, but I don't think ye should really be concerned about that.

TransMonk Nov 06 2012 10:59 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Done. In and out in less than 5 minutes.

Ashie62 Nov 06 2012 11:07 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Dont kmow where to vote..Have limited info...Still no power or services in parsippany NJ

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 06 2012 11:13 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

I returned at 11:15 and the line was very short. I think the problem is that so many people don't work close to where they live that they have to squeeze in the voting in the narrow window when the polls are open before and after work. And that's when the lines get long. well that's a reasonable enough cause for a problem, but it's could be exasperated by the closing times that seem to be in place - here we keep the polling booths open till 10pm - obviously it wouldn't suit the election junkies on this side of the atlantic for polls only to be closing at 3am our time, but I don't think ye should really be concerned about that. While most of the last-minute, must-show-state-ID stuff that various Secys-of-State-- three guesses what party they share-- were trying to slip into this year's electoral procedures have been knocked down by the courts for this election, there's apparently nothing to stop poll workers from asking for it. (They just can't actually prevent people from voting if the answer is "no.") TL:DR-- Electioneering outside PA polling places is illegal; voter intimidation inside is legal, and in fact encouraged. Voted this morning. Easy breezy ten-minute wait.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 06 2012 11:14 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Ashie62 wrote: Dont kmow where to vote..Have limited info...Still no power or services in parsippany NJ http://www.morriselections.org/towns/parsippany.asp https://voter.njsvrs.com/PublicAccess/j ... Search.jsp http://yourfuckingpollingplace.com/

Ceetar Nov 06 2012 11:23 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: While most of the last-minute, must-show-state-ID stuff that various Secys-of-State-- three guesses what party they share-- were trying to slip into this year's electoral procedures have been knocked down by the courts for this election, there's apparently nothing to stop poll workers from asking for it. (They just can't actually prevent people from voting if the answer is "no.") How, besides knowing that you're registered to vote at that location, is there any real test that it's you casting the vote? What's to stop me from picking up my neighbor's mail to get his name, and walking in and voting for him?

Kong76 Nov 06 2012 11:47 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Voted, gave blood, donated my organs (upon death) .... not that anyone would want my organs when I'm done with them. Well, maybe one ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 06 2012 11:47 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Ceetar wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: While most of the last-minute, must-show-state-ID stuff that various Secys-of-State-- three guesses what party they share-- were trying to slip into this year's electoral procedures have been knocked down by the courts for this election, there's apparently nothing to stop poll workers from asking for it. (They just can't actually prevent people from voting if the answer is "no.") How, besides knowing that you're registered to vote at that location, is there any real test that it's you casting the vote? What's to stop me from picking up my neighbor's mail to get his name, and walking in and voting for him? Signature matching. Bank statements. The penalty (each instance of voter-fraud is punishable by five years/$10K), making voter-fraud a REALLY iffy risk-reward proposition (putting it charitably). And the "How do you prevent voter fraud question" is a gigantic smokescreen. There have been fewer actual credible cases of in-person voter fraud in the last ten years then there have been states that passed voter-ID laws. If there isn't a real in-person fraud issue to combat... why are so many states pushing so hard for these laws? And why are they all led by members of one particular party?

Swan Swan H Nov 06 2012 11:51 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Kong76 wrote: Voted, gave blood, donated my organs (upon death) .... not that anyone would want my organs when I'm done with them. Well, maybe one ... The Farfisa?

Edgy MD Nov 06 2012 11:53 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

I've seen that "fewer credible cases" thing. I get the point, and obviously anti-voter fraud legislation can and is used as anti-voter legislation. But I still question the numbers. I mice-elf blew the whistle on a neighbor who had his dog ("Packy Lamont") registered to vote. And yes, Kit Bond did trumpet my busybody work on the floor of the Senate. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/596116085

Ceetar Nov 06 2012 12:05 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Signature matching. Bank statements. The penalty (each instance of voter-fraud is punishable by five years/$10K), making voter-fraud a REALLY iffy risk-reward proposition (putting it charitably). And the "How do you prevent voter fraud question" is a gigantic smokescreen. There have been fewer actual credible cases of in-person voter fraud in the last ten years then there have been states that passed voter-ID laws. If there isn't a real in-person fraud issue to combat... why are so many states pushing so hard for these laws? And why are they all led by members of one particular party? random volunteers (nor cashiers) are not qualified to match signatures. bank statements are pretty easily obtained, mail with address on it, etc. Not that I'm suggesting we need ID laws, specifically license ones anyway, and the push often seems aimed at keeping certain groups of people away from polls that tend to vote a certain way.

Kong76 Nov 06 2012 12:16 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Swan Swan H wrote: The Farfisa? The Korg!

G-Fafif Nov 06 2012 12:20 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

As I stood and waited for names to be looked up and directions given by well-meaning but easily overwhelmed poll-workers who had twelve hours to go on their shifts, thus guaranteeing the overwhelming was just beginning, I was thinking, "Who has the patience or energy to put up with what it would take to commit vote fraud?" One trip per election to exercise our beautiful, Constitutional right in the face of Brigadoonish bureaucracy is plenty.

Vic Sage Nov 06 2012 01:08 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

i don't remember alot of bureaucracy in BRIGADOON. Mostly just singing and dancing to a Lerner & Loewe score.

seawolf17 Nov 06 2012 01:44 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Swan Swan H wrote: Done. No lines - walked right up and cast my ballot. I miss the old lever machines. Me too. Our machine broke this morning, so they had us feed it into an alternate machine and promised us they'd keep trying all day, and if not, hand-count them. Such crap. We have had LOTS of things that reduce a person's capacity to vote, from the old poll tax and literacy tests to bullshit bureaucratic hoops designed to suppress the vote among "certain" demographics (even going to the extent of the Ohio governor insisting on a process that his state courts have deemed illegal), to tying up traffic in an area to make it harder for people to get to the poles, to hiding or throwing away ballots, or just not counting them, to encouraging the vote of dead folks. How about instead we: * Get the big money payoffs out of politics by implementing public funding of election campaigns, * Reverse the Citizens United ruling to revoke corporate personhood, and amend our Constitution to make clear that corporations are not persons and money is not speech, * Restore the right to run for office and eliminate unopposed races by removing ballot access barriers, * Require the use of auditable, hand-counted paper ballots in all local, state, and federal elections, * Guarantee equal access to the ballot and to the debates to all qualified candidates, * Provide equal and free access to the airways for all candidates, not just those with big campaign warchests, * Require that all votes are counted before election results are released, * Replace partisan oversight of elections with non-partisan election commissions, * Celebrate our democratic aspirations by making Election Day a national holiday, * Bring simplified, safe same-day voter registration to the nation so that no qualified voter is barred from the polls, and * Protect our right to vote by supporting a “Right to Vote Amendment,” to clarify to the Supreme Court that yes, we do have a constitutional right to vote. -- from the platform of candidate Jill Stein, Green Party I've voted Green in every Presidential election since 2000.

Ceetar Nov 06 2012 01:47 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Require that all votes are counted before election results are released, I disagree with this one, I want the results released DIRECTLY to whoever wants them. Redundancy.

Mets – Willets Point Nov 06 2012 01:56 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

seawolf17 wrote: I've voted Green in every Presidential election since 2000. I couldn't vote for McKinney because of the 9/11 Truther & other crackpot stuff, but I've voted Green in the other three elections.

Vic Sage Nov 06 2012 01:58 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

I disagree with this one, I want the results released DIRECTLY to whoever wants them. Redundancy. early reporting skews results. you can give the results DIRECTLY to whoever wants them AFTER the polls are all closed.

Ceetar Nov 06 2012 02:20 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Vic Sage wrote: I disagree with this one, I want the results released DIRECTLY to whoever wants them. Redundancy. early reporting skews results. you can give the results DIRECTLY to whoever wants them AFTER the polls are all closed. more so than what the 'exit polls' are saying all along? we're doing that anyway, might as well let people skew the results with the correct data. or release it in packets/bunches. Or release it to NOBODY and then all at once to everybody.

Mets – Willets Point Nov 06 2012 02:32 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

In all likelihood I will be going to bed early tonight, but this may be fun for those of you staying up to watch the results come in.

cooby Nov 06 2012 03:16 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

That's cute :) I hate to think it really comes down to PA because if the wrong guy wins you all will be mad at Ben Grimm and me

cooby Nov 06 2012 03:18 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Kong76 wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: The Farfisa? The Korg!

Mets – Willets Point Nov 06 2012 09:14 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Still waiting on the Penis of America to rise up and be counted.

Mets – Willets Point Nov 06 2012 09:19 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Or I guess Ohio can make that irrelevant.

metsmarathon Nov 06 2012 09:26 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

we brought minimm with us to vote today. last presidential election, we walked in, voted immediately, and walked out. this time, we had a 40 minute wait. about 40 voters were ahead of us, with two polling machines. overall, while minimm was generally upset with the waiting thing, we did get a chance to play with two of his cars, and entertained a few people arpund us. probably annoyed a bunch of people too, but fuck 'em, he's two and was reasonably well behaved and not screaming or bawling or running around. then i carried minimm with me when i voted. he helped me by telling me to pick one, and then to move on to teh next page each time. he also helped me review my ballot and then cast the electrons into the ether. the only downside, other than the wait, was we didn't get any cool "i voted" sticker. i was bummed. minimm didn't know what he was missing.

Mets – Willets Point Nov 07 2012 07:58 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Is there no OBAMA WINS!!! thread? Old timers should know to which famed thread I allude.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2012 08:09 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

No, but Amblood has accepted my friend request.

Mets – Willets Point Nov 07 2012 09:32 AM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: No, but Amblood has accepted my friend request. I hope he uses the Ambler four-pack as his Facebook image.

Ceetar Nov 07 2012 05:06 PM Re: GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

he two Democrats defeated incumbent Freeholder Robert Hermansen and his running-mate, Margaret "Peg" Watkins. Tanelli and Zur received 159,522 and 154,626 votes, respectively, to incumbent Hermansen's 127,853 and Watkins' 124,571, with 99 percent of precincts reporting. I got a flyer from Hermansen and Watkins in the mail today urging me to re-elect them.