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Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2012 10:33 AM

To paraphrase that old commercial for the place that apparently needs to update its brand/logo: It’s time to make the Rankings You should all know how this works at this point. Rank from 30 down to 1, based on actual contributions (as opposed to say expectations or per salary) as to who on this year’s squad added most or least to the team and be williing to discuss and/or defend your choices. Or simply join in on the banter. Just hashing out who was the season’s 2nd best position player could be a whole discussion just on its own. There were 47 fellows lucky enough to don the team colors this year from which to choose your personal top 30. 22 position players (listed in order of ABs) WRIGHT -- MURPHY -- DAVIS -- TEJADA -- DUDA TORRES -- HAIRSTON -- THOLE -- NIEUWENHUIS -- BAY BAXTER -- VALDESPIN -- CEDENO -- TURNER -- NICKEAS SHOPPACH -- QUINTANILLA -- JOHNSON -- ROTTINO -- LEWIS LUTZ -- SATIN And 27 pitchers (in order by IPs) DICKEY -- NIESE -- SANTANA -- YOUNG -- GEE HEFNER -- PARNELL -- RRAMIREZ -- HARVEY -- RAUCH ACOSTA -- BATISITA -- FRANCISCO -- BYRDAK -- EDGIN McHUGH -- ERANIREZ -- PELFREY -- MEJIA -- CARSON FAMILIA -- HAMPSON -- SCHWINDEN -- BEATO -- CARRASCO EGBERT -- OLSON

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2012 10:40 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Personally I've gotten as far as: DICKEY WRIGHT NIESE for my top three, but then get a bit lost after that and would love it if someone could talk me out of naming Ike Davis as the 4th best NYM player of 2012 Here's my thinking on the position players at the moment -- * Wright - 1st half MVP candidate had a rather ordinary 2nd half but still led the Mets in virtually everything (Hits, 2Bs, RBIs, RC, RC/27, and even SBs) * Davis - Seems odd to call him the 2nd best offensive player of 2012 after calling for his demotion early in the year. But between the power, the ridiculous knack for displaying that power with runners on base, and his high walk totals to somewhat negate the bad BA he overcomes his flaws better than the other flawed candidates * Murphy - Lots of doubles but virtually no HR power and surprisingly few walks. Was able to hang at 2nd base all year without totally embarrassiing himself, surprising several of us here and maybe on his own team too. * Tejada - Good BA + very good defense vs no power + missed a month * Hairston - Not a complete player by any means, but having half your hits go for extra-bases while filling in decently at all 3 OF positions has its value * Duda - Not enough power considering the downside of his defense and low BA * Baxter - More RC/G than anyone except for Wright. If he could only hit LHP (1-for-19 w/8 Ks) he might actually earn himself more ABs and do more damage. * Nieuwenhuis - An exciting start but then couldn’t adjust to pitchers’ adjustments * Torres - Ummmm, he played CF * Valdespin - A handful of huge moments * Thole - The sad part is that this was the best of our catching corps * Cedeno - Decent back-up all-around infielder * Turner - Similar to Cedeno but with a lesser glove * Shoppach - Not K-ing in 1/3 of your ABs would be a nice start toward improvement * Bay - There’s no hiding a .165 BA * Johnson - He was better than Nickeas * Nickeas - He was Nickeas Quintanilla, Lewis, Rottino, Lutz & Satin played too briefly to contemplate.

Swan Swan H Oct 29 2012 10:54 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 30 2012 11:21 AM

30. Wright 29. Dickey 28. Niese 27. Davis 26. Tejada 25. Murphy 24. Parnell 23. Santana 22. Harvey 21. Hairston 20. Rauch 19. Young 18. Torres 17. Baxter 16. Thole 15. Gee 14. Cedeno 13. Turner 12. Byrdak 11. Duda 10. Francisco 9. R. Ramirez 8. Nieuwenhuis 7. Valdespin 6. Hampson 5. Quintanilla 4. Shoppach 3. Carson 2. Bay 1. Johnson OE: Edited to proper 30-1 format, lest anyone think that I ranked Rob Johnson first.

TransMonk Oct 29 2012 03:44 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 02 2012 10:53 AM

30 R.A. Dickey 29 David Wright 28 Jonathon Niese 27 Ike Davis 26 Daniel Murphy 25 Scott Hairston 24 Ruben Tejada 23 Bobby Parnell 22 Lucas Duda 21 Andres Torres 20 Chris Young 19 Dillon Gee 18 Johan Santana 17 Kirk Nieuwenhuis 16 Matt Harvey 15 Mike Baxter 14 Jon Rauch 13 Josh Thole 12 Jeremy Hefner 11 Ronny Cedeno 10 Jordany Valdespin 9 Ramon Ramirez 8 Justin Turner 7 Tim Byrdak 6 Mike Pelfrey 5 Jason Bay 4 Frank Francisco 3 Manny Acosta 2 Miguel Batista 1 Omar Quintanilla

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2012 05:01 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

PITCHERS: Dickey - No explanations needed Niese - Solid season and this time went wire to wire with it Santana - HIs final 5 horrid starts ruined all the stats from what had been a great 1st half Gee - Of the three half-season starters he had the best ERA & WHiP, just not as good a peak as Santana Young - A decent, even if not great, 20 starts, although that’s 16 more than we got last time. Parnell - The best of a bad pen even if he occasionally frustrated the hell out of me Harvey - 10 starts, gave up 3 runs or fewer in 9 of them. He’d win this if we were voting on future points. Rauch - Lousy early on, but the most dependable reliever over the 2nd half even though he was at times inexplicably limited to 1 and 2 batter stints Byrdak - As the only LHR for a long stretch he held up his end quite well while he was there Francisco - It’s tough for a full-time closer to finish this low. FF somehow managed. R. Ramirez - Spent most of the year being neither good enough to want to see come out of the pen nor bad enough to want off the team Edgin - More or less was the back half of Byrdak, just for a shorter span Hefner - A handful of good games but more bad than good Pelfrey - Good news: Nice three starts. Bad news: Only three of them Acosta - Gets points for being a workhorse but points off for being a bad one Batista - Appeared in 30 games, started 5, finished 7. That’s all I got Carson - 17 appearances, 13 innings, mixed results. McHugh - For one glorious start Familia - Promising looking, but not enough in this season to rank any higher Hampson - Actually pitched well when he was in there, but 10 innings over 13 appearances only gets you so far Schwinden - 3 games, 2 starts, and 13 runs allowed Beato - Started late, seemed tentative when he did pitch, then was traded for some reason Carrasco - No soup for you Egbert -- Olson -- Someone will need to refresh my memory as to who these guys were. I think BB-Ref is making them up. And all mashed together ... 30 - DICKEY 29 - WRIGHT 28 - NIESE 27 - DAVIS 26 - MURPHY 25 - SANTANA 24 - TEJADA 23 - HAIRSTON 22 - GEE 21 - YOUNG 20 - DUDA 19 - PARNELL 18 - HARVEY 17 - NIEUWENHUIS 16 - RAUCH 15 - BAXTER 14 - TORRES 13 - BYRDAK 12 - FRANCISCO 11 - VALDESPIN 10 - R.RAMIREZ 9 - THOLE 8 - EDGIN 7 - CEDENO 6 - HEFNER 5 - TURNER 4 - PELFREY 3 - SHOPPACH 2 - ACOSTA 1 - BAY

Vic Sage Oct 31 2012 11:33 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings Edited 6 time(s), most recently on Dec 06 2012 11:16 AM

------- (great) 30 - DICKEY 29 - WRIGHT -------- (good) 28 - NIESE ---------(ok) 27 - MURPHY 26 - DAVIS 25 - HAIRSTON 24 - SANTANA 23 - HARVEY 22 - TEJADA --------- (not bad) 21 - GEE 20 - PARNELL 19 - YOUNG 18 - RAUCH 17 - DUDA 16 - BAXTER -------- (increasingly bad, inconsistent or absent) 15 - NIEUWENHUIS 14 - VALDESPIN 13 - CEDENO 12 - BYRDAK 11 - TURNER 10 - FRANCISCO 9 - TORRES 8 - THOLE 7 - PELFREY 6 - QUINTANILLA -------- (from bad to worse) 5 - R.RAMIREZ 4 - HEFNER 3 - EDGIN 2 - ACOSTA 1 - BAY hitters not making my list (50+ ABs): Nickeas, Shoppach, R.Johnson [coincidentally, all our backup catchers] pitchers not making my list (20+ IP): Batista, E.Ramirez, McHugh

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 31 2012 01:11 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

30. Wright 29. Dickey * 28. Niese 27. Hairston 26. Parnell 25. Murphy 24. Davis 23. Rauch 22. Duda * 21. Harvey 20. Tejada 19. Baxter 18. Nieuwenhuis 17. Cedeno 16. Turner 15. R. Ramirez 14. Young 13. Gee 12. Valdespin 11. Byrdak 10. Santana 9. Hefner 8. Francisco 7. Edgin 6. Acosta * 5. Torres 4. Thole 3. Bay 2. Quintanilla 1. Pelfrey *** 0. Rottino -1. Batista -2. Hampson -3. Carson -4. E. Ramirez -5. Shoppach -6. McHugh -7. Mejia -8. Familia -9. Nickeas -10. Johnson -11. Lewis -12 Beato -13. Schwinden -14. Lutz -15. Satin -16. Egbert -17. Olson -18. Carrasco

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 31 2012 01:16 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

I don;t think I've ever ranked a relief pitcher as high as Parnell here but it's relative to his teammates. I am harder on Santana than most of you so far.

Vic Sage Nov 01 2012 08:38 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

you're harder on Santana than ANY of us so far. but that's ok, that's why we do this. To wash out the "outliers". I thought long and hard about Santana. I could've talked myself into ranking him anywhere from 24 to 15. Based on his final numbers, he should be toward the bottom of that range, maybe lower (as low as 10? maybe). But his numbers were skewed by some really bad starts toward the end, where he was clearly pitching through injury. And any guy who gives us the 1st no-hitter in our history gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

Ceetar Nov 01 2012 08:43 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Vic Sage wrote: you're harder on Santana than ANY of us so far. but that's ok, that's why we do this. To wash out the "outliers". I thought long and hard about Santana. I could've talked myself into ranking him anywhere from 24 to 15. Based on his final numbers, he should be toward the bottom of that range, maybe lower (as low as 10? maybe). But his numbers were skewed by some really bad starts toward the end, where he was clearly pitching through injury. And any guy who gives us the 1st no-hitter in our history gets the benefit of the doubt from me. it's certainly interesting. If it was just about this season, and there was no other Mets years involved, we'd still put Johan Santana pretty high on the "greatest Mets" list just off the no-hitter. The numbers look bad but the numbers were really good through June. But the bad numbers coincide with the Mets collapse too so they did have a pretty big contribution, regardless of the injury bit. (We don't give Reed Johnson enough hate btw) I need to get this bit done myself now that I'm at work and have power here and all that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 01 2012 08:46 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

I'm also way high on Hairston and Rauch and low on Tejada. Hmmm

Ceetar Nov 01 2012 08:49 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm also way high on Hairston and Rauch and low on Tejada. Hmmm that seems right to me.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 01 2012 08:53 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Do your Top 30 and see. I did not peek at the others before I did my list (which btw was constructed in 3 buckets of position players, starters and relievers and combined with the idea of aligning the "tiers." I wouldn't consider Santana Gee or Young in the same group as Dickey nor Niese who clearly established a level for themselves.

Swan Swan H Nov 01 2012 09:28 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

I see that I have Duda way lower than anyone else, but his abysmal (and, to my mind, indifferent) defense in RF really colors my rating.

Vic Sage Nov 01 2012 10:06 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

if he missed the same number of balls but seemed to care more about it, you'd rank him higher?

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2012 10:20 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

As compared to the (still emerging) consensus: Swan is low on not only Duda but also Nieuwenhuis (clearly he hates lefty-swinging OFers) and also Hefner who he left off the top-30 entirely. He's higher than most for Thole and for relievers Hampson & Carson who got their only points from his ballot. JCL is low not just on Johan but on starters in general (Gee & Young included) while higher than most on relievers and backup infielders FK balances things out by going low on those same backups (Turner & Cedeno) and is highest on Frank-Frank Monk goes high on fill-in starters Batista & Hefner, but low on relievers like Rauch & Byrdak Vic is lowest on Tejada, highest on Pelfrey Not that any of this means you need to change your votes in some sort of conformity ritual. Merely pointing out the bigger variations for entertainment purposes only, or as places to either re-check your initial impressions and/or dig in your heels and argue your case.

seawolf17 Nov 01 2012 10:34 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Game on. Dickey Wright Murphy Davis Tejada Hairston Niese Santana Parnell Rauch Duda Harvey Valdespin Nieuwenhuis Gee RRamirez Acosta Torres Thole Young Cedeno Francisco Byrdak Edgin Baxter Hefner Turner Pelfrey Shoppach Bay

Vic Sage Nov 01 2012 11:12 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2012 11:29 AM

Vic is lowest on Tejada, highest on Pelfrey I'm sure i'm understating the value of the one and overstating the value of the other. But i think it does accurately represent my preference for shorter but more productive contributions over longer but unproductive ones. Pelfrey's few starts were good. Tejada was a glove-only SS with an empty BA, who missed a month to boot. No love from me for that. It's better to burn out, than to fade away -- my my hey hey of course, there is a tipping point. If a guy plays badly but plays alot, isn't he contributing something more to the team than someone who plays almost not at all, regardless of success? Somewhere along the spectrum, even Bay's contributions are superior to a player with relatively few ABs or IPs. If we say it does not, that his contribution is entirely negative and the more he plays the more he hurts the team (which is true, too), then by that logic, I actually should be rated higher than Bay, since i just sat on my couch and didn't hurt the team at all. That being said, I ranked Bay last. So its a delicate procedure, this weighing of plusses and minuses, of comparing disparate contributions. More art than science, i think.

Swan Swan H Nov 01 2012 11:23 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Vic Sage wrote: if he missed the same number of balls but seemed to care more about it, you'd rank him higher? Not indifferent in attitude but in effort, jogging after balls over his head, that sort of thing.

Vic Sage Nov 01 2012 11:28 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

ok, got it. but maybe he was running as hard as he could? It always looked to me like Kevin McReynolds only ever jogged after balls, but everybody tells me he was a heck of an OFer (despite my eyeballs), so maybe its not an easy thing to assess.

Ceetar Nov 01 2012 11:44 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

30 Dickey 29 Wright 28 Niese 27 Hairston 26 Davis 25 Parnell 24 Murphy 23 Rauch 22 Santana 21 Tejada 20 Cedeno 19 Turner 18 Gee 17 Nieuwenhuis 16 Duda 15 HEFNER 14 HARVEY 13 Young 12 Baxter 11 Torres 10 Valdespin 9 Rramirez 8 Byrdak 7 Thole 6 Edgin 5 Francisco 4 Batista 3 Quintanilla 2 Pelfrey 1 Hampson

G-Fafif Nov 01 2012 10:26 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

30 Dickey 29 Wright 28 Niese 27 Murphy 26 Santana 25 Hairston 24 Davis 23 Tejada 22 Gee 21 Parnell 20 Young 19 Harvey 18 Thole 17 Valdespin 16 Duda 15 Baxter 14 Byrdak 13 Rauch 12 Francisco 11 Nieuwenhuis 10 Cedeño 9 Hefner 8 Acosta 7 Torres 6 Turner 5 Edgin 4 Shoppach 3 Quintanilla 2 Nickeas 1 McHugh This became a very grim exercise after Niese. Murphy gets credit for excellent attendance and stabilizing second base while hitting doubles. Santana was wonderful when the team was surprisingly good, and to me it overshadows the ankle- or innings-driven decline (plus there's nobody clearly better than Johan to keep him from being ranked high). Hairston had big moments in a part-time role; Davis got his act together when the team was falling apart and could be just terrible when not cranking up the power; Hairston doing more with less playing time is why I went Scott over Ike. Tejada filled a gap that could've been gaping, power-free nature of his hitting notwithstanding. Gee was fairly valuable in his presence, enormously so in his absence. Parnell seemed to get his act together late and makes the Top 10 by process of eliminating everybody else. The rest of the way was a matter of balancing out relatively competent if decidedly unspectacular types (Young, Thole, Byrdak, Rauch sometimes) who almost never excelled with those who didn't set the season on fire from April to October but made Met life a little less depressing in 2012 (Harvey, Valdespin, Baxter, Nieuwenhuis, with a nod to Francisco's better first-half angels). Duda is smack in the middle, which sounds right to me as he was the little girl with the curl...or fielded like one anyway (no offense to little girls with curls and gloves better than Duda's). It was with no personal malice that I omitted Mike Nickeas, Ramon Ramirez and Jason Bay, but boy did they suck.

Vic Sage Nov 02 2012 10:13 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 05 2012 08:09 AM

Vic is lowest on Tejada, highest on Pelfrey I've made a bunch of adjustments ... relatively competent if decidedly unspectacular types (Young, Thole, Byrdak, Rauch sometimes)... In what parallel universe was Thole "relatively competent if decidedly unspectacular"? In a universe with literally NO other catchers? where, if Thole's not there behind the plate, the ball just rolls to the backstop and the ball-boy has to throw it back to the pitcher? Because in any other universe, he sucked BHMC.

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2012 10:31 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Vic Sage wrote: Vic is lowest on Tejada, highest on Pelfrey I've a bunch of adjustments Noted. Anyone who decides to make changes should either: a) put up a new post with your new list or b) let us know that you've edited your old post so the changes aren't missed in the tabulating

TransMonk Nov 02 2012 10:53 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

I have edited to flip Hefner with Rauch and Batista with Byrdak.

Frayed Knot Dec 02 2012 07:18 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Eight of us have submitted lists to date. Anyone else still interested in getting in on this (or updating your existing votes) do so sometime this week as I'll try to wrap it up by then. I tweaked the lower half of my order a bit from how it appears above. 12 - VALDESPIN 11 - FRANCISCO 10 - THOLE 9 - R. RAMIREZ 8 - EDGIN 7 - CEDENO 6 - HEFNER 5 - TURNER 4 - PELFREY 3 - ACOSTA 2 - QUINTANILLA 1 - BAY

Nymr83 Dec 02 2012 08:50 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

30 R.A. Dickey 29 David Wright 28 Jonathon Niese 27 Ike Davis 26 Scott Hairston 25 Daniel Murphy 24 Ruben Tejada 23 Bobby Parnell 22 Matt Harvey 21 Chris Young 20 Dillon Gee 19 Lucas Duda 18 Jon Rauch 17 Ronny Cedeno 16 Mike Baxter 15 Kirk Nieuwenhuis 14 Justin Turner 13 Johan Santana 12 Ramon Ramirez 11 Jeremy Hefner 10 Mike Pelfrey 9 Jordany Valdespin 8 Andres Torres 7 Omar Quintanilla 6 Josh Thole 5 Miguel Batista 4 Frank Francisco 3 Justin Hampson 2 Josh Edgin 1 Vinny Rottino

Frayed Knot Dec 09 2012 05:31 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

FINAL 2012 RANKINGS Dickey & Wright were all named either 1st or 2nd on every ballot but in the end, despite a tense back and forth battle (plus the distraction of his writing career) Dickey prevailed. Niese was solidly in 3rd from the beginning with a substantial cushion on either side. For 4th Ike just edged out Muffy. The battle for 7th, 8th & 9th was a tight one, as was the grouping for 10th through 14th so, as in Florida, every vote was important. After that, things proceeded in a mostly orderly fashion with the biggest gaps showing up between Rauch & Nieuwenhuis (14th & 15th place) and later between Francisco & Edgin for 25th & 26th Just missing out of the money were, in order, Shoppach, Batista, Hampson, Carson, Nickeas, McHugh & Johnson RANK PLAYER 30 R.A. DICKEY 29 DAVID WRIGHT 28 JONATHON NIESE 27 IKE DAVIS 26 DANIEL MURPHY 25 SCOTT HAIRSTON 24 RUBEN TEJADA 23 JOHAN SANTANA 22 BOBBY PARNELL 21 LUCAS DUDA 20 MATT HARVEY 19 DILLON GEE 18 CHRIS YOUNG 17 JON RAUCH 16 KIRK NIEUWENHUIS 15 MIKE BAXTER 14 ANDRES TORRES 13 JORDANY VALDESPIN 12 RONNY CEDENO 11 JOSH THOLE 10 TIM BYRDAK 9 JUSTIN TURNER 8 RAMON RAMIREZ 7 JEREMY HEFNER 6 FRANK FRANCISCO 5 JOSH EDGIN 4 MANNY ACOSTA 3 MIKE PELFREY 2 OMAR QUINTANILLA 1 JASON BAY

Edgy MD Dec 10 2012 09:21 AM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

Good job. Sorry I failed to participate. My moving cut into my time when this started, but I should've gotten around to it. Has a save leader ever done so poorly in our rankings?

Frayed Knot Dec 10 2012 09:00 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

I can't imagine that a full-year closer ever finished so low. What's even worse for him is that such a low vote total in a sub-.500 season doesn't even get him enough juice to crack our overall top-500 these days. He'll have to pitch much better next season just to get his name in lights for future CPFers to see.

Frayed Knot Jan 12 2013 06:18 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 23 2013 10:47 AM

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Frayed Knot Jan 12 2013 09:39 PM Re: Two and a Half Dozen Men - aka, the 2012 Rankings

RANK PLAYER 30 R.A. DICKEY 29 DAVID WRIGHT 28 JONATHON NIESE 27 IKE DAVIS 26 DANIEL MURPHY 25 SCOTT HAIRSTON 24 RUBEN TEJADA 23 JOHAN SANTANA 22 BOBBY PARNELL 21 LUCAS DUDA 20 MATT HARVEY 19 DILLON GEE 18 CHRIS YOUNG 17 JON RAUCH 16 KIRK NIEUWENHUIS 15 MIKE BAXTER 14 ANDRES TORRES 13 JORDANY VALDESPIN 12 RONNY CEDENO 11 JOSH THOLE 10 TIM BYRDAK 9 JUSTIN TURNER 8 RAMON RAMIREZ 7 JEREMY HEFNER 6 FRANK FRANCISCO 5 JOSH EDGIN 4 MANNY ACOSTA 3 MIKE PELFREY 2 OMAR QUINTANILLA 1 JASON BAY