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Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

G-Fafif
Dec 13 2012 02:15 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 13 2012 02:36 PM

ESPN's Hall of 100 -- ranking players based strictly on performance, no character clauses -- rates Tom Seaver the No. 24 player of all-time, the No. 6 pitcher of all-time, the No. 5 RHP of all-time. Only righties better, they claim: some bat-throwing dick; some creep who pitched mostly for Atlanta and the Cubs; somebody who was said to be a large locomotive; and a fellow for whom a pitching award is named only because he predated Seaver and thus Seaver himself couldn't be the standard. Seeing as how it is established that Tom Seaver is the Greatest Everything Ever, this is shockingly low. But others would call it pretty darn high.

Other Mets (or those who wore Mets uniform in competition):

93. T#m Gl@v!ne
86. Gary Carter
81. Duke Snider
78. Mike Piazza
73. Roberto Alomar
65. Eddie Murray
56. Yogi Berra
45. Warren Spahn
41. Pedro Martinez
35. Nolan Ryan
14. Rickey Henderson
2. Willie Mays

Edgy MD
Dec 13 2012 02:22 PM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

Rickey Henderson?

Nolan Ryan?

Don Zimmer?

Ceetar
Dec 13 2012 02:25 PM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

I stopped reading after ESPN. Might as well tell me what your neighbor's kid ranked them as, I'd put more stock in it.

bmfc1
Dec 13 2012 02:30 PM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

And yet, there's no statue of him at Citi Field.

G-Fafif
Dec 13 2012 02:37 PM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

Edgy MD wrote:
Rickey Henderson?

Nolan Ryan?

Don Zimmer?


"Duh," he said. Fixed to include those guys, except for Zimmer, who would've been No. 2 behind Torre had the character clause been considered, according to Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.

Edgy MD
Dec 13 2012 02:42 PM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

It's funny how I came to that. I thought, "Maybe their criteria isn't favorable to what Rickey was, but... surely any reasonable criteria would say he was better than Gl@v!ne... and Carter... and Snider and Piazza and Alomar and Murray... ." I went all the way up to Pedro and was still incapable of making a reasonable argument why Pedro could be seen as better.

Nolie that high is still a small surprise.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 13 2012 06:57 PM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

When no-hitters are a counting number for you, it's tough to resist.

He's NOT above Pedro-- and maybe the best 3-4 year prime in history-- in my book.

smg58
Dec 14 2012 07:16 AM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

I still can't wait to see Robbie play like a Hall of Famer in a Met uniform.

Ashie62
Dec 14 2012 10:55 AM
Re: Tom Seaver Rated High, Vastly Underrated

I asked David Cone a few years ago who the two best righties of his generation were and his answer was.

1. Bob Gibson
2. Tom Seaver

He qualified it by saying Gibson for a day and Seaver for a season. I didnt ask about 1968 lol.