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Dead Men Walking

Neither guy fired in 2013, both are released at season's end

8 votes

Terry Extended, but Joe not/fired

1 votes

Joe Extended, but Terry not/fired

0 votes

Both guys extended

3 votes

Both guys fired but Joe first

0 votes

Both guys fired but Terry first

0 votes

Joe fired, Terry not

6 votes

Terry fired, Joe not

1 votes

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2013 08:51 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 17 2013 09:52 AM

FK's managerial scorecard indicates both Girardi and Collins have contracts expiring after this season. Will the lame ducks walk or be cooked?

metirish Jan 17 2013 08:52 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Went with Neither guy fired in 2013, both are released at season's end

Ceetar Jan 17 2013 08:57 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Collins extended, Girardi fired.

Ashie62 Jan 17 2013 09:09 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

I believe both are lame ducks.

Swan Swan H Jan 17 2013 09:09 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Neither fired, Girardi extended, Collins is not but is moved back into a minor league coordinator-type position.

Edgy MD Jan 17 2013 09:30 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Girardi fired during the season. Terry plays out his contract, is offered another un-specified job in the organization at the end of the year, says he'll think about it, goes off somewhere to meditate, but nothing comes of it. (Similar to the soft landings of Omar Minaya and Howard Johnson.)

smg58 Jan 17 2013 09:44 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Ashie62 wrote: I believe both are lame ducks. I have to agree with this. I think Collins needs the Mets to significantly exceed expectations, and Girardi needs the Yankees to meet expectations that aren't all that realistic. I don't see a mid-season firing unless things go much worse than expected, but it will be a mild upset if either is back.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2013 09:54 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

I augmented my inadequate poll to reflect Joe fired, Terry not which was my choice. I don't think Terry gets whacked but he also won;t be rehired.

Ashie62 Jan 17 2013 10:02 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

A soft landing for Terry is pretty much a given when/if he goes.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 17 2013 10:08 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I don't think Terry gets whacked but he also won;t be rehired. I agree with this. I expect he'll finish out 2013 but will be replaced during the offseason.

seawolf17 Jan 17 2013 10:10 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Ashie62 wrote: A soft landing for Terry is pretty much a given when/if he goes. Agree. It's not as if this team has any expectations to meet.

Edgy MD Jan 17 2013 10:17 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I augmented my inadequate poll to reflect Joe fired, Terry not which was my choice. I don't think Terry gets whacked but he also won;t be rehired. Yesh. That's what I was getting toward.

MFS62 Jan 17 2013 11:33 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

I voted earlier today, then turned off my PC and left the house. When I just got back, the system would have allowed me to vote again. Software problem? Later

Benjamin Grimm Jan 17 2013 12:06 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

No. When the poll choices get changed, the polling restarts.

MFS62 Jan 17 2013 12:11 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

Benjamin Grimm wrote: No. When the poll choices get changed, the polling restarts. Thanks, Later

TransMonk Jan 17 2013 02:58 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

Ashie62 wrote: I believe both are lame ducks. Yup.

Edgy MD Jan 17 2013 03:08 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

Isn't anybody who enters the season without a contract beyond, by definition, a lame duck?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2013 04:12 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

Edgy MD wrote: Isn't anybody who enters the season without a contract beyond, by definition, a lame duck? yes.

metsguyinmichigan Jan 17 2013 06:21 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

I don't see how Terry can be blamed for any shortcomings in 2013. It's not his fault that the ace pitcher was traded for prospects and the team can't even resign its fourth outfielder.

Edgy MD Jan 17 2013 06:51 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

The team can re-sign its fourth outfielder. (Though actually, if he was on the team right now, he'd be coming on board as the second-best or so.)

The Second Spitter Jan 17 2013 10:24 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

White Jerry is biscuits. I mean, I thought it was pretty obvious he was a transitional manager to begin with. Girardi will survive .... somehow, probably following the return of a fully PED'd Captain I and Slappy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 18 2013 06:53 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

I have a funny feeling both make it through AND get brought back. I can't explain it.

Edgy MD Jan 18 2013 07:10 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Hard to go broke betting on the status quo.

TransMonk Jan 18 2013 10:02 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

The Second Spitter wrote: I mean, I thought it was pretty obvious he was a transitional manager to begin with. Very much this.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2013 10:08 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Are you suggesting that the Mets hired Terry expecting him to only stick around long enough to get them through a few sucky seasons, or that that was the most likely outcome? I'm not particularly enamored of Terry and if he goes away it's fine with me. But unless he's no longer insane, I'd prefer that the next guy not be Wally Backman.

TransMonk Jan 18 2013 10:22 AM Re: Dead Men Walking

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Are you suggesting that the Mets hired Terry expecting him to only stick around long enough to get them through a few sucky seasons, or that that was the most likely outcome? Absolutely and I said so at the time. I don't think I was the only one. I think Terry has exceeded expectations, but that, yes, he was originally hired to be a place-holder during these "lean" payroll years.

Ceetar Jan 18 2013 12:26 PM Re: Dead Men Walking

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a non-transitional manager. Most guys seem halfway out the door when they're hired. But if I was looking to be in the running for next playoff bound Mets manager, I'd figure the best place to be would be the Mets dugout.